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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: shiv on July 10, 2011, 12:02:01 PM
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I can see this maybe when it's a matter of opinion, say some sort of deflection shot, but to do it when there's no shot at all seems pretty low.
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Nice flying shiv, he got outclassed and should have saluted you, instead of claiming ho. Keep up the good work. :salute
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Thanks Tom <<S>>
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I remind people CONSTANTLY that it takes 2 to perform the HO. Also, if a player turns into an attack and is the "second piece" of the HO, meaning that his turning into the attack made the HO situation possible, he dare not complain he was "HO'd". I see and hear that quite a bit too.
It is a valid tactic. It is just too bad it is the knee jerk tactic that it is.
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I'm not doubting the validity of this film but it would be nice if the text you included in the image above were also in the film....
... and you should have killed him 10 seconds earlier on the snap-shot.
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I remind people CONSTANTLY that it takes 2 to perform the HO. Also, if a player turns into an attack and is the "second piece" of the HO, meaning that his turning into the attack made the HO situation possible, he dare not complain he was "HO'd". I see and hear that quite a bit too.
It is a valid tactic. It is just too bad it is the knee jerk tactic that it is.
I suppose it depends on what you call a HO. To me a HO is FIRERING on a head to head merge. Watch the Krup vs Bruv films from the tourney. Many time they turned back into each other and a number of time one or the other had a shot, but they didn't take. They fought for a clean shot and then took it and it was the end of the fight in most cases.
Too many players do nothing but haul their nose about to go head to head and start firering from 1k out. That isn't a fight, its a waste of time.
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and a number of time one or the other had a shot, but they didn't take. They fought for a clean shot and then took it
AH is a game about aerial gun fighting. When my guns get a shot at the target I take it. The whole notion of not taking a shot when the gun bore is on the target corrupts the game and cheapens it (which is to say -has been the norm ever since AW migrated to AH). That is my opinion and I feed it to you vigorously.
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... and you should have killed him 10 seconds earlier on the snap-shot.
Yeah. I used to shut off Combat Trim for fights like that, have to learn that again.
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AH is a game about aerial gun fighting. When my guns get a shot at the target I take it. The whole notion of not taking a shot when the gun bore is on the target corrupts the game and cheapens it (which is to say -has been the norm ever since AW migrated to AH). That is my opinion and I feed it to you vigorously.
Good Grief (insert face palm here)
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Good Grief (insert face palm here)
Agreed on the face palm.
Some of us believe it's about air combat and learning to bend your cartoon plane better then the other guy. The second we start really dying, then shooting at every opportunity including HO shots makes sense as you many never get another shot. But until then, working towards getting the best shot is the challenge to me and what the game is about.
The argument that it takes two to HO is also garbage to me. If your only intention every time you merge with another plane is to shoot nose on, then you are missing a big part of cartoon air combat.
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Guess I didn't need to post it twice
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or three times for that matter :)
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If i plane turns and comes straight at me, I am going to shoot, then move out of the way. been burned too many times by people with tracers off, or who took a shot at the last minute. I call that teaching some people that hoing doesnt pay :D. everybody takes a head to head shot, just some people dont like to admit they ho :bolt:.
semp
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If i plane turns and comes straight at me, I am going to shoot, then move out of the way. been burned too many times by people with tracers off, or who took a shot at the last minute. I call that teaching some people that hoing doesnt pay :D. everybody takes a head to head shot, just some people dont like to admit they ho :bolt:.
semp
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Agreed on the face palm.
Some of us believe it's about air combat and learning to bend your cartoon plane better then the other guy. The second we start really dying, then shooting at every opportunity including HO shots makes sense as you many never get another shot. But until then, working towards getting the best shot is the challenge to me and what the game is about.
The argument that it takes two to HO is also garbage to me. If your only intention every time you merge with another plane is to shoot nose on, then you are missing a big part of cartoon air combat.
Actually glad the server lagged so it got posted 3 times. QFT...
:cheers:
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With a name like mine who can complain when I serve them up a facial?
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Agreed on the face palm.
Some of us believe it's about air combat and learning to bend your cartoon plane better then the other guy. The second we start really dying, then shooting at every opportunity including HO shots makes sense as you many never get another shot. But until then, working towards getting the best shot is the challenge to me and what the game is about.
The argument that it takes two to HO is also garbage to me. If your only intention every time you merge with another plane is to shoot nose on, then you are missing a big part of cartoon air combat.
:aok
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Agreed on the face palm.
Some of us believe it's about air combat and learning to bend your cartoon plane better then the other guy. The second we start really dying, then shooting at every opportunity including HO shots makes sense as you many never get another shot. But until then, working towards getting the best shot is the challenge to me and what the game is about.
The argument that it takes two to HO is also garbage to me. If your only intention every time you merge with another plane is to shoot nose on, then you are missing a big part of cartoon air combat.
I have never ho'd a plane that wasnt coming straight at me. it's impossible. I dare you to post proof that you can ho a plane that isnt coming straight at you.
semp
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AH is a game about aerial gun fighting. When my guns get a shot at the target I take it. The whole notion of not taking a shot when the gun bore is on the target corrupts the game and cheapens it (which is to say -has been the norm ever since AW migrated to AH). That is my opinion and I feed it to you vigorously.
I can actually see where you are coming from. Hear me out here friends.
I typically avoid HO's like the plague, not because I think it is some immoral cartoon sin, but because the math simply does not add up. Why would I give someone a good chance to kill me when I know I can outmaneuver him. With this however, I believe it to be very foolish to point your nose at your opponent and cold merge while expecting an unknown pilot in the MA to be holding guns. In the DA, I see lots of pilots, and do it sometimes myself also, clean merging in incredibly synthetic dogfighting scenarios where they simply fly by one another going 100 mph, wave, and say "Cheerio!" and continue to fight. This would never happen in the MA. You would never fly directly nose to nose with an enemy. If you do you might as well fire. I think that's the point Yeager was trying to make. You should avoid the HO merge at all costs but if you do happen to find yourself in one either a) fire or b) evade away from it.
Having said that, if a pilot is constantly finding himself in HO situations he really needs to reevaluate his strategic approach to dogfighting imo.
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I have never ho'd a plane that wasnt coming straight at me. it's impossible. I dare you to post proof that you can ho a plane that isnt coming straight at you.
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You missed the point. It's about intent. Say two pilots are flying directly at one another. Pilot Noob starts HOing from 1.5k out. Pilot Vet starts evading the HO 800yds out. So from the distances 1.5k to 800yds the noob was HOing since both noses were pointed directly at one another. Pilot Vet then pulls his nose away from the HO and Pilot NOob yanks the stick and sprays and kills Pilot Vet by spraying the side of his aeroplane as he flies off to the side. The bullets that caused the kill were not fired in a HO situation, yet the spray from 1.5k out was. So the kill was not a HO kill? :headscratch:
Pilot Noob is clearly a "HO'er" and HO'd, as his intent was to fire no matter what. Had Pilot Vet just fired and flew directly at Pilot Noob, both pilots would have died.
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Speaking from experience Grizz is correct. A HO shot is a great equalizer, and why would a pilot of Grizz's caliber want to even the field?
There is nothing so sweet in AH as the sound of your opponent blazing away at thin air as you merge.
The first thought that comes to mind when I hear the above is "easy meat".
If I don't hear anything the first thought that comes to mind is "fights on".
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I gave Shiv a facial like he was a vivid girl after a lengthy fight cause I got scaredy cat britches that some other planes were coming in.
He had actually called them off.
Up until that point it was a pretty fun fight and he was about to get the advantage.
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He was a gent about it although I'm sure it was frustrating to have a fight like that peter out that way.
<S> Shiv.
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Nice way of putting that, jeez :)
That was a while back but pretty sure I was losing that one the whole time anyway. Fun fight tho <S> Assi.
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Pilot Noob starts HOing from 1.5k out. Pilot Vet starts evading the HO 800yds out. So from the distances 1.5k to 800yds the noob was HOing since both noses were pointed directly at one another. Pilot Vet then pulls his nose away from the HO and Pilot NOob yanks the stick and sprays and kills Pilot Vet by spraying the side of his aeroplane as he flies off to the side.
No experienced AH gamer (aka vet) worth the salt on his balls would begin evading a HO shot from 800 yards out. The art of evading the HO starts as soon as you log into the game. Sorry to see so many people still utterly confused about the game.
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I have never ho'd a plane that wasnt coming straight at me. it's impossible. I dare you to post proof that you can ho a plane that isnt coming straight at you.
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Let's be clear about something first. I expect in the MA that most everyone is going to face shoot. In the end also understand that I won't say anything about being HO'd unless it's an old timer who knows better. Thankfully that doesn't happen too often.
Just because someone is nose on to you doesn't mean they are going to shoot. I come across folks often that don't HO, and like me try and cut the merge as close as possible. It's definitely my fault if I guess wrong and get blasted.
Bottom line though is it is a choice to take the face shot. Because of that it only takes one to HO.
So you go ahead and take that shot, if that's fun for you :aok I'm going to take my chances and not take that shot in hopes the other guy wants to dance instead :)
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What I saw in the film was the P-51 and F4U in a mediocre rolling scissors, and the P-51 popped out in front, twice. I don't think the P-51 was even hit, but snap-rolled into the drink by hamfisted use of his controls.
No HO, not even close... The fact is that the P-51 pilot flew poorly, wasting his energy and getting into a maneuver fight as a result. He could have used his E to pin down the F4U and kill it.
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You missed the point. It's about intent. Say two pilots are flying directly at one another. Pilot Noob starts HOing from 1.5k out. Pilot Vet starts evading the HO 800yds out. So from the distances 1.5k to 800yds the noob was HOing since both noses were pointed directly at one another. Pilot Vet then pulls his nose away from the HO and Pilot NOob yanks the stick and sprays and kills Pilot Vet by spraying the side of his aeroplane as he flies off to the side. The bullets that caused the kill were not fired in a HO situation, yet the spray from 1.5k out was. So the kill was not a HO kill? :headscratch:
Pilot Noob is clearly a "HO'er" and HO'd, as his intent was to fire no matter what. Had Pilot Vet just fired and flew directly at Pilot Noob, both pilots would have died.
what I was saying is you come directly facing another con, chances are you gonna get sprayed. we all know that. sometimes you cant evade coming head on to another guy, but most of the time you do, if you pay attention to your surroundings. there's a reason why i dont remember ever hoing you grizz. and it's most likely has to do because you never pointed your nose at mine.
Me I dont get ho'd unless i want to get ho'd. :salute.
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awwww the ho-topic...
One thing what makes me mad: "it takes two to ho"
It is completely wrong. Others explained, why. It only takes one *really intelligent guy* to try to ramm his opponent at all cost even tho hes trying to evade hard.
One more thing: what are you playing for? For a little bit of "quality interaction"? If so, never ho. If you know no other acm in your pony or dweebfire, worse, never wanna lear any acm, go play console games.
Just saying.
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One more thing: what are you playing for? For a little bit of "quality interaction"? If so, never ho. If you know no other acm in your pony or dweebfire, worse, never wanna lear any acm, go play console games.
Reading this post makes me think that if I ever did give up on learning to fly properly, I could still get quite a lot of quality enjoyment from HOing all the time, just to annoy overly-sensitive whiners who cry on 200 every time they die
The novelty would probably wear off eventually I guess
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uhoh : )
you da man lil coombzy
Definiately the spit pilot whos hoing everyone.
If i would be you, i would be vewwy quiet.
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I always reserved the right to HO, particularly where its use meant that hilarity ensued.
Oh, and 262s got a face full of lead every time. I don't care how unfair it was.
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I always reserved the right to HO, particularly where its use meant that hilarity ensued.
Oh, and 262s got a face full of lead every time. I don't care how unfair it was.
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uhoh : )
you da man lil coombzy
Definiately the spit pilot whos hoing everyone.
If i would be you, i would be vewwy quiet.
uh huh, whatever you say. how about until you have some film of me HOing or behaving badly you keep the BS to yourself eh?
don't be angsty at me, there are loads of other guys out there who whine on 200 every time they get shot down :D no need to take everything so personally
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Sorry i sukk. Looks like the truth hurts both of us : )
Edit: true, i use to beyotch on 200. Its a bad habit, i need to change it. Dont try to hide behind your words... BUT... if you seen me hoing once... ONCE... then you can talk. Until then, go ask your squaddies, how to kill an eny30 ride without hoing him, they know the answer for sure : )
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Have you ever been HO'd by me Debrody? :headscratch:
If that ever happens then you can talk about my spit dweebery all you want, but making stuff up because I hurt your feelings is childish
Glad to hear you want to change your 200 habits :aok if you ever reactivate your acc...
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whining without even playing the game is quality :aok
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I haz a man crush
Fixed. :t
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Have you ever been HO'd by me Debrody? :headscratch:
I have. It's been a while, but ya did it once. Don't deny you've done it
No biggie. I've HOed too, and don't claim not to under certain circumstances. I'll avoid it at all costs unless 1) I see tracers coming first and I have better guns, or 2) I'm getting ganged, at which point I'll face shoot every gangtard at every single opportunity.
I got some 200 grief a few weeks ago from a guy whining about him getting a face full of 20mm. My response to him was "well, there were 4 of you who decided to join a 1v1 and turn it into a 5v1. You deserved it."
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Just has to be posted in every ho whine thread.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,97161.0.html
:t
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To answer the question: yes, every time we met. Yup, i died to most of them... never said im good.
You guys rock the world left n right, make me wanna fly... or not. At least a perfect example what ill try to avoid. See you in 40 days.
"i see hypocrits... many hypocrits"
Keep rockin dudes
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I can see this maybe when it's a matter of opinion, say some sort of deflection shot, but to do it when there's no shot at all seems pretty low.
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lol, AK complaining about HOing? Whats next, complaining about ganging? :rofl
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I have. It's been a while, but ya did it once. Don't deny you've done it
Apart from 2 or 3 nights ago when you killed me in your Tempest ( :furious ), I think the only times I've ever seen you in game were when I was a 2 week noob and you farmed me relentlessly :] And yeah, at that stage I held the trigger down whenever something red was within 1000 :uhoh
I might've HO'd @ you but I bet I never got a kill :>
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Apart from 2 or 3 nights ago when you killed me in your Tempest ( :furious ), I think the only times I've ever seen you in game were when I was a 2 week noob and you farmed me relentlessly :] And yeah, at that stage I held the trigger down whenever something red was within 1000 :uhoh
I might've HO'd @ you but I bet I never got a kill :>
Well, if it makes ya feel better, yes, you probably were new at that point (I didn't recognize your name, but then again I'm usually pizz drunk when I play so I'm not good at remembering a lot, or sometimes even being awake :lol) and yeh, if I remember correctly you got me with the HO!
And the other night with the Tempest, I make no apologies! There were so many red planes there I just HAD TO! :D
Besides, I love my Tempy... and feel so bad for losing her I logged off and haven't been back on in 2 days! :cry Sucks too, I had a 13 kill run going only to look back and find an LA7 200 off when I was low and slow just finishing off a kill. :cry :cry
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And the other night with the Tempest, I make no apologies! There were so many red planes there I just HAD TO! :D
:salute no apologies needed, I would've done the same given the opportunity! That's the totally tubular way she goes in AH ;]
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The dead... They are always ho'd.
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Let's be clear about something first. I expect in the MA that most everyone is going to face shoot. In the end also understand that I won't say anything about being HO'd unless it's an old timer who knows better. Thankfully that doesn't happen too often.
Just because someone is nose on to you doesn't mean they are going to shoot. I come across folks often that don't HO, and like me try and cut the merge as close as possible. It's definitely my fault if I guess wrong and get blasted.
Bottom line though is it is a choice to take the face shot. Because of that it only takes one to HO.
So you go ahead and take that shot, if that's fun for you :aok I'm going to take my chances and not take that shot in hopes the other guy wants to dance instead :)
I agree. I duel in the DA a lot where it's more of a gentlemen's fight. In the MA I do die sometimes when merging and trying to avoid the HO. I simply have no interest in ending the fight with a HO shot. It sure doesn't make me the better stick. Also, when it's a tight fight and your opponent is HOing, you need to be all that much better of a stick as you try to make up the additional angles lost avoiding the HOs. This makes the kill all the more sweet.
There are still some great sticks out there that are looking for a good angles fight/duel and won't HO. A <S> will always follow. These are the fights that keep me coming back. :aok
In the end it's your $15.
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Lots of Ho'ing going on out there. Seems every 190 and most of the 51's are taking those shots.
Just a couple days ago AKDG came after me in his 190..I was so sick of them I decided to set up a Ho (which i suck at) and crashed right into him ;( Sorry DG
Point being though...I'll be practicing the ho for any 190 and most 51's that come at me until I get my MoJo back.
(Been gone for two years..still getting used to pulling off maneuvers and shooting at targets)
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The following link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvIoM4oLp0
Is this a HO or not? I mean clearly the guy that dies is in full HO mode, even firing off a couple rounds outside of range but the ultimate victor looks to be ruddering over just a bit, little roll to the left, slight climb then ................. kill.
I'm saying it isn't but you know the guy who died immediately complained to his CO that it was a HO and it wasn't his fault he lost.
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Shiv, detune 200 it makes for a happier world! :aok
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Im a little confused on who was who, The pony lost that fight when slowed down to turn with the CHOG, And I HO all Tempest, don't like'em
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Speaking from experience Grizz is correct. A HO shot is a great equalizer, and why would a pilot of Grizz's caliber want to even the field?
Great question and one I've been on/off pointedly asking him for many months now, when the opportunity arises! :ahand
Why do you like to HO Grizz? :devil
Still waiting for a good moment to get him back for HOing me that one time I decided to leave him be and have his fun with two other friendlies chomping at his tail on the deck.
I'm a believer of taking any oportunity that presents itself in the MA, besides you learn and eventualy get better at predicting and dodging your enemy's HOs, especialy when you concentrate on surviving them and not playing a game of chicken with the trigger taped down.
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Why do you like to HO Grizz? :devil
I only HO regularly when I'm flying under my shade. That character has got to go through the HOing stage otherwise nobody will believe he is actually a new developing player.
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well shiv i think a few people understood why u posted this, but the other 30 think it's about whining cause of a ho lol. You have lost control of this tread abort now :bolt:
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Funny, I thought about this thread this afternoon.
You expect people to cry on 200 when they die, especially when they're of the particularly inflated ego variety. There's always something else to blame other than them. I'm not sure if it makes it funny or sad when the person whining and crying on 200, and then throwing insults, cursing, and calling names on 200 when you laugh at his cries instead of arguing with him, is someone who has been around this game for quite some time, and someone whom I had quite a bit of cartoon pilot respect for up until then.
If the roles are reversed and I turn to avoid a potential HO and the other guy takes the opportunity to make a shot from directly above, while rolling inverted, now at least 30 degrees off my nose, as I pass under him from between 400 to 600 out, and nails me in the top of the cockpit with hispanos... I think "hey, crap happens."
Apparently the cooler thing to do is cry, then lie about what happened, then curse and insult. :lol
Here's to you, Bud, you know who you are. Way to make yourself look good! :aok
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Funny, I thought about this thread this afternoon.
Why? :headscratch:
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I could care less if someone HO's me.
It is my responsibility to avoid the HO if I decide I want to turn fight.
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Sorry i sukk. Looks like the truth hurts both of us : )
Edit: true, i use to beyotch on 200. Its a bad habit, i need to change it. Dont try to hide behind your words... BUT... if you seen me hoing once... ONCE... then you can talk. Until then, go ask your squaddies, how to kill an eny30 ride without hoing him, they know the answer for sure : )
With all due respect. And I mean that. I see you tend to complain about your "ride". That being a G6, its your fault that you fly it why do you persist on telling everyone how bad it is. I feel like you make a lot of excuses for dying when you fly that. IE "you beat me simply because your planes better"
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Why? :headscratch:
Cause I was flying a toon plane, and killed another toon plane as I described in my first post, and he cried HO on 200 (when it was so far away from being a HO it was rediculous).
You don't spend all day rethinking and rehashing AH BBS threads and thinking of awesome stories to post when you get home? :headscratch:
:lol
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With all due respect. And I mean that. I see you tend to complain about your "ride". That being a G6, its your fault that you fly it why do you persist on telling everyone how bad it is. I feel like you make a lot of excuses for dying when you fly that. IE "you beat me simply because your planes better"
Nope, bud. You got me several times in a spit, yet never seen a complaint. Why? : )
Couse you wasnt hoing me down, wasnt picking me, wasnt afraid of a fight.
And this is the difference.
<S>
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:salute
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Last night in MW so many were hoing that I just gave up and started returning once I saw them fire.
Once I moved to LW the fights were much better and way fewer hos.
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What I really want to know is how many of you get "ho guilt?" I know I sure do. There I am flying around and doing my best trying not to ho and then I start getting into all of these engagements where the ugly red cons just fly right in while I am taking off and start hoing and vulching me. After a while I finally get my plane up to reasonable altitude and an enemy con comes in. I think to myself "self, you really know that you are not supposed to ho, don't you?" and I answer myself, "yes, but I am sick and tired of these d@#%ed bish(or rooks, I fly Knights, see?) coming in and hoing and vulching me." "Right," I think to myself, "surely this must be an honorable flyer coming in to engage and surely he will not ho, right?" So I fly toward the engagement, but he has alt and speed and comes swooping in on my twelve. I figure that he must be merging, but I am prepared for the ho. Right on cue the other pilot ho's, but this time I have anticipated and begun to turn away. But, I see his tracers going by and my blood boils. Next pilot I run into gets ho'd and dies... and then the remorse begins...
"Oh no, what if he whines on 200, I will look like a hotard. Maybe he was an honorable pilot and I have stained my own honor. Maybe he was a noob and now I have confirmed that hoing is acceptable. Maybe he is a vet and I have confirmed that I am a noob. What do I do? What have I done???"
Ho guilt begins to creep and fester and soon enough I meet my next engagement. Sure enough I am rattled now and my nerves cause my sweaty fingers to fail at a critical moment as my new opponent shoots me in the face.
Breathing heavily in the tower I decide to save face and not to save "that film."
Now, after a blessed few moments of peace, I renew my vows to learn proper ACM and work on my skillz. Once more I punch into my brand new shiny plane ready to be that shining Knight (pun intended) who never picks, ho's or, as I learned from a rugged vet on 200 the other night, does not come charging in from 6k in a 109G6 in order to engage an enemy con (from the rear by the way). My sins are many, my guilt is great. Have mercy upon me great hero's of AHII.
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What I really want to know is how many of you get "ho guilt?" I know I sure do. There I am flying around and doing my best trying not to ho and then I start getting into all of these engagements where the ugly red cons just fly right in while I am taking off and start hoing and vulching me. After a while I finally get my plane up to reasonable altitude and an enemy con comes in. I think to myself "self, you really know that you are not supposed to ho, don't you?" and I answer myself, "yes, but I am sick and tired of these d@#%ed bish(or rooks, I fly Knights, see?) coming in and hoing and vulching me." "Right," I think to myself, "surely this must be an honorable flyer coming in to engage and surely he will not ho, right?" So I fly toward the engagement, but he has alt and speed and comes swooping in on my twelve. I figure that he must be merging, but I am prepared for the ho. Right on cue the other pilot ho's, but this time I have anticipated and begun to turn away. But, I see his tracers going by and my blood boils. Next pilot I run into gets ho'd and dies... and then the remorse begins...
"Oh no, what if he whines on 200, I will look like a hotard. Maybe he was an honorable pilot and I have stained my own honor. Maybe he was a noob and now I have confirmed that hoing is acceptable. Maybe he is a vet and I have confirmed that I am a noob. What do I do? What have I done???"
Ho guilt begins to creep and fester and soon enough I meet my next engagement. Sure enough I am rattled now and my nerves cause my sweaty fingers to fail at a critical moment as my new opponent shoots me in the face.
Breathing heavily in the tower I decide to save face and not to save "that film."
Now, after a blessed few moments of peace, I renew my vows to learn proper ACM and work on my skillz. Once more I punch into my brand new shiny plane ready to be that shining Knight (pun intended) who never picks, ho's or, as I learned from a rugged vet on 200 the other night, does not come charging in from 6k in a 109G6 in order to engage an enemy con (from the rear by the way). My sins are many, my guilt is great. Have mercy upon me great hero's of AHII.
I just PM FBLazy and apologize myself.
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lol @ "HO guilt" :lol i know what you mean....
if they just desperately turn into me and start firing at 600 then I absolve myself though :]
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lol @ "HO guilt" :lol i know what you mean....
if they just desperately turn into me and start firing at 600 then I absolve myself though :]
What I hate is the guy your fighting trying to ho you every time around...... so the fifth time or so as you come around you go... enough of this and shoot him. Problem is... that time he didn't shoot. :lol
Just last night I got into a fight. I upped off cv in a F6 and the other guy, who will remain nameless, came in about 4k above in a spit. He dove in and slowly lost his E. It turned into a T&B fight and he was getting on a shorter and shorted leash. Finally he gave up and went to trying for the ho. It took about 6 passes but he finally connected. One wingtip missing I went for a little swim wit da fishies. :)
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I just PM FBLazy and apologize myself.
:confused: What did I do this time. :bhead
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People do a lot of stupid crap that makes no sense what so ever. Like rolling undefended bases at 3am or driving tanks ( :D ). I don't get it. HO's have their place, but what I don't understand is when I'm 3K below a spit 8 in a 190 A5 and the ding dong rolls right into me head on, guns blazing. How stupid do you have to be to HO joust with a full armed 190, especially in the magnificently self disassembling Spitfire? In a 190 it's not hard to find yourself on the short end but people will still, even while holding all the cards, do a completely senseless HO. HOing with a Hurc is another thing I never understood. It will out turn 90% of the planeset but still people just bore right in with some kind of a strange suicide pact mentality on anything and everything. Makes for a lot of :huh moments.
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:confused: What did I do this time. :bhead
Just pre-apologizing for the next time I ho ya Lazy :)
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I always seem to have a problem with my squaddies HOing me, does that mean something :noid
:salute
BigRat
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I always seem to have a problem with my squaddies HOing me, does that mean something :noid
:salute
BigRat
It might, but I don't know you well enough to say for sure - LOL
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It's not a HO, more like a "shot of opportunity"
It's a game, it's kill or be killed, take the shot and move on.
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I always seem to have a problem with my squaddies HOing me, does that mean something :noid
:salute
BigRat
Maybe next week at squad practice you can explain to me what I heard someone say. It was krill shooter, or kill scooter. Something like that. :headscratch:
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Maybe next week at squad practice you can explain to me what I heard someone say. It was krill shooter, or kill scooter. Something like that. :headscratch:
Do a search for Woooo Wooooo. Very educational on that subject.
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Do a search for Woooo Wooooo. Very educational on that subject.
You live?
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You live?
That's debatable
JUGgler
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I remind people CONSTANTLY that it takes 2 to perform the HO. Also, if a player turns into an attack and is the "second piece" of the HO, meaning that his turning into the attack made the HO situation possible, he dare not complain he was "HO'd". I see and hear that quite a bit too.
It is a valid tactic. It is just too bad it is the knee jerk tactic that it is.
Well, that's it, isn't it. I can't tell you how often this thing turns into a paranoid race to the bottom for me. I'll be trying to get separation and watching, watching, watching... then the minute I think that other $%#^#^ is going to fire, I'll point my nose at him and let him have it. While I disdain the ho, that disdain is nothing compared to how urinated-off I get when somebody ho's me without return fire.
Otherwise, lots of losers get hissy on ch200. To my mind, anyone who does' such a thing is a whiny little female dog and deserves to be treated as Archibald Cunningham treated Rob Roy's wife - repeatedly, until that stuff is well-exorcised.
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You live?
Define live please.
Juggler :furious
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Define live please.
Juggler :furious
Live is defined as......nevermind. :D
LOL JUGgler
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Why are you guys mocking one of the greatest traditions of Aces High?
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Why are you guys mocking one of the greatest traditions of Aces High?
:old: And he is old enough to have seen what is considered tradition, change a few times :old:
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You get a lot better results if you employ a 'Complaint Triad'
Cry HO on 200
Cry Ho on Green
Cry HO on the forum.
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"Lt" cries Ho? Today around the A196 & v187 Rook/Bish area where there has been a 3+ day dead-lock of GV's up & kill within 3-4 seconds, bomb****s killing expensive GV's, Vulchin' Ords & Radar and running. So, I got tired of the lone Mustang doing hit & runs so I chase him in my Typhi over half a sector weaving through the canyons. Finally he sees me on his 6 <1k & starts climbing, rolls and drops on me, over shoots with too much E, I roll right, split-S, cut engines, slowly pull up gently on his high 12 and shoot one of his wings off. He immediately PM's me & cries Ho! Just because he couldn't finish the loop & get a solution on me first I'm the Ho? It wasn't a head on, first pass, so it ain't no Ho, right? Film @ 11. :ahand
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Has the guy that HOed the guy that started this thread said anything yet?
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Why are you guys mocking one of the greatest traditions of Aces High?
Rehashing non-original topics with a slight twist IS THE ultimate tradition of Aces High. :devil
I miss the "when will we get the B-29" posts. :cry
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Look at that... Raider provides a little corporate memory. My kudos to you.
Now, does anyone want to go through the laborious exercise of digging up all those whiny little posts about how much we need the 29? Such an act would be the figurative equivalent of getting all of Fido's "bad doggie" dookies into a nice big steaming heap, grabbing Fido by the back of the head, and inserting his nose deeply into one of the glistening colon-blows.
Yeah, great, we've got a 29... Anybody see one lately or, even if you have, anybody dogfight with one at less than 10k?
No, didn't think so... If you saw it, you watched it fly over at about 30k, drop your hangar, and fly on with impunity. Great, JF Great... Think of what we could've had instead, like a nice Beau or 410. The only good thing about the 29 is the off chance you might catch one low and deprive some autopilot bomb**** of his perkies.
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Never in the history of human kind has anyone been so upset as a HOer being told he HOed :old:
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Never in the history of human kind has anyone been so upset as a HOer being told he HOed :old:
How many ho's could a ho'er ho if a ho'er could ho hoes?
I'd go on, using perhaps do', blow, and mofo, but I suspect Skuzzy would wood-shampoo me for it, since I think it already happened once.
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Has the guy that HOed the guy that started this thread said anything yet?
No-one HO-ed anyone. That was supposed to be the point of the thread, playing the HO card. :bhead
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No-one HO-ed anyone. That was the point of the thread, playing the HO card.
Which is to say, no one got ho'ed but somebody definitely got (starts with a p, past tense verb form of the noun that describes a man who manages a business for which young women are capital assets).
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No-one HO-ed anyone. That was supposed to be the point of the thread, playing the HO card. :bhead
Ahh, good. I am starting a collection:
Never in the history of human kind has anyone been so upset as a HOer being told he HOed old
Aces High, where HOs do not exist :old:
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Ahh, good. I am starting a collection:
Never in the history of human kind has anyone been so upset as a HOer being told he HOed old
Aces High, where HOs do not exist :old:
That was Air Warrior I think. And I don't mind being told that I HOed if I did, it's just in this case i barely even shot at the guy.
Good luck with your collection though.
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That was Air Warrior I think. And I don't mind being told that I HOed if I did, it's just in this case i barely even shot at the guy.
Good luck with your collection though.
Oups, sorry, it was not meant to say that you did HO. I just used your quote to enter it in my collection.
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Sooo let's refresh.
If you don't want to get HO'ed then don't run 12 o'clock to 12 o'clock with your prey in the MA. Move.
Float like a butterfly...
Get a clue or shut it!
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Sooo let's refresh.
I only know how to HO
fixed
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High Ho
High Ho
It's off to death we go
Our wings fall off
Our engine stops
We crash to the ground
In a smoking spot
High Ho
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High Ho
High Ho
It's off to death we go
Our wings fall off
Our engine stops
We crash to the ground
In a smoking spot
High Ho
Music Maestro!