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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: grumpy37 on December 27, 2011, 03:19:20 PM
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The number of Bish players in MW has gone down significantly in the last year or so. Most have switched to Nits, a few to rook causing what was already an unbalanced arena to be so lopsidded there really is no point in playing anymore. I dont play much anymore myself because of this and will actually be canceling my account next month because of it. I have no desire to play in the MA. Can anything be done to balance the numbers better in the smaller arenas?
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The number of Bish players in MW has gone down significantly in the last year or so. Most have switched to Nits, a few to rook causing what was already an unbalanced arena to be so lopsidded there really is no point in playing anymore. I dont play much anymore myself because of this and will actually be canceling my account next month because of it. I have no desire to play in the MA. Can anything be done to balance the numbers better in the smaller arenas?
I haven't played a lot in recent month in MW, so I can't comment directly on that - but in my experience, players are much less country loyal in the minor arenas anyway... for very different reasons...
But to answer the question: I doubt much could be done for a 'better' balance with arenas that are that sparsely populated in the first place, but still work under very the same 'landgrab' game mechanics as the LW arena. For example you could put in much more severe ENY limits, but that could easily cripple all activities /'battles' in a matter of minutes, just because two or three players a logging in or out.
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Take my example: to find a fight in EW or MW, I must be on the lower number side or, at least close to some action. That means that it doesn't matter the chesspiece I'm playing for, I must look at the roster and choose what suits better my objective.
I was playing for Bishops for years. Yes, for years. Not because of any kind of loyalty to the chesspiece but just because... All my known foes where on the other sides, many players I knew were on my side. There was a habit. Also, I was more of an AvA regular, not visiting much the Main Arenas. Then, I got a bit tired of it and I started to visit EW and MW, leaving LW for tank mayhem or instant gratification...
What happened in EW and MW was that, as the numbers dwindled numbers got so low that it was very easy to get unbalanced. The 5 or 6 versus 2 is annoying but when the fight is on the other side of the map... it becomes obvious that you have only one option: you milk or you change sides.
Also, I have encountered more often the milk-runners and land-grabbers attacking the lowest number country - preferably with no opposition - for points and glory. Again, you could choose to be on the same side, play alone on the other side of the map, go to another arena or, as I discovered, change sides and create some kind of opposition.
And you know what I found out? I have fun. I have lots of fun. Most time I am desperately defending a field, sometimes I attack and attempt to capture bases in numerical inferiority, by surprise, break adversary's momentum... I do have fun.
Defection? Maybe. I would call it evolution, perhaps. In order to survive, you must evolve. And if that means changing sides, we do that. Itīs a game, not life. And you change a lot in life, too.
Cheers,
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Also, I have encountered more often the milk-runners and land-grabbers attacking the lowest number country - preferably with no opposition - for points and glory. Again, you could choose to be on the same side, play alone on the other side of the map, go to another arena or, as I discovered, change sides and create some kind of opposition.
And you know what I found out? I have fun. I have lots of fun. Most time I am desperately defending a field, sometimes I attack and attempt to capture bases in numerical inferiority, by surprise, break adversary's momentum... I do have fun.
Great if it worked that way.
I faced the same situation but it played out differently: I was very much willing fighting the 'horde' trying to milk the undefended side (a daily occurrence), but their answer was simply to attack the other country. When I switched sides, they simply changed target again, and I was stuck while they effectively avoided having to fight.
I finally gave up at that point. "They" won (and gloated a lot about it openly), but in the end, EW numbers fell off even more...
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...but their answer was simply to attack the other country. When I switched sides, they simply changed target again, and I was stuck while they effectively avoided having to fight. I finally gave up...
You are very right, it happened to me too, several times. Quite annoying. But luckily, I have not long playing periods so, if it doesn't work for me in EW or MW, I allways can try to find some combat in LW. I miss AvA. But I cannot fight there without icons. No CPU, no RAM, no GC, no eyesight... perhaps less skill, too. It's a gruesome torture and I only get frustrated. That's why I stopped going there.
Cheers, hope to see you in MW or EW Lusche, you're allways a nice fight!
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I have seen many former "Bish" players in MW on knights now... have heard the "rumors" as to why they left, but thats it. Its nice flying alongside guys that I used to fly against. I do see your point though Grumpy... without those guys on the "other" side... it makes MW even more lopsided that it was.
I "mostly" fly knights... MW and LW... not for any chess piece loyalty... but because my friends and squadmates fly knights. Allbeit I am not in MW nearly as much as I used to be. I enjoy LW too.
MW used to draw some decent numbers. But it hasnt for awhile now. Personally... if I log into MW, and see the sides badly unbalanced in my team's favor, I just go to LW. I have no desire to "milkrun" or "toolshed"... and if I am going to help roll a map, I would rather do it fighting.
Dont get me wrong... when I first started playing, I went through the milkrun phase. I just grew out of it. Its much more satisfying to have some good fights while trying to take bases... even if I lose them... than it is to take down unmanned ack and towns. Especially now that I can actually hold my own in a dogfight LOL.
Each arena has its jerks... LW has them... so does MW. I am sure EW does too. They are on all sides... knight, bish, rook... stupid and mean are no respecter of teams. Its those type of personalities that has hurt MW more than anything else. If you make 4 or 5 people mad enough to change sides or arenas in LW... no big deal. But in MW... where at any given time no side has more than 12 on it... 4 or 5 people leaving or switching is a gamechanger... and gets boring quickly.
Grumpy... I always enjoyed flying against you. It would be a shame to see you go... especially over this. I am sure if you stick around things will balance out some. But in any case... no matter what you do... dont let the play style of someone else ruin what you enjoy. :salute
EDIT: To your question of what could be done for force a balance in MW or EW? I will toss out a couple of ideas:
1) Cut MW and EW down to two teams. You can shut off a country in the arena settings easily. While there is always the possibility that it will still be lopsided, it wont stay that way long... especially if you:
2) Have ENY stay in force even if a side is at zero players. Want to milkrun? Fine... but you will have to do it in TBM's and Jeeps.
Just ideas...
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The number of Bish players in MW has gone down significantly in the last year or so. Most have switched to Nits, a few to rook causing what was already an unbalanced arena to be so lopsidded there really is no point in playing anymore. I dont play much anymore myself because of this and will actually be canceling my account next month because of it. I have no desire to play in the MA. Can anything be done to balance the numbers better in the smaller arenas?
No. I have preached about it to those who do not try to balance the sides. I have told them what will happen. It was well on it's way and is about done now.
When you see 15 knit against 2 bish and no rooks it pretty much paints the picture for you. To top it off the 2 bish make a stand, the mass of knits will go attack the rook side that has no one on.
I all but stopped going in there. Most of the folks in there do not care about the game. They are in there to farm perks. Many will tell you just that.
MW used to have 60 people in it. It has the best planeset in the game. (IMHO) RIP MW.
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Isn't two teams the AvA which dosent have bad fights generaly when the sides are not 10 to 1.
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No. I have preached about it to those who do not try to balance the sides. I have told them what will happen. It was well on it's way and is about done now.
When you see 15 knit against 2 bish and no rooks it pretty much paints the picture for you. To top it off the 2 bish make a stand, the mass of knits will go attack the rook side that has no one on.
I all but stopped going in there. Most of the folks in there do not care about the game. They are in there to farm perks. Many will tell you just that.
MW used to have 60 people in it. It has the best planeset in the game. (IMHO) RIP MW.
Exactly.......I used to spend most of my time in MW but not anymore. Too bad too. It was a lot of fun in there.
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When you see 15 knit against 2 bish and no rooks it pretty much paints the picture for you. To top it off the 2 bish make a stand, the mass of knits will go attack the rook side that has no one on.
There are those of us that fly knights in MW that get really annoyed by this. I can think of several people... that still play there... who will say openly "We should attack rooks... there arent any on." Some of us refuse to do it... we either go where the fight is (since both sides are usually attacking knights) or we leave and go to LW. And its not just a "knit" problem either... all 3 sides do it.
It has the best planeset in the game.
Agree...
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They are in there to farm perks.
Perks need to be specific to the arena you earn them in... in other words... perks earned in MW, show up in MW only... perks earned in LW... show up in LW only. Would stop "perk farming" immediately.
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Interesting I don't see any real change in the bishop numbers, its tough to get an estimate, but in the last few days I checked a few screenshots from a year ago and I don't see any number changes.
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I still enjoy mw because the guys you end up fighting seem to be above average, and if you want to get better i figure fight better sticks. many times players switch sides to balance the gameplay, in fact i have recieved a pm when login in to switch sides to balance play. as time has gone on i find myself enjoying early to mid war planes better. you can up a hurri 1 or am2 in late war, but you really have not long to live. it would be nice if more players took the positive view on the lw/mw areanas more often, some of the best evenings fighting take place there. pehaps if more folks played for the joy and less for the score things would work better.
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I still enjoy mw because the guys you end up fighting seem to be above average,
:rofl
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or making a joke, in either case that's a funny comment.
ack-ack
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Ive been playing for 10 years or so now and have always been a bish. I have changed a few times just to be on the other side but not for longer then a few hours. MW has become a 2 front "war", if you can even call it a war anymore, because of the 15v2. What i find funny and annoying at the same time is nits can have a 10-2 advantage and they will send 4 sets of lancs to level a Vbase so there is no chance of the 2 defending. Pretty sad if you ask me.
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The number of Bish players in MW has gone down significantly in the last year or so. Most have switched to Nits, a few to rook causing what was already an unbalanced arena to be so lopsidded there really is no point in playing anymore. I dont play much anymore myself because of this and will actually be canceling my account next month because of it. I have no desire to play in the MA. Can anything be done to balance the numbers better in the smaller arenas?
Even is something could be done, you won't be here to benefit from it. As you announced that you have decided to cancel your account because of the unbalanced side in MW. Sorry to see you go. You might spend some of that last month of play in the LW. As I don't think the sides three are that unbalanced. Perhaps you might find some new friends to play with and aganist. Hope you change your mind.
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Grumpy just look at it as more targets.
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How do you guys play with >20 people in an entire arena? Sounds incredibly boring and hard to find a fight...
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How do you guys play with >20 people in an entire arena? Sounds incredibly boring and hard to find a fight...
A few years ago it was very easy to find a fight but the last couple of years the arena has been populated by squadrons that lack any testicle fortitude and/or skill to fight, which has resulted in the MW arena being nothing more than a slum for timid squadrons that like to capture undefended bases and farm perks. You'd be hard pressed to go into the MW arena and find anyone with any sort of balls or skill to fight.
ack-ack
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No. I have preached about it to those who do not try to balance the sides. I have told them what will happen. It was well on it's way and is about done now.
When you see 15 knit against 2 bish and no rooks it pretty much paints the picture for you. To top it off the 2 bish make a stand, the mass of knits will go attack the rook side that has no one on.
I all but stopped going in there. Most of the folks in there do not care about the game. They are in there to farm perks. Many will tell you just that.
MW used to have 60 people in it. It has the best planeset in the game. (IMHO) RIP MW.
I started going to EW because MW has become what it is. Only problem EW hardley has anyone there. I really miss MW of old. Asking people in MW to switch to balence sides is a waste of time as most just want to fly with the horde and pick the one or two that are opposing. I had someone tell me the other night when I suggested that some of them switch, that they were "winning the war" and if I didnt like it I should go to LW. Those undefended bases were really putting up a fight I guess.
Anyway MW was the best place to be at one time, but I think those days are gone. Darn shame. I'll keep recruiting for more EW guys and maybe that arena can get some life put into it.
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A few years ago it was very easy to find a fight but the last couple of years the arena has been populated by squadrons that lack any testicle fortitude and/or skill to fight, which has resulted in the MW arena being nothing more than a slum for timid squadrons that like to capture undefended bases and farm perks. You'd be hard pressed to go into the MW arena and find anyone with any sort of balls or skill to fight.
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And theres your answer Grumpy. It sucks that your having to cancel your account but playing in there last night I fully understand.
I was the occasional visitor to MW, I have noticed quite a few regulars missing there of late. Last night I logged on for a few hours in MW to find the numbers per country 7,12,1 (I cannot remember which country had which) and a guy called Soren on the all channel calling NKL5 a dweeb he we always be the same etc etc NKL5 was on his own before I logged in and Soren was part of the 12.
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Well grumpy you've been holding on for a long time . It's not only midwar but the entire game is infested with this style of play .Cut your losses and find somewhere else to spend your time .I did and glad i did .But anyways must be a cool trick to be #1 fighter and not be in the arena.unless everyone fighter mode is broken.
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Is there a 12 hour wait till you can change countries in Midwar?
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Is there a 12 hour wait till you can change countries in Midwar?
Nope its 1 hour
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Well grumpy you've been holding on for a long time . It's not only midwar but the entire game is infested with this style of play .Cut your losses and find somewhere else to spend your time .I did and glad i did .But anyways must be a cool trick to be #1 fighter and not be in the arena.unless everyone fighter mode is broken.
:salute I was wondering where you had gone! We had some of the best fights.... I never actually thought i would hit the point that I would rather watch reruns on TV then log into the game and play but i find that more and more the case the last few months.
Grumpy just look at it as more targets.
I dont see you switching from the horde to have the targets...
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You know Grumpy it was not that long ago when the bish had the upper hand in MW. Not a lot of bish whining at that point best I remember.
My experience in MW is that there is a core group of squads and individuals that you can count on being there on a regular basis. The rivalry between these groups is what makes MW fun for me.
But as far as your original point it would be great if the numbers increased, rooks in particular could use some help.
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The number of Bish players in MW has gone down significantly in the last year or so. Most have switched to Nits, a few to rook causing what was already an unbalanced arena to be so lopsidded there really is no point in playing anymore. I dont play much anymore myself because of this and will actually be canceling my account next month because of it. I have no desire to play in the MA. Can anything be done to balance the numbers better in the smaller arenas?
what's happening in midwar, is the same thing that killed early war. there are 2 squads that just roll bases. the fight you'll get is more of a gang rape, than a fight. not a very fun choice.
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You know Grumpy it was not that long ago when the bish had the upper hand in MW. Not a lot of bish whining at that point best I remember.
My experience in MW is that there is a core group of squads and individuals that you can count on being there on a regular basis. The rivalry between these groups is what makes MW fun for me.
But as far as your original point it would be great if the numbers increased, rooks in particular could use some help.
I cant remember a time in the last 3 years the bish have had any upper hand in MW. Im not looking for any upper hand, i dont need one. Id like to be able to log in with enough players on all 3 sides to actually have a fight. Why up with 7 or 8 red guys flying around your base just to get picked before you get off the runway or bombed before you get to the town. And when half of the 7 that are nit now were bish last week makes it even more aggravating. They have taken an already bad situation and made it even worse. Nice avoidance of my comment by the way, when was the last time you switched to make it more even or actually get a fight. Or are you all just content with earning perk points for winning the war 5 times a day because there arnt enough numbers to stop you anymore?
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what's happening in midwar, is the same thing that killed early war. there are 2 squads that just roll bases. the fight you'll get is more of a gang rape, than a fight. not a very fun choice.
As long as you get any, I would still be happy... kinda ;)
When they start to attack the other country just because a single player shows up to defend, it's over.
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what's happening in midwar, is the same thing that killed early war. there are 2 squads that just roll bases. the fight you'll get is more of a gang rape, than a fight. not a very fun choice.
CAP!!!!!!!! where have you been man, long time no see. Its not even 2 squads at this point. A lot have left bish for nit because of a certain player and I have no problem saying TonyJoeys name at this point. Ive played that arena for years and have seen a steady decline over the last 3 or so. Almost every one the leaves points the finger at him. I think its an excuse myself, he gets on my nerves to but im not in his squad so he cant say much to me. Even if he did why let 1 guy yelling at everyone make me switch sides and further unbalance the game. Ive offered this before and I will offer it again, anyone tired of the yelling and screaming is more then welcome to join me. I wont tolerate it period.
I miss the old days in AVA cap, have they brought back the no icon settings yet?
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I'm more of a defender than a base-taker, and have stopped a few base-take attempts from guys that like to fly together in groups and fight toolsheds. Once they realize someone is around, they usually move somewhere else - usually to the side I just came from. Sad, really...they enjoy killing ack at an empty base more than fighting human players.
So my choice is two fights in one arena, then go find one fight in another...or get ganged by mega-hordes flying their uber LW hotrod planes that spray their seemingly unlimited ammo starting at 1k out as they fly straight for my nose.
Yep, been playing lots of Skyrim lately...
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You know Grumpy it was not that long ago when the bish had the upper hand in MW. Not a lot of bish whining at that point best I remember.
My experience in MW is that there is a core group of squads and individuals that you can count on being there on a regular basis. The rivalry between these groups is what makes MW fun for me.
But as far as your original point it would be great if the numbers increased, rooks in particular could use some help.
it's been awhile. i used to be in one of the squads that's rolling bases........and it's been about 2 years since i left that squad.
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As long as you get any, I would still be happy... kinda ;)
When they start to attack the other country just because a single player shows up to defend, it's over.
normally i would say that.....but when you're rusty, drop into a 10-1, you don't last much more than about 1 or 2 turns. even not being rusty, you'll be lucky to last more than 2 turns. if you try to linger out a little, hoping 1 or 2 will come out to fight, you may get that.....then the other 8 come join the fray.
much as i hate to say it, grumpy's right about the arena going downhill. fast.
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Grumpy - It would be a shame if you left. For about a year, many of us left MW and flew LW. I learned a lot in there. Now I spend about an even amount of time in both arenas.
As far as numbers, I have seen Bish with more numbers than the other two sides combined, yet, Bish & Rook fighting only Knights. Eventually, many Bish log off and Knights are still there. I admit, you will more than likely see more Knights on most of the time. But, it is their $15 a month. It is what it is unfortunately.
Taking 4 sets of lancs for a V-Base... ...just tactics. It is done in by the other sides as well as in LW too. Lucky be the guy (or gal) that finds themselves slightly higher when they arrive. It is very easy to point out fault of the other side, but all sides do it as well. With or without numbers. It just sucks when it is happening to me (hehehe).
I normally don't respond to threads like this but I wanted to chime in on this one to voice concern. Remove the whines and personal frustrations (feelings) that are evident in this post, and you have a valid point. This past month I switched once. Considering doing it more often. ENY sucks!
I am glad you posted this Grumpy and I really hope the sides balance out once again. I hope you reconsider cancelling your account. This game has so much more to offer than just MW. I know you know that. In all honesty, the first step in stopping the frustration, is simply squelching all channel and detuning channel 200. I find it pleasurable not watching some of the comments I see being slung around in there.
I hope you stay, Brother!
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it's been awhile. i used to be in one of the squads that's rolling bases........and it's been about 2 years since i left that squad.
Come fly with me!!! im trying to get people together. I dont want to leave the game but there just isnt much to keep me around anymore to be honest. I have the next 2 weeks off so im gonna try and get some together, if it doesnt work im affraid my days here may be over, not that anyone really cares lol and im not trying to get the "oh grumpy please stay we love you comments" LOL :salute
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That's why I added "kinda", for most players this isn't an option at all.
An arena with such low numbers calls for a very different behaviour or settings to make it work. What is no real problem on a higher level on LW can quickly wreck a minor arena.
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CAP!!!!!!!! where have you been man, long time no see. Its not even 2 squads at this point. A lot have left bish for nit because of a certain player and I have no problem saying TonyJoeys name at this point. Ive played that arena for years and have seen a steady decline over the last 3 or so. Almost every one the leaves points the finger at him. I think its an excuse myself, he gets on my nerves to but im not in his squad so he cant say much to me. Even if he did why let 1 guy yelling at everyone make me switch sides and further unbalance the game. Ive offered this before and I will offer it again, anyone tired of the yelling and screaming is more then welcome to join me. I wont tolerate it period.
I miss the old days in AVA cap, have they brought back the no icon settings yet?
during the summer, the timelords were conspiring against me. the couple times i could get in, i found nothing worth staying logged in for, as i'm not into getting gang raped.
the 2 squads i referenced are both knight squads. it's nearly impossible to resist against them, as no one will help, and they swarm.
ava is running short icons right now, which isn't half bad. i had some fun in there before christmas, although i'd still prefer to have no icons at all.
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Grumpy - It would be a shame if you left. For about a year, many of us left MW and flew LW. I learned a lot in there. Now I spend about an even amount of time in both arenas.
As far as numbers, I have seen Bish with more numbers than the other two sides combined, yet, Bish & Rook fighting only Knights. Eventually, many Bish log off and Knights are still there. I admit, you will more than likely see more Knights on most of the time. But, it is their $15 a month. It is what it is unfortunately.
Taking 4 sets of lancs for a V-Base... ...just tactics. It is done in by the other sides as well as in LW too. Lucky be the guy (or gal) that finds themselves slightly higher when they arrive. It is very easy to point out fault of the other side, but all sides do it as well. With or without numbers. It just sucks when it is happening to me (hehehe).
I normally don't respond to threads like this but I wanted to chime in on this one to voice concern. Remove the whines and personal frustrations (feelings) that are evident in this post, and you have a valid point. This past month I switched once. Considering doing it more often. ENY sucks!
I am glad you posted this Grumpy and I really hope the sides balance out once again. I hope you reconsider cancelling your account. This game has so much more to offer than just MW. I know you know that. In all honesty, the first step in stopping the frustrating, is simply squelching all channel and detuning channel 200. I find it pleasurable not watching come of the comments I see being slung around in there.
I hope you stay, Brother!
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I understand the tactics end of leveling a base for capture if the numbers make it needed but why level it when only 1 or 2 can defend against 10 or more? I guess thats just my point of view, it really takes the fun and challenge out of it. Id rather fight for 3 hours taking a vbase with hangers up against a few defenders then take away their only way to defend and snatch it quickly. Guess im just a different type of player.
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That's why I added "kinda", for most players this isn't an option at all.
An arena with such low numbers calls for a very different behaviour or settings to make it work. What is no real problem on a higher level on LW can quickly wreck a minor arena.
This is what the majority of posters dont understand because most of them dont even go into the MW arena, it does need its own settings. At this point either an autobalance system or a 2 front war in my opinion would be the best alternative but then people will say its just another AvA arena. I wouldnt agree though since the MW planset would be available to both sides. Ive noticed that as soon as the numbers even out and no more steam rolling of basses can take place a good number of the steam rollers log off, im guessing because they have forgoten how to fight against an actually enemy and just leave.
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You are right! It is more fun if you leave the hangers up. And I will be the first to admit that you are an excellent defender and fighter. You are no slouch! Sometimes, it seems that when the goon is vis on town, and then dies, you usually see "Grumpy shot you down". After that happens a few times, you usually hear, "we need to drop the hangers". LOL
Unfortunately, there is a guy or two that sort of takes charge (so to speak) on a VOX in MW and the rolling begins. For many in MW, it seems the common goal is to win the map. Others jump on board and spend the better part of a day trying to reach that goal. I think it is just the circumstances.
You mentioned that you fly Bish in MW. How willing are you to switch over to Rook? I know a group of guys considering doing this to balance things out a bit. As AKP mentioned, it isn't fun logging on, and flying that way. It gets boreing and annoying. And, believe it or not, get too many guys on the same VOX that don't know how to use comms, you get upwards of a 30 second lag. By the time you get a check 6 call, you are already in a hanger looking for another bird with ENY issues.
I'd wing up with you any day.
And for the record, I agree with your post. Not that MW is going downhill, but that it would be cool if more guys came in from the MAs and started hammering it out in there.
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You know Grumpy it was not that long ago when the bish had the upper hand in MW. Not a lot of bish whining at that point best I remember.
My experience in MW is that there is a core group of squads and individuals that you can count on being there on a regular basis. The rivalry between these groups is what makes MW fun for me.
But as far as your original point it would be great if the numbers increased, rooks in particular could use some help.
Rivalry?? Oh you must mean which group can capture the most undefended bases. The groups you speak of are all on knits. :)
Bish have had the upper hand in the past. Was no different then. Pointing a finger at someone and saying he jumped off the cliff too does not improve your stance. :aok
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No. I have preached about it to those who do not try to balance the sides. I have told them what will happen. It was well on it's way and is about done now.
When you see 15 knit against 2 bish and no rooks it pretty much paints the picture for you. To top it off the 2 bish make a stand, the mass of knits will go attack the rook side that has no one on.
I all but stopped going in there. Most of the folks in there do not care about the game. They are in there to farm perks. Many will tell you just that.
MW used to have 60 people in it. It has the best planeset in the game. (IMHO) RIP MW.
Pretty much sums it up. Last time I was in there I upped against some GV milkers at 6 to 1 odds in a Tiger. I was chastised for not fighting fair and was informed as to how skilless I was. Bunch of meanies. :cry
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I relish defending in mid war !! I love it when I'm on the low number side and get to defend a v base!!
The problem with midwar is not just any one thing tho, for starters the players that play there are always the same 20 or 30 players, after a while everyone figures out who is better and who is the easy kill, if shuffled shows up on the enemy side you know exactly what to expect. Check 6 high 38. Or Xtiger. Check the B-25 tail gunner, this gets old!
Also as one side gets handed its hat over and over, players change sides to be on the winning side and why not? Nobody wants to lose all the time.
I have started switching sides in every arena except MW but plan on doing so there in the future, I don't want to fight my former squadmates tho. So I will switch to rook and fight bish or bish to fight rook I just don't like to kill knights! I'm not sorry that I have loyalty to my friends !! They are a great bunch of guys!!!
I do think MW should be. 2 side arena for at least a short test period , say one tour, with a thirty minute side switch, If it flops it won't be hard to change back!
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Rivalry?? Oh you must mean which group can capture the most undefended bases. The groups you speak of are all on knits.
No I mean killing Flying Furies and Unforgiven.
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Pretty much sums it up. Last time I was in there I upped against some GV milkers at 6 to 1 odds in a Tiger. I was chastised for not fighting fair and was informed as to how skilless I was. Bunch of meanies. :cry
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I relish defending in mid war !! I love it when I'm on the low number side and get to defend a v base!!
The problem with midwar is not just any one thing tho, for starters the players that play there are always the same 20 or 30 players, after a while everyone figures out who is better and who is the easy kill, if shuffled shows up on the enemy side you know exactly what to expect. Check 6 high 38. Or Xtiger. Check the B-25 tail gunner, this gets old!
Also as one side gets handed its hat over and over, players change sides to be on the winning side and why not? Nobody wants to lose all the time.
I have started switching sides in every arena except MW but plan on doing so there in the future, I don't want to fight my former squadmates tho. So I will switch to rook and fight bish or bish to fight rook I just don't like to kill knights! I'm not sorry that I have loyalty to my friends !! They are a great bunch of guys!!!
I do think MW should be. 2 side arena for at least a short test period , say one tour, with a thirty minute side switch, If it flops it won't be hard to change back!
:salute WWhiskey! Good points... and we are considering doing the same thing in MW now too. I dont mind if you shoot at me :D
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You are right! It is more fun if you leave the hangers up. And I will be the first to admit that you are an excellent defender and fighter. You are no slouch! Sometimes, it seems that when the goon is vis on town, and then dies, you usually see "Grumpy shot you down". After that happens a few times, you usually hear, "we need to drop the hangers". LOL
Unfortunately, there is a guy or two that sort of takes charge (so to speak) on a VOX in MW and the rolling begins. For many in MW, it seems the common goal is to win the map. Others jump on board and spend the better part of a day trying to reach that goal. I think it is just the circumstances.
You mentioned that you fly Bish in MW. How willing are you to switch over to Rook? I know a group of guys considering doing this to balance things out a bit. As AKP mentioned, it isn't fun logging on, and flying that way. It gets boreing and annoying. And, believe it or not, get too many guys on the same VOX that don't know how to use comms, you get upwards of a 30 second lag. By the time you get a check 6 call, you are already in a hanger looking for another bird with ENY issues.
I'd wing up with you any day.
And for the record, I agree with your post. Not that MW is going downhill, but that it would be cool if more guys came in from the MAs and started hammering it out in there.
my last time in mw, you were with the bunch flying from the cv trying to drop a base. i kinda snuck up on ya. whoever was winging with you "egressed" towards the cv(which was just off the coast) as soon as you were gone.
immediately after i got you, there were no less than 6 enemy cons coming from that cv into a base defended by 2. at that point, i believe there were only 2 of us on, and about 12 knights. you shoulda switched. there'd have been more targets(unless you count the buildings)
the time limit on switching makes it hard too, as i've switched to find a fight, and no sooner is there some resistance shown, than the rolling moves to the other side of the map.
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Ive been back in there for the past few days. Ive enjoyed myself. Grumpy is always, well.........grumpy.
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rooks in particular could use some help.
Which is the reason I fly MW Rooks 98% of the time.
It strikes me a bit funny that the once prominant Bish players/squads squeal about unfair the present inbalance now in favor of Nits. Flip side of the coin, the Nits, who griped about Bish hordes now mimic the same foolish tactics.
You want good, balanced fights? Join the underdogs.
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Which is the reason I fly MW Rooks 98% of the time.
It strikes me a bit funny that the once prominant Bish players/squads squeal about unfair the present inbalance now in favor of Nits. Flip side of the coin, the Nits, who griped about Bish hordes now mimic the same foolish tactics.
You want good, balanced fights? Join the underdogs.
Most wont change sides in MW. No idea what the mindset is that keeps them from trying to improve game play.
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I remember playin Rook in Midwar, when Rooks ruled the Roost there, everything comes and goes. Loved Midwar, because we often had rip roarin fights without the mega numbers of players in latewar. With lower numbers, every player counts, has to be able to hold his end up, pull it out in the clutch, play their part, or ya get clobbered. So many times in MW it comes down to the one guy, hangin by a thread, that pulls a good move, at the critical moment, (or blows it). And that decides the battle! That is what always attracted me about MW!
Be back soon. Good to see lots of the old names still here. Don't leave grump, gotta kill me some more!
PAK
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snip........., if shuffled shows up on the enemy side you know exactly what to expect. Check 6 high 38. Or Xtiger. Check the B-25 tail gunner, this gets old! .....snip
Well tell your team mates to quit climbing so I don't have to climb to them :rofl
Much rather not waste time climbing. That is why a base being attacked by a cv is so appealing. Take off, fight, die...... rinse and repeat. No climb required. :)
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I miss AvA. But I cannot fight there without icons.
Icons are back on in AvA, Sparow. They're a bit shorter than those in the MA, but they work just fine.
Two things AvA does not have that avoid the problems this thread describes about the MW:
- No way to win the map. You get no reward for taking bases.
- No perks awarded, and even if there were, there's no way to take them with you to other arenas.
Because there are no rewards for map-taking or perk-farming there's only one thing left to do in the arena, and that's to fight other people. While this sounds appealing (or at least it does to me), it has turned out to be one of the reasons so many people avoid the AvA. There are no "goals," no rewards for "teamwork," no Grand Strategy. I imagine HTC could make MW, EW or any other arena the same, and you would still end up with arenas that had limited appeal.
- oldman
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Icons are back on in AvA, Sparow. They're a bit shorter than those in the MA, but they work just fine.
Two things AvA does not have that avoid the problems this thread describes about the MW:
- No way to win the map. You get no reward for taking bases.
- No perks awarded, and even if there were, there's no way to take them with you to other arenas.
Because there are no rewards for map-taking or perk-farming there's only one thing left to do in the arena, and that's to fight other people. While this sounds appealing (or at least it does to me), it has turned out to be one of the reasons so many people avoid the AvA. There are no "goals," no rewards for "teamwork," no Grand Strategy. I imagine HTC could make MW, EW or any other arena the same, and you would still end up with arenas that had limited appeal.
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htere are rewards for teamwork. with the short or no icons, teamwork is necessary to survive a fight. survival is a reward. :aok
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htere are rewards for teamwork. with the short or no icons, teamwork is necessary to survive a fight. survival is a reward. :aok
Exactly how i felt about the arena when there were no icons.
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No I mean killing Flying Furies and Unforgiven.
Just for the record, The Unforgiven always go to the side with the lowest numbers in MW. Always. I've posted here about Midwar before with screenshots of when we were told that by balancing the sides we were ruining the game. We've been told to switch to high numbers or leave because we were ruining Bish's WINTEHWARZ by fighting them. We've had Bish shades grief track us across the map and be quite aggressively spoken to on privatly tuned vox for defending a base - that's right, a guy tuned and told me he would come around my house and beat me up for defending a Vbase.
This is why MW is dying - not because people are switching sides but because certain people in the arena, (I won't mention that it's Tony Joey's squad of shade accounting scum that's doing it, I won't, I promise) believe it is their right to win the map. They actually believe they own the arena. Go in there and do different for a few weeks and see how they speak to you.
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Just for the record, The Unforgiven always go to the side with the lowest numbers in MW. Always. I've posted here about Midwar before with screenshots of when we were told that by balancing the sides we were ruining the game. We've been told to switch to high numbers or leave because we were ruining Bish's WINTEHWARZ by fighting them. We've had Bish shades grief track us across the map and be quite aggressively spoken to on privatly tuned vox for defending a base - that's right, a guy tuned and told me he would come around my house and beat me up for defending a Vbase.
This is why MW is dying - not because people are switching sides but because certain people in the arena, (I won't mention that it's Tony Joey's squad of shade accounting scum that's doing it, I won't, I promise) believe it is their right to win the map. They actually believe they own the arena. Go in there and do different for a few weeks and see how they speak to you.
This... sad but true.
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Exactly how i felt about the arena when there were no icons.
only problem is there is no survival against you. :devil
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Just for the record, The Unforgiven always go to the side with the lowest numbers in MW. Always. I've posted here about Midwar before with screenshots of when we were told that by balancing the sides we were ruining the game. We've been told to switch to high numbers or leave because we were ruining Bish's WINTEHWARZ by fighting them. We've had Bish shades grief track us across the map and be quite aggressively spoken to on privatly tuned vox for defending a base - that's right, a guy tuned and told me he would come around my house and beat me up for defending a Vbase.
This is why MW is dying - not because people are switching sides but because certain people in the arena, (I won't mention that it's Tony Joey's squad of shade accounting scum that's doing it, I won't, I promise) believe it is their right to win the map. They actually believe they own the arena. Go in there and do different for a few weeks and see how they speak to you.
actually i almost ALWAYS see knights doing the "winthewarz" thing. i can name the squads if ya'll want. i used to be part of one of them, and never saw a single member on another country. i switch to whatever side is low numbers. then when the hordes go to the other side of the map, i either log, or fly buffs till my time's up and i can switch again.
not to hijack....but this brings to point....the time to side-switch needs to go away.
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Just for the record, The Unforgiven always go to the side with the lowest numbers in MW. Always. I've posted here about Midwar before with screenshots of when we were told that by balancing the sides we were ruining the game. We've been told to switch to high numbers or leave because we were ruining Bish's WINTEHWARZ by fighting them. We've had Bish shades grief track us across the map and be quite aggressively spoken to on privatly tuned vox for defending a base - that's right, a guy tuned and told me he would come around my house and beat me up for defending a Vbase.
This is why MW is dying - not because people are switching sides but because certain people in the arena, (I won't mention that it's Tony Joey's squad of shade accounting scum that's doing it, I won't, I promise) believe it is their right to win the map. They actually believe they own the arena. Go in there and do different for a few weeks and see how they speak to you.
Take tony out and they are actually a good group of guys. Im not sure any of them actually have a shade account except for tony. I dont play as much anymore so things may have changed though. They by no means feel they own the map or its their right to win the map. We are all just looking for a fun fighting arena thats fairly balanced as far as numbers are concerned.
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only problem is there is no survival against you. :devil
all the more reason to join me......
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Oldman,
By any chance you got a 16 color map with green ground, brown mountains shaped like giant pyramids and blue water? Sounds really familur in a dejavu kinda way.
AvA is great for short distance fights until some BeBop squad drops in and hoards the low number side. Once they get bored and leave, everyone else has with them. Then I catch bits and peices of thier chest thumping later on about how badarse they were in the AvA and the kinds of weak chumps who hang out in there. That's the only draw back to the place these days.
Don't really understand why the AvA is passed over. It's the short distance cozy kind of mano-E-mano combat that all of the uber sticks and lone eagles in the MA whine about being destroyed by the Hoard lemmings. They could easily all go to the AvA and live the dream. Especialy since they all claim it's the man and not the ride that matters while they are making fun of whiners in this forum.
I Do remember back when it was called Combat Theater a few hot sticks would drop in and challenge the 5-10 on the other side to come get them. Much less HOing and lots of (GF!) in the text buffer. Helped that there were a couple of dedicated full time CT squads back then. Seems Oldman was a pretty hot stick back in those days..........gave lots of (GF!) to everyone becasue they upped into those unfreindly hotstick saturated skys.
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Take tony out and they are actually a good group of guys. Im not sure any of them actually have a shade account except for tony.
They ALL use each others accounts to shade. Whoever isn't online becomes the shade. Tony takes each of their login details when they join his squad;
(http://hphotos-iad1.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/377198_10150381980294798_827524797_8144762_2104759741_n.jpg)
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all the more reason to join me......
hhmm.......good idea. but then you'd hang me out there as bait. :devil :neener:
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They ALL use each others accounts to shade. Whoever isn't online becomes the shade. Tony takes each of their login details when they join his squad;
(http://hphotos-iad1.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/377198_10150381980294798_827524797_8144762_2104759741_n.jpg)
That's probably something that should be taken up with hitech, right there....
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That's probably something that should be taken up with hitech, right there....
Or just baiting & the fish are biting.
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They ALL use each others accounts to shade. Whoever isn't online becomes the shade. Tony takes each of their login details when they join his squad;
(http://hphotos-iad1.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/377198_10150381980294798_827524797_8144762_2104759741_n.jpg)
I guess it depends on what you consider a shade account. I always took them as accounts used to perk farm. Anyway if he and others have stooped that low then it is a sad day. I can tell you that specter does not cheat in any way shape or form. We have been friends on and off this game for many many years. Tony on the other hand, well he is just Tony.
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hhmm.......good idea. but then you'd hang me out there as bait. :devil :neener:
Not my fault they go after the better smelling meal...... Ill do my best to clear your 6 before they get close enough to find out how bad you actually smell... :devil
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the side are pretty even tonight! :noid
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Don't really understand why the AvA is passed over.
Because it's basically a quick action, dueling arena.
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Tony takes each of their login details when they join his squad;
Does he get snugglin rights with the sheep and wimmenz as well?
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:noid :noid :noid :noid :noid
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the side are pretty even tonight! :noid
i had too much work around the house to do, otherwise i may have checked it out. when the sides are even, it is the most fun in the game, next to the ava.
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actually i almost ALWAYS see knights doing the "winthewarz" thing. i can name the squads if ya'll want. i used to be part of one of them, and never saw a single member on another country. i switch to whatever side is low numbers. then when the hordes go to the other side of the map, i either log, or fly buffs till my time's up and i can switch again.
not to hijack....but this brings to point....the time to side-switch needs to go away.
Last several months it has been knights but before that it was bish.
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The AVA is passed over by some because it is trying to be another SEA or something. (IMHO) Fights would be going and then some mini scenario would start. Drag many of the fighters off. You either joined it for a long boring haul or you left. The last 2 times I went in there no one was trying to fight. It was all kamikaze.
Back when it was Axis vs Allies it was a fun place. I personally liked it even more with no icons. My eyes are not what they used to be but it added immersion for me.
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They ALL use each others accounts to shade. Whoever isn't online becomes the shade. Tony takes each of their login details when they join his squad;
(http://hphotos-iad1.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/377198_10150381980294798_827524797_8144762_2104759741_n.jpg)
I was in arena when this conversation happened. Somehow I was not surprised.
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Back when it was Axis vs Allies it was a fun place. I personally liked it even more with no icons. My eyes are not what they used to be but it added immersion for me.
What he said, except my eyes are fine :-)
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Ironically, last time I fought Grumpy in MW he was one of a 3 Bish hoard against me, a solo knight. They were trying to roll my V-base unsuccessfully. They all paid with their lives over and over until they gave up in disgust and started attacking undefended Rook bases.
Isn't that the behavior you are going to quit over? :rofl Look back at all of Grumpy's posts~ the fist thing he says in all of them is he is quitting because the game is ruined now~ be it the MA's or AvA. A his name suggests, he is perpetually negative, always has something nasty to say to his opponents, but never makes good on his empty threats to leave the game permanently.
When numbers are lopsided MW can be very boring~ I think a contested win is the thrill most of us are here for. With rare exception Rook and Bish exclusively attack Knight forcing a two front fight. There can be some great fights when the numbers are close. I especially like it when Bish switch to Rook after superior Knight teamwork deprives them of all the Bish bases we need and we focus on Rooks. Many of our worthy Bish opponents have defected because of Bish negativity and disorganization and it is a pleasure fighting alongside them. Knight numbers have been making a comeback after a long spell of Bish number superiority. Bring on more opposition!
To his credit Grumpy is a challenging opponent~ just a quick squelch, and it is wonderful having him as a silent adversary. Always happy when Jokers Jokers show up too for some stiff competition. I had a blast holding eight of them off solo last week, trying to take a Knight airfield for 1.5 hours. Got a good LW type vulching a but got off enough until reinforcements showed up and squashed their one base rampage<<S>>
Aside from some new planes, maps and towns~ the game seems essentially unchanged in character over the last 4 years I've played. I really like the majority of changes and improvements HTC has made and am looking to the new stuff coming down the pipeline.
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Oh this is getting good....
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my last time in mw, you were with the bunch flying from the cv trying to drop a base. i kinda snuck up on ya. whoever was winging with you "egressed" towards the cv(which was just off the coast) as soon as you were gone.
immediately after i got you, there were no less than 6 enemy cons coming from that cv into a base defended by 2. at that point, i believe there were only 2 of us on, and about 12 knights. you shoulda switched. there'd have been more targets(unless you count the buildings)
the time limit on switching makes it hard too, as i've switched to find a fight, and no sooner is there some resistance shown, than the rolling moves to the other side of the map.
hmmm... If I recall - you "snuck up" on heavy planes and you had alt and E. No big deal, but if you are calling anyone out, you should put it all out there. It isn't too difficult to kill a bunch of planes loaded down with ord when you know they are heavy, up a fighter, get alt, then come buzzing in. It is a good tactic to defend. But is just a circumstance. Had we had a light fighter or 2 doing escort, may have been a different outcome. Nothing wrong with taking down buildings if your intent is to drop the town and take the base. Pretty sure we ended up with the base. I get plenty of "kills" that are not buildings. And, I prefer a co alt, co E merge with a no HO shot.
I can tell you that I don't know of anyone in my squad that will stop attacking a base just because it is defended. We prefer for a base to be defended. We'd rather fight while taking a base. It makes the experience multi dimentional. We'll keep coming. I can tell you, with absolute confidence, that I won't stop coming until the town is out of sequence.
As far as side switching. We do that lately to balance out ENY in MW. We attacked both Bish and Knight and took bases in the process. Basically played the game as it is intended in the MAs. We are doing it in LW right now as a matter of fact. Killing buildings and planes equally. Hope to see you on sometime.
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hmmm... If I recall - you "snuck up" on heavy planes and you had alt and E. No big deal, but if you are calling anyone out, you should put it all out there. It isn't too difficult to kill a bunch of planes loaded down with ord when you know they are heavy, up a fighter, get alt, then come buzzing in. It is a good tactic to defend. But is just a circumstance. Had we had a light fighter or 2 doing escort, may have been a different outcome. Nothing wrong with taking down buildings if your intent is to drop the town and take the base. Pretty sure we ended up with the base. I get plenty of "kills" that are not buildings. And, I prefer a co alt, co E merge with a no HO shot.
I can tell you that I don't know of anyone in my squad that will stop attacking a base just because it is defended. We prefer for a base to be defended. We'd rather fight while taking a base. It makes the experience multi dimentional. We'll keep coming. I can tell you, with absolute confidence, that I won't stop coming until the town is out of sequence.
As far as side switching. We do that lately to balance out ENY in MW. We attacked both Bish and Knight and took bases in the process. Basically played the game as it is intended in the MAs. We are doing it in LW right now as a matter of fact. Killing buildings and planes equally. Hope to see you on sometime.
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i know i had alt and e. i planned it that way. i was rolling down the runway, as i saw you guys coming in. i wasn't sure what you two were gonna do at first, so i climbed low, if that makes any sense. i stayed right along the ground as it rose. i also made sure to keep out of icon range, hoping you guys wouldn't notice me. i was slightly pissed that it took me 2x passes to get you, 'cause i know you didn't see me coming. was also pissed that i gave the other guy enough time to egress till help came...... :devil seeing as that town was at sea level, and the hill i climbed was higher......i wanted alt and e 'cause there were 2 of you there, and i didn't know how many more would be coming from the cv.
you did end up with the base. one of the guys that came back, just after i shot ya down ho'd me....i didn't dodge fast enough. he took my right engine, which happened either just before or just after the base was lost. i headed for home. that dood followed me a looooong way to only get nothing. i ain't good enough to fight on one engine.
i generally like fighting you, although they normally end up with me in many many pieces......the only thing i was "calling out" was that you said you switch to even out sides, yet on that night, you were on the side that had 12 players on, attacking a base that was on a side that had only 2 or 3 players on.
that was the biggest reason i left the playmates. i like almost all of those that were members when i did leave. it just seemed as if side switching was frowned upon, and i couldn't see the sense of having all of us in a massive attack for a barley defended base.
funny thing was, that i got kicked out of a squad, before i joined the playmates......for NOT switching sides. :rofl
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A funny thing happened last night. 5 of us switched to rook. They were the low numbered side 7/6/ and 1 at that time. So it was about even. We attacked bish till they left then hit knights. Within an hour. We had 13 players against 2 bish and 5 knights. So a lot of good that did! It is a small arena the chances of an even sided fight are few and far between no matter what side you fly on! I try to just make the best of it!
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Ironically, last time I fought Grumpy in MW he was one of a 3 Bish hoard against me, a solo knight. They were trying to roll my V-base unsuccessfully. They all paid with their lives over and over until they gave up in disgust and started attacking undefended Rook bases.
Isn't that the behavior you are going to quit over? :rofl Look back at all of Grumpy's posts~ the fist thing he says in all of them is he is quitting because the game is ruined now~ be it the MA's or AvA. A his name suggests, he is perpetually negative, always has something nasty to say to his opponents, but never makes good on his empty threats to leave the game permanently.
When numbers are lopsided MW can be very boring~ I think a contested win is the thrill most of us are here for. With rare exception Rook and Bish exclusively attack Knight forcing a two front fight. There can be some great fights when the numbers are close. I especially like it when Bish switch to Rook after superior Knight teamwork deprives them of all the Bish bases we need and we focus on Rooks. Many of our worthy Bish opponents have defected because of Bish negativity and disorganization and it is a pleasure fighting alongside them. Knight numbers have been making a comeback after a long spell of Bish number superiority. Bring on more opposition!
To his credit Grumpy is a challenging opponent~ just a quick squelch, and it is wonderful having him as a silent adversary. Always happy when Jokers Jokers show up too for some stiff competition. I had a blast holding eight of them off solo last week, trying to take a Knight airfield for 1.5 hours. Got a good LW type vulching a but got off enough until reinforcements showed up and squashed their one base rampage<<S>>
Aside from some new planes, maps and towns~ the game seems essentially unchanged in character over the last 4 years I've played. I really like the majority of changes and improvements HTC has made and am looking to the new stuff coming down the pipeline.
Hmmmmmm kinda funny how you can just run your mouth with nothing to back it up. Guess Ill have to remember never to <S> you again for great base defense as I did that day. We also didnt roll 2 sets of lancs to level the base like you would have because of your pure lack of skill in this game period. We left them up to make it fun and exciting. You even said yourself that you were pumped up because of the action. How pumped do you get rolling basses all by yourself? I also logged after we were done so I DID NOT switch to roll rook bases. Id like to say a lot more to/about you but I think I will keep myself above your level as I always have.
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I <S>ed you Grumpy after our exciting battle that morning and as usual, though a little surprised, recieved none in return~ please don't change history. Tried to take the high road with you and always gotten stabbed in the back with some low personal insult that goes way beyond a sporting taunt. Be nice~ its contagious.
The point is, MW and AvA are great venues, that have a core regular fans who prefer it to LW for whatever reasons, it is a game and a past time, no one is forcing you to play~ the greater the participation and sportsmanship the better.
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Some of the most fun I ever had in this game, was in MW, ndisles map, 45-46-47 island.. V46 was the meatgrinder, like Verdun, and the fight would go on for days! Finally drive those darn Knits off the island, and they keep comin back, lol! Viceversa too! Great fights, untill the Rooks kinda fell apart!
The trash talk was so bad, many just left.. Then, those who stayed behind got mobbed and pounded, like me.. I remember askin Slip WTF when he switched to knits, I almost did too, with all the acrimony going on among the Rooks.. Hell I remember AKP, Seadog, and others, when they were easy noob pelts.. Then somehow the situation changed, I was being left alone at Vbases, getting pounded, but denying the base capture.. 10 rooks on, calling for help, none would help me, because I wasn't part of their stupid squadron.. I quit shortly after that..
Had some major thrashin with Toejams Bishes too.. But never as much fun, as against the Alpha81 crew..
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MW used to be fun,with best planeset to boot. But now its just mobs of Furbys rollin basses
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A funny thing happened last night. 5 of us switched to rook. They were the low numbered side 7/6/ and 1 at that time. So it was about even. We attacked bish till they left then hit knights. Within an hour. We had 13 players against 2 bish and 5 knights. So a lot of good that did! It is a small arena the chances of an even sided fight are few and far between no matter what side you fly on! I try to just make the best of it!
bolded.....THIS is why the side switching time limit needs to go.
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was in there last night. mob of 5 on each side! wheres the problem?
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bolded.....THIS is why the side switching time limit needs to go.
Or reduced to 15 minutes. But i totally agree it needs to be changed in MW
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was in there last night. mob of 5 on each side! wheres the problem?
When the MW player count is above 30, side dispersion tends to be pretty well balanced. This leads to some good offense/defense; hence some pretty good fights. Unfortunately, the numbers are usually less than 20, at which point one chess piece winds up with overwhelming firepower. 1 or 2 players, defending a base against 6+ becomes old real fast. The fight becomes a slaughter and the only "fun" to be had is the group rolling base after base in order to win the coveted "You have won the war" perkies.
You want good fights? Lead by example and join the low number chess piece. Or, keep the same mentality and gripe about it. Your choice, really.
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was in there last night. mob of 5 on each side! wheres the problem?
i didn't get home till about 9 or 930 last night. was too tired to try to log in. seems to be the case more and more often.........
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When the MW player count is above 30, side dispersion tends to be pretty well balanced. This leads to some good offense/defense; hence some pretty good fights. Unfortunately, the numbers are usually less than 20, at which point one chess piece winds up with overwhelming firepower. 1 or 2 players, defending a base against 6+ becomes old real fast. The fight becomes a slaughter and the only "fun" to be had is the group rolling base after base in order to win the coveted "You have won the war" perkies.
You want good fights? Lead by example and join the low number chess piece. Or, keep the same mentality and gripe about it. Your choice, really.
bolded.....quite a few on here claim to do just this. very few of us actually do it though.
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Icons are back on in AvA, Sparow. They're a bit shorter than those in the MA, but they work just fine.
Hi Oldman!
That's great news for this graphically impaired - not to mention skill deprived - cartoon pilot!
I'll be showing up soon, AvA has allways been my favourite arena, ever! I also liked the no-icons but I have no machine for that... Got tired of chasing invisible 109's, darn good camo those buggers have!
Cya soon!
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From reading the comments... and from personal experience in MW... I think the real problem is NOT that the sides are unbalanced. That goes up and down depending on when you are on, who is on at the time, and what side they are on.
The real issues are the negative attitudes of some of the players that think they OWN the arena. People who think they can bully everyone into playing their way. People who whine and complain every time they get shot down, accuse others of cheating, playing unfair, and try to force their perception of reality on others. People who think they are better than everyone else in the arena.
In LW its easy to ignore them because there are so many people and so much going on. You dont hear the babble on 200 unless you actively turn it on. In MW... its a much smaller crowd, channel 1 in on by default, so its harder to ignore unless you squelch the channel. (which I often do).
But stop treating people like crap on all channel... or in PM's. Ok... you think you got HO'ed. Deal with it. You got vulched on the runway... get over it. You got 6 1000 lb bombs dropped on your tiger by a lancstuka. Whatever. Smile, salute, and then re-up and go kick his butt... or at least try. If you want to cry about it to your buddies on vox... fine... go ahead if they will listen to it. But dont start slinging mud on all channel. When I see it... I just squelch them anyway. I have even squelched people on my side who wont stop whining. I come here to fight... not to listen to someone cry about someone else who isnt "playing fair".
If someone is getting personal in their verbal attacks on you, or just being a total jackwagon... REPORT & SQUELCH. Done. People that get their voice and chat ability taken away a few times learn to keep their mouths shut. And if they dont... they wont be here much longer.
Yes... the sides do get unbalanced easily in MW. That is an easy fix. Either change sides, or stick around and more people will log on. But dont log off just because you got your hiney handed to you 3, or 4, or 5 times. Learn from it. But it's ridiculous to think that someone should have to change sides every 15 minutes to find a good fight. I have seen fights go on for hours in MW... with fairly even sides. A few leave... and few more come in.
If a group is rolling undefended bases... either go fight them... or let them do it... who cares? They WILL get bored. And if they are taking bases that are being defended... join in the fight. Make them work for it.
I personally enjoy taking bases. Not because I get to shoot at buildings. Not because I get perks for it. But because 1) I get to work as part of a team towards a goal, and 2) the fights that arise over attacking and defending bases are the best ones out there. It beats a mindless furball over empty space any day of the week. If the attack succeeds... awesome. Re-up and go for another one and get ready to fight even harder for it. If it fails... thats fine too. Re-group and either come back with a better plan, or hit a different base while that one resets. But dont just attack bases for the sake of taking them... attack them for the fight that will hopefully come from those who dont want you to take it. I get disappointed if I am attacking a base and no one bothers to come defend. IT'S BORING!
Ok... that's all I have to say about that.
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The real issues are the negative attitudes of some of the players that think they OWN the arena. People who think they can bully everyone into playing their way. People who whine and complain every time they get shot down, accuse others of cheating, playing unfair, and try to force their perception of reality on others. People who think they are better than everyone else in the arena.
Hehehe, reminds me of a certain skwad from EW a couple of years ago. I've got a couple of prime screenies of chat buffer after my SpitV spanked a certain player's quad-hizooka Hurri2c yet again.
I find it sad that in an arena with a low number of core players, that anyone (or any squad) still feels they "own" the arena and refuse to participate in the core element of the game: COMBAT WITH OTHER HUMANS FROM AROUND THE GLOBE.
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Hehehe, reminds me of a certain skwad from EW a couple of years ago. I've got a couple of prime screenies of chat buffer after my SpitV spanked a certain player's quad-hizooka Hurri2c yet again.
Ahhh, sweet memories.... :lol
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Hehehe, reminds me of a certain skwad from EW a couple of years ago. I've got a couple of prime screenies of chat buffer after my SpitV spanked a certain player's quad-hizooka Hurri2c yet again.
I find it sad that in an arena with a low number of core players, that anyone (or any squad) still feels they "own" the arena and refuse to participate in the core element of the game: COMBAT WITH OTHER HUMANS FROM AROUND THE GLOBE.
i had a guy from awhile back in there complain, when he dropped on me in a hurri2c....he missed, and i got a lucky shot from my 38g, which took him down. i think he said i had to have been cheating.
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i had a guy from awhile back in there complain, when he dropped on me in a hurri2c....he missed, and i got a lucky shot from my 38g, which took him down. i think he said i had to have been cheating.
Hehehe.
I was acused of paying Hitech for a special SpitV because "no way a Spit can out-turn a Hurri", and "you the only one that seems to be able to do that". Oh and, "you not that good, but in your special SpitV..." :lol
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Hehehe, reminds me of a certain skwad from EW a couple of years ago. I've got a couple of prime screenies of chat buffer after my SpitV spanked a certain player's quad-hizooka Hurri2c yet again.
You got that right Imadot and Lusche. Soars were fun to shoot down :) Specially Pluto or Eaglehrt
In MW think the main thing is to change your goal when you are playing in there. I used to fly as the lower number in that arena. Like Shuffler said, before G3MF came back, it was the Bish who had the numbers. Nothing really changed, defending, defending, defending. About 2 months ago I decided to switch to the knits and be part of the "Hammer" instead of being hammered by the #'s. It was fun for a change. Like Slipknot mentionned, the X-Playmates do not switch side to attack because of opposition. It may look like that sometimes, but their real goal is to roll the map. That's it. Being good or bad is anybody's opinion. So when they are done with the # of bases they need from one side, they will switch their attack. Last night I logged in, my goal was to hold the attackers from all sides. I was a knit coming in, I switched to Bish to defend for a while. That night, G3MF and friends were rooks taking bases. Did my best to hold them... and knew you just can't hold 6+ guys alone for ever, but it was fun. Darn WWhisky even vulched the only defender on the runway :( me. It's all good, I saved the base twice by shooting troopers. Eventually letting go. So by switching your goal---> this is what I mean. If your goal was to "stop" the base rolling... you will get angry pretty quick because you cannot hold them for ever if you don't have any help. BUT, my goal was to shoot down as many of their bombers and fighter that I could. And in this I had a blast. The pattern used is always the same more or less for taking a base quick. A few bombers (get town), a few heavy fighters(deackers) and a few troop carrier(finalize the property ownership). Now it's pretty easy to stop that.(not if your alone). Be in an advantage position before they get there. Kill enough bombers so they will have to bring more, kill the goon or m3. You stalled the process significantly. Rinse and repeat until they take it anyways if you don't get help. :) If it's not your game, you can always go to LW and try to hold 25+ guys instead of 10+... But I agree with Max, when #'s get more even. Less base taking maybe, but fights that will last for the whole night. :aok
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I was in MW last night around 11:00 pm EST. Low numbers as usual (< 10 when I logged in), but had some fun fights regardless. Only takes a few willing enemies to make for some good times (<S> Charmin and flatiron). I for one, am going to make it a point to stop in there more often. I miss flying in MW and would like to see it get back to the fun arena it used to be. Will also keep my eye on the AVA and give that a try again if there are any numbers in there.
I agree that that the side switching limit needs to be reduced.
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Looks like my thread did what i wanted it to do... Get peoples attention back on MW and get more people back in there!
For those of you that have never flown with me I will say this... I have never thought I own an arena or are the best or better than everyone or anyone for that matter. Ive been playing this a very long time and understand the overall dynamic of how to play the game and thats it. Yes I would prefer to not get hoed, in my opinion it shows serious lack of skill and when done over and over again by certain players yes im going to say something on channel. If you dont like it squelch me, i really dont care. Everyone always says "Im just Grumpy" and i laugh every time i see that. When you guys get all wound up about something ive said I laugh so hard i cant see straight. Its very rare im actually upset when anything is typed, i just do it to get under certain players skin.... and it works every time.
And yes seapuppy, i have been seriously considering leaving the game for almost a year now. Ive taken months off thinking it may help and ive realized its not that im not interested in the game itself, im tired of what the game has become as a whole. That means changes in the game, attitudes of certain players, not just yours, and overall game play. Im less and less interested in signing in, at this point i have to be out of other options of things to do before i sit down and log in and with a family of 5 thats not very often anymore. So remember next time i write some antagonistic remark on all channel directed at you, or anyone else for that matter thats exactly what it is.... an antagonistic remark and you fall for it ever time. I sit back and wait for you to mouth off and just smile, its about the only thing that makes the $15 worth it anymore......Oh and squelching me just proves that deep down inside you know what im saying is true.... :devil
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Its very rare im actually upset when anything is typed, i just do it to get under certain players skin.... and it works every time.
And this helpes the game how...I may ask?
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Good job on generating incidental renewed interest in MW if that's what the thread did. Read some nice posts from AKP and a few others~ looking forward to seeing pangea's 109 some more.
Squelch is just whine control~ and even puppies stop whining after six months. :rofl
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the only thing i don't like about pangea is that i never see him in front of me......he's always in back throwing things at me.
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And this helpes the game how...I may ask?
Helps me get my $15 worth. You cant say im the only one by any means, unless im the only one that just does it for fun.... then im guilty as charged LOL
Just proves to many take things way to seriously
Good job on generating incidental renewed interest in MW if that's what the thread did. Read some nice posts from AKP and a few others~ looking forward to seeing pangea's 109 some more.
Squelch is just whine control~ and even puppies stop whining after six months. :rofl
are you just the exception to the rule in this case then? :D :rofl :banana:
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@ seadog and CAP....looking forward to seeing you guys in MW real soon! Have always had good fights with both of you <<S>>!
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i know i had alt and e. i planned it that way. i was rolling down the runway, as i saw you guys coming in. i wasn't sure what you two were gonna do at first, so i climbed low, if that makes any sense. i stayed right along the ground as it rose. i also made sure to keep out of icon range, hoping you guys wouldn't notice me. i was slightly pissed that it took me 2x passes to get you, 'cause i know you didn't see me coming. was also pissed that i gave the other guy enough time to egress till help came...... :devil seeing as that town was at sea level, and the hill i climbed was higher......i wanted alt and e 'cause there were 2 of you there, and i didn't know how many more would be coming from the cv.
you did end up with the base. one of the guys that came back, just after i shot ya down ho'd me....i didn't dodge fast enough. he took my right engine, which happened either just before or just after the base was lost. i headed for home. that dood followed me a looooong way to only get nothing. i ain't good enough to fight on one engine.
i generally like fighting you, although they normally end up with me in many many pieces......the only thing i was "calling out" was that you said you switch to even out sides, yet on that night, you were on the side that had 12 players on, attacking a base that was on a side that had only 2 or 3 players on.
that was the biggest reason i left the playmates. i like almost all of those that were members when i did leave. it just seemed as if side switching was frowned upon, and i couldn't see the sense of having all of us in a massive attack for a barley defended base.
funny thing was, that i got kicked out of a squad, before i joined the playmates......for NOT switching sides. :rofl
Hahaha - Okay - now do remember you sneaking up on me. I think I realized you 2 seconds before I dies and was to sluggish to do anything but make my crumbling descent look good as it came crashing down to earth.
Again, that is a great tactic. We knew you took off but didn't know EXACTLY where you got off to. Bad SA on my part and a perfect ambush on your part. Kudos.
You usually win most fights with me, but I am getting better. As far as the side switching goes, this is a rescent thing for us we started up (ore aggressively) in the past few days. Sporadic before that.
Believe me, we respect and like you. We enjoy fighting you because you present us a challenge... ...EVERY TIME. No need to explain why you left VF15. VF15 is still a great squad and are usually found flying in LW. Our squad flies differently. We use wingman tactics and use the MAs to practice so we are prepared for FSO. For us, we don't horde. It may look like it as a defender and I can understand that. I often times find myself in a defensive situation with overwhelming odds trying to defend both in MW and in LW. It is the nature of the game in my eyes. I honestly try to squelch all channel and detune channel 200 so I don't get sucked into the chat that often happens after shooting someone down or getting shot down. So if you (or anyone) tries to communicate with me and I am not responsive, it is because I probably don't see it. I am not a rude person.
Anyways, <<S>> to you and hope to see you in the cartoon skies soon, brother! Happy new Year!
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In MW think the main thing is to change your goal when you are playing in there. I used to fly as the lower number in that arena. Like Shuffler said, before G3MF came back, it was the Bish who had the numbers. Nothing really changed, defending, defending, defending. About 2 months ago I decided to switch to the knits and be part of the "Hammer" instead of being hammered by the #'s. It was fun for a change. Like Slipknot mentionned, the X-Playmates do not switch side to attack because of opposition. It may look like that sometimes, but their real goal is to roll the map. That's it. Being good or bad is anybody's opinion. So when they are done with the # of bases they need from one side, they will switch their attack. Last night I logged in, my goal was to hold the attackers from all sides. I was a knit coming in, I switched to Bish to defend for a while. That night, G3MF and friends were rooks taking bases. Did my best to hold them... and knew you just can't hold 6+ guys alone for ever, but it was fun. Darn WWhisky even vulched the only defender on the runway :( me. It's all good, I saved the base twice by shooting troopers. Eventually letting go. So by switching your goal---> this is what I mean. If your goal was to "stop" the base rolling... you will get angry pretty quick because you cannot hold them for ever if you don't have any help. BUT, my goal was to shoot down as many of their bombers and fighter that I could. And in this I had a blast. The pattern used is always the same more or less for taking a base quick. A few bombers (get town), a few heavy fighters(deackers) and a few troop carrier(finalize the property ownership). Now it's pretty easy to stop that.(not if your alone). Be in an advantage position before they get there. Kill enough bombers so they will have to bring more, kill the goon or m3. You stalled the process significantly. Rinse and repeat until they take it anyways if you don't get help. :) If it's not your game, you can always go to LW and try to hold 25+ guys instead of 10+... But I agree with Max, when #'s get more even. Less base taking maybe, but fights that will last for the whole night. :aok
This :aok
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Hahaha - Okay - now do remember you sneaking up on me. I think I realized you 2 seconds before I dies and was to sluggish to do anything but make my crumbling descent look good as it came crashing down to earth.
Again, that is a great tactic. We knew you took off but didn't know EXACTLY where you got off to. Bad SA on my part and a perfect ambush on your part. Kudos.
You usually win most fights with me, but I am getting better. As far as the side switching goes, this is a rescent thing for us we started up (ore aggressively) in the past few days. Sporadic before that.
Believe me, we respect and like you. We enjoy fighting you because you present us a challenge... ...EVERY TIME. No need to explain why you left VF15. VF15 is still a great squad and are usually found flying in LW. Our squad flies differently. We use wingman tactics and use the MAs to practice so we are prepared for FSO. For us, we don't horde. It may look like it as a defender and I can understand that. I often times find myself in a defensive situation with overwhelming odds trying to defend both in MW and in LW. It is the nature of the game in my eyes. I honestly try to squelch all channel and detune channel 200 so I don't get sucked into the chat that often happens after shooting someone down or getting shot down. So if you (or anyone) tries to communicate with me and I am not responsive, it is because I probably don't see it. I am not a rude person.
Anyways, <<S>> to you and hope to see you in the cartoon skies soon, brother! Happy new Year!
i keep trying to get in there, but the timelords conspire against me. quite often these days it seems.
bolded......like i said.....i wanted to have at least a little success.....so i kept myself at treetop as i climbed, and made absolutely sure i stayed out of icon range. thus, it was not poor sa on your part.....even with you concentrating looking in that direction, you'd have been hard pressed to spot me. :devil besides, you had other things you had to be doing too.
i still want them to lower the time limit for side switching, so that i can switch at least as often as the tide changes.....i start out on the low number side sometimes, then it changes to where i'm one of 14 against 4......in that instance i'd switch.....IF I COULD......
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looks like this thread has had some positive influence on MW. Bring your squad some night and give it a try.
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Yes it has... our squad decided to bounce around some to try and balance things out. It has worked... somewhat. But, there is an inherent problem with an arena that may only have at most 20 players on at a time... When a few players from one side leave... the whole thing is out of whack again. Also... with say 5 - 7 players on per side... everyone tends to stick together... making for more of a "2 sided" war. If the 5 knights all go after the rooks... and the 5 rooks are all defending against the knights... the bish have nothing to do but roll undefended bases until the knights and rooks both turn on them. Then they are outnumbered 2:1... fighting a 2 front war.
You really need 8 or more players on per side to be able to attack and/or defend on 2 fronts. Hopefully... it will get there.
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Yes it has... our squad decided to bounce around some to try and balance things out. It has worked... somewhat. But, there is an inherent problem with an arena that may only have at most 20 players on at a time... When a few players from one side leave... the whole thing is out of whack again. Also... with say 5 - 7 players on per side... everyone tends to stick together... making for more of a "2 sided" war. If the 5 knights all go after the rooks... and the 5 rooks are all defending against the knights... the bish have nothing to do but roll undefended bases until the knights and rooks both turn on them. Then they are outnumbered 2:1... fighting a 2 front war.
You really need 8 or more players on per side to be able to attack and/or defend on 2 fronts. Hopefully... it will get there.
Yes once the cancer has done its work it is hard to get off life support. Most left in there did not listen. Now the numbers are so low that it is hard for a group to switch sides. I hardly fly in there now. LW looks really good after seeing what has happened in MW.
Some time back I even considered leaving my login parked on MW knights. That way I could assist them with their eny. :) Unfortunately that would've made me no better so I passed.
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Yes once the cancer has done its work it is hard to get off life support. Most left in there did not listen. Now the numbers are so low that it is hard for a group to switch sides. I hardly fly in there now. LW looks really good after seeing what has happened in MW.
Some time back I even considered leaving my login parked on MW knights. That way I could assist them with their eny. :) Unfortunately that would've made me no better so I passed.
well, you know where the "cancer" will come next, right?
first ew.
second mw
next lw.
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great numbers tonight, and even side switching to balance... maybe all my complaining will pay off LOL :salute
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great numbers tonight
500+ on a small map on LW made a number of players go to MW instead.
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Yes LW was a bit off kilter but tolerable. I had some fun.
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looks like this thread has had some positive influence on MW. Bring your squad some night and give it a try.
Did that once the amount of crying about it was :headscratch: Surprising.
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Did that once the amount of crying about it was :headscratch: Surprising.
MW numbers are too low for squads. Better for individuals.
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MW numbers are too low for squads. Better for individuals.
The whole point is to improve numbers in MW, so bringing squads would be the ideal situation wouldnt it?
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if y,all agree to fly nice and straight for me so i can shoot you down easy, i will come viset MW again :devil
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The whole point is to improve numbers in MW, so bringing squads would be the ideal situation wouldnt it?
only if those squads were willing to split up if necessary in order to keep the fighting fun and some semblance of even......
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The whole point is to improve numbers in MW, so bringing squads would be the ideal situation wouldnt it?
Only if they are capable of flying on opposite sides of the fence.
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KInd of defeats the reason for having a squad if you are not going to fly together doesn't it?
I must have missed all the WW2 war stories about lone pilots flying around just looking for a "good fight"
I thought they all flew around in squads ( squadrons ). I can just see the Germans and the Brits trying to even out the fight " you three go paint your 109's like spits and fly for the Brits today, they don't have nearly enough players"
( pilots )
:airplane:
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KInd of defeats the reason for having a squad if you are not going to fly together doesn't it?
I must have missed all the WW2 war stories about lone pilots flying around just looking for a "good fight"
I thought they all flew around in squads ( squadrons ). I can just see the Germans and the Brits trying to even out the fight " you three go paint your 109's like spits and fly for the Brits today, they don't have nearly enough players"
Hence the problem. In a lightly-populated arena, one squad flying together can quickly convert the evening into a gang-fest. There is no easy solution; as you point out, squad members like to fly together, but game play can suffer if they don't split up. Which I believe was Shuffler's original point about squads. Ideally you can get two (or more) squads, on opposing sides.
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KInd of defeats the reason for having a squad if you are not going to fly together doesn't it?
I must have missed all the WW2 war stories about lone pilots flying around just looking for a "good fight"
I thought they all flew around in squads ( squadrons ). I can just see the Germans and the Brits trying to even out the fight " you three go paint your 109's like spits and fly for the Brits today, they don't have nearly enough players"
( pilots )
:airplane:
Some folks will always put theirselves before the game. That is what happened to MW. That is why MW is on life support.
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KInd of defeats the reason for having a squad if you are not going to fly together doesn't it?
I must have missed all the WW2 war stories about lone pilots flying around just looking for a "good fight"
I thought they all flew around in squads ( squadrons ). I can just see the Germans and the Brits trying to even out the fight " you three go paint your 109's like spits and fly for the Brits today, they don't have nearly enough players"
( pilots )
:airplane:
Like all games, this one is more fun when everyone has an equal chance. Comparing it to the real thing is silly.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ what he said.....
Last few days G3 has split up onto different sides and the fights have been 1000000000 better. earlier today if they had all stayed nit it would have been 14+ nits with 2 or 3 bish and rook. Best time ive had in the arena in years.
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wow.......i might actually hafta stop in........
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pig fly, rooks win one in MW tonight.
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When I logged in last night there were 5 people in MW. I went straight to LW.
Grump's post about folks evening teams is good news. If done on a regular basis MW could possibly start getting some numbers again. That would allow the squad folks to change back to their team side.
Watching........... :aok
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When I logged in last night there were 5 people in MW. I went straight to LW.
Grump's post about folks evening teams is good news. If done on a regular basis MW could possibly start getting some numbers again. That would allow the squad folks to change back to their team side.
Watching........... :aok
if 30 people or more do what you did last night every night we are losing out on 30 + players every night. A big problem is people see low numbers so they dont go in. If all the players came in that say they dont because of the low numbers we wouldnt have a numbers problem would we?
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Some folks will always put themselves before the game. That is what happened to MW. That is why MW is on life support.
not sure if that was meant as a dig at me ?
I am switching, to help the arena, and I put my squad mates above my own desires and rarely ask anyone for anything other than supplies,
I fight my own fights and help anyone who asks me.
MW is as strong/weak as it has ever been, I have played in it since it was created, those of you who come in occasionally hoping to automatically find targets to kill,
whine about how it is not what "you" think it should be instead of spending time turning it into something more to your liking.
No arena in this game fits "your " description of the perfect arena, yet you can create your own now! but no one does, why is that?
I do look for "player created arena's" before I log in just to see if anyone has set up a GV map, yet no one ever does, so I go to whatever arena and find some fun to be had, I don't come here to whine about it tho, I don't go telling people all about how selfish game play ruined an arena, If I can't find the fight I want,, I up somewhere and make it come to me!
I am not just digging at you either, I have seen you one different sides many times, I don't know your motive for what side you decide to play on, but I doubt it is for the betterment of "the arena" more likely for your pleasure, and that is fine,, it's your money spend it any way you want!
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No. I have preached about it to those who do not try to balance the sides. I have told them what will happen. It was well on it's way and is about done now.
When you see 15 knit against 2 bish and no rooks it pretty much paints the picture for you. To top it off the 2 bish make a stand, the mass of knits will go attack the rook side that has no one on.
I all but stopped going in there. Most of the folks in there do not care about the game. They are in there to farm perks. Many will tell you just that.
MW used to have 60 people in it. It has the best planeset in the game. (IMHO) RIP MW.
The MW was like that 2 and 3 years ago, so whats new?