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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: FESS67 on July 07, 2016, 05:12:52 AM
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Tonight I logged in to see if anything was going on. I was surprised to see a fight so I joined in and soon was into a couple of fights.
My first was a 1 on 1. We turned a little and the enemy then ran. He told me on 200 that I had PW him and he was going home. I said NP and chased him down. 200 came alive :)
Then there was a series of 1 on 1's, getting picked, picking...you know, the usual MA stuff. All was good until I picked a guy who did not take kindly to it. This is a guy we all know and who is classed as one of the better pilots.. 200 came alive again lol - but this time I was lambasted for being this and that and the other......
Sooo, I eventually said...let's DA, you can get your revenge. Silence. I repeated the request gently a few times....Silence.
My point. Guys, if you want to mouth on 200 and someone offers to go to the DA please just back yourself. It would be so much fun. ESPECIALLY if you are one of those pilots who is always giving advice and claiming to be all that.
I would love to see a DA league introduced.......fight for position 1 on 1 and see where you actually rank in the fighter pilot stakes. MA stats are not a true reflection.
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:noid
DA is for weaklings who can't cut it in the anarchic MA :old:
:D :bolt:
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+1 :rofl
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1 v 1 in the DA or AvA is fun, but I always found 1 v 1 in the middle of a furball much more challenging, and the most exciting, but I was never good in the first place.
On the other hand, the DA is a great place to learn, second only to the TA. The AvA has it strong points, especially when the icons are turned off, and it's a great place to learn but again on a different level. When there's a furbal in there, you know you've been in the deep end of the pool.
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yeah let's start a DA league to see who's the number 1 pilot. we'll call it king of the hill, or KOTH for short.
semp
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yeah let's start a DA league to see who's the number 1 pilot. we'll call it king of the hill, or KOTH for short.
semp
There's a terrain just for that but you'll need a special arena for it. :D
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KOTH is not a 1 vs 1 event, never has been for the past 18+ years...just saying
Fess, if you want to do it, you can host a "Dueling Ladder" like Sauerkraut used to host for the AH community..... he had a 1vs1 ladder and a 2 vs 2.... it was a real hoot...
TC
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KOTH is not a 1 vs 1 event, never has been for the past 18+ years...just saying
Fess, if you want to do it, you can host a "Dueling Ladder" like Sauerkraut used to host for the AH community..... he had a 1vs1 ladder and a 2 vs 2.... it was a real hoot...
TC
I'm down for it if people can handle losing like gentlemen. It's always a lot of fun!
KoTH is definitely not 1v1, although it does have times when it's 1v1. KoTH is the ultimate challenge for SA, 1v1, and fighting with multiple enemies at once. It will help your game more than any other event.
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Tonight I logged in to see if anything was going on. I was surprised to see a fight so I joined in and soon was into a couple of fights.
My first was a 1 on 1. We turned a little and the enemy then ran. He told me on 200 that I had PW him and he was going home. I said NP and chased him down. 200 came alive :)
Then there was a series of 1 on 1's, getting picked, picking...you know, the usual MA stuff. All was good until I picked a guy who did not take kindly to it. This is a guy we all know and who is classed as one of the better pilots.. 200 came alive again lol - but this time I was lambasted for being this and that and the other......
Sooo, I eventually said...let's DA, you can get your revenge. Silence. I repeated the request gently a few times....Silence.
My point. Guys, if you want to mouth on 200 and someone offers to go to the DA please just back yourself. It would be so much fun. ESPECIALLY if you are one of those pilots who is always giving advice and claiming to be all that.
I would love to see a DA league introduced.......fight for position 1 on 1 and see where you actually rank in the fighter pilot stakes. MA stats are not a true reflection.
I think it would be awesome to have a scoring league of 1v1 players. They use to have something like that in Halo3. It would be interesting and challenging. That being said, a lot of people just cannot handle losing.
That's why they don't go to the DA. Most people who talk crap on 200 but won't go to the DA, simply aren't that good. Others don't feel like taking the time out of the MA to go to the DA. Many like to try to find places on the MA to 1v1, I think that's pointless.
I've had my moments where people called me out and we went. We had some great fights. Some agaisnt oponents I've never heard of before, like PeeWee, we had some great fights. Always like to 1v1 when the tension is high. It's good practice.
But you are right Fess, I feel like if people are going to talk trash, they should back it up.
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I think it would be awesome to have a scoring league of 1v1 players. They use to have something like that in Halo3. It would be interesting. That being said, a lot of people just cannot handle losing.
That's why they don't go to the DA. Most people who talk crap on 200 but won't go to the DA, simply aren't that good. Others don't feel like taking the time out of the MA to go to the DA. Many like to try to find places on the MA to 1v1, I think that's pointless.
But you are right Fess, I feel like if people are going to talk trash, they should back it up.
I don't like the DA because the merge doesn't represent "the real world" of the MA and ingrains habits that get me killed. Going over to learn ACM (like you and I did one evening) can be productive, but overall I find it (the DA) not all that valuable.
That's just my $0.02 -- YMMV.
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I don't like the DA because the merge doesn't represent "the real world" of the MA and ingrains habits that get me killed. Going over to learn ACM (like you and I did one evening) can be productive, but overall I find it (the DA) not all that valuable.
That's just my $0.02 -- YMMV.
What 2 people decide to do in a duel, verses just having 1 on 1 dogfights in the DA are 2 completely different things......with that said, "The Merge" can be 1 of several hundred different looks.........using the words "The Merge" is not being used properly , that is why I quoted you.
I hope I have explained the difference and that you understand what I am talking about....
hope this helps
TC
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+1 :rofl
That's comedy right there.
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That's comedy right there.
Still smarting I see...
Let it go bruh. You can't win them all. This, too, shall pass.
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What 2 people decide to do in a duel, verses just having 1 on 1 dogfights in the DA are 2 completely different things......with that said, "The Merge" can be 1 of several hundred different looks.........using the words "The Merge" is not being used properly , that is why I quoted you.
I hope I have explained the difference and that you understand what I am talking about....
hope this helps
TC
The standard DA merge is unrealistic. I used the words precisely as I intended.
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The standard DA merge is unrealistic. I used the words precisely as I intended.
Vraciu, Sir, I am not trying to argue with you, only trying to help explain the difference in dog fighting and dueling and the use of "the merge" .........
I started AH in Beta in Oct/Nov 1999, and every since I have started, I have never heard of "The standard DA merge".....
I have dueled with a set merge, and I have flown against others in the DA, regardless of Base/area and have seen uncountable different merge angles......
I really hope you understand the difference, I'm done on this issue, hopefully in this thread....
hope this helps, have a blessed day!
TC
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The standard DA merge is unrealistic. I used the words precisely as I intended.
By "standard merge" do you mean the guys that think any maneuvering before passing the 3-9 line is cheating? If so, I've only ever seen I think 2 people that believed that. For most, other than going above the agreed upon alt, anything goes except for guns cold on the (edit: first) merge. After that it's generally wide open.
Wiley.
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By "standard merge" do you mean the guys that think any maneuvering before passing the 3-9 line is cheating? If so, I've only ever seen I think 2 people that believed that. For most, other than going above the agreed upon alt, anything goes except for guns cold on the merge.
The merge has nothing to do with it. He avoids the DA because that would require him to back up his mouth.
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Vraciu, Sir, I am not trying to argue with you, only trying to help explain the difference in dog fighting and dueling and the use of "the merge" .........
I started AH in Beta in Oct/Nov 1999, and every since I have started, I have never heard of "The standard DA merge".....
I have dueled with a set merge, and I have flown against others in the DA, regardless of Base/area and have seen uncountable different merge angles......
I really hope you understand the difference, I'm done on this issue, hopefully in this thread....
hope this helps, have a blessed day!
TC
I said what I meant. I meant what I said.
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The merge has nothing to do with it. He avoids the DA because that would require him to back up his mouth.
Says the guy who got his rear handed to him in the MA despite an E advantage.
Derp.
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By "standard merge" do you mean the guys that think any maneuvering before passing the 3-9 line is cheating? If so, I've only ever seen I think 2 people that believed that. For most, other than going above the agreed upon alt, anything goes except for guns cold on the (edit: first) merge. After that it's generally wide open.
Wiley.
It is always the same thing. Meet co-alt, same E state. Same fuel state. Same weapons load out.
That was helpful early on in my "career" but now, not so much. The MA almost never plays out that way.
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The Duel is a test of pilot and plane on equal terms.
The DA, a place where a one time enemies can become great friends after a good dance across the sky.
Only a fragile ego would never dare enter the Gentleman's sport of Duelling with a worthy opponent.
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The Duel is a test of pilot and plane on equal terms.
The DA, a place where a one time enemies can become great friends after a good dance across the sky.
Only a fragile ego would never dare enter the Gentleman's sport of Duelling with a worthy opponent.
Nah. It's boring.
But yes, friends are usually made there, no question.
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Nah. It's boring.
But yes, friends are usually made there, no question.
Yeah it's boring, til you've done enough duels and realize "Hey, everything I've learned in these duels translates extremely well to every other situation I'm in! Wow I'm really becoming a better pilot!" That's when duels become some of the most fun you're going to have in a flight sim.
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Yeah it's boring, til you've done enough duels and realize "Hey, everything I've learned in these duels translates extremely well to every other situation I'm in! Wow I'm really becoming a better pilot!" That's when duels become some of the most fun you're going to have in a flight sim.
When I want to learn something specific duels are fine.
As for learning, in general, I do that in the MA plenty. It's a tougher environment with far more variables.
I'm "DA'ed out".
To each his own. Back to the OP's topic. I did not intend to hijack his thread.
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nvm
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Hitech provided different arenas for exactly what FESS did to find fun. The bills are being paid and FESS along with some like minded players had "FUN" for their $14.95. The DA is not the MA and the MA is not the DA. Different kinds of fun.
And Krup's observation about learning, the DA is the TA's Masters thru PhD program if you were to logically follow the training BFM\ACM\SA path and not the combat immersion path into the MA and then SEA\AvA.
No one is wrong here as long as no one try's to belittle the other for their choice of fun. Once you start into that, you are admitting you come here for the sole purpose of being offended to grant yourself the right to revenge by verbally abusing others for not choosing to play this game your way.
Be careful that you understand "bully" is defined by forcing others into a fight both of you know they have no chance to win and could have walked or run away from. Even if you assure them you are doing them a favor while you know you are manipulating them. The manipulation is very obvious.
You pay $14.95, you have the right to fight of not fight any way you want. You don't have the right to force others to conform to your understanding of the game. That is where the vast majority of these posts end up with everyone trying to verbally exact revenge.
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Hitech provided different arenas for exactly what FESS did to find fun. The bills are being paid and FESS along with some like minded players had "FUN" for their $14.95. The DA is not the MA and the MA is not the DA. Different kinds of fun.
And Krup's observation about learning, the DA is the TA's Masters thru PhD program if you were to logically follow the training BFM\ACM\SA path and not the combat immersion path into the MA and then SEA\AvA.
No one is wrong here as long as no one try's to belittle the other for their choice of fun. Once you start into that, you are admitting you come here for the sole purpose of being offended to grant yourself the right to revenge by verbally abusing others for not choosing to play this game your way.
Be careful that you understand "bully" is defined by forcing others into a fight both of you know they have no chance to win and could have walked or run away from. Even if you assure them you are doing them a favor while you know you are manipulating them. The manipulation is very obvious.
You pay $14.95, you have the right to fight of not fight any way you want. You don't have the right to force others to conform to your understanding of the game. That is where the vast majority of these posts end up with everyone trying to verbally exact revenge.
Excellent reply / post
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Let's bring this back on track.
The idea is that we have some sort of duelling / 1 on 1 league. The exact details can be tweaked and worked on but my preference would be something like:
- Players sign up for the league
- The league is ranked - initially this would have to be on perception of skill level
- Players from the lower rungs of the ladder get to challenge players higher on the ladder - it could be all the way to the top or maybe just 2 or 3 places above
- Aircraft type and load out would need to be the same in the first iterations.
- Rankings are decided on who beat who.....pretty simple
- I am in favour of air spawns at random heights to add the 'chance encounter' element to the fight as well.
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FEES's dueling league is in session. A well spent $14.95 for his type of fun.
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I love the DA. I wish it was still swinging. In my experience, the only time a 1vs1 is boring is when it's a lopsided contest.
I won't participate in a grudge match, or try to satisfy someone's misplaced frustrations though. Being challenged by recently-vulched shade isn't something anyone should entertain. If it's a familiar handle and a polite invitation, I wouldn't hesitate.
We need BALDEAGLE to get his tourney bubbling again. Or INK to re-ignite the Dueling League.
Simon
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I'm down, Fess. Sounds like a great idea.
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someone starts a thread about getting duels going but a bunch show up to tell everyone that they dont like DA good then stay the hell outa the thread and let those who aint afraid to fight post. but then when you see who they are its the typical trolls that is in every thread trying to get the post count up and be a menace to anyone they can.
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someone starts a thread about getting duels going but a bunch show up to tell everyone that they dont like DA good then stay the hell outa the thread and let those who aint afraid to fight post. but then when you see who they are its the typical trolls that is in every thread trying to get the post count up and be a menace to anyone they can.
What? You can reduce my post count and I'll be VERY happy about it. This doesn't sound like the Biggamer I remember!
Are you the same guy from the 2005 era?
Edit for clarification.
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Fishy, Dolby, you guys mad? It stinks of butthurt in here. :x
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The standard DA merge is a co-E head on no shot merge. There is nothing unrealistic about it. It's used in real pilot training with the addition of a minimum lateral offset to prevent collisions. It isn't common in the late war main arena but it can happen there too.
In competition dueling the merge is spelled out in the rules and is usually an altitude ceiling, maneuver as you like when you see the bandit icon, and no shot until after the first pass.
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Disregard.
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The standard DA merge is a co-E head on no shot merge. There is nothing unrealistic about it. It's used in real pilot training with the addition of a minimum lateral offset to prevent collisions. It isn't common in the late war main arena but it can happen there too.
In competition dueling the merge is spelled out in the rules and is usually an altitude ceiling, maneuver as you like when you see the bandit icon, and no shot until after the first pass.
It is completely unrealistic for what is encountered in the MA.
If you had some other anecdotal experience in the MA that's great. I suggest it is the exception not the rule.
The DA has its purpose, but for me it is a snooze fest.
It's your $15 just like it's mine. I prefer the MA.
I hope the OP gets what he is looking for as I know how frustrating it is during his peak flying time.
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Fishy, Dolby, you guys mad? It stinks of butthurt in here. :x
No, I just added a dash of cynicism and an ounce of truth.
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Nvm.
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It is completely unrealistic for what is encountered in the MA.
If you had some other anecdotal experience in the MA that's great. I suggest it is the exception not the rule.
The DA has its purpose, but for me it is a snooze fest.
It's your $15 just like it's mine. I prefer the MA.
I hope the OP gets what he is looking for as I know how frustrating it is during his peak flying time.
The point of the thread seems to be to have fun in the DA. I don't see the relevance of it's utility in the MA although I would argue that since it's good training it's useful in any arena.
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The point of the thread seems to be to have fun in the DA. I don't see the relevance of it's utility in the MA although I would argue that since it's good training it's useful in any arena.
My point is.....for me.....personally....it creates bad habits that do not bode well for success in the MA.
YMMV.
To each his own.
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Guys he is going to squat on your post until he makes this untenable for you to communicate in. Skyyr had that habit. Wonder if he is letting skyyr use his account while he is out of the country...
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wow - more fighting goes on in the BBS than the MA!!
V - I am happy for you to join in and have a 5k alt advantage to make it more like the MA. It will help the rest of us in our defensive moves.
So far we have:
Fess
bustr
Fisbait
Simon?
Any more takers?
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Guys he is going to squat on your post until he makes this untenable for you to communicate in. Skyyr had that habit. Wonder if he is letting skyyr use his account while he is out of the country...
Look, if Chicken Little and Co. are gonna' keep attacking me with lies don't expect me to just sit here and take it. How about showing some class and asking them to put a sock in it? I have tried to step out of this thread three times only to be repeatedly smeared. Not cool.
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wow - more fighting goes on in the BBS than the MA!!
V - I am happy for you to join in and have a 5k alt advantage to make it more like the MA. It will help the rest of us in our defensive moves.
So far we have:
Fess
bustr
Fisbait
Simon?
Any more takers?
Well, I might actually learn something THAT way. :aok
Seriously, though, I will holler at you when I am back in the land of the big PX. Maybe I will join in.
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The standard DA merge is unrealistic. I used the words precisely as I intended.
:headscratch: A head on merge "standard DA merge" would result in a Head On shot in the real world, maybe in the MA :neener: . In the DA The HO shot is withdrawn on the first merge and a gentlemens agreement to not HO holds after. The entire idea of a fair fight is non-existent in the real world and MA. Only under gamey rules in the DA do we start to have equal chances of winning. :old:
PS The Head On shot is the REAL DUEL! :old: :old: :old: :joystick: :joystick: :airplane: :airplane:
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The standard DA merge is unrealistic.
As already pointed out by TC there is no "standard" DA merge except guns cold.
I don't like the DA because the merge doesn't represent "the real world" of the MA and ingrains habits that get me killed.
Learning to merge in the DA is directly translatable to success in the MA. The only habit you could possibly unlearn is the HO.
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FESS, may I make a suggestion, Sir....
You posted something regarding possibly needing to initially rank participants via their perceived skill level...
I recommend setting up your "Dueling Ladder" to where anyone who signs up is coming in to the event on an even/equal status, which would be "Not Ranked"....the dueling ladder itself will provide the ranking all by itself, and everyone signed up knows going in that everyone is starting off on the same terms!
Hope this helps
TC
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As already pointed out by TC there is no "standard" DA merge except guns cold.
Yes, there is. Co-E. Cold guns. Equal fuel. Same armament package. No chance of someone coming in for a pick.
Totally not what is seen in the MA.
That's my perspective and you are free to disagree.
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Yes, there is. Co-E. Cold guns. Equal fuel. Same armament package. No chance of someone coming in for a pick.
Totally not what is seen in the MA.
That's my perspective and you are free to disagree.
There are many merges seen in a duel that are not Co-E. Some people use WEP, others throttle down, some use a diving merge, others go for lateral offset.
If you think a pick is a merge you might want to study ACM.
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There are many merges seen in a duel...
Not the point.
If you think a pick is a merge you might want to study ACM.
I never said I did.
Go back and re-read.
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Not the point.
But it was the first thing you pointed to:
"Yes, there is. Co-E. Cold guns. Equal fuel. Same armament package."
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The DA and 1v1s in general with a same plane setup are by far the best way to improve as a pilot in AH in my opinion. The fight/time ratio is unmatched and the skills you pick up in there will be invaluable in the MA. Obviously there are elements of an MA environment that the DA cannot reproduce, but having a solid foundation in duels and dogfighting will get you pretty far.
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Feel free to join a few of us tomorrow night 7pm-9pm EST. We have a 5,000 km cap tomorrow and using the death valley area (sec. 8.8 to 8.11 if I'm not mistaken).
We use vox 237, and have a great time. We average 15-20 players during that period time.
We meet every Sunday same time and bounce around the sub-arena's
Hopefully you'll give it a shot. Its great fun.
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FESS, may I make a suggestion, Sir....
You posted something regarding possibly needing to initially rank participants via their perceived skill level...
I recommend setting up your "Dueling Ladder" to where anyone who signs up is coming in to the event on an even/equal status, which would be "Not Ranked"....the dueling ladder itself will provide the ranking all by itself, and everyone signed up knows going in that everyone is starting off on the same terms!
Hope this helps
TC
That's a great idea TC. Thanks for the input! Hope Fess adopts it, but either way I'm good.
Since we all got our #4s out of the way, maybe we can salvage this thread and not piss on Fess's good work (sorry for my part in that, Fess). Hopefully those not interested in participating or providing valuable recommendations will bow out gracefully so we can continue the discussion.
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The DA and 1v1s in general with a same plane setup are by far the best way to improve as a pilot in AH in my opinion. The fight/time ratio is unmatched and the skills you pick up in there will be invaluable in the MA. Obviously there are elements of an MA environment that the DA cannot reproduce, but having a solid foundation in duels and dogfighting will get you pretty far.
QFT
The problem with a ladder is...
1. Agreement on the rules(someone has to take charge and they need some backing from the community)
2. Participation, a lot say they want to participate but then miss their duels so it ends up being a bunch of forfeits which is no fun for anyone.
3. Lack of a judge/witness during a contest. Many have had similar turd experiences in the DA an FM2 pilot went to the DA with me once and was diving in prior to icon range to have an E advantage....did it again with someone watching and all the sudden he didn't know what to do :aok (Someone cheating/griefing in the DA should be flattering...means their afraid of your Skillz)
The best way IMO is to have a dueling ladder "night" where someone watches all the duels and the rules are set prior to...no exceptions....changes can be made later if the majority of participants want the change....Kind of like KOTH (DISCLAIMER: KOTH is not a 1v1 event, it is better classified as a Battle Royal...last man standing wins but at the same time there are a lot of 1v1s which happen at different E states so you have to have SA and knowledge of ACM to win....still have yet to see a pilot win a KOTH who I didn't think couldn't pull it out...a lot of people are afraid to come out for KOTH because they believe it has a lot of ego but truly it gets squashed fast)
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But it was the first thing you pointed to:
"Yes, there is. Co-E. Cold guns. Equal fuel. Same armament package."
Yep.
That's the standard that 99 percent of duelers encounter/employ.
And the fact is the airplanes start at an identical weight with identical potential E. Never happens in the MA.
So it is unrealistic from my perspective.
You're welcome to your opinion on the matter with which I will disagree.
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The DA and 1v1s in general with a same plane setup are by far the best way to improve as a pilot in AH in my opinion. The fight/time ratio is unmatched and the skills you pick up in there will be invaluable in the MA. Obviously there are elements of an MA environment that the DA cannot reproduce, but having a solid foundation in duels and dogfighting will get you pretty far.
Good points. Can't disagree with the logic behind them. However, at this stage I learn more in the MA through trial and error. Maybe that will change in time. :salute
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That's a great idea TC. Thanks for the input! Hope Fess adopts it, but either way I'm good.
Since we all got our #4s out of the way, maybe we can salvage this thread and not piss on Fess's good work (sorry for my part in that, Fess). Hopefully those not interested in participating or providing valuable recommendations will bow out gracefully so we can continue the discussion.
I am curious as to what Fess proposes for the setup.
Planes?
Number of duels?
Schedule?
I admit to being interested. Could be a good learning experience.
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Yep.
That's the standard that 99 percent of duelers encounter/employ.
And the fact is the airplanes start at an identical weight with identical potential E. Never happens in the MA.
So it is unrealistic from my perspective.
You're welcome to your opinion on the matter with which I will disagree.
you will sell yourself short if you do not master the fine art of stall fighting when every second of every decision you make is aiding or dismembering your chances of life or death, and there is nowhere to RUN! :old:
Just saying. :joystick:
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you will sell yourself short if you do not master the fine art of stall fighting when every second of every decision you make is aiding or dismembering your chances of life or death, and there is nowhere to RUN! :old:
Just saying. :joystick:
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I am plenty good at stall fighting. That's not what I am deficient at.
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Ok, you now need to master killing a equal foe without stall fighting! :old:
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Ok, you now need to master killing a equal foe without stall fighting! :old:
True that. :cheers:
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I am curious as to what Fess proposes for the setup.
Planes?
Number of duels?
Schedule?
I admit to being interested. Could be a good learning experience.
Heya Vraciu,
FESS, as far as I know has not set any rules or requirements, etc into stone yet, he only made possible suggestions from what I read in his opening posts......
FESS, here is a link to the Dueling Ladder software, that Saurkraut used back when he hosted the Aces High Dueling Ladder/League for the Aces High Community for like 3 or so years back around like 2003/04 thru I think 2006/07.... ( my mind fades on the actual dates )
link to the software: http://mygamingladder.com/ladder.shtml ( Home Website: http://www.mygamingladder.com/ )
I myself had purchased a copy of this ( which is a lifetime license, btw ) back I think around spring time of 2012, and was going to let Ink and Shane use it in the DFC club......... I had to go find my license info again, and now I will prob have to call or email the company since I had spme computer trouble that lost everyting........
This ladder is exactly what you ned to make this thing work, and make it to where everyone is on equal playing terms at registration......
shoot me a pm if you got any questions, or anything.......
This setup, that SauKhraut ( of Dux and Ghosth's 332nd squadron ) hosted, at one time had nearly 85 different players signed up........ and everyone went my the way the rules were laid out, and noone ever balked at anything........
if I recall correctly, Skuzzy ( HTC ) even had set up the Dueling Ladder's on seperate forum here on the BBS, but it faded out during the switching of the versions from AH to AH2, iirc
Hope This Helps
TC
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Thanks TC,
I think at this early stage I am really just trying to gauge interest. Hard to do that through all the noise in the thread now, but that noise does pretty much sum up why I think the ladder would be a good thing - take the fights into the game and less on the boards.
Will look at the into you posted. Thanks again.
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A one night dueling event like Junky mentioned might be a good idea. It's hard to get a lot of people to join in one night, buts even harder to get a group of people to set times to duel during the week. I too disliked the amount of drop outs, and also the ego building it created throughout the month. I think a dueling night that is regulated, like KoTH, would work the best.
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Are you guys seeking a night full of true "duels," or just 1v1 fights? I personally like the nights where a bunch of decent sticks get fed up with the MA and pick a field in the DA and go at it 1v1... We generally try to keep it reasonably fair, but different planes are fine, different fuel is fine, somewhat different energy states are fine, etc..
All it really takes to keep it civil is for winners to acknowledge if they started with an advantage and losers to acknowledge the winners did a nice job of keeping it.
I think the more structured you make it, the less interesting it is.
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Are you guys seeking a night full of true "duels," or just 1v1 fights? I personally like the nights where a bunch of decent sticks get fed up with the MA and pick a field in the DA and go at it 1v1... We generally try to keep it reasonably fair, but different planes are fine, different fuel is fine, somewhat different energy states are fine, etc..
All it really takes to keep it civil is for winners to acknowledge if they started with an advantage and losers to acknowledge the winners did a nice job of keeping it.
I think the more structured you make it, the less interesting it is.
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I'm all about those informal nights in the DA, I was just talking about if there was an interest in a formal dueling ladder again I think that would be the best way to do it.
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the last DFC ladder was working ok but it did suffer from guys missing time slots etc and backing out of fights they knew they wouldn't win.
I just say come along to KOTH you will be surprised with the sportsmanship and laid back atmosphere. I can't really play as host, so won't dominate everyone and it really does give the best of both worlds in dueling / MA furball experience.
Friday KOTH will be held Friday, 22nd July at 3pm EDT, 8pm BST, 9pm CET in the SEA II arena.
Saturday KOTH will be held 23rd July at 3pm EDT, 8pm BST, 9pm CET in the SEA II arena.
If the event is short then we could always have some practice fun afterwards.
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So just show up to KOTH or do we have to RSVP?
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Are you guys seeking a night full of true "duels," or just 1v1 fights? I personally like the nights where a bunch of decent sticks get fed up with the MA and pick a field in the DA and go at it 1v1... We generally try to keep it reasonably fair, but different planes are fine, different fuel is fine, somewhat different energy states are fine, etc..
All it really takes to keep it civil is for winners to acknowledge if they started with an advantage and losers to acknowledge the winners did a nice job of keeping it.
I think the more structured you make it, the less interesting it is.
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I believe this is more like what Fess originally was getting at...we did this the night of the post...We moved over a little late and didn't spend a whole lot of time there but what we did have was great...it is always good to fight and have feed back during the fight.... prolongs the fights and teaches small nuances that you may be overlooking when fighting in the bustle (when there is bustle in our time zone) of the MA... these impromptu are always great fun...and as the person who was asked to join us but chose not to would find....we are all the same in reality....
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So just show up to KOTH or do we have to RSVP?
just show up before start.
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I can't really play as host, so won't dominate everyone
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KOTH is the place to see where you stack up and to get better. Many sticks have thought they were succesfull fighter sticks until they came in there and figured out they can get a lot better....and if you're willing to learn, they're plenty that attend KOTH who will help you out with ACM.....especially in 1v1 fighting. Sooner or later you will end up winning a round and after that we'll be chasing you around as a wabbited until you get that first win. It is by far the most challenging thing to do when a bunch of the regulars are in there but if friendly competition is what you are looking for...KOTH is where you should be.
Battle Royale de Aces High
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and for fess and tongs our new KOTH CM will be hosting pacific friendly times. + or - an ocean.