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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: F22RaptorDude on August 17, 2011, 09:59:45 PM
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I was taking my friend home and we were leaving the neighborhood at our exit when a sports bike came through and another one followed from about 200 feet roughly and turned to wide and went into the grass and hit a pile of rocks and dirt and fell on the left side and slid about 20 feet. Me and my friend ran over to see if he was okay and we saw him get off and start using some pretty foul language. About that time his buddy turned around and came to check out what happened and flipped his bike up and turned the engine off. Half of the side panel was ripped from the bolts and the left blinker was torn from the socket and was broken. There were bits and pieces everywhere. We helped out collecting the big parts that came off which was mainly body panel pieces. The guy was okay but terribly shaken, they called their buds and they picked up the rider and swapped out so someone else could take the bike home. Before they left the guy who passed us first joked saying "And this is why you wear a helmet" and he rode off with his buds. I thought it was pretty cool being the first crash I've ever seen in person where the person walked away unscaved. I didn't have my phone on me but tomorrow i'll take pictures of where he ran off the road and if any bits are still in the grass.
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I have my motorcycle license and almost bought a 500cc Ninja, then realized I lived in a metropolitan area filled with amateur drivers; not Sebring International Raceway.
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Seeing a motorcycle crash is cool? Wow, kids these days.
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Crashes in movies = cool. Real life, they scare the jeebus outta me (only takes one...). It is good that ya stopped though, too often people drive right past. Glad he walked away though, bikes + speed + wrong move = nasty sight
Also, depending on the city, they'll likely have it cleaned up by the next day anyways. I know what little broke off in my wreck was cleaned within the hour, they don't like leaving a mess normally.
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crashes are only cool if its in a movie. in real life, well, its just plain old scary. if you thought it was cool, you seriously need some help. that guy could have been hurt or killed and you still probably would have thought "ooh a crash! coooool!"
the only cool real life crashes are the demolition derby crashes. maybe you should try that instead.
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I only said it was cool because he walked away without a scratch.
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unscaved.
unscathed :aok couldn't help myself :lol
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unscathed :aok couldn't help myself :lol
:rofl No problem, I have trouble spelling sometimes
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Motorcycle crashes are seldom cool, this guy was lucky though.
But I've been up close to a fatal accident once, and that was not a pretty sight. I was driving my car, and the only thing stopping me from seeing what happened was because I had a couple of other cars infront of me. The traffic suddenly stopped, and the reason was a 16year old kid had driven his motorcycle smack into a towtruck that had stopped in the intersection ahead to turn left.. :uhoh
The Ambulance, police and firetrucks came within record time, less than 2minutes because they were located so close. But it was then established that this poor kid had died instantly.. The speed limit at the site was 50, but he might have been faster on his bike. And there was not even as much as a skidmark before he hit the towtruck, so he could not have seen it just standing there..
This is 2years ago, and still to this day the poor kids father comes regularly to the site and places candles and flowers there. Makes me think of how fast lives can change in a blink of an eye, and how little we know ahead of us. :(
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unscathed :aok couldn't help myself :lol
then ya missed the "me and my friend". should've been "my friend and i". :devil :aok
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I only said it was cool because he walked away without a scratch.
so, just because he walked away from it all fine and dandy makes it ok to think it was cool? whats wrong with that picture....
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I also think it was cool that the rider walked away unhurt. Would have been very uncool if he hadn't. I'm sure that's what the OP meant.
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then ya missed the "me and my friend". should've been "my friend and i". :devil :aok
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:rofl :aok
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I also think it was cool that the rider walked away unhurt. Would have been very uncool if he hadn't. I'm sure that's what the OP meant.
If there had been injuries I would said something terrible happened in front of me. Nobody got hurt just the bike. Man they were pissed cause they had to explain it to their buds.
then ya missed the "me and my friend". should've been "my friend and i". :devil :aok
I passed lit with a 71 last year, its not my profession :P
:rofl to the picture
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unscathed :aok couldn't help myself :lol
glad you did it and not me... :lol
so, just because he walked away from it all fine and dandy makes it ok to think it was cool? whats wrong with that picture....
nothing wrong with the picture, it's your head.
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If there had been injuries I would said something terrible happened in front of me. Nobody got hurt just the bike. Man they were pissed cause they had to explain it to their buds.
I passed lit with a 71 last year, its not my profession :P
:rofl to the picture
I hope you aren't in high school yet.
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I hope you aren't in high school yet.
id bet it he is...
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Being an experienced rider I can tell you - motorcycle crashes aren't cool. Not by any sense of the imagination. The guy is EXTREMELY LUCKY to have been able to walk away from that incident.
While his advice of "this is why you wear a helmet" is definitely sound you have to understand that wearing a helmet does not protect you from stupidity and riding beyond your means. People tend to misunderstand the point of wearing a helmet (or wearing a seatbelt, or having airbags, etc..) as no amount of protection can protect you as well as preventing the accident can. Virtually all automotive/motorcycle accidents that happen that involve only one person is the result of them either driving too aggressively or not paying attention.
If I had to bet on the survival of an idiot with a helmet versus a responsible rider without one the responsible rider would get my bet hands down. While a helmet can save your life in the event of an accident it does nothing to protect the rest of your body and definitely does nothing to help prevent the accident in the first place!
Personally I would have had a lot more respect for the guy if his advice was "this is why you pay attention" or "this is why you don't ride like a crazy lunatic" instead of the helmet comment.
As far as you claiming that what you witnessed to be "the coolest thing" well let me tell you something... next time you're in an accident I'll be sure to how cool I thought it was and we'll see how you feel about that.
You definitely have some maturing to do...
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I hope you aren't in high school yet.
I'm in 10th grade ive never been good at lit
Being an experienced rider I can tell you - motorcycle crashes aren't cool. Not by any sense of the imagination. The guy is EXTREMELY LUCKY to have been able to walk away from that incident.
While his advice of "this is why you wear a helmet" is definitely sound you have to understand that wearing a helmet does not protect you from stupidity and riding beyond your means. People tend to misunderstand the point of wearing a helmet (or wearing a seatbelt, or having airbags, etc..) as no amount of protection can protect you as well as preventing the accident can. Virtually all automotive/motorcycle accidents that happen that involve only one person is the result of them either driving too aggressively or not paying attention.
If I had to bet on the survival of an idiot with a helmet versus a responsible rider without one the responsible rider would get my bet hands down. While a helmet can save your life in the event of an accident it does nothing to protect the rest of your body and definitely does nothing to help prevent the accident in the first place!
Personally I would have had a lot more respect for the guy if his advice was "this is why you pay attention" or "this is why you don't ride like a crazy lunatic" instead of the helmet comment.
As far as you claiming that what you witnessed to be "the coolest thing" well let me tell you something... next time you're in an accident I'll be sure to how cool I thought it was and we'll see how you feel about that.
You definitely have some maturing to do...
He just took the turn to wide, And safety and paying attention is what I do anyways when I drive. I'm a very un-aggressive driver, and I do my duty of looking out so I don't endanger the other drivers. I Have seen some pretty bad teen drivers, I'd like to set myself apart from the crowd.
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I stopped riding bikes in NJ after a nice old lady backed out of her driveway right in front of me...on a rainy day!
I ask all the young riders I meet how many times they have dropped their bikes due to crazy auto drivers. If they say never I tell them "You will...oh yes, you will, so be prepared!"
I see people riding with shorts, t-shirts and SANDLES, in NJ of all places.
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As far as you claiming that what you witnessed to be "the coolest thing" well let me tell you something... next time you're in an accident I'll be sure to how cool I thought it was and we'll see how you feel about that.
You definitely have some maturing to do...
geez, take a chill man. i've been in an accident where both cars got totaled and i spent time in the er. a silly broad blew a stop sign in a 45mph zone and stopped in the intersection, i didn't have time to avoid hitting her. once i got calmed down enough that the woman wasn't in danger of further injury, i thought about how cool the crash itself must have looked to the people who saw it. the damage to the cars was pretty cool, pushed the entire engine compartment of my car back 5 inches and jammed the doors shut. the corolla the woman was driving was v-shaped and got hung up on a street sign.
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I stopped riding bikes in NJ after a nice old lady backed out of her driveway right in front of me...on a rainy day!
I ask all the young riders I meet how many times they have dropped their bikes due to crazy auto drivers. If they say never I tell them "You will...oh yes, you will, so be prepared!"
I see people riding with shorts, t-shirts and SANDLES, in NJ of all places.
The area i live in is kind of rural, but starting to turn into a tourist attraction of a sort, many new buildings and even an apartment complex is being built about 5 minutes down the road. Traffic isn't always really crowded and the only bad drivers I see might appear once a week or 2 weeks. Things are gonna get crazier here soon though... :(
geez, take a chill man. i've been in an accident where both cars got totaled and i spent time in the er. a silly broad blew a stop sign in a 45mph zone and stopped in the intersection, i didn't have time to avoid hitting her. once i got calmed down enough that the woman wasn't in danger of further injury, i thought about how cool the crash itself must have looked to the people who saw it. the damage to the cars was pretty cool, pushed the entire engine compartment of my car back 5 inches and jammed the doors shut. the corolla the woman was driving was v-shaped and got hung up on a street sign.
Moms co-worker got into a nasty accident with a tiny convertable and a SUV, the SUV hit him on the driver side and bent the door in a good 9 inches, Seeing the pictures I thought it was cool, but he won't be able to work for about 9 months. The sadder thing is he's supporting himself, his wife and his parents with his job. Crash was cool to look at but giving it more thought than that can really make you think otherwise in my opinion.
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Moms co-worker got into a nasty accident with a tiny convertable and a SUV, the SUV hit him on the driver side and bent the door in a good 9 inches, Seeing the pictures I thought it was cool, but he won't be able to work for about 9 months. The sadder thing is he's supporting himself, his wife and his parents with his job. Crash was cool to look at but giving it more thought than that can really make you think otherwise in my opinion.
:bhead you need to learn that crashes arent cool. you just said "cooooool" to a crash when someone got hurt, and if i recall, you said "it was only cool because he got away unhurt". grow up.
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there's really nothing cool about seeing a biker go down.
one of our cap cadets lost both of his parents about 2 or so years ago.....when a woman crossed the center line, and whacked them head on on his fathers harley. both parents gone in the blink of en eye. the cadet handled it as well as could be expected, and was lucky to have so many friends within cap......he garnered a LOT of support from us.
just last night, i heard a good friends cousin was killed in upstate new york, also from a person hitting him. supposedly the car driver never saw him, although he was in a group of about 5 or 6 bikes.
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I stopped riding bikes in NJ after a nice old lady backed out of her driveway right in front of me...on a rainy day!
I ask all the young riders I meet how many times they have dropped their bikes due to crazy auto drivers. If they say never I tell them "You will...oh yes, you will, so be prepared!"
I see people riding with shorts, t-shirts and SANDLES, in NJ of all places.
dood....i see "weekend warriors" on their harleys, riding in flipflops, shorts, and fake helmets. i see them with their girlfriends on the back in flip flops. i see guys on crotch rockets wearing loose baggy clothes, sneakers, and silly crap that looks like they're trying to be cool. it's scary.
i'm in cherry hill nj..........
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i see guys on crotch rockets wearing loose baggy clothes, sneakers, and silly crap that looks like they're trying to be cool.
Got my shoelace caught in the chain of my old Yamaha YZF while cruising around town when I was 18. I was doing about 50 mph when the chain pulled my foot and lower leg into the wheel (between the swingarm spars) and sent the bike and myself flipping and sliding down the road. Lucky for me, my shoe ripped away and I got thrown free (I landed in a hedge after a good bounce off of the curb) just as the bike slammed into a phone pole. I imagine that if I had stayed attached to the bike, I'd have a prosthetic lower left leg now as the bike was totally destroyed. The Police Officer that helped move the wreckage (what was left of it) off of the road found my mangled shoe up above the rear wheel... Luckily, I walked away with some minor road rash and a badly sprained ankle. I never rode again without tightly tucking in my laces.
Motorcycles are great, but eventually every rider gets to deal with hitting the ground in one way or another. It's best to accept it and prepare for the inevitable by wearing proper gear.
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I really wish I didn't have to be the first to do this.....
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dood....i see "weekend warriors" on their harleys, riding in flipflops, shorts, and fake helmets. i see them with their girlfriends on the back in flip flops. i see guys on crotch rockets wearing loose baggy clothes, sneakers, and silly crap that looks like they're trying to be cool. it's scary.
i'm in cherry hill nj..........
Morristown, NJ
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Morristown, NJ
you're not all that far away.....if i ever get this dam mustang, you. golfer, and i should meet up for lunch, and an afternoon of embarrassing chevy guys....... :devil :aok
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Raptor, it seems cool. but let me ask... have you heard someone screaming cause their bone is their out of their calf, after landing on a bed of sharp rocks? its gut wrenching the scream.
have you ever seen a mans face ripped to shreds because he was thrown from a car and slid face first on the asphalt?
did any of this make me toss my cookies, no, but it tought me first hand how not to joke about an accident. its all "fun" watching them in movies or fantasizing about seeing one in reality until you are the EMS that has to deal with the patient. not every is as lucky as this guy you speak of.
I dont mean to bash you, but had it been serious injury inflicted on the man you would have thought just the opposite of "this is cool". :cheers:
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Raptor, it seems cool. but let me ask... have you heard someone screaming cause their bone is their out of their calf, after landing on a bed of sharp rocks? its gut wrenching the scream.
have you ever seen a mans face ripped to shreds because he was thrown from a car and slid face first on the asphalt?
did any of this make me toss my cookies, no, but it tought me first hand how not to joke about an accident. its all "fun" watching them in movies or fantasizing about seeing one in reality until you are the EMS that has to deal with the patient. not every is as lucky as this guy you speak of.
I dont mean to bash you, but had it been serious injury inflicted on the man you would have thought just the opposite of "this is cool". :cheers:
ya know? there is no way in hell you can possibly get paid enough to do the job you do sir. :salute
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taking my EMT Basic class now, serve local fire department. thank you CAP. :salute
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But those of you guys who have kids, have you noticed how the perception of life changes more and more after you got kids?
I used to be a wild one, and absolutely had "wanted" posted all over my forehead when it got to things like crazy car/motorcycle driving. But since it was being posted in my forehead I did not see it myself until I got older and got me a mirror.. read-> (kid)
I used to swear that I would never grow up and be one of those boring A4 characters that live by the law, drive the speed limits, drive a boring stationwagon to the mall, shortly spoken fall into that boring pit of autopilot life that parental responsibility seemed to be.. Well, guess what.... :noid
I got rid of the stationwagon, but that has more to do with the upcoming 40 years crisis than anything else I guess.. :old: :lol
But it is kinda funny to think back at how I used to live, not afraid of anything and living by the code of: "It'd never happen to me". And now.. Well, it can sure happen to anyone, but I am SO lucky it never happened to me! Yet anyway.. :pray
And each time I feel like stepping on it nowadays I just have to take a look in my rearview mirror and look into those blue eyes of junior in the back seat and I get all warm and fuzzy inside again.. :P
-Shortversion story of my life- :D
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Jesus...and I thought the younger generation were a bunch of babies...
You guys take things to n'th degree and never look back..."People getting hurt are not cool.." OH REALLY!? No $#%@
He was not talking about any injuries what so ever...he was talking about how a potentially bad accident turned into a possible learning experience...
Lets take football for example...you have a free safety in the backfield that JUST TOTALLY destroys a RB going for the touchdown. The safety literally pushes the RB into the air and makes him flip on his back, but the RB jumps right up and walks away... NOW THAT IS COOL!
Now here is the fun police coming in...(IE: You, Skorpion and a few others) Oh that's not cool, he could of broke his back, neck, leg, arm, ect... SHUT UP! I don't care what coulda happened...the fact is, IT DID NOT.
You focus so much on what could have happened you forget to enjoy the wonders of life, the wonder of how this biker who could have been hurt, did not. The cool thing is he did not get hurt... and to be honest seeing some machines being destroyed is cool. Destruction in itself is cool because it is chaos...in a world of control the hunger for chaos grows...
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luckily this guy only broke a motorcycle,obviously he had more than just a good headgear I am guessing full leathers or he would had had some roadrash.
I have been riding for my whole life first bike was a rupp roadster, I was ten broke it in half jumpin the driveway..lol...If any youngungs just getting their license please rememeber it only takes a second at 50 miles an hour to die,parents please make sure your kids take rider courses before letting them buy a crotch rocket and proper riding apparel a must,full face helmet and leathers a plus :aok
motorcycle riding can be a great family experience it can aslo lead to tragedy ride safe
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the fact is, IT DID NOT.
you did not catch my point on my post (assuming your referencing it). you clearly have not seen what i mentioned in my post, "IT DID NOT" is kind of like saying "It wont happen to me". just as easy as it didnt happen, it could VERY easily have been a blood spewing mess.
luckily this guy only broke a motorcycle,obviously he had more than just a good headgear I am guessing full leathers or he would had had some roadrash.
I have been riding for my whole life first bike was a rupp roadster, I was ten broke it in half jumpin the driveway..lol...If any youngungs just getting their license please rememeber it only takes a second at 50 miles an hour to die,parents please make sure your kids take rider courses before letting them buy a crotch rocket and proper riding apparel a must,full face helmet and leathers a plus :aok
motorcycle riding can be a great family experience it can aslo lead to tragedy ride safe
this is as true as it gets. i dont have my bike license, but i have some buddies who do, thank god their responsible and wear their gear.
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you did not catch my point on my post (assuming your referencing it). you clearly have not seen what i mentioned in my post, "IT DID NOT" is kind of like saying "It wont happen to me". just as easy as it didnt happen, it could VERY easily have been a blood spewing mess.
"It did not" it nothing like saying "it wont happen to me." Are you assuming that if you think like that and say that crashes are cool when no one gets hurt, that we automatically assume it wont happen to us?
It is because we know the consequences of crashes we can have an appreciation of how cool it is when someone escapes death. Cool, lucky, amazing, ect....all mean the same.
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It is because we know the consequences of crashes we can have an appreciation of how cool it is when someone escapes death. Cool, lucky, amazing, ect....all mean the same.
if you were trying to make this point in your original post, i appologize. I agree with it 95%... but there is always some sort of injury sustained in an accident, long or short term, physical or mental.
speed im sure played a large role in the act of the man not having an injury. sure, moto cross riders take spills doin 100, and some times more, and walk away fine, but they arent sliding into curbs or trees or other vehicles (as much). in all reality, how often do you see a civilian wearing full protective gear on the road? most i see is a helmet and padded jacket. i seldom see pants or boots.
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The MCY accidents are always the worst. The victims are almost always young with futures that were full of promise. The familys are always devestated. Theres somthing about young people dieing thats many times worse then old farts like me dropping.
And the accidents themselves? I once had a kid who wiped out at 90mph and go head first "no helmut" into a concrete elevated train support. I had to use a shovel and a broom to bag, for the ME, what once was a young mans mind. And the state and county guys got it far worse then we do. Fatals all the time.
Honestly at this point in my life I dont want to see anyone suffering or dieing. Not even the bad guys who have it coming.
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damn rich, rough impact ofr the young man.
where my dad came from (down by NYC) he went to a MVA. they pull up the in the ladder (doubled as a rescue) and they see this red substance across the road. no biggie, they get closer and they realize it was the girls brains.
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The guy was wearing a t shirt shorts and tennis shoe's, I decided for myself to wear jeans and a padded jacket with a helmet. Boots or tennis shoes I don't know. I would like to set a good example on what should be worn.
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The guy was wearing a t shirt shorts and tennis shoe's, I decided for myself to wear jeans and a padded jacket with a helmet. Boots or tennis shoes I don't know. I would like to set a good example on what should be worn.
boots. when you spill (God forbid) your foot will have more support and better protection over all.
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you did not catch my point on my post (assuming your referencing it). you clearly have not seen what i mentioned in my post, "IT DID NOT" is kind of like saying "It wont happen to me". just as easy as it didnt happen, it could VERY easily have been a blood spewing mess.
this is as true as it gets. i dont have my bike license, but i have some buddies who do, thank god their responsible and wear their gear.
i do have my bike license. i've had it since i was about 25. i haven't ridden in about 3 years, due to various reasons, ranging from being too(in my opinion) tired to be safe on a bike, in too bad(in my opinion) of a mood to make good decisions on a bike, or lousy weather.
lately, it's been the sheer incompetence of jersey drivers that's kept me off the bike. it'll be the one i don't see that gets me.
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definatly the boots that way they can find yer feet intact atleast :devil
I always wear heavy Boots,Jeans,gloves,full face snell/DOT approved helmet
Leather jacket and chaps in cold weather or long rides. I do admit to skipping the leather jacket on hot days
Pavement hurts really bad,really really BAD!
Shorts and flip flops are intended for the beach not a 9 second Hyabusa :uhoh
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Pavement hurts really bad,really really BAD!
Shorts and flip flops are intended for the beach not a 9 second Hyabusa :uhoh
speakin from expierence, eh?
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roadrash from learnin to ride a bicycle when I was a kid
fell in the dirt on the old Suzuki TM250 afew times
been lucky so far on the road, a few close calls :bolt:
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Don't jinx it....
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When I was 18 I was driving my Mom's car and a friend from junior high hit me while on his motorcycle. He was 100% in the wrong, which mattered to the police and attorneys. He was wearing a helmet but the speed he was traveling made it a moot point. I watched him die as my two friends and I considered some sort of Boy Scout first aide. I've not been a fan of bikes since. Since then i've had three more friends killed on bikes, over 25-years.
Caveat emptor.
Boo
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When I was 18 I was driving my Mom's car and a friend from junior high hit me while on his motorcycle. He was 100% in the wrong, which mattered to the police and attorneys. He was wearing a helmet but the speed he was traveling made it a moot point. I watched him die as my two friends and I considered some sort of Boy Scout first aide. I've not been a fan of bikes since. Since then i've had three more friends killed on bikes, over 25-years.
Caveat emptor.
Boo
sorry to hear that. Whenever a neighboring town gets a report of a motorcycle vs. Car MVA I always assume the worst and pray for the best. :salute
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I've had several friends die riding bikes, and several die in cars. My first was a friend when we were 14 and he failed to stop for the flag-man. He was instantly crushed by an earth-mover. As with anything riding is a matter or responsibility and experience.
I never let my wife ride without PPE, she will not let me ride with PPE either. Just yesterday I watched as a lady pulled out right in front of my wife, after looking us both in the eyes as she sat at the intersection (I was in trail). Defensive driving is an absolute must. It only takes a second of daydreaming (easy to do when riding, it sorta fun), to lose sight of the road in front of you. We always follow the 12 sec, 8 sec, 4 sec rule, it pays.