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Title: world of tanks
Post by: sandflea on August 28, 2012, 08:50:16 AM
this game caught my eye there are some awesome tanks   the graphics are phenomenal the terrain's are UN believable
its not my intention to lead players away from aces instead i want people to compel Htc employees to lookin to some of the games tanks and arenas
 ava isn't being used no re is ww1 arena and i would like to see a tanks only arena which i know would be a hit with AH players its just a thought
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Lusche on August 28, 2012, 09:09:59 AM
ava isn't being used no re is ww1 arena


You mean you aren't using them...
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Nathan60 on August 28, 2012, 09:12:00 AM
ava isn't being used no re is ww1 arena and i would like to see a tanks only arena which i know would be a hit with AH players its just a thought

Have you been talking to Midsy? Wanna tank only arena  make a custom one and advertise it.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Shuffler on August 28, 2012, 09:30:53 AM
this game caught my eye there are some awesome tanks   the graphics are phenomenal the terrain's are UN believable
its not my intention to lead players away from aces instead i want people to compel Htc employees to lookin to some of the games tanks and arenas
 ava isn't being used no re is ww1 arena and i would like to see a tanks only arena which i know would be a hit with AH players its just a thought

Don't worry... you won't.  Most folks here are not into arcade gaming that much.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: jimson on August 28, 2012, 10:45:04 AM
AvA does get used, albeit not at the level of the MA. We have a setup starting next week that includes a Tuesday night battle and you can definitely grab a tank and participate.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,338427.0.html
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Eric19 on August 28, 2012, 03:58:05 PM
Don't worry... you won't.  Most folks here are not into arcade gaming that much.
shuffler the only arcade thing about it is using your mouse and pointing and clicking on tanks and hoping you hit them
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Nathan60 on August 28, 2012, 04:14:05 PM
shuffler the only arcade thing about it is using your mouse and pointing and clicking on tanks and hoping you hit them

besides seeing through buildings and trees  and  fighting a t-62 with NOS  when your in a M4 yeah thats not arcaddey atall.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 28, 2012, 04:16:42 PM
shuffler the only arcade thing about it is using your mouse and pointing and clicking on tanks and hoping you hit them

Actually there is a lot of "arcade" things in WoT, like the physics that the whole game is wrapped in.  Even the developers fully acknowledge that their game isn't a "sim" by any stretch of the imagination, even going as far as releasing videos making fun of people thinking WoT is any kind of sim.

ack-ack
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Frod on August 28, 2012, 05:58:33 PM
5 minute tard run in a pinball machine.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: ToeTag on August 28, 2012, 06:49:55 PM
WOT offers a better sense of immersion through realistic graphics.  It is only a first person shooter in a tank.  It does get the heart racing and well this game not so much as it is spawn, shoot then die / camp.  Would be nice to get a slight rush to this game through gv's. A new strategy role or objective for gv's would be really nice.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Wildcat1 on August 28, 2012, 06:56:51 PM
WOT offers a better sense of immersion through realistic graphics.  It is only a first person shooter in a tank.  It does get the heart racing and well this game not so much as it is spawn, shoot then die / camp.  Would be nice to get a slight rush to this game through gv's. A new strategy role or objective for gv's would be really nice.

you missed out! the Winter Sky, Death Ground scenario in April/May had the most intense tank battle i've ever experienced in frame 3. tanks by the dozens were running almost parralel to each other along a river, until we reached a massive city strat, launching some very fast-paced urban combat. this game has some great moments
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: MarineUS on August 28, 2012, 07:20:15 PM
this game has some great moments
That normally take half an hour to get to and therein lies a problem.

It's actually why I stopped GVing all together. I was either in a spawn camped position, driving half my time there only to get killed by a camper etc.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: sandflea on August 29, 2012, 03:16:00 PM
this game caught my eye there are some awesome tanks   the graphics are phenomenal the terrain's are UN believable
its not my intention to lead players away from aces instead i want people to compel THC employees to lookin to some of the games tanks and arenas
 Ava isn't being used no re is WW1 arena and i would like to see a tanks only arena which i know would be a hit with AH players its just a thought
my only point is that the terrains  and the tanks alone the inside of the tanks would have to be done up by Htc I'm not saying set it up like they have it in wot  just saying look at the arenas texture
and the tanks not the game play
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Slate on August 29, 2012, 03:31:38 PM
  In many games you are in a closed room. Like Call of Duty and others you have a limited area to operate. That makes rendering terrain using much less resources. In AH the arena is hundreds of miles across. You could drive your GV forever without hitting a border. Hundreds of players are in your "room" and placed in space along with all the terrain.

           (http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg200/mmaclenn/apples_oranges.jpg)
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: TomD on August 29, 2012, 04:44:29 PM
More concerning than WOT is War Thunder, which is now in beta. I just came to this sim about a year ago from after a decade+ of IL2. While AH may not be the sexiest gal in the room, it works, and is more reliable than many others and is always there. I'm not moving again.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Shuffler on August 29, 2012, 04:46:06 PM
shuffler the only arcade thing about it is using your mouse and pointing and clicking on tanks and hoping you hit them

 :rofl
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Shuffler on August 29, 2012, 04:48:04 PM
you missed out! the Winter Sky, Death Ground scenario in April/May had the most intense tank battle i've ever experienced in frame 3. tanks by the dozens were running almost parralel to each other along a river, until we reached a massive city strat, launching some very fast-paced urban combat. this game has some great moments

...and hardly no GV'ers participated.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Shuffler on August 29, 2012, 04:49:05 PM
my only point is that the terrains  and the tanks alone the inside of the tanks would have to be done up by Htc I'm not saying set it up like they have it in wot  just saying look at the arenas texture
and the tanks not the game play

Aces HIGH.... planes are first :)
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: phatzo on August 29, 2012, 05:35:39 PM
Aces HIGH.... planes are first :)

shuffler is 100% correct, GVing is just a distraction. The ground is something to crash into IMHO.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on August 31, 2012, 07:49:31 PM
shuffler the only arcade thing about it is using your mouse and pointing and clicking on tanks and hoping you hit them

WoT is 95% arcade and 3% sim. The other 2% ............................. ..
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Belial on August 31, 2012, 08:01:43 PM
Wot is alot more fun then aces high on the ground, I miss one shotting people left and right but it's instant action.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: crazyivan on August 31, 2012, 10:43:32 PM
Wot is alot more fun then aces high on the ground, I miss one shotting people left and right but it's instant action.
Well the tank selection is larger than AH but you have't grind  hours and, *yawn* and hours to ever get to use the higher tiers.

I like playing both games, and yes I just said games. Each have something to them that I enjoy, and something i dislike.

WoT positives: Equal tank numbers at start of battle. Destroyable terrain objects. Maps that swtich with every new battle.
(played mech warrior) So i like the upgrades to tanks. Messing around with comrades in tank companies. And i thought i was drunk! :devil

oh and its free, but takes longer to upgrade, and other crap you cant do.

Negatives: Tanks that disapear right infront of you and kill you. Shooting through buildings. Arcadey tanks sights. Tier tree that makes up the random battles. :mad: having to use the keyboard controls. Aim bot Arty.

Aces Low
Positives: Defending a base from a large scaled attack. Alittle spawn camping can be fun. Braking spawn camps.PT boat wars very funny.
Attacking a V-base when someones home. (Map ndisles)? one with 3 spawns and town in the middle.

Negatives:(guilty of this) bomb****ing. Long arse gv spawns drives. too much spawn camping, it get's boring to me after shooting the same guy 30 times as he spawns in. Others live for the spawn camp. Talking crap on 200 when spawncamping. Leave 200 to the flyboys. :D Trees and mounds flipping tanks. :rolleyes:Having to now use the keyboard/stick mapping. <-- liked the old style.

Anyways feel free to add.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: titanic3 on August 31, 2012, 11:11:35 PM
Grind is ridiculously long to any tier 10 (unless you pay). Some tanks are just complete and utter crap that you have to play through. It's fun if you do one or two battles a day, but after that, it gets boring really quick. But then at that rate, it would take a year just to finish one Tier 10 line. Casual gamers are pretty much boned. Unless you somehow enjoy driving tractors with cannons (literally). I'm just glad a friend let me use his account that had high tier tanks and a premium tank to make money. Otherwise, I don't see how anyone can endure the grind that this game requires.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: guncrasher on September 01, 2012, 12:51:40 AM
wot just lowered their prices.  here's the latest sales for september.

Super Pershing Package "Tank & Garage Slot" for USD 33.49

    Tank: Super Pershing
    Garage Slot

Dicker Max Package "Tank, Garage Slot, Crew" for USD 21.29

    Tank: Dicker Max
    Garage Slot
    Five 100% crew members for Dicker Max

 8.8 cm Pak 43 JagdTiger Package "Tank & Garage Slot" for USD 44.49

    Tank: 8.8 cm Pak 43
    Garage Slot

One Year Premium Package "Premium Account" for USD 95.29

     One year Premium Time

Six Month Premium Package "Premium Account" for USD 56.79

    Six months Premium Time

Additionally, from Augst 31st, 2011 at 23:00 PDT until September 14th at 23:00 PDT you will see the following available in the Gift Shop:
IS-6 Package "Tank, Garage Slot, Gold, Consumables for USD 58.99

    Tank: IS-6
    Garage Slot
    Gold: 2000
    Large Repair Kits: x14
    Extra Rations: x14

M22 Locust Package "Tank, Garage Slot, Consumables, Premium Account for USD 12.49

    Tank: M22 Locust
    Garage Slot
    Large Repair Kit: x6
    Automatic Fire Extinguisher: x6
    Premium Account: 7 days

Gold & Premium Package "Gold & Premium Account" for USD 15.99

    2000
    7 days Premium Time


see anybody can play it :).


semp
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: MarineUS on September 01, 2012, 04:23:11 AM
Those aren't "lowered" prices....those are package deals. SMH. They change out the packages every month, and you don't have to pay for those to play.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: 321BAR on September 01, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
That normally take half an hour to get to and therein lies a problem.

It's actually why I stopped GVing all together. I was either in a spawn camped position, driving half my time there only to get killed by a camper etc.
then i must say grow some patience because WSDG was the most fun in a GV ive ever had. commanding the Panzer Lehr for that scenario was more of an honor to work with the players i did than i got killz on shermans :lol though the city fight was damn just plain awesome in general :aok
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: TOMCAT21 on September 02, 2012, 07:17:32 AM
WoT is good gv wise...the grind is not so bad and the battles are more intense... no spawn camping there... it is a hit or miss for some....IMO to each their own, I suppose...
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Spikes on September 02, 2012, 08:58:21 AM
It seems all the people who can't find fun in the game are the first to complain.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: guncrasher on September 02, 2012, 01:38:49 PM
WoT is good gv wise...the grind is not so bad and the battles are more intense... no spawn camping there... it is a hit or miss for some....IMO to each their own, I suppose...

oh man there's a lot of spawn camping in wot.  that along with tanks that disappear 50 yards in front of you.  it's gamey but it's fun.  different that aces high.



semp
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: titanic3 on September 02, 2012, 01:45:04 PM
It seems all the people who can't find fun in the game are the first to complain.

It's fun if you can last through the grind to the T9 or T10 tanks. Yes, there are some low tier tanks that are fun (Stug, Kv-1, Easy8) but unless you want to drive those tanks forever, youre gonna have to put up with the crappy tanks in a tech tree. It's easily fun if you don't have to worry about getting into a match where you can't even damage a tank on the other side, or where you don't have to worry about going bankrupt when you play a high tier tank.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Treize69 on September 02, 2012, 03:49:54 PM
Get into the arcade vs. sim argument all you want, there's one key point that has me playing WoT and not AH for the past year and a half- one is free and requires only a mouse and keyboard to play, the other is $14.95 per month and can't really be played properly without at least a joystick, preferably with a throttle and rudder pedals, and a mic/headset combo. With the financial situation my wife and I have been in for the past two years, that's a BIG selling point for one, and turnoff for the other.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Shuffler on September 02, 2012, 04:09:33 PM
Once you get past the initial cost of marbles or dice..... those games are free too.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Masherbrum on September 02, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
It seems all the people who can't find fun in the game are the first to complain.

That is exactly what it boils down to Spikes.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: guncrasher on September 02, 2012, 07:39:17 PM
Get into the arcade vs. sim argument all you want, there's one key point that has me playing WoT and not AH for the past year and a half- one is free and requires only a mouse and keyboard to play, the other is $14.95 per month and can't really be played properly without at least a joystick, preferably with a throttle and rudder pedals, and a mic/headset combo. With the financial situation my wife and I have been in for the past two years, that's a BIG selling point for one, and turnoff for the other.

in your case the problem is money, not what is required to play.  I play both games and I pay for both games, at least for now.  wot is not really free it depends on lots of us who pay in order for those of you who dont.  if the players who pay for premium accounts goes down then so will the game.




semp
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Treize69 on September 02, 2012, 07:44:31 PM
I've bought gold when I could afford it, but the simple fact is that for a year and a half of playing WoT, I've spent less in fees and peripherals than I would have to for about six months of AH. And spent a lot less time doing nothing in the bit of free time I've had to devote to it.

Do I think WoT is a great game- no, in fact I don't like their system at all. I was in the Alpha testing for World of Warplanes and found it so moronic that I asked them to take me out of the program after about two months. But for what it is (an FPS with tanks), it's fun. It's also much more user friendly, moddable, and believe it or not has a lot less annoying kids in the summer and wannabe history 'experts' the rest of the year. It's just a game, and we all know it.

I'm also eagerly looking forward to MW:O for the same reasons- it costs nothing to get started, and I can spend money here and there on it if I want to, not because I have to for the simple privilege of logging in.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Belial on September 03, 2012, 02:15:22 AM
It's fun if you can last through the grind to the T9 or T10 tanks. Yes, there are some low tier tanks that are fun (Stug, Kv-1, Easy8) but unless you want to drive those tanks forever, youre gonna have to put up with the crappy tanks in a tech tree. It's easily fun if you don't have to worry about getting into a match where you can't even damage a tank on the other side, or where you don't have to worry about going bankrupt when you play a high tier tank.


I'm guessing you are a bad player, a good player averages 900+ XP a battle...now it depends on the line but you can grind some t10's very fast.

For instance I may be grinding from a e50 to a e50m and i may have 100 battles with 145,000 xp accumulated, and only average 900 xp but on your decent wins you make 1,200 to 2,000 XP so it makes up for the losses.
Thing's deff slow down after t8 but I can usually grind 2 t10's in a month or less just switching back and forth between 2 lines.

But yes for the "average" player who only makes 400xp per battle it would take forever.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: MarineUS on September 03, 2012, 02:29:31 AM
Heck the smaller tanks are more fun than the higher tiers. I have I think four(?) tier ten heavies. The only ones I don't have yet are the Maus and AMX 50B. I hate playing all of them (Except my T110E5) because people are afraid to get shot, the amount of high tier arty (not arty in general), and the people complaining.

And people saying "Tanks you can't even hurt." - You can't be the number one tank on the field ALL the time. Not to mention you only fight two tiers higher than your tank now (except scouts and arty) which is well within' ANY tanks ability to hurt each other. I can take a tier five medium and spank a tier seven heavy all day. You can't just post up 300m out and try to go head to head. You'll lose and die just like the M4 drivers who thought they could in WWII before they learned how to fight Tigers.

Ones free, quick battles, easy grind.
One cost money, takes forever to get to most fights, spawn camping if you're not driving.


----

BTW: The tanks disappear because the maps are small. They're small to make the game quick. If everyone could see all across the map, then folks with low end PC's would be boned because of render distance and tanks with higher accuracy would dominate the battle field because they would pick the enemy off before they got close.

If you're having a hard time killing tanks in WoT, you need to look at the other fourteen people on your team and see if you can find another target. If you can't, work with what you've got and get to your opponent's flank.

 :joystick:
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: TOMCAT21 on September 03, 2012, 07:54:00 AM
Statistics lie .....boils down to if someone is having fun playing a game....playing field is a lot more even in WOT, IMO.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: titanic3 on September 03, 2012, 09:39:07 AM

I'm guessing you are a bad player, a good player averages 900+ XP a battle...now it depends on the line but you can grind some t10's very fast.

For instance I may be grinding from a e50 to a e50m and i may have 100 battles with 145,000 xp accumulated, and only average 900 xp but on your decent wins you make 1,200 to 2,000 XP so it makes up for the losses.
Thing's deff slow down after t8 but I can usually grind 2 t10's in a month or less just switching back and forth between 2 lines.

But yes for the "average" player who only makes 400xp per battle it would take forever.

Sorry I don't devote my entire time into WoT? I play one match a day or two if I'm bored with a IS-4 and a KV-5 to make up the credit losses if I lose with the IS-4. You want to see a perfect balance between fun, casual, grind, and competitive gameplay? Try out League of Legends. Probably the most successful MMO in the market right now. There's grind, but only just, so that newbies get used to the game while playing with people similar to their skill level. It takes maybe 1 week to get to the maximum level if you play 5 matches a day. Yet it takes years to become a pro.

IMO, give the player the tools they need to play either instantly (like AH) or gradually but not forever (League of Legends). WoT forces you to grind 3(!!) skill sets (XP, credits, and crew experience) in order to level the playing field. The balance (match making) is terrible at some tiers (wtf is a stock Hetzer supposed to do against a T29?) and it forces you to either sit through hours of gameplay in a tank you hate in order to advance to the next one, or pay with money to get a good premium tank and use that to, (hey, what do you know?) GRIND for the tank of your choice.

Now, once you reach a high tier game, you finally enjoy the game the way it should be. Tank battles where every opponent has a weakness and strength (Hetzer vs T29 is just pure "weak" vs "strong", or a MS-1 nearly one shotting tier 1 tanks). And where it finally takes skill to win instead of whatever team has the biggest baddest tank. (ex: on the loading screen it might look like a equal match up, then you realize one team has stock tanks and the other has fully decked out tanks).
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Spikes on September 03, 2012, 09:53:25 AM
If you face a T29 in a Hetzer you are doing it wrong.

Don't need a high tier tank to have fun. I have fun in all of my tanks from tier 1 to 10.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Masherbrum on September 03, 2012, 10:36:58 AM
Sorry I don't devote my entire time into WoT? I play one match a day or two if I'm bored with a IS-4 and a KV-5 to make up the credit losses if I lose with the IS-4. You want to see a perfect balance between fun, casual, grind, and competitive gameplay? Try out League of Legends. Probably the most successful MMO in the market right now. There's grind, but only just, so that newbies get used to the game while playing with people similar to their skill level. It takes maybe 1 week to get to the maximum level if you play 5 matches a day. Yet it takes years to become a pro.

IMO, give the player the tools they need to play either instantly (like AH) or gradually but not forever (League of Legends). WoT forces you to grind 3(!!) skill sets (XP, credits, and crew experience) in order to level the playing field. The balance (match making) is terrible at some tiers (wtf is a stock Hetzer supposed to do against a T29?) and it forces you to either sit through hours of gameplay in a tank you hate in order to advance to the next one, or pay with money to get a good premium tank and use that to, (hey, what do you know?) GRIND for the tank of your choice.

Now, once you reach a high tier game, you finally enjoy the game the way it should be. Tank battles where every opponent has a weakness and strength (Hetzer vs T29 is just pure "weak" vs "strong", or a MS-1 nearly one shotting tier 1 tanks). And where it finally takes skill to win instead of whatever team has the biggest baddest tank. (ex: on the loading screen it might look like a equal match up, then you realize one team has stock tanks and the other has fully decked out tanks).

Some of you, including yourself, do not understand the locations that you should be trying to focus on.  Also, no one is "forcing" you to do anything in WoT.   My favorite to play for a while was the T-43.   I killed at least 5 IS-4's by myself because I know how to move, where to shoot and created damage.   As long you are damaging opposing tanks, you are achieving the goal.   If you don't, you relegate yourself to whining about "the spotting system, match maker, and 10's of other excuses that are conjured up".   All you need to do is download and install XVM and you see how fair the matchmaker is.   It comes down to flanking, working those flanks and the skills utilized by 15 players on each side.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Belial on September 03, 2012, 11:11:41 AM
Well you have a KV5 which means you like it enough to drop 33$ on it you myswell try to be good lol.  Yes MM can dump alot of crap on you but having a solid platoon helps alot, even though i rarely do.
Playing solo i've managed to get to 56% wins which is harder than it seems lol.

I am in the top 3% on WOT but it definitely helps to enjoy the game if you have 3 unicums platooned together to carry the bad teams.

If you want to win you had better be killing 4 and damaging 10 and then cap or defend when needed or you won't win alone.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: titanic3 on September 03, 2012, 11:21:52 AM
And the chances of having 14 players with the same uber skill set as you?

If you face a T29 in a Hetzer you are doing it wrong.

Don't need a high tier tank to have fun. I have fun in all of my tanks from tier 1 to 10.

So pressing the Play button is making me a bad player?  :headscratch:

Unfortunately, I don't have mind control and I can't tell the heavies on my team to sit back and let the meds and lights scout. I can't tell our arty to focus on theirs and I can't tell our light tanks to stop doing a banzai charge instead of spotting and retreating. And eventually, I can't tell their T29 to stop shooting my face off if I'm playing a Hetzer because everyone on my team died.

You hit Tier 10 and every tank is an equal match to you. If I couldn't penetrate another tank, it's because of skill, whether it's his skill by angling his tank or it's my skill penetrating/not penetrating the other tank. When my Hetzer does 2% damage to a heavy tank and he blows me to pieces in two shots, that's not skill. That's just the other guy having a bigger and better tank. And before some one yells out (flank it!), how the hell am I going to do that while crawling at 25km/h? Assuming there's no slope.

I didn't say low tier tanks can't be fun (I already mentioned some, Stug, Easy 8, KV-1, Marder). But how many more tanks are just completely boinked because theyre pretty much dead weight (M3 Lee, Hetzer)?

Well you have a KV5 which means you like it enough to drop 33$ on it you myswell try to be good lol.  Yes MM can dump alot of crap on you but having a solid platoon helps alot, even though i rarely do.
Playing solo i've managed to get to 56% wins which is harder than it seems lol.

I am in the top 3% on WOT but it definitely helps to enjoy the game if you have 3 unicums platooned together to carry the bad teams.

If you want to win you had better be killing 4 and damaging 10 and then cap or defend when needed or you won't win alone.

This was not my account originally, a friend gave it to me after he quit. I played during the beta, where you didn't have to worry about grinding because everyone was given premium status. I did the German TD line and reached the Jagdpanzer IV before beta ended, with the same play schedule I have now, only one or two games a day for 3-4 months. If it wasn't for the premium status, it would've taken me twice as long.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Belial on September 03, 2012, 11:57:16 AM
If your in a hetzer vs a t29...don't go after the t29 light the t29 up for someone else or work your way toward softer targets like arty...or keep t29 chasing you so your team can shoot it.

Do crappy matches happen? yes they do but hetzer vs t29 is much less common than hetzer vs leopard etc
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: titanic3 on September 03, 2012, 12:32:17 PM
If your in a hetzer vs a t29...don't go after the t29 light the t29 up for someone else or work your way toward softer targets like arty...or keep t29 chasing you so your team can shoot it.

Do crappy matches happen? yes they do but hetzer vs t29 is much less common than hetzer vs leopard etc

Lemme get right on that at 25 km/h  :). Oh, and don't worry, it's not like they don't have tanks protecting arty or anything.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Spikes on September 03, 2012, 01:27:28 PM
I loved the Hetzer when I got it upgraded. M3 is pretty BA too once you get the hang of it.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: crazyivan on September 03, 2012, 05:54:26 PM
And the chances of having 14 players with the same uber skill set as you?

We're amongst greatness Titian. :D I'am not worthy!

I'm in the tier6's except for a gift tank. I'm there usually when aceshigh goes on snooze mode to have fun. Uber elite I am not 3% whaaa?

BTW. I play for fun and understand the concept not seeing all the tanks on small maps. Perhaps my videocard/lag has something to do with a tank I'm fighting disapperaing right infront of me, but I digress.

Having fun thats what I'm ingame for usually with beer in hand.
~Crazy~
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: MarineUS on September 03, 2012, 07:04:00 PM


If I couldn't penetrate another tank, it's because of skill, whether it's his skill by angling his tank or it's my skill penetrating/not penetrating the other tank. When my Hetzer does 2% damage to a heavy tank and he blows me to pieces in two shots, that's not skill.
If you can't pen, sit behind the front lines, use HE and if your gun is accurate enough, aim for hatches.

If you're getting spotted in a hetzer, you're doing it wrong. I bet you sit IN a bush instead of behind it don't you?


Tip: Sitting IN a bush gives you ZERO camo increase. You need to be about 10m BEHIND the bush and fully concealed. Hold down your right mouse, and move your camera view so that you're looking in the direction your enemies would be looking. If the white outline of your tank is complete (A solid line) you have a camo increase from that angle.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Anodizer on September 03, 2012, 08:55:43 PM
I dumbed down all the effects..  Game play is much better..  Those who still play this game, I suggest you do the same.. 
You'll have an advantage over people who would rather have eye candy....

http://www.worldoftanksguide.com/guide-game-settings.shtml (http://www.worldoftanksguide.com/guide-game-settings.shtml)

Things like disabling vibration in sniper mode is so handy.. 
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: guncrasher on September 03, 2012, 09:15:58 PM

I'm guessing you are a bad player, a good player averages 900+ XP a battle...now it depends on the line but you can grind some t10's very fast.

For instance I may be grinding from a e50 to a e50m and i may have 100 battles with 145,000 xp accumulated, and only average 900 xp but on your decent wins you make 1,200 to 2,000 XP so it makes up for the losses.
Thing's deff slow down after t8 but I can usually grind 2 t10's in a month or less just switching back and forth between 2 lines.

But yes for the "average" player who only makes 400xp per battle it would take forever.

there's no way you can average 900 xp with a tier 2 or 3.  unless you just play the daily double.  the higher the tank the higher the xp.  but the same goes the other way.  the lower the tank the lower the xp.


semp
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: 321BAR on September 03, 2012, 10:14:30 PM
there's no way you can average 900 xp with a tier 2 or 3.  unless you just play the daily double.  the higher the tank the higher the xp.  but the same goes the other way.  the lower the tank the lower the xp.


semp
900xp isnt that hard to get in lower tiers. you just need to get aggressive as hell to pull it off
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: titanic3 on September 03, 2012, 10:57:29 PM
If you can't pen, sit behind the front lines, use HE and if your gun is accurate enough, aim for hatches.

If you're getting spotted in a hetzer, you're doing it wrong. I bet you sit IN a bush instead of behind it don't you?


Tip: Sitting IN a bush gives you ZERO camo increase. You need to be about 10m BEHIND the bush and fully concealed. Hold down your right mouse, and move your camera view so that you're looking in the direction your enemies would be looking. If the white outline of your tank is complete (A solid line) you have a camo increase from that angle.

Oh of course, I mean, I only played since beta, I must've missed that tip after 1 year or so (almost a year?) of game play. Silly me. I'll take your advice oh God of Tanks. Maybe then my teammates will get 1000hp shields and an aim bot so I'll never be the last one standing! Like...forever! I didn't realize I could sit in my base far away in a Hetzer with 105mm AND hit that little hatch on that T29! Like zOMG! I'm gonna be a like a star in WoT now! Like...uh totally!

Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: MarineUS on September 04, 2012, 12:31:09 AM
there's no way you can average 900 xp with a tier 2 or 3.  unless you just play the daily double.  the higher the tank the higher the xp.  but the same goes the other way.  the lower the tank the lower the xp.


semp
The double doesn't count towards you avg XP. It takes the base value only.

900xp isnt that hard to get in lower tiers. you just need to get aggressive as hell to pull it off
I beg to differ. Due to the low amount of damage one can dish and receive; reaching 900 AVERAGE XP in low tiers is more than difficult.

Oh of course, I mean, I only played since beta, I must've missed that tip after 1 year or so (almost a year?) of game play. Silly me. I'll take your advice oh God of Tanks. Maybe then my teammates will get 1000hp shields and an aim bot so I'll never be the last one standing! Like...forever! I didn't realize I could sit in my base far away in a Hetzer with 105mm AND hit that little hatch on that T29! Like zOMG! I'm gonna be a like a star in WoT now! Like...uh totally!


Playing for any length of time doesn't make you good or informed about the game. Hell I'm a perfect example. I've been playing Aces High since around late 2001 (another name) and I STILL suck in fighters. I couldn't fight my way out of a wet paper bag in AH.

I never claimed to be "God of Tanks", nor do I deserve the title. I'm good but I'm not the number one tank player.

You can not pick your team mates, but you can not blame them for every loss either. Bad teams come and go. (Aim bot? Uh...you do know that WoT has an "auto-aim" function right?).

I never said sit at base, just behind the front lines (50-90m) works well. TD's are meant to sit in the back. If you have a problem with that, don't play TD's. It's like saying you hate flying bombers in AH because they're so slow and can't out turn a spit fire. They just aren't built for it.


Oh golly gee, I better stop using the logic here.  :rolleyes:

I dumbed down all the effects..  Game play is much better..  Those who still play this game, I suggest you do the same..  
You'll have an advantage over people who would rather have eye candy....

http://www.worldoftanksguide.com/guide-game-settings.shtml (http://www.worldoftanksguide.com/guide-game-settings.shtml)

Things like disabling vibration in sniper mode is so handy..  

I use the "vibration". I don't want it THAT arcade-like lol.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Spikes on September 04, 2012, 09:29:24 AM
Oh of course, I mean, I only played since beta, I must've missed that tip after 1 year or so (almost a year?) of game play. Silly me. I'll take your advice oh God of Tanks. Maybe then my teammates will get 1000hp shields and an aim bot so I'll never be the last one standing! Like...forever! I didn't realize I could sit in my base far away in a Hetzer with 105mm AND hit that little hatch on that T29! Like zOMG! I'm gonna be a like a star in WoT now! Like...uh totally!


Well you say your having all of these problems...then you say you know everything we tell you...so what is the issue?
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: titanic3 on September 04, 2012, 10:16:11 AM

Playing for any length of time doesn't make you good or informed about the game. Hell I'm a perfect example. I've been playing Aces High since around late 2001 (another name) and I STILL suck in fighters. I couldn't fight my way out of a wet paper bag in AH.

I never claimed to be "God of Tanks", nor do I deserve the title. I'm good but I'm not the number one tank player.

You can not pick your team mates, but you can not blame them for every loss either. Bad teams come and go. (Aim bot? Uh...you do know that WoT has an "auto-aim" function right?).

I never said sit at base, just behind the front lines (50-90m) works well. TD's are meant to sit in the back. If you have a problem with that, don't play TD's. It's like saying you hate flying bombers in AH because they're so slow and can't out turn a spit fire. They just aren't built for it.


Oh golly gee, I better stop using the logic here.  :rolleyes:


And it's like you're saying a P40C is going to kill a 109K4. Can it happen? Yea. Can a Hetzer kill a T29? Yea. But what are the chances of that happening? Your only chance of even damaging a T29 or any similar tank is with the 105mm's HE or getting behind at near point blank with an AP from the 75mm. The second option is near impossible because you'l lget spotted and whacked in two shots. The first option does what? 5-10% of a T29's HP max assuming it's a decent shot? Which is again, rather hard when you realize it's a short barreled gun with poor accuracy.

Well you say your having all of these problems...then you say you know everything we tell you...so what is the issue?

So far you've told me to:
Sit behind the bush (done)
Stay behind the front lines (done)
Use HE (done)
Aim for the hatch (done)

The issue is that you guys think a Hetzer or any other crappy tank is a fair match in a game where it places you in opposing team with a T29, Tiger, or whatever. Or a M3 Lee. Or a Su-76. Face it, WoT is not a balanced game until you reach Tier 10 or only in a handful of exceptions. And you fanboys think I'm "hating" this game, I'm not. I play it almost every day, it's fun and it does what it's designed to do, EXCEPT ONLY AT THE VERY HIGH TIERS. Winning a low tier game is 99% luck you'll get matched with decent tanks on your team and 1% skill.

Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Belial on September 04, 2012, 02:39:27 PM
Here is hammer91's profile the #1 player on NA server

http://worldoftanks.com/community/accounts/1000146207-hammer91/

You will notice he has more matches in a VK3601 than any other tank...and that is t6...he wins with it ALOT

His Hetzer stats Hetzer    63 played     46 won   73% wins?

He wins ALOT with every tank hes played because hes good.

Find a way to be effective NO matter the tank or matchup, the greater the odds the greater the reward in XP and credits

Sounds like you need a platoon bad/ or a tissue
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Spikes on September 04, 2012, 02:45:26 PM
So far you've told me to:
Sit behind the bush (done)
Stay behind the front lines (done)
Use HE (done)
Aim for the hatch (done)

The issue is that you guys think a Hetzer or any other crappy tank is a fair match in a game where it places you in opposing team with a T29, Tiger, or whatever. Or a M3 Lee. Or a Su-76. Face it, WoT is not a balanced game until you reach Tier 10 or only in a handful of exceptions. And you fanboys think I'm "hating" this game, I'm not. I play it almost every day, it's fun and it does what it's designed to do, EXCEPT ONLY AT THE VERY HIGH TIERS. Winning a low tier game is 99% luck you'll get matched with decent tanks on your team and 1% skill.


Well in all honesty, you being on the bottom of the list are not supposed to be facing the top tank. That is where a lot of complaints come from this game. I see all the time "What am I supposed to do in this match" and "How am I supposed to kill so and so?" Well you don't...you kill what you're matched with. If everyone kills what they are matched with , you win. A T-29 is nothing without the other 14 tanks around him. Kill the smaller stuff, doing this helps your tier 7 kill their tier 7. Yes you get a lot of non team players who don't know what they are doing...but what game doesn't have that? There is nothing you can do about it but try to play better. I have had plenty of games where I have been the last tank left vs 4+ enemies and ended up winning.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Grayeagle on September 04, 2012, 03:40:57 PM
Yassir .. the whole idea is to be as effective as you can with what you have.

Even in a tier 10 .. you know arty is gonna be on you the moment you are spotted.
Invariably you will have every other higher tier tank on the other team gang bang you if they have half a chance.

I still enjoy runnin my E100.
Still.

It's fun.
I have 80+ percent hit ratio in it.
I use the big gun.. slow as molasses to load but when it hits ..it hits HARD.
I usually use gold rounds in it.
I have had rounds where I never got to fire a single round.
Balances with the ones where I come up on their flank and totally ream 5 of their guys
because they just did not see me until that huge 152mm ripped through them.

When I run a tier 10 I usually do not press for a kill shot
. . if I can tear them up bad I will let a team mate finish him while I work the next guy.
It's all about being effective.

I have found if you hook up with one or two others on your team
you can be *very* effective.
Even if you just tag along and flank their targets while they keep em busy.

-Frank aka GE
 -just sayin (tm Pasha)
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: guncrasher on September 04, 2012, 05:50:36 PM
Here is hammer91's profile the #1 player on NA server

http://worldoftanks.com/community/accounts/1000146207-hammer91/

You will notice he has more matches in a VK3601 than any other tank...and that is t6...he wins with it ALOT

His Hetzer stats Hetzer    63 played     46 won   73% wins?

He wins ALOT with every tank hes played because hes good.

Find a way to be effective NO matter the tank or matchup, the greater the odds the greater the reward in XP and credits

Sounds like you need a platoon bad/ or a tissue

1 guy alone will not win a match if he has 14 guys who cant play.  however bring a couple of friends and your chances of wining will increase.  as all it takes is 1 shot from you and 2 friends to basically kill most tanks in wot.


semp
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: crazyivan on September 04, 2012, 06:21:38 PM
Could've used you last night Semp, poor bigcet had to put up with my drunkarse. :D We did share a laugh when t-50 owned my stugg gah!

I should've yelled "turn the damn Carrier!" :D

PS.Belial keep the tissue you need it more bud. :uhoh
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Belial on September 04, 2012, 08:55:50 PM
Could've used you last night Semp, poor bigcet had to put up with my drunkarse. :D We did share a laugh when t-50 owned my stugg gah!

I should've yelled "turn the damn Carrier!" :D

PS.Belial keep the tissue you need it more bud. :uhoh


For? I wasn't the one complaining

Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: MrMeanie on September 04, 2012, 09:22:37 PM

For? I wasn't the one complaining



Figures you be playing world of tank's, Pew pew boom.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Belial on September 04, 2012, 09:35:31 PM
haha whats up meanie, yea rapin face in WOT dumb pubs everywhere
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: guncrasher on September 04, 2012, 09:40:41 PM
Could've used you last night Semp, poor bigcet had to put up with my drunkarse. :D We did share a laugh when t-50 owned my stugg gah!

I should've yelled "turn the damn Carrier!" :D

PS.Belial keep the tissue you need it more bud. :uhoh

you should have been on earlier, big, notch and me kicked azz, till my gf made me log off to go cook labor day food.  damn women cant live with them only need them at night :).


semp
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: MrMeanie on September 04, 2012, 11:10:37 PM
haha whats up meanie, yea rapin face in WOT dumb pubs everywhere

if you see a Meanie[RTR] I'll be face raping you.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: Belial on September 05, 2012, 03:55:25 PM
if you see a Meanie[RTR] I'll be face raping you.

yea OK haha i'll add you to my contacts we can platoon...I can get you some wins for a change  :neener:
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: MrMeanie on September 06, 2012, 02:50:05 AM
yea OK haha i'll add you to my contacts we can platoon...I can get you some wins for a change  :neener:

Send me a msg when you are on, Can run up to tier 9.
Title: Re: world of tanks
Post by: tassos on September 06, 2012, 02:55:55 PM
WOT=tassos