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Title: So Called Cheats
Post by: earl1937 on February 17, 2014, 03:20:25 PM
 :airplane: I have a question which I would like to hear you guys comments on! While enjoying a round of golf one day, a gentleman on my cart with me had an I pad. Out of curiosity I asked if I could try something and he handed me his device. In 20 seconds or less, I was on the Aces High web site! Now what is to keep someone from using an I pad or smart phone, paying the 14.95 a month and monitoring which ever country he would like to?
Is this something that is a problem or going to be? If not, please advise me! A lot of guys are getting frustrated with the game because of un-explained goon kills, bombers flying straight to a CV and a host of other things.
I am raising this point because I don't want anything to disrupt this great game!
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: LCADolby on February 17, 2014, 03:25:24 PM
12 hour rule does not discourage vox PM or text PM.
So people can pass information about the other side freely.

Reduce the 12 hour rule, it is stupid.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: zack1234 on February 17, 2014, 03:35:44 PM
This is the daftest thread ever :rofl

What if people had a carrier pigeon each and sent to tell someone where a CV was :old:

Golf is poo!


A lot of angry people play golf :old:
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: guncrasher on February 17, 2014, 03:36:40 PM
:airplane: I have a question which I would like to hear you guys comments on! While enjoying a round of golf one day, a gentleman on my cart with me had an I pad. Out of curiosity I asked if I could try something and he handed me his device. In 20 seconds or less, I was on the Aces High web site! Now what is to keep someone from using an I pad or smart phone, paying the 14.95 a month and monitoring which ever country he would like to?
Is this something that is a problem or going to be? If not, please advise me! A lot of guys are getting frustrated with the game because of un-explained goon kills, bombers flying straight to a CV and a host of other things.
I am raising this point because I don't want anything to disrupt this great game!

you cannot load the game on an iPad or smart phone.



semp
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Aspen on February 17, 2014, 03:38:33 PM
If someone actually spends an extra $14.95 a month to screw up my attack plans or sink my CV... I win.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: BluBerry on February 17, 2014, 03:39:00 PM
:airplane: I have a question which I would like to hear you guys comments on! While enjoying a round of golf one day, a gentleman on my cart with me had an I pad. Out of curiosity I asked if I could try something and he handed me his device. In 20 seconds or less, I was on the Aces High web site! Now what is to keep someone from using an I pad or smart phone, paying the 14.95 a month and monitoring which ever country he would like to?
Is this something that is a problem or going to be? If not, please advise me! A lot of guys are getting frustrated with the game because of un-explained goon kills, bombers flying straight to a CV and a host of other things.
I am raising this point because I don't want anything to disrupt this great game!

Good luck trying to install Aces High on an Ipad or smart phone.

Currently there is nothing keeping anyone from having multiple accounts. If you have multiple computers then yes, you could have both running AH at the same time and monitor two different countries. However this is nothing new and it has been this way forever so I doubt now is the time that it will cripple the game.

If someone wants to pay an extra 14.95 a month to monitor a different country then you cannot stop that and nor should they, because at this point every dollar that HTC makes is valuable to keeping the game alive.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: zack1234 on February 17, 2014, 03:39:58 PM
He means people using it to contact the other side like a spiritualist :old:

If we ban electricty there would be no cheating :old:

Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Motherland on February 17, 2014, 03:44:42 PM
Now what is to keep someone from using an I pad or smart phone, paying the 14.95 a month and monitoring which ever country he would like to?
The inability to install the game on a non-windows-desktop operating system device stops anyone from doing that with an iPad or smart phone.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Aspen on February 17, 2014, 03:45:05 PM
Spying was a huge part of WWII and no doubt changed the outcome of many battles.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Tinkles on February 17, 2014, 03:45:56 PM
12 hour rule does not discourage vox PM or text PM.
So people can pass information about the other side freely.

Reduce the 12 hour rule, it is stupid.

Ding Ding

We haz a winnah!

Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: BaldEagl on February 17, 2014, 03:52:17 PM
Buy the book:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,358519.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,358519.0.html)
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Slate on February 17, 2014, 03:54:16 PM
     Spies!  :noid   Did they send in unarmed troop transports with no fighter cover? We do in AH. Do we have Coast watchers that report sightings of ships and aircraft, they did in ww2. Our Oceans are tiny in comparison to the Pacific theater. Do we have lame gamers in AH? well perhaps.  :ahand


     I see you! (http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx78/Starsky0520/Coast%20Guard/Lookout.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Starsky0520/media/Coast%20Guard/Lookout.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Lusche on February 17, 2014, 03:56:13 PM
A lot of guys are getting frustrated with the game because of un-explained goon kills, bombers flying straight to a CV and a host of other things.

Most "unexplained" things are actually very easy to explain, the problem is almost nobody wants to. Going ballistic on country is so much more convenient.
The overwhelming majority of this stuff happens because of totally 'legit' reasons. Most folks are simply extremely quick with knee-jerk "cheat" reactions.

Goons get shot down in foreseeable places. Certain squads launching their attacks always in the same, predictable pattern. Bombers skipping dars in a way you can easily pinpoint them in the remaining non dar space of a sector. NOE'S going thru an undetected CV dar circle. A friendly bomber drags enemy fighter to own CV... fighter radios CV position back home and when bombers sink that very CV 15 minutes later, everybody is going like " he went suspiciously straight to the CV". I have seen stuff like that hundreds of times.

I remember a particular incident where an enemy fighter was scouting for a lost CV we had hidden. For almost one hour he was zigzagging across the likely locations until he had found it. When he came back 20 minutes later in a Arados to sink it, about half a dozen well known "AH vets" agreed with each other he must have used a shade  :rolleyes:

I had people endlessly scream "traitor in SB" i was sitting in, because I didn't fire at the enemy CV... which was just outside SB arc.


Oh... and most "tricks", like driving in an M3 with troops to a base that doesn't have a direct Gv spawn to it, aren't new either. After playing a couple of years, you've most likely seen them all .. you check the approach route for such an M3, find & kill it and get the PM "You could not know that! SHADE!"

Cheesy things happen (and almost impossible to prevent), but only  a tiny fration of the rate which is being claimed.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: earl1937 on February 17, 2014, 04:02:28 PM
you cannot load the game on an iPad or smart phone.



semp
:airplane: Didn't try to download it, was just asking the question. If you can get on the internet with an I pad or smart phone, why couldn't you download the game?
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: kvuo75 on February 17, 2014, 04:04:31 PM
as usual, lusche is correct.

Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: kvuo75 on February 17, 2014, 04:05:09 PM
:airplane: Didn't try to download it, was just asking the question. If you can get on the internet with an I pad or smart phone, why couldn't you download the game?

it wont run on a phone or an ipad.




Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Karnak on February 17, 2014, 04:07:47 PM
Could in run on one of the Win8 pads?
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: DmonSlyr on February 17, 2014, 04:09:02 PM
Well I changed sides last night so I could get more action in the fights. I'm sure it made a lot of people disappointed. However, Im loyal to any side that Im on at any given time and will do my best to check 6 and make sure friendlies survive.  

I think spying in this game is retarted. If you have to spy to "own" or control the map. You are pron a newb b
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 17, 2014, 04:18:29 PM
Could in run on one of the Win8 pads?

Yes but the performance will not be very good.  The Surface Pro I and II will run games like Call of Duty: Ghosts but at reduced settings, so it should also run AH.  The Razor gaming tablet will also run AH but I don't know how well, haven't really messed with the Razer tablet too much.

ack-ack
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Wiley on February 17, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
Regardless of how they find out, if your mission is going to fail if it encounters resistance, it's not very well planned.

Wiley.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: wpeters on February 17, 2014, 04:25:51 PM
One time day I upped a A-20 when fighters were down. Got to of them as I slowly worked my way south of the base so I could climb out. As I climbed out was watching the radar, making sure I wasnt going to get hit when I see a dot on the edge of radar coverage hovering in the same place. I call it out over the radio and head out thinking it might be a set of bombers waiting till the hangers pop to go in and take them down again.  I get to the dot on the radar screen at about 7k.  There is know airplanes in sight. I roll the A20 into a 45 degree left hand bank and start a slow steady circle around the radar contact.  About 60 seconds into the orbit and 180 degrees later I spot a goon flying low over the water. I roll over on my back and dive in. I clobber him in one  pass and blows up.  
  About 30 seconds later i get a pm telling me that I am a cheat and using a shade account. Since there was no way that I could see him since he was flying around in a circle at 30 Feet.  I think what happened is every time he turned he would pop radar then dive back down to 30 feet at the end of the turn.


Another thing I find amazing is taking a jeep up close to a high traffic enemy base and call out over vox and type in radio all the different types of aircraft leaving the field.  ( I like to pretend I am recon unit in Indian Country


Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: lunatic1 on February 17, 2014, 04:52:23 PM
you can put any players name in vox and tell them whats going on--you can be a knight player-and switch to rook-and tell your knight friend on vox-where rook cv's are at.-aka   spying---which won't do. :joystick:
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: colmbo on February 17, 2014, 05:03:42 PM
Most "unexplained" things are actually very easy to explain, the problem is almost nobody wants to.

Long, long ago in a land called Mac Air Warrior on AOL I flew the P-38 almost exclusively so I got decent in it.  I would routinely kill a guy, he would insinuate that I was cheating/hacking.  This went on quite a while.  One day he was the lone enemy, a total noob and I were on the same side….he had been slaughtering the noob flying a Spitfire.  I launch in my 38 and kill him a few times.  The noob reups in a 38, probably seeing my success, so evil thinker me ups in a Spit.  Yep, "that guy" assumed the 38 was me and ignored my Spit as I closed and shot him off the six of the 38.  He came on with a rant about my hacking rear firing guns on the 38, blah blah.  I posted the film up for review…he was very humble after that.  :)

Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Lusche on February 17, 2014, 05:14:13 PM
(...) He came on with a rant about my hacking rear firing guns on the 38, blah blah.  I posted the film up for review…he was very humble after that.  :)


 :lol
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: morfiend on February 17, 2014, 05:18:49 PM
:airplane: Didn't try to download it, was just asking the question. If you can get on the internet with an I pad or smart phone, why couldn't you download the game?


  Earl, I have a tv that can "get on the net",it will surf webpages,stream youtube,let me do email but it wont run AH. I could read the forum with it but that doesnt mean I can install and run a game.

  That said,I also have 2 desktops and could install 2 copies of AH if I wanted to but I see no reason other than to review films.

  If you read what Lusche wrote you will see that most things can be explained without that 5 letter word!

   As long as you have fun doing whatever you do while playing AH,who cares what "others" say!



     :salute
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: ImADot on February 17, 2014, 05:23:24 PM
Being able to access the BBS doesn't give you the ability to see inside the game environment to see what players are doing and where things are.
Title: Re: Earl cannot plan accordingly
Post by: Masherbrum on February 17, 2014, 05:24:34 PM
I am one of many who fail to properly plan missions, or read the map to see logical strike points and weaknesses on a front.

It is easier to blame someone else.
Title: Re: Earl cannot plan accordingly
Post by: Bear76 on February 17, 2014, 05:40:40 PM
It is easier to blame someone else.

I always blame you  :D
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: bustr on February 17, 2014, 05:43:20 PM
If you run an noe mission that goes over water, and as you get there a hoard is waiting for you magically. Someone probably watched you from the CV just out of your visual range as your big red blob of dots passed by on their dar. POTW got caught with that twice in the last few months. The epic fail hurts but, the epic fun generated can't be complained about. At least we cornered a hoard of red guys where they were willing to shoot at us. It was our own hubris that we only brought TuTus because we were convinced we would have the base down and captured before the hoard showed up.

A lot of bad unexplained out comes against the best laid plans, are simple hubris and impatience over coming the planning. You only have so much time to spend playing, and the arena looses population at a know rate in the evening. So you want to get out there asap and have fun. Anyone who has been part of a mission noe over water where an enemy CV was never supposed to be, knows how it feels to be flying along cutting up on channel with your friends and 5 inchers open up. At least your mission accomplished finding a hidden CV.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Gemini on February 17, 2014, 05:47:20 PM
A lot of guys are getting frustrated with the game because of un-explained goon kills, bombers flying straight to a CV and a host of other things.

They should just quit the game, they are bringing down the collective IQ of the playerbase
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 17, 2014, 05:50:36 PM
Long, long ago in a land called Mac Air Warrior on AOL I flew the P-38 almost exclusively so I got decent in it.  I would routinely kill a guy, he would insinuate that I was cheating/hacking.  This went on quite a while.  One day he was the lone enemy, a total noob and I were on the same side….he had been slaughtering the noob flying a Spitfire.  I launch in my 38 and kill him a few times.  The noob reups in a 38, probably seeing my success, so evil thinker me ups in a Spit.  Yep, "that guy" assumed the 38 was me and ignored my Spit as I closed and shot him off the six of the 38.  He came on with a rant about my hacking rear firing guns on the 38, blah blah.  I posted the film up for review…he was very humble after that.  :)

There was a well known squadron a few years ago named SOARS that had two members that would routinely call me a cheat.  Both of these guys were convinced that I had some sort of hack that would disable their guns when they got on my six and disable their flight controls when I got on their six.  

This screenshot is one a favorite of mine.  What makes it really funny is that both players accusing me of cheating and spying are both off my six, within icon range and could clearly see (if their heads weren't suck where the Sun doesn't shine) my handle over my plane.  Didn't stop the cheating/spying accusations though.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/Ack-Ack/ahss43.jpg)

ack-ack
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: FLOOB on February 17, 2014, 05:58:29 PM
:airplane: I have a question which I would like to hear you guys comments on! While enjoying a round of golf one day, a gentleman on my cart with me had an I pad. Out of curiosity I asked if I could try something and he handed me his device. In 20 seconds or less, I was on the Aces High web site! Now what is to keep someone from using an I pad or smart phone, paying the 14.95 a month and monitoring which ever country he would like to?
Is this something that is a problem or going to be? If not, please advise me! A lot of guys are getting frustrated with the game because of un-explained goon kills, bombers flying straight to a CV and a host of other things.
I am raising this point because I don't want anything to disrupt this great game!
Golf? You must be a p51 flyer.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: molybdenum on February 17, 2014, 06:02:44 PM
There most definitely ARE folk with dual accounts who use one to spy with, one to fly with (I'm thinking of a certain player in particular right now who recently returned to AH, is very often online, but never ever has upped anything).
And I suppose there are lowlifes who tell friends on other teams where CVs are, where an noe mission is going, etc. But it's a tiny minority and imo gameplay is affected minimally.
If spying ever became pervasive--or even if I erroneously thought it was pervasive--I'd stop playing the game. The fun would be gone.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Max on February 17, 2014, 06:04:05 PM
There was a well known squadron a few years ago named SOARS

A goofier bunch of knuckleheads have yet to be found  :devil
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: MADe on February 17, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
:airplane: I have a question which I would like to hear you guys comments on! While enjoying a round of golf one day, a gentleman on my cart with me had an I pad. Out of curiosity I asked if I could try something and he handed me his device. In 20 seconds or less, I was on the Aces High web site! Now what is to keep someone from using an I pad or smart phone, paying the 14.95 a month and monitoring which ever country he would like to?
Is this something that is a problem or going to be? If not, please advise me! A lot of guys are getting frustrated with the game because of un-explained goon kills, bombers flying straight to a CV and a host of other things.
I am raising this point because I don't want anything to disrupt this great game!

Earl,
I was on coms during said convo. Dam near blew my cool when being insulted for disagreeing with all the supposed spy methods.
Guncrashers link is quite illuminating.
Any group can set up a 3rd party com system. ie teamspeak
If someone is rich enough to buy a 2nd and 3rd account, use multiple machines in order to gain an advantage, his loss of money, time and class.

There are many gripes to be had if that's where you want to go. Unlimited jets, bar dar, mission planners who scream join my mission with 10min and less warning, internet latency, hackers, yada yada. I say have fun, enjoy yourself to the fullest and play to your hearts content.

AH is a war simulator, all the things that happened in real war, happen in AH. Just be glad you can die over and over again, kill, kill, killll.
One day the game will be gone and we will miss even the BS. I was in flight, in FA, when the plug was pulled. Felt like an infant who just had his bottle taken away.
Enjoy to the fullest, nothing else like it!
 :salute
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: guncrasher on February 17, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
:airplane: Didn't try to download it, was just asking the question. If you can get on the internet with an I pad or smart phone, why couldn't you download the game?

you can download the game, play it is a different thing.


semp
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: BluBerry on February 17, 2014, 07:29:53 PM

If someone is rich enough to buy a 2nd and 3rd account, use multiple machines in order to gain an advantage, his loss of money, time and class.


Not everyone who pays for multiple accounts is cheating. I pay 44.85 per month, however I only own one account. The other two subs I pay are for friends who wouldn't be flying in game otherwise.

Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: guncrasher on February 17, 2014, 07:31:51 PM
Earl,
I was on coms during said convo. Dam near blew my cool when being insulted for disagreeing with all the supposed spy methods.
Guncrashers link is quite illuminating.
Any group can set up a 3rd party com system. ie teamspeak
If someone is rich enough to buy a 2nd and 3rd account, use multiple machines in order to gain an advantage, his loss of money, time and class.

There are many gripes to be had if that's where you want to go. Unlimited jets, bar dar, mission planners who scream join my mission with 10min and less warning, internet latency, hackers, yada yada. I say have fun, enjoy yourself to the fullest and play to your hearts content.

AH is a war simulator, all the things that happened in real war, happen in AH. Just be glad you can die over and over again, kill, kill, killll.
One day the game will be gone and we will miss even the BS. I was in flight, in FA, when the plug was pulled. Felt like an infant who just had his bottle taken away.
Enjoy to the fullest, nothing else like it!
 :salute

what link?

semp
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: guncrasher on February 17, 2014, 07:36:50 PM
Not everyone who pays for multiple accounts is cheating. I pay 44.85 per month, however I only own one account. The other two subs I pay are for friends who wouldn't be flying in game otherwise.



I have had 2 accounts or paying for two accounts past couple of years, other account has been used by players that couldnt afford it.  I am happy, I can afford it as somebody else paid for me when I first started it and couldnt afford it.  I am just paying it forward.

btw as for bombers heading straight for the cv, I would like to thank the gunners.  you can see the shells going out from way out there.  that and a bunch of red cons appearing out of nowhere on dar.


semp
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Kazaa on February 17, 2014, 08:10:09 PM
Bruv119 is a proven cheat. I've seen video of him altering the weight of his own plane.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: LCADolby on February 17, 2014, 08:48:05 PM
Bruv119 is a proven cheat. I've seen video of him altering the weight of his own plane.
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AFK and taking a dump isn't cheating  :old:
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Tinkles on February 17, 2014, 09:01:08 PM
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AFK and taking a dump isn't cheating  :old:

 :rofl
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: MADe on February 17, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
Buy the book:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,358519.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,358519.0.html)

Sorry GC, I meant this one from BE. Trolled thru pages quickly, you had a post in close proximity. It all ran together.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: MADe on February 17, 2014, 09:34:38 PM
Not everyone who pays for multiple accounts is cheating. I pay 44.85 per month, however I only own one account. The other two subs I pay are for friends who wouldn't be flying in game otherwise.



I was commenting on anyone who would pay for multi's for himself only. Nothing wrong with being a pal for good friends. Please do not assume I meant bad tidings for anything else. I was responding to the ops initial post m8.
 :salute
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: BluBerry on February 17, 2014, 09:45:16 PM
I was commenting on anyone who would pay for multi's for himself only. Nothing wrong with being a pal for good friends. Please do not assume I meant bad tidings for anything else. I was responding to the ops initial post m8.
 :salute
:salute
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: MrKrabs on February 17, 2014, 11:00:34 PM
you cannot load the game on an iPad or smart phone.



semp

IF you jailbreak an IPAD you can most certainly can install Aces High...  :old:
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Crash Orange on February 18, 2014, 02:15:14 AM
IF you jailbreak an IPAD you can most certainly can install Aces High...  :old:

Jailbreaking doesn't change the OS.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Megalodon on February 18, 2014, 02:15:56 AM
12 hour rule does not discourage vox PM or text PM.
So people can pass information about the other side freely.

Reduce the 12 hour rule, it is stupid.

 Na get rid of cross country vox and pm would be better... the 12 hour rule should be a 1 camp rule

 :cheers:
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: zack1234 on February 18, 2014, 03:02:13 AM
as usual, lusche is correct.



Hi Kvuo

But why Lusche had to do it :old:

People like to complain now they will have to complain about The Few dumping to lose weight :cry
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: TopGear on February 18, 2014, 07:09:25 AM
There most definitely ARE folk with dual accounts who use one to spy with, one to fly with (I'm thinking of a certain player in particular right now who recently returned to AH, is very often online, but never ever has upped anything).
And I suppose there are lowlifes who tell friends on other teams where CVs are, where an noe mission is going, etc. But it's a tiny minority and imo gameplay is affected minimally.
If spying ever became pervasive--or even if I erroneously thought it was pervasive--I'd stop playing the game. The fun would be gone.

Tour 167 there was a player who had 4 shade accounts,  routinely he has 1 or 2.  Near as I can tell he only uses them to vulch and pad his gv scores with.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Scca on February 18, 2014, 07:52:31 AM
Oh... and most "tricks", like driving in an M3 with troops to a base that doesn't have a direct Gv spawn to it, aren't new either.
My squaddie did that a few months back.  Drove an entire sector, 25 miles...  We took the base too...   :rock :D
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: kvuo75 on February 18, 2014, 08:36:40 AM
I run aces high on my old Motorola star tac.

I know where all your cv's and goons are.

 :noid

Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Changeup on February 18, 2014, 08:51:52 AM
This thread tested positive for very high levels of dumb.
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: ReVo on February 18, 2014, 08:54:31 AM
This thread tested positive for very high levels of dumb.


When the players are complaining about having to engage in combat maybe it's time to go.  :noid
Title: Re: So Called Cheats
Post by: Skuzzy on February 18, 2014, 08:55:01 AM
Locked for violation of forum posting rules #4, and #7.