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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: 1stpar3 on June 27, 2016, 02:53:50 AM
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I have seen so many posts on these issues lately. I understand where most of these issues are troublesome but never a solution, so I have an idea. I am not sure it would be feasible or even how to implement it though. I call it "Put your money where your mouth is".
Here it goes. I guess I will start with the problems first. A lot of players either are or believe they are going to be forced to upgrade systems, that isn't cheap. Many more players seem to lament the loss of players and are doubtful that without a robust advertising campaign it just wont get any better. So, I think this idea would help on both of these main problems. I know the standard finished product is only "two weeks" away lol. In the meantime there is a great opportunity for this to help out. What if, we had a "lottery/ raffle" fund raising program? It works for school athletics, boy scouts and a lot of organizations. Think the raffle part would be 2 birds with one rock type deal. Why? If we had a monthly raffle for lets say, New joysticks, computer components and gift cards maybe even new computers depending on participation of coarse. Would need broad participation to help with the other issue, which is... putting proceeds towards advertising. Pretty sure ads are quite expensive, and its not like Hightech is gouging us on subscription fees. We are getting a brand new game practically and the developers are working their butts of and they don't work for free. So how would they afford to advertise the way most folk would want them to. So if Hightech was open for this and someone could know how to set it up I think this would work. Sorry this was so long a read, now WAKE UP! So what do you guys think about this plan? :aok
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I don't think AH3 requires much computer horsepower.
I have a $400 computer and a $130 graphics card, and I get 55-59 fps with default settings.
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See Rule #4
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As they release further patches the frames have steadily got better...for me at least. Don't think as many would need the computer help as you would think now.
I will stay, first time logged into Beta scared me because of the 4-5 frames I was getting.
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Whilst my 8 year old processor and 4 year old 2gig GFX card can play 40-55 FPS with most details off.
I turned off the reflections aswell yesterday because I'm not convinced I like the cockpit perspex effect. It definitely helped frame rates and just made it look much similar to AH2.
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Whilst my 8 year old processor and 4 year old 2gig GFX card can play 40-55 FPS with most details off.
I turned off the reflections aswell yesterday because I'm not convinced I like the cockpit perspex effect. It definitely helped frame rates and just made it look much similar to AH2.
Yea the scratches and stuff on the cockpit bug me, your looking passed them....shouldn't look like your looking at them.
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Never fly much Junky in older planes?
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Personally, I have no trouble running AH3 either. This was just an idea. Just get tired of reading gripes about the new AH3, mostly from folk who haven't even checked it out. True, most players in the MA aren't on the forums and wont see this post, just had an idea to maybe lessen the financial impact of upgrading, real or perceived.
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Who initially pays for the equipment that you want to raffle, and if it's not out of Hitech's pocket, what is in it for the donors? Will it be philanthropic players pooling new joysticks and mid level graphics cards, or sponsors with their own agendas that are never a free lunch. What will be the legal downsides for HTC if they host this versus it being nonaffiliated advertised on the internet? You can never forget the taxman is watching.
My wife's private university does something like this once a year with the proceeds going to a student grant fund. It's a dinner where alumni, business leaders, associated foundations, media figures, and political figures come for a 4 star dinner then bid on items provided by the university. The university foots the bill for the bid items or they are donated by sources, invitations, a year of meetings to bring in new interested parties, and the dinner. Everyone involved is getting something for their showing up aside from donating money by bidding. Personal exposure, advertising, and networking along with the good will from the community political and media figures need.
Still, a video game is not a university where the interested parties look at a dinner and raffle as worth the donation of money and time for the return in good will and exposure. Granted some of our players are not suffering for disposable income but, what will they get for this if they haven't already located each other and decided they need to give back to this video game to help advertise AH3?
You can start a crowd funding page which has a potential to introduce people to the fact AH even exists. But, once you have those funds, legally can HTC allow you to run an advertising campaign independently of them? You might innocently goof in your messaging and promise the inference of something Hitech has not coded or has no interest in promising. And how will the taxman look at your use of those funds?
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Like I said, I have no idea how to set it up, legally or logistically. I am just looking for a solution to some of the complaints I see voiced in the forums. Personally, I have no problem being philanthropic, its an investment into something I have come to love and enjoy. With enough support it would soon become self funded, I would think.This seemed like a better idea than my other one, which was, I am sure Hightech would accept donations in excess of our subscription fees to be put towards advertising. Like that would ever happen on a mass scale. I was just looking to spark discussion on how to help out. Mainly out of frustration as I see all these complaints and pretty much ZERO ideas to fix any of them. ME personally, I receive way more enjoyment here, than my 15 bucks would get any where else. Just felt a need to try and float an idea out there.
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Whilst my 8 year old processor and 4 year old 2gig GFX card can play 40-55 FPS with most details off.
I turned off the reflections aswell yesterday because I'm not convinced I like the cockpit perspex effect. It definitely helped frame rates and just made it look much similar to AH2.
IN AH2
you can set custom field of view-to adjust how it looks in the cockpit--go to video setting on start up-select custom field of view-I use 100 but you can adjust 45-152-right I think default view is set at 152--I felt scrunched in the cockpit..at 100 it looks more normal--you can set it in AH2 as well
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I have seen so many posts on these issues lately. I understand where most of these issues are troublesome but never a solution, so I have an idea. I am not sure it would be feasible or even how to implement it though. I call it "Put your money where your mouth is".
Here it goes. I guess I will start with the problems first. A lot of players either are or believe they are going to be forced to upgrade systems, that isn't cheap. Many more players seem to lament the loss of players and are doubtful that without a robust advertising campaign it just wont get any better. So, I think this idea would help on both of these main problems. I know the standard finished product is only "two weeks" away lol. In the meantime there is a great opportunity for this to help out. What if, we had a "lottery/ raffle" fund raising program? It works for school athletics, boy scouts and a lot of organizations. Think the raffle part would be 2 birds with one rock type deal. Why? If we had a monthly raffle for lets say, New joysticks, computer components and gift cards maybe even new computers depending on participation of coarse. Would need broad participation to help with the other issue, which is... putting proceeds towards advertising. Pretty sure ads are quite expensive, and its not like Hightech is gouging us on subscription fees. We are getting a brand new game practically and the developers are working their butts of and they don't work for free. So how would they afford to advertise the way most folk would want them to. So if Hightech was open for this and someone could know how to set it up I think this would work. Sorry this was so long a read, now WAKE UP! So what do you guys think about this plan? :aok
We could all get together and put on a show! Forget about all those kids with cancer, lets save a computer game business. It's a business, not a game. If HTC runs it into the ground, that's for them to do. Bad idea, a very bad idea.
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We could all get together and put on a show! Forget about all those kids with cancer, lets save a computer game business. It's a business, not a game. If HTC runs it into the ground, that's for them to do. Bad idea, a very bad idea.
What the heck are you talking about? That has got to be the biggest Nope I am not gonna go there. This was just an idea I had, if you feel the need to be snarky, that's your right. Implying someone cares more about a game than "kids with cancer" was a low blow,and you know it. You don't know me, you don't know what my life situation is either. The attitude you just revealed is the "cancer" in this game. If this reply is against the forum rules, I sincerely apologize. I just couldn't let this go without refuting the inference made in this post.
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We all can word of mouth which Youtube has been the best vehicle for our game. Anything past that where you ask people to make donations of hardware and money, you need to talk to Dale the real CEO of HTC along with looking into the legalities for yourself and for HTC the company.
I trust Hitech has a plan or I wouldn't have stayed with the alpha then beta testing since August 2014.
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What the heck are you talking about? That has got to be the biggest Nope I am not gonna go there. This was just an idea I had, if you feel the need to be snarky, that's your right. Implying someone cares more about a game than "kids with cancer" was a low blow,and you know it. You don't know me, you don't know what my life situation is either. The attitude you just revealed is the "cancer" in this game. If this reply is against the forum rules, I sincerely apologize. I just couldn't let this go without refuting the inference made in this post.
Traveler's just a grouchy old man, like some of the rest of us. Don't take him - or any of the rest of the BBS posters - too seriously. We're talking about a game, after all.
- oldman
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We all can word of mouth which Youtube has been the best vehicle for our game. Anything past that where you ask people to make donations of hardware and money, you need to talk to Dale the real CEO of HTC along with looking into the legalities for yourself and for HTC the company.
I trust Hitech has a plan or I wouldn't have stayed with the alpha then beta testing since August 2014.
Absolutely! I was just looking to have more input on this idea. I am not sure its even doable but wanted to see reactions of players. I am just trying to help out. You guys are pretty much the only non family interaction I have! Long story. Also, not sure of this, but would any advertising cost be a tax credit, like mortgage payments or business expense? I know I didn't think this all the way through but feed back will answer my questions. The reason I thought it could be a tax credit is because I have seen multitudes of people who right off just about anything and get bigger refunds. In my way of thinking, its deceit, but was wondering on what can be used as a tax credit. I missed out on the good ole days, but would really love to experience that. So that's my driving force. Just got tired of seeing so many gripes about this game, with no ideas on how to countermand their perceived notions. I just don't want to lose any of you guys, due to a monetary problem. Also , was thinking only paid subscribers would be able to participate as they are the folk with skin in this game. I also thought about maybe having an option with volunteers willing to pay a bit more more . Income tax returns give an option to donate money to various institutions, I know they are mainly non-profits, but the option is stll there.
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I have to speak up, because I know 1st hand where 1stpar3 is coming from. He has a very generous heart, and has shared with me his hardware just to see if it would help me with my :rolleyes: poor eyesight affliction. He is not alone in this community full of folks far and wide who have time and again shown to be the best part of humanity. I can recall squad mates of one player who gathered together and did major construction repairs on his home after storm damage.
But back to his question, what is it that we can do to respond to the negative clamorings? No one wants to see this community fade, so besides the forums and beta testing how do we keep our compadres engaged?
Discussions along the line of "recommended hardware" have been helpful IMHO towards dispelling myths of the AH3 sky is falling. I like Bustr's suggestion of youtube video infomercials :cool: So, possibly a youtube channel with unofficial or official demonstrations. All of this should be screened properly to insure that it in no way will break our agreement with HTC while beta testing: Mostly, we have been warned not to make comparisons of the work in progress to any final product or assume HTC final product will function in the same way as during beta testing. So, a lot of disclaimers, maybe?
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Yea the scratches and stuff on the cockpit bug me, your looking passed them....shouldn't look like your looking at them.
Never fly much Junky in older planes?
No combat aircraft would have that much crap on the glass unless you were in Africa for 4 years without a re-supply. just because people's current home aircraft look like poo does not mean that a life taking/life saving aircraft would have that many scratches on the plexy. I have seen the lengths to witch the mechanics took care of the glass in the ETO and you can bet they were waxed and clear, because any speck that was on it could block an E/A from view wasting valuable seconds and possibly costing the pilots life.
Now granted dirt and dust would get on it from takeoff, but every aircraft we have now looks like its been in the A.Z. desert for years.
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The YouTube channel idea is cool. In a similar vane, I though it would be cool if there was a way for some enterprising soul(s) to do something like "Red Vs. Blue", like the Halo community has produced. My son just went to a convention in Austin put on by the guys who started RvB, and have now built a whole company and following (with the Halo company's blessing) from humble beginnings. I think you could start with a flash-animation style for the out-of-cockpit scenes (such as they use for the "How It Should Have Ended" videos. If you're familiar with that web series, imagine our intrepid heroes in an O-club (one for the Allies, one for the Axis, kind of like the superheroes' cafe and villain pub scenes in HISHE vids) talking about the mission they just came back from (maybe even before and after scenes). Throw in a good does of humor, then gun-cam footage from the game for the action sequence, interspersed with more cut-scenes from inside the cockpit. Maybe even have two different avatars for each character; for in-game scenes, characters would have dashing Eerol Flynn like avatars, but back in the O-club, they would look like your average AH player's real-life forms...either young, pimply-faced skinny/fat kids, semi-balding over weight folks, or (as in my case) a studly country music singer :D.
A lot of work, but could become an interweb sensation! Any volunteers?
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Never fly much Junky in older planes?
No combat aircraft would have that much crap on the glass unless you were in Africa for 4 years without a re-supply. just because people's current home aircraft look like poo does not mean that a life taking/life saving aircraft would have that many scratches on the plexy. I have seen the lengths to witch the mechanics took care of the glass in the ETO and you can bet they were waxed and clear, because any speck that was on it could block an E/A from view wasting valuable seconds and possibly costing the pilots life.
Now granted dirt and dust would get on it from takeoff, but every aircraft we have now looks like its been in the A.Z. desert for years.
This. I would find it hard to believe that a pilot would be alright with that many scratches in his FOV before he took off to possibly fight for his life.
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The players who will have most problems are those who areu sing a laptop since they can not upgrade the existing hardware.
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The players who will have most problems are those who areu sing a laptop since they can not upgrade the existing hardware.
There are external video card enclosures that laptop users can purchase if they need to upgrade their laptop's video card to run AH3.
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There are external video card enclosures that laptop users can purchase if they need to upgrade their laptop's video card to run AH3.
Never heard these external drives existed. So know that I have heard it, how does that work?
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Never heard these external drives existed. So know that I have heard it, how does that work?
They work like docking stations. It's an external enclosure that you put a video card in and connect to your laptop. The enclosures usually include their own power supplies (i.e. wall socket plug). You just have to do some research to make sure the video card you want will fit in such an external case.
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They work like docking stations. It's an external enclosure that you put a video card in and connect to your laptop. The enclosures usually include their own power supplies (i.e. wall socket plug). You just have to do some research to make sure the video card you want will fit in such an external case.
How do they connect to the laptop though? USB?
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THere is a reason you probably haven't heard of them. http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-core
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Back to the points made about YouTube videos, I wonder why a YouTuber like Froogle has never done a review of AH on his Frooglesim News weekly program.
The guy has 57,000+ subscribers, all flight sim enthusiasts. What great, targeted exposure THAT would be for AH. Unless, he considers it too much of a game and not enough "sim"?
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Never fly much Junky in older planes?
most of all WWII aircraft were less than 2yrs old... some less than a month old..
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Best bet is to buy a premium gaming laptop if you insist on using them.
They cost in the range of 2-3X for a desktop with the same performance.
They are also not upgradable the same way desktops are.
They work like docking stations. It's an external enclosure that you put a video card in and connect to your laptop. The enclosures usually include their own power supplies (i.e. wall socket plug). You just have to do some research to make sure the video card you want will fit in such an external case.
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One of my favorite things about this game is that the player base is a bit older, which tend to lead to a somewhat more mature community than the loli culture that games like war thunder have.
It is also why it amazes me that this community seems to be so upset over having to upgrade. I would imagine that older people usually have more money to spend, since they are farther along in their careers etc. And quite frankly, the hardware needed for this game is not much at all. And yet I keep seeing threads with people asking if they need freaking 970s to run AH3.
And then there is the mentality of some who seem outright flabbergasted that they have to upgrade their museum piece computer and its Pentium 4 processor. I am 26. I was playing this game when I was 14 or 15. It is beyond me how some people think that it is unreasonable to upgrade after such a long period of time. People buy cars more often than that.
The younger generation on the other hand practically vomits if they hear the words "subscription."
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One of my favorite things about this game is that the player base is a bit older, which tend to lead to a somewhat more mature community than the loli culture that games like war thunder have.
This is a very nice thought, but I don't think I buy it. Many of the worst offenders on this BBS are not young people.
- oldman (except, perhaps, in their own minds...)