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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: smoe on August 24, 2013, 02:10:51 PM
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If you don't like people driving and talking on their cell phones. I have had a few encounters with drivers doing things like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8eZuxjo3iY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8eZuxjo3iY)
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:aok
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My fave part is that instead of just punching the guy, he spent the time to get just the phone.
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That should happen to every driver on the phone! I think the cell should be confiscated if you're caught using 1 while driving. They take your car away for racing or drinking they should take the phones too.
Police auctions would be a good source for cheap phones also...... :devil
:salute
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I did that one day on the way to work. A woman had been stopped by the police and she pulled in behind me just as I passed. A couple miles down the road I stop for a redlight and look back (I am a very defensive driver) and see the same gal headed right at me...last minute she looks up and slams the brakes on stopping within a couple feet of me. I get out and walk back so see her cellphone still in hand and flipped open. Her window was down, I said firmly "Give me the phone" and she handed it to me. I threw it into the ditch and told her to get her head out of her a*$ before she killed someone and walked away.
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:rofl thats hilarious :aok I used to drive a ford f450 box truck so I sat up quite a bit higher than cars, was sitting at a red light in traffic and the guy I was working with noticed the lady in front of us on her phone, so I beeped my horn. without hesitation she NEVER looked up from her phone just slammed on the gas right into the car in front of her. when she asked why I honked my horn I told her that I saw a friend of mine on the sidewalk and she should have been paying better attention to the road and not her dang phone.
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My sister, who isn't a good driver to begin with, is constantly on the phone. She can't go 5 minutes without calling or being called by someone. She refuses to use a hands free because it's "awkward". I've scolded her until I was blue in the face and now just refuse to ride if she's driving. Told her to call me after someone gets killed while she's on the phone.
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I witnessed a woman crashing with a scooter driving in a junction and she didn't lift off her phone even after the girl had hit her car.
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I threw it into the ditch and told her to get her head out of her a*$ before she killed someone and walked away.
Shouldn't you have driven away Colmbo, did you come back and pick your car up later? :old:
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awesome video :)
And WTG Colmbo :)
People that drive and talk on the phone I just do not understand.. missing a phone call won't maim or kill you or someone else.
..and ya
...our big blue Durango totalled a POS Camry due to the lady drivin the Camry *with a car full of friends* ..on the phone, ran a red light, t-boned the Big Blue Bus.
Frik-kin morons should not be allowed a license if seen doin it .. period.. obvious that phone is more important to them than life or limb.
-GE aka Frank
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Its the damn TxTing and driving that is flat stupid. I see that all the time.
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Its the damn TxTing and driving that is flat stupid. I see that all the time.
Thank god no one complains about changing music :banana:
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Shouldn't you have driven away Colmbo, did you come back and pick your car up later? :old:
No, he walked off into the sunset and his car appears in his driveway the next morning with the same mileage as the day he bought it. :banana:
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Shouldn't you have driven away Colmbo, did you come back and pick your car up later? :old:
Sheesh. Walked back to my vehicle and drove away. :lol
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Sheesh. Walked back to my vehicle and drove away. :lol
The sunset thing sounded more dramatic :old: :banana:
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In Australia you lose your license if you do it.
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In Australia you lose your license if you do it.
Quite right too. I look at the direction of car design with increasing dismay. Radar hazard warning systems :rolleyes: isn't that the driver's job?
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As a matter of fact, I just remembered that a teenage girl talking and making a right-hand turn at a busy street light intersection almost ran me over. I had the green pedestrian walk signal and the right-of-way. I was walking toward her and I know she saw me. She gunned her car and tried to drive in front of me then changed her mind and swerved behind me. This was the first and only time that I felt the need to punch a girl.
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My wife's sister has a Red Light Cam picture of her going thru a redlight. She is seen putting her make up on. :O :bhead
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Dont smoke, dont not wear a helmut, dont cross in the middle of the street, dont drink a coca-cola thats to large, dont talk on a cell phone..the list goes on. Cameras here, cameras there. How lucky we all are to have big Bro looking out for us.
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Dont smoke, dont not wear a helmut, dont cross in the middle of the street, dont drink a coca-cola thats to large, dont talk on a cell phone..the list goes on. Cameras here, cameras there. How lucky we all are to have big Bro looking out for us.
You can do what the hell you like Rich, as long as it doesn't effect other people, which talking and texting on your mobile phone while driving does / can.
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Dont smoke, dont not wear a helmut, dont cross in the middle of the street, dont drink a coca-cola thats to large, dont talk on a cell phone..the list goes on. Cameras here, cameras there. How lucky we all are to have big Bro looking out for us.
I kinda agree, if you want to damage yourself and stop peeing in the gene pool, by all means, feel free.
All except the being distracted while operating a motor vehicle part. Then you put more than yourself in danger...
May I present to you my Steve Austin hardware, courtesy of a distracted driver that was using her cell phone?
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/DansArmXRay.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/tymekeepyr/media/DansArmXRay.jpg.html)
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I have no problem driving and talking on a phone. Any more than the average ah player has while in a dog fight and talking on team speak. How ever I have been killed in AH several times TXTing and flying. Hell I've seen women in my rear view putting makeup on otw to work several times last weak. TxTing and driving should be treated as a DUI as far as I'm concerned.
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I have no problem driving and talking on a phone. Any more than the average ah player has while in a dog fight and talking on team speak. How ever I have been killed in AH several times TXTing and flying. Hell I've seen women in my rear view putting makeup on otw to work several times last weak. TxTing and driving should be treated as a DUI as far as I'm concerned.
That is when having a manual transmission becomes insanely amusing.
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Oh and on a side note their is a tow truck company that will stage flat bed tow trucks at a bar ( closing time) and charge three times the amount of a cab driver to take both him or her safely home and his or her vehicle. Y'all Might want to start that in your areas of the country.
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I have a problem with you driving and talking on a phone. Talking on the phone can be just as distracting as texting, and studies have shown that it may be just as dangerous as driving while impaired. Talking on the phone while driving is against the law here in CA. Unfortunately the law never seems to be enforced. It may be because the cops are to busy talking on their cell phones to notice.
Anything that distracts the operator of a motor vehicle should be discouraged, and I mean anything. Personally I don't care if you kill yourself, it's when you try to kill me that I get upset. So if you want go ahead and smoke those cigarettes, drink that super big gulp, and eat all the fried twinkies your heart desires, just not while you're driving.
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Ah so your a two hand on the wheel kinda guy.
The statement that talking and driving is just as distracting as TXTing and driving is pure BS. Hell rip your radio out of your Eco Hybrid bs car to while your at it. As far as your BS studies go its the same as all studies. You set out to make a point and find the best way to make it, then write a paper and call it a study that proves your BS point.
Oh and Implying that people are trying to kill you because they are talking on a phone is mental
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Ah so your a two hand on the wheel kinda guy.
The statement that talking and driving is just as distracting as TXTing and driving is pure BS. Hell rip your radio out of your Eco Hybrid bs car to while your at it. As far as your BS studies go its the same as all studies. You set out to make a point and find the best way to make it, then write a paper and call it a study that proves your BS point.
Oh and Implying that people are trying to kill you because they are talking on a phone is mental
I, personally, am not trying to presume that the woman (who admittedly was distracted by using her phone) that caused the accident that I was involved in requiring me to have my fancy hardware installed was trying to kill me.
But...
I am quite thankful she wasn't trying to do it intentionally, because she came pretty damn close without even trying...
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Summary from a friends facepuke post:
In some states, if you see someone being reckless, you can contact the driver's license authority. A web form or a letter, describing the incident, along with the date, time, specific place, make/model of the vehicle, and a description of the driver. They have been known to contact the driver in writing, and at times, have made requirements of them or require a road test.
A dashboard or gopro cam footage would really get the authorities attention.
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Ah so your a two hand on the wheel kinda guy.
The statement that talking and driving is just as distracting as TXTing and driving is pure BS. Hell rip your radio out of your Eco Hybrid bs car to while your at it. As far as your BS studies go its the same as all studies. You set out to make a point and find the best way to make it, then write a paper and call it a study that proves your BS point.
Oh and Implying that people are trying to kill you because they are talking on a phone is mental
Honestly if you insist on talking on your cell phone while driving I would prefer you spend more of your time in the woods looking for bigfoot and less on the roadways.
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The statement that talking and driving is just as distracting as TXTing and driving is pure BS.
Ah so we should just take your opinion as fact because it's your well studied opinion.
When I was learning to fly this was drilled into me: AVIATE, navigate, communicate. In that order of priority. Observing once in a professional cockpit on a long cross country jet flight, I was struck how the conversation stopped as soon as a radio call came, a control tasked was performed, etc. The conversation then resumed seemingly uninterrupted. The key was the conversation stopped and the brain was freed to perform the task with the required thought and diligence.
The difference between talking on a cell phone while driving and a cockpit (or even a auto passenger) is that the other party on the cell phone does not have the expectation of required pauses and the driver is expected to continue listening or talking despite the higher priority driving tasks at hand.
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Again more BS.
I was a flight paramedic for several years. Communication was absolutely vital for the helicopter to land safely in some of the areas we had to land in. ( 3ft clearance on the blades). We talked to each other constantly on the way to the call as well as several other support organizations. Talking and driving hinders you no more than talking to a passenger in your vehicle or dealing with 3 screaming kids in the back seat. TxTing and driving takes your eyes off the road while your replying to your BFF. Equating the two and lumping them in together is flat stupid.
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...We talked to each other constantly on the way to the call as well as several other support organizations. Talking and driving hinders you no more than talking to a passenger in your vehicle or dealing with 3 screaming kids in the back seat... Equating the two and lumping them in together is flat stupid.
But the communication was part of the task at hand, not the wife calling about how the 3 kids are driving her nuts and her new hair and nail polish color is just like what's her name on the Jersey Shore while trying to land with 3' rotor clearance.
So why, in your mind, is the mental priority giving to landing with 3' rotor clearance different then the priority that should be given when you are 3' from my car with 130mph closing speed.
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Ah so your a two hand on the wheel kinda guy.
The statement that talking and driving is just as distracting as TXTing and driving is pure BS. Hell rip your radio out of your Eco Hybrid bs car to while your at it. As far as your BS studies go its the same as all studies. You set out to make a point and find the best way to make it, then write a paper and call it a study that proves your BS point.
Oh and Implying that people are trying to kill you because they are talking on a phone is mental
Naturally texting takes your eyes off the road. Talking on the phone is different because the person you are talking to is not present in the vehicle.
There isn't any dispute in scientific circles that phone calls, even hands free CAN have a detrimental effect on a drivers ability to concentrate. One of my lecturers is one of Europe's leading experts in precisely this area.
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You can do what the hell you like Rich, as long as it doesn't effect other people, which talking and texting on your mobile phone while driving does / can.
As usual you are unable to grasp the true meaning of what I was saying. It had nothing to do with cell phone usage BTW.
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As usual you are unable to grasp the true meaning of what I was saying. It had nothing to do with cell phone usage BTW.
As usual? :rofl :rofl
You took the opportunity to imply irrelevant loss of freedom & I pointed out the fault in what you like to call thinking :neener:
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There is nothing humorous about auto collisions and people getting injured, but when the subject comes up in conversation....
I work in the auto collision industry and talking on the phone or texting while driving is good for business.
There used to be a distinct difference in the type and amount of collisions between summer and winter. Summer was never busy and winter
was a perpetual overload of work. Nowadays it is always like winter time, never a break.
Like I said, I don't like it when people get hurt.
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As usual? :rofl :rofl
You took the opportunity to imply irrelevant loss of freedom & I pointed out the fault in what you like to call thinking :neener:
Shida I bet Ive been to thousands of accident scenes and cant remember one that was caused by talking on a cell phone. But hey, what do I know?
It, the charge, is just another scam to beat the working stiff out of $150.
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There is not one single credible report that talking on the phone while driving is any more distracting to the driver of the vehicle than any other amount of mundane every day task they do in the same vehicle while driving.
Every report I've ever seen has a second agenda to push.
That is absolutely not the case with TxTing and driving. It has been proved to be worse than drunk driving.
There are and will continue to be sorry drivers in all country's around the world. This will not change EVER!!!!!!
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it always depends on the driver... I had someone pull up to my right side and start yelling at me for being on the phone for driving, the road narrowed into 1 lane from 2 and he did not notice and ended up jumping the curb almost hitting a pedestrian and then hitting a light post, so for everyone who is very against talking on the phone while behind the wheel, I don't agree, I think people just need to not be idiot drivers
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There is not one single credible report that talking on the phone while driving is any more distracting to the driver of the vehicle than any other amount of mundane every day task they do in the same vehicle while driving.
Here's the problems with that statement. The only report you would find credible is one that agreed with your preconceived idea, therefore you wrongly reason that there are no credible reports. Additionally you equate attentive driving to driving while performing "mundane every day task", whereas the rest of us are arguing that talking on a phone while driving is distracting to attentive driving. Not that talking on the phone is no more distracting then other distracted driving behaviors.
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Not that talking on the phone is no more distracting then other distracted driving behaviors.
That is precisely what I have been saying thank you
Hell this would make a good myth busters program
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It, the charge, is just another scam to beat the working stiff out of $150.
Sure, these sort of scams are everywhere, but if you know about it in advance...
Shida I bet Ive been to thousands of accident scenes and cant remember one that was caused by talking on a cell phone. But hey, what do I know?
I don't doubt you, but that's not a rigorous method to assert a hypothesis, what about VonMessa's story? There's your proof by contradiction to your 'for all' assertion.
I'm sure you know a lot Rich, just your delivery could use some work :D
There is not one single credible report that talking on the phone while driving is any more distracting to the driver of the vehicle than any other amount of mundane every day task they do in the same vehicle while driving.
Every report I've ever seen has a second agenda to push.
At my University they have a driving simulator lab and they run experiments constantly with overloading a driver's attention and then monitoring his / her ability to assimilate and prioritize tasks. Just like SA in AH, every distraction contributes to a reduction. If you throw in a critical driving situation right at the point of a critical conversation normal people (as opposed to fighter pilots, even simulated ones :rock) just aren't very good at sorting that out.
Chatting to someone in the car is slightly different because they are present and can also observe the driving situation. Even talking on a hands free set detracts although it's probably at the lower end of the list. You are right about the other mundane tasks people do, they shouldn't do those either and some of them are worse. Once I rode my motorcycle behind a car driver who was having a shave and putting on his tie etc at 70 m.p.h. on a dual carriage way :rolleyes:
There are and will continue to be sorry drivers in all country's around the world. This will not change EVER!!!!!!
Yup, and the ever increasing WALL·E movement in product design and especially the motor industry is amplifying that :old:
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Dont smoke, dont not wear a helmut, dont cross in the middle of the street, dont drink a coca-cola thats to large, dont talk on a cell phone..the list goes on. Cameras here, cameras there. How lucky we all are to have big Bro looking out for us.
If you have no problem with somebody slamming into the car with your kids because they were texting, do you have problems with a drunk driver doing the same thing?
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ehhh I wish the honda accord I rear-ended thought that no damage was done, you know since I was talking on a cell phone and obviously not distracted-therefore no damage could have been done.
$3k for some headlamps & bumper.
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Hmmm, some girl here just smashed into a tree while talking on her mobile, killed herself, boyfriend heard the crash over the phone.
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Hmmm, some girl here just smashed into a tree while talking on her mobile, killed herself, boyfriend heard the crash over the phone.
Must have been the tree's fault for being in the way...
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I don't doubt you, but that's not a rigorous method to assert a hypothesis, what about VonMessa's story? There's your proof by contradiction to your 'for all' assertion.
Ive seen accidents caused by people talking while driving. So why not pass a law outlawing "talking while driving", or, "scratching your bum while driving". When do things cross the thresh hold where Big Bro gets to step in and intrude even more in our lives? Stealing even more of our wealth? I for one refuse to write this ticket. Unless the driver doing it is so engrossed they arent paying attention to the road. And we already had a charge for that ; Its called "negligent driving".
As for "rigorous methods" those usually involves "statistics" which are a form of witch craft all their own. "We" dont have much respect for them so why should you?
I'm sure you know a lot Rich, just your delivery could use some work
My delivery is done with a purpose. Its not personal so dont take it so. Your first two were a bit edgy too but Im still smiling. See :)
At my University they have a driving simulator lab and they run experiments constantly with overloading a driver's attention and then monitoring his / her ability to assimilate and prioritize tasks. Just like SA in AH, every distraction contributes to a reduction. If you throw in a critical driving situation right at the point of a critical conversation normal people (as opposed to fighter pilots, even simulated ones rock) just aren't very good at sorting that out.
Yes Universitys are great for "simulating" and "statisticale'izin". But they aint real life and again when does it cross the thresh hold when a bunch of elected idiots can pass a law whose real purpose, tho they deny it, is to create new revenue streams for Big Bro? Now Im avoiding the "P" word here while trying to make my point about "intrusion into our lives".
Chatting to someone in the car is slightly different because they are present and can also observe the driving situation.
If the driver is chatting my friend we can assume the rider is chatting as well and is just as engrossed. Even talking on a hands free set detracts although it's probably at the lower end of the list. You are right about the other mundane tasks people do, they shouldn't do those either and some of them are worse. Once I rode my motorcycle behind a car driver who was having a shave and putting on his tie etc at 70 m.p.h. on a dual carriage way
Ive given long, accurate, continuous radio comms while chasing a felon at speeds up to 120 mph for 20+ mins and without cracking up. I have no special powers that others dont have. 30+ years and Ive never cracked up a squad despite all the mayhem and many, many citizens have stellar driving records as well. Despite talking on a cell phone while driving, which BTW I also do.
My Gosh! We let deaf people drive, badly disabled people drive, people so dang old they think they are still in their '46 Buick, yet we calmly accept this nit wit law on cell phones. My friend the longer Im on this job the more Big Bro, and its vision of imposed Utopia, scares me. We cant talk politics here so I'll leave it at that. Next is stop sign cams and speed cams everywhere, to go along with real time cams all over the place. Eventually it will be robots, retina scans, and "Pre Crime".
Im just glad I remember a simpler time where people had individuality, honor, common sense, and responsibility.
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In AZ we have an open container law. Most believe that is for alcohol, which it does include but is not limited to. The law iirc can be applied to drinking any beverage while driving a vehicle. I'm not sure if anyone ever gets the ticket for anything other than alcohol, but the law was written as such, I'm guessing maybe as much as 6-7 decades ago...
Driving school was a long time ago, but the law was covered.
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In AZ we have an open container law. Most believe that is for alcohol, which it does include but is not limited to. The law iirc can be applied to drinking any beverage while driving a vehicle. I'm not sure if anyone ever gets the ticket for anything other than alcohol, but the law was written as such, I'm guessing maybe as much as 6-7 decades ago...
Driving school was a long time ago, but the law was covered.
We have a law in PA stating that it is unlawful to sleep on top of a refrigerator...
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Lol, the point was that enough ppl thought that drinking anything while driving was a distraction. Yes driving a car back then took more skill...
I used to do Phx to Ft. Collins only to stop for gas/bathroom. I can attest to many things that are distracting while driving, some are ok under some circumstances and others are probably rarely safe to do. I did round trips in Dec/Jan and as you can imagine I've seen ppl in blizzards using their cell phones as they normally would. Rich has a point, we don't need another law, the law we have; being negligent while driving does just fine. Using a cell phone without hands-free squarely fits in that category imo. However, I'm not on-board the w/big brother gist part of it, it already exists and should be enforced to save lives/limbs. We probably have a texting while driving fatality once a week in phx, I imagine we have a lot of serious accidents that were simply talking about as much, maybe more...only the texting ones make the news.
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Those causing injury while driving on a Phone should be put in a Cell. :t
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Ive seen accidents caused by people talking while driving. So why not pass a law outlawing "talking while driving", or, "scratching your bum while driving". When do things cross the thresh hold where Big Bro gets to step in and intrude even more in our lives? Stealing even more of our wealth? I for one refuse to write this ticket. Unless the driver doing it is so engrossed they arent paying attention to the road. And we already had a charge for that ; Its called "negligent driving".
Yup, same in Britain: 'Driving without due care and attention'.
As for "rigorous methods" those usually involves "statistics" which are a form of witch craft all their own. "We" dont have much respect for them so why should you?
Statistics are obviously open to abuse and interpretation and especially uselessly for extrapolation. I was talking about scientific method and when done properly it does produce meaningful and useful data and knowledge. Whether you have faith in science or not it truly pervades everyone's life to an unnoticed extent and has done more good than any political or religious movement ever.
The University simulator has been proven valid. If they went about producing peer-reviewed papers on assumption they wouldn't be attached to the Uni for very long. I think one or more of the motor manufacturers helps witht he funding. I'll try to find out.
Ive given long, accurate, continuous radio comms while chasing a felon at speeds up to 120 mph for 20+ mins and without cracking up.
Isn't that a essentially a commentary on your primary activity - driving? Presumably you also had training which included your driving? I'd imagine most in-car cellphone conversations could wait but people even seem unwilling to let them ring more than once :rolleyes:
Thing is about cellphones is how quickly they pervaded the culture and became the standard attachment for the side of one's head including the use of one arm. This could explain the special legislation
Im just glad I remember a simpler time where people had individuality, honor, common sense, and responsibility.
Me too and I agree with you, especially in this instance. People used to take more pride and time in their activities including driving now everything is mostly convenience-focussed it seems.
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Yup, same in Britain: 'Driving without due care and attention'.
I object!
How can that be determined?
You guys can't even drive on the proper side of the road... :P
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ehhh I wish the honda accord I rear-ended thought that no damage was done, you know since I was talking on a cell phone and obviously not distracted-therefore no damage could have been done.
$3k for some headlamps & bumper.
run into me while you have a phone stuck to the side of your head, or puttin on makeup, or texting, or reading the newspaper, or looking at a map, or stoned, or drunk...you better have good hospitalization insurance.
if my wife and/or kids are in the car when it happens, make sure your life insurance is paid up...
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I object!
How can that be determined?
Well you dump the car and driver in a lake and if it floats they are guilty :old:
You guys can't even drive on the proper side of the road... :P
They certainly sit on the right side of the car :lol
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run into me while you have a phone stuck to the side of your head, or puttin on makeup, or texting, or reading the newspaper, or looking at a map, or stoned, or drunk...you better have good hospitalization insurance.
if my wife and/or kids are in the car when it happens, make sure your life insurance is paid up...
and you better hope that your family doesn't miss you too much while your in jail, seriously, even after the guy yelling at me, calling me all sorts of names and stuff like that, hit the pole I hung up my phone, pulled over and made sure he is okay, and I would have done the same thing even if he hit my car instead of a lamp post, car crashes suck, but if you ever come out of one with the intent to cause harm to the person that caused it, I would say you're a bigger dirt bag than a distracted driver at that point in time
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Well you dump the car and driver in a lake and if it floats they are guilty :old:
They certainly sit on the right side of the car :lol
Only if it's made of wood!
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and you better hope that your family doesn't miss you too much while your in jail, seriously, even after the guy yelling at me, calling me all sorts of names and stuff like that, hit the pole I hung up my phone, pulled over and made sure he is okay, and I would have done the same thing even if he hit my car instead of a lamp post, car crashes suck, but if you ever come out of one with the intent to cause harm to the person that caused it, I would say you're a bigger dirt bag than a distracted driver at that point in time
Nash If you would have seen some of the accidents I've seen caused by drunk drivers and the death of children as a result of those accidents you wouldn't feel that way.
What used to piss me off was when one walked away, after killing a whole family, without injury. I personally would beat that guy until the cops got there if a drunk ever hurt my daughter. The same way I would if he just walked up to her and slapped her in a store. There are laws then there are deep down man laws.
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notice I said distracted driving, drinking and driving is unacceptable to me, if you drink and drive 1 time than that's it, you should never be able to drive on the street again period, and if you have a crash while drinking and driving. life in prison, no parole ever, the difference between drinking and driving and distracted driving is that, "oh crap need both hands on the wheel right now, drop phone" the thing with drinking and driving is you cant just "drop the phone" so to speak
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and you better hope that your family doesn't miss you too much while your in jail, seriously, even after the guy yelling at me, calling me all sorts of names and stuff like that, hit the pole I hung up my phone, pulled over and made sure he is okay, and I would have done the same thing even if he hit my car instead of a lamp post, car crashes suck, but if you ever come out of one with the intent to cause harm to the person that caused it, I would say you're a bigger dirt bag than a distracted driver at that point in time
you seem to think that if you endanger my family due to negligence (driving with a phone stuck to your skull and causing a collision is negligence) that i would care about jail. i'd rather serve a few years for temporary insanity than let a moron continue to endanger people.
if it's just me in the car, you tripped on your phone and hit your head pretty hard, then in your delirious state you attempted to hit me and i had to put you down... :devil
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Yup, same in Britain: 'Driving without due care and attention'.
I dimly remember some program that showed a British motorist getting a ticket for not having both hands on the wheel. Does that fall under 'Driving without due care and attention'? Or was it a misplaced memory on my part.
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notice I said distracted driving, drinking and driving is unacceptable to me, if you drink and drive 1 time than that's it, you should never be able to drive on the street again period, and if you have a crash while drinking and driving. life in prison, no parole ever, the difference between drinking and driving and distracted driving is that, "oh crap need both hands on the wheel right now, drop phone" the thing with drinking and driving is you cant just "drop the phone" so to speak
Huh?
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when you are driving on the phone, you can drop the phone and revert 100% of your concentration to the road (so if you are a good driver, imo you can safely drive while on the phone) but,
when you are drinking and driving. you can not just become undrunk in an emergency situation, so that is why I never include drinking and driving in the same argument as distracted driving..
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you seem to think that if you endanger my family due to negligence (driving with a phone stuck to your skull and causing a collision is negligence) that i would care about jail. i'd rather serve a few years for temporary insanity than let a moron continue to endanger people.
if it's just me in the car, you tripped on your phone and hit your head pretty hard, then in your delirious state you attempted to hit me and i had to put you down... :devil
It's not temporary insanity when you've predetermined what you plan on doing. Not wise to post it in a public forum, speak about it to friends, etc...prosecutors look for this stuff.
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The amount of stupid I am seeing.... Just...wow.
You go ahead and keep talking/texting while driving.
You WILL screw up.
And WHEN you screw up, I hope for two things:
1) You don't somehow involve someone else (unless they were doing the same exact thing. Nothing wrong with a 2 for 1 deal there)
2) You learn your lesson or get killed.
Plain and simple.
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I dimly remember some program that showed a British motorist getting a ticket for not having both hands on the wheel. Does that fall under 'Driving without due care and attention'? Or was it a misplaced memory on my part.
I believe it depends Doright, on what you were doing. If you're taking your hand off the wheel to do something secondary to driving which puts yourself or others in danger then bingo. Fair enough really.
In Britain there used to be more traffic police on patrol, I think I met most of them when I was a motorcyclist :eek: Then came the Gatso cameras, which were cheaper and generated more revenue. I think the former is better to instill more focus on responsible driving, now people tend to drive fast and with less attention nearly everywhere and brake before the speed cameras with little other supervision.
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During my 2 years in England, we were warned during our driving class that driving with any distraction would earn a hefty fine and possibly a loss of license until we completed an expensive driving school. A friend of mine got busted for eating an apple on the way to work on a pretty much deserted road. The fine was more than $300. Lots of Americans would get busted for taking sips of water or other drinks while driving. All the major highways around Lakenheath have little rest stop areas every few miles. So if you are thirsty, you are supposed to pull over, take a drink, then get back on the road.
At first it made me wonder how people ever got anywhere or got anything done, but after a few months I realized nobody gets anything done there anyhow, and lots of people never go anywhere either, so it really only affects a small portion of the population. I would often drink a soda on the way to work, but I would sneak the drinks as if I was speeding, on the alert for police. Strangely enough, I never got into an accident...
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Made me chuckle.
I see cops on the phone all the time driving.
Seems the one who took the video was using his/hers as well.
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Made me chuckle.
I see cops on the phone all the time driving.
Seems the one who took the video was using his/hers as well.
the film is from russia or somewhere near there where there's a lot of scams involving accidents. so lots of people have installed "dash" cameras to protect themselves.
as for the cops on the phone, I rarely see one that isnt on the phone and strangely most of those not on the phone are women.
semp
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the film is from russia or somewhere near there where there's a lot of scams involving accidents. so lots of people have installed "dash" cameras to protect themselves.
as for the cops on the phone, I rarely see one that isnt on the phone and strangely most of those not on the phone are women.
semp
:lol Ya know, it's actually like that here. It's the female LEO's that I rarely see on the cell.
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:lol Ya know, it's actually like that here. It's the female LEO's that I rarely see on the cell.
it's fricking weird where I live, most of the cops drive with one hand on the phone slumping down as if they were in a low rider looking straight ahead, while the female cops are actually looking around.
oh well, i guess that's one of the perks. that and getting freebies at the local topless bar.
semp
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it's fricking weird where I live, most of the cops drive with one hand on the phone slumping down as if they were in a low rider looking straight ahead, while the female cops are actually looking around.
oh well, i guess that's one of the perks. that and getting freebies at the local topless bar.
semp
Sounds like you want to be a cop.
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Sounds like you want to be a cop.
not really, but based on the other postings I know you want to be a dick.
semp
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not really, but based on the other postings I know you want to be a dick.
semp
You talk about dick an awful lot... :banana: