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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: FESS67 on August 05, 2016, 01:25:25 AM
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Tired of it. That is all, just pure frustration coming out, nothing else.
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eny is extreme in recent times. squads moving or simply playing makes big changes. each fight is influenced more by local numbers vs global numbers. sometimes. :bolt: :old:
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ENY kills a side when it is the only side being engaged by the other two countries.
Personally I don't mind fighting them on both fronts and they are not fighting each other anywhere on the board. But often times it is difficult to up EW planes against the cannon monsters everyone seems to enjoy...
It is frustrating.
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It REALLY stinks. Bish are saddled with 20+ almost every morning, EDT.
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ENY kills a side when it is the only side being engaged by the other two countries.
Personally I don't mind fighting them on both fronts and they are not fighting each other anywhere on the board. But often times it is difficult to up EW planes against the cannon monsters everyone seems to enjoy...
It is frustrating.
Be a man fly the 109 E or F brother. Über perk farming right there. Or the P38G ;)
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Be a man fly the 109 E or F brother. Über perk farming right there. Or the P38G ;)
Only Uber perks when your side has the low numbers already.. If you're on the high side, you get less perks
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Be a man fly the 109 E or F brother. Über perk farming right there. Or the P38G ;)
There was a perk farmer who flew a dog,
And ENY was his name-o.
E-N-E-N-Y
E-N-E-N-Y
E-N-E-N-Y
And ENY was his name-o.
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There was a perk farmer who flew a dog,
And ENY was his name-o.
E-N-E-N-Y
E-N-E-N-Y
E-N-E-N-Y
And ENY was his name-o.
Still fun to fly :neener:
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la5 or mossies are sweet rides.
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I usually switch to the low numbers team, so it doesnt bother me. If there are no fights and I cant switch, I log off.
Ive been on all countries for a time period of years. Started bish, then rook, and most recently knit. Ive found that if i try to stay on one country exclusively, I probably wouldnt still be playing due to lack of action. Not a big deal to me really, they are all the same.
I dont think I am the first person to experience this.
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I Just get in the old D-11 and all is good. When I was a loner I simply switched sides.
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See Rule #4
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ENY is a good opportunity to get out of the easy late war monster rides and really show off your skills in a midwar or early war aircraft.
One of the things you will find is that you'll have much better fights when you come across another midwar or early war aircraft, they really are where the joy of ACM lay.
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The problem is ENY. The problem is Knit bedtime.
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In sympathy with the OP, Perth, WA is Western Australia, not Washington state (also abbreviated as WA in US postal code.)
In line with the other posts, old planes need love, too. Up a P-40C or a P-39D and any success is very rewarding. The high ENY side should have the numbers. Gang bang away.
My personal preference in the ENY = 20 range is a Yak-9. Similar guns and ammo to -109s. Same small target. Better visibility.
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The same old responses, however the OP is a pony pilot for the most part so switching to another plane isn't a fun idea for him. Also, with the time limits at 6 hours switching doesn't work well for his time period either.
All of these "replies" are fine but if you PAY to fly your favorite plane and it isn't available when you get the chance to play, why PAY any more? This is what I think has his "frustration" level up.
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ENY does not bother me at all, I just up my F4u-1 or ki61, don't forget the D-11, 38G, la5 or the 109 series.
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or Switch sides?!
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I love flying the pony and only the pony. but earlier in the month when knights had eny way up there, i found the d11. damn I thought to myself this flies like a spitfire and has more punch with unlimited ammo. it was fun.
semp
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ENY does not bother me at all, I just up my F4u-1 or ki61, don't forget the D-11, 38G, la5 or the 109 series.
Or the 190A5 which is a super fun plane to fly.
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I usually fly the D40 when ENY gets high but as Fugitive says, I prefer to have fun in a 51.
I had changed sides some while before so was unable to change back.
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I love flying the pony and only the pony. but earlier in the month when knights had eny way up there, i found the d11. damn I thought to myself this flies like a spitfire and has more punch with unlimited ammo. it was fun.
semp
I went 31-0 in the P51 last tour :devil. Fun bird, Fun bird.
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I went 31-0 in the P51 last tour :devil. Fun bird, Fun bird.
I did even better, 1000-0 against ack. against airplanes it was 0-1000 but I had a lot of fun :).
semp
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Hardship is good for the soul. The beauty is in the seat of being outside ones comfort. The sensation of winning with something few would use is priceless. For everything else there is mastercard.
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Hardship is good for the soul. The beauty is in the seat of being outside ones comfort. The sensation of winning with something few would use is priceless. For everything else there is mastercard.
He probably used his Mastercard when he signed up for a game he wants to fly a P51D in...
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All of these "replies" are fine but if you PAY to fly your favorite plane and it isn't available when you get the chance to play, why PAY any more?
Without meaning to make fun of you, Fug, this is silly. What if my favorite plane is the Tempest or the B-29? Or the 262 or Komet? Hey, I'm PAYING to fly those, but I can't unless I suffer forever to get enough perks.
- oldman
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I wonder if you ever played Monopoly or Risk. What rules did you want to change in those games to favor you?
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The large bish number of players of late have really upset the balance in the game.
That is why the eny persist.
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The large bish number of players of late have really upset the balance in the game.
That is why the eny persist.
I've seen the numbers swing wildly in just a couple of hours. Enough to where I was in EW planes. Plenty of those to choose from. I just grab one and go find the fight or switch sides and take my regular MW ride and find the fight.
Either way I am flying my imaginary WWII aircraft against others doing the same.
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Without meaning to make fun of you, Fug, this is silly. What if my favorite plane is the Tempest or the B-29? Or the 262 or Komet? Hey, I'm PAYING to fly those, but I can't unless I suffer forever to get enough perks.
- oldman
oh I understand, Im just playing the devils advocate here in this. Personally I fly pretty much anything there is so it really doesn't bother me. The point however is the situation, which seems to have gotten worst with the lower population is causing MORE players to leave. With many gone now, why leave something in place that can potentially chase more players away?
I wonder if you ever played Monopoly or Risk. What rules did you want to change in those games to favor you?
I don't know about you, but I don't pay $15 a month to play Monopoly or Risk. Those games also have a tight set of rules with a finite set of players, where AH is a big sandbox with shall we say "guide lines" and pretty much an unlimited number of players. In the board games you CAN do only certain things or NOT do certain things where as in AH your pretty much allowed to do anything. The problem comes about when your paying $15 a month to be able to do that thing you want and your not allowed to by ENY or a switch time restriction. Why continue to PAY $15?
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I don't know about you, but I don't pay $15 a month to play Monopoly or Risk. Those games also have a tight set of rules with a finite set of players, where AH is a big sandbox with shall we say "guide lines" and pretty much an unlimited number of players. In the board games you CAN do only certain things or NOT do certain things where as in AH your pretty much allowed to do anything. The problem comes about when your paying $15 a month to be able to do that thing you want and your not allowed to by ENY or a switch time restriction. Why continue to PAY $15?
Bingo.
Before I get slammed, I'm not saying I think anything should be changed. But I understand the OP's frustration and do not understand the reactions of some to it.
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oh I understand, Im just playing the devils advocate here in this. Personally I fly pretty much anything there is so it really doesn't bother me. The point however is the situation, which seems to have gotten worst with the lower population is causing MORE players to leave. With many gone now, why leave something in place that can potentially chase more players away?
I don't know about you, but I don't pay $15 a month to play Monopoly or Risk. Those games also have a tight set of rules with a finite set of players, where AH is a big sandbox with shall we say "guide lines" and pretty much an unlimited number of players. In the board games you CAN do only certain things or NOT do certain things where as in AH your pretty much allowed to do anything. The problem comes about when your paying $15 a month to be able to do that thing you want and your not allowed to by ENY or a switch time restriction. Why continue to PAY $15?
I like where your argument is going > "I don't pay $15 to be repeatedly HO'd or gangbanged when I want to get a fight."
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I like where your argument is going > "I don't pay $15 to be repeatedly HO'd or gangbanged when I want to get a fight."
ease up on the ankle bud, I never said anything about HOin or ganging. I'm pointing out issues I believe the OP is frustrated with..... along with many other, ENY and side switch restrictions.
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ease up on the ankle bud, I never said anything about HOin or ganging. I'm pointing out issues I believe the OP is frustrated with..... along with many other, ENY and side switch restrictions.
Ankle? no, just the weak ground of your argument... you didn't need to mention HOin or ganging, that's the point.
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Bingo.
Before I get slammed, I'm not saying I think anything should be changed. But I understand the OP's frustration and do not understand the reactions of some to it.
Its the simple approach of "I dont care, i just wanted to say no." Is all i can see.
I have seen many many people log off due to ENY or side switching limitations. As said before they are at this point working against eachother.
And guess what, when people log due this, repeatedly, eventually they will log for good.
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Bingo.
Before I get slammed, I'm not saying I think anything should be changed. But I understand the OP's frustration and do not understand the reactions of some to it.
You are not going to get slammed participating. You did earlier for advertising. Although it seems that those who watch the boards do not mind folks coming here to advertise.
My point about the game is it can't be changed to please everyone. Adjust to the game and you will have more fun. Learn to fly an older model plane. You'll be surprised how that will improve your skill set. You can switch to the low number side, which is part of what eny is there to do.
If you will not switch sides, everyone can, then ask if someone else can or will.
The 80th will be all over the place sometimes. We will usually always switch to the lower number side without anyone asking. Sometimes we switch and still can't find a fight.
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You are not going to get slammed participating. You did earlier for advertising. Although it seems that those who watch the boards do not mind folks coming here to advertise.
You really need to frequent other forums if you think what I did, and will continue to do as the situation warrants, consitutes advertising. As I have said elsewhere, I have no need to do so because those games do not have a shortage of players.
As for the rest, at the end of the day each person will judge for themselves if they agree with your views about adjusting to the game and improving their skill set by flying something do not wish to. I hope you are right.
Its the simple approach of "I dont care, i just wanted to say no." Is all i can see.
I have seen many many people log off due to ENY or side switching limitations. As said before they are at this point working against eachother.
And guess what, when people log due this, repeatedly, eventually they will log for good.
Exactly.
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Ankle? no, just the weak ground of your argument... you didn't need to mention HOin or ganging, that's the point.
Weak ground???? People are leaving because of this issue. You your self left, or so you said here....
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,380544.msg5069269.html#msg5069269
"I swapped to IL2 BoS as a filler between now and AH3s completion. No time restrictions on side swapping and the numbers are 3 times that of AH2 in our timezone. It might be worth giving it a look."
"numbers" and "no time restrictions". Looks like your only posting to hump my ankle.
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You really need to frequent other forums if you think what I did, and will continue to do as the situation warrants, consitutes advertising. As I have said elsewhere, I have no need to do so because those games do not have a shortage of players.
As for the rest, at the end of the day each person will judge for themselves if they agree with your views about adjusting to the game and improving their skill set by flying something do not wish to. I hope you are right.
Exactly.
Advertising is advertising. I have no reason to go to other game sites.
I do go to off-road, 4WD, and jeep sites. But I get into discussions about those things and do not advertise other sites.
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Weak ground???? People are leaving because of this issue. You your self left, or so you said here....
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,380544.msg5069269.html#msg5069269
"I swapped to IL2 BoS as a filler between now and AH3s completion. No time restrictions on side swapping and the numbers are 3 times that of AH2 in our timezone. It might be worth giving it a look."
"numbers" and "no time restrictions". Looks like your only posting to hump my ankle.
I didn't swap because of ENY, those are comparisons to help another player's issues out.
You're jumping to ankle humping simply because you cant refute that your argument is ridiculous. I can apply the same to HOing, Ganging, getting killed, and any other thing I so wish. Get a proper argument and stop looking so bloody daft, then you wont have to clutch so strong at the "ankle" line.
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I didn't swap because of ENY, those are comparisons to help another player's issues out.
You're jumping to ankle humping simply because you cant refute that your argument is ridiculous. I can apply the same to HOing, Ganging, getting killed, and any other thing I so wish. Get a proper argument and stop looking so bloody daft, then you wont have to clutch so strong at the "ankle" line.
And again for the reading impaired, I said nothing about the above bolded section. I just pointed out another reason...... that could be fixed with some minor adjustments..... why players are leaving. And at a time when the numbers are low already, why chase more away?
You reading in any other "agenda" is just that, YOU. I say what I say, and mean what I say, always. Some may not like it, but at least Im honest in what I say.
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And again for the reading impaired, I said nothing about the above bolded section. I just pointed out another reason...... that could be fixed with some minor adjustments..... why players are leaving. And at a time when the numbers are low already, why chase more away?
You reading in any other "agenda" is just that, YOU. I say what I say, and mean what I say, always. Some may not like it, but at least Im honest in what I say.
You argument is "I pay $15..." etc. this is what I jumped at because it can be applied to anything and everything; for example "I pay $15 a month to fly, getting killed stops me from flying. Therefore remove death from the game". See what I am getting at this time?
What you are saying is that you want to remove balance and let the more numerous players take up P51Ds and bang the less numerous. ENY restricts better airframes of the more numerous side to help the lower numbered side.
Lets have a little math game, LW airframe has 10 attack power and a MW 5ap.
Which example is more balanced for gamplay;
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10 LW Vs 5 LW
100ap Vs 50ap
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10MW Vs 5LW
50ap Vs 50ap
If you remove ENY the landslide victories of the numerous force people to log off of the lower numbered side. They can only take so many gangbangs. With ENY they stand a better chance with an aircraft advantage. Let me use your "$15" argument; They don't pay $15 to get repeatedly blown away by the bigger numbers in the best aircraft. They might just keep paying and playing with if they have a better chance with balancing airframes to the enemies numbers.
If affected by ENY and are upset you cant fly your LW ride, you have 2 other countries to switch to or 100 odd aircraft to fly in to await ENY to not have an effect on you or your aircraft. ENY sets in, it's a minor inconvenience for a short time, get over it and try another aircraft for a few sorties. It's no where near the inconvenience of the 1 guy being blown away by the 5 guys constantly.
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......or you can shorten up the side switch time. Now pony drivers can switch to the side that DOESNT have an ENY issue and they still get to fly their ponies with out causing an imbalance.
HTC has the numbers, but after they closed down the "dual" MAs because they were not needed due to lowering population they forgot about resetting the switch time and it was still at 1 hour. I don't remember any major ENY issues except maybe during Euro times. Again, it is the time with the lower numbers which a few players can trigger wild swings in ENY.
Yesterday afternoon Bish had a 24 ENY and an hour later Rooks had a 9. That seems like a pretty big swing to me and that is with a 6 hour limit in place. 6 hours doesn't seem to be working, maybe its time for something else.
I agree that there has to be a balancing mechanism in place, but with the dropping numbers I think the one we have is not working, and is causing players to leave, some permanently.
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Advertising is advertising.
True, I guess you could consider it advertising. But consider this: having people from this community participate in other sim communities is not not a closed loop or a zero sum game. Ever wonder why you hear some new players talk about how they "stumble" across Aces High? Maybe because few here participate in other communities like you do?
I have no reason to go to other game sites.
That's your choice. Thank you for proving my point that you have no idea what you are talking about concerning other simulation forums.
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See Rule #4
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Quit whining about ENY and learn how to fly something else.
Friken crybabies
Tell that to new guys in a p40 while they get clubbed by la7s... even if the figure out how to switch, they couldnt.
Keep in mind this post shouldnt be about us that have been here for years.
It should be about new guys and the ones that left.
I hate to put it like this, but most of you commenting negatively towards change, i could spank p40 vs la7..
But remember, this isnt about us.
If you cant see side switching times any ENY arent working against eachother.. I am not going to draw you a picture.
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I believe the whole reason side switching was lengthened so long was folks changing sides to locate CVs and other sundry stuff.
Same thing killed H2H.
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I personally think 3 hours is a better period of time for the rule.
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I believe the whole reason side switching was lengthened so long was folks changing sides to locate CVs and other sundry stuff.
Same thing killed H2H.
I thought so too, but in the past few threads about this, people have posted a link to Hitech explaining it didn't have anything to do with spies. Apparently, there are (simultaneously) too few people who are willing to switch (which causes ENY to go through the roof), and so many people that would switch so often as to have numbers wildly fluctuate and cause greater imbalances if the time switch were shorter.
If you can make any sense out of that, let me know!
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I believe the whole reason side switching was lengthened so long was folks changing sides to locate CVs and other sundry stuff.
Same thing killed H2H.
here is the link if you would like to check it out.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,361462.msg4811379.html#msg4811379
Like Lazer said, this isn't as much about the vets, tho it is they that are posting about this. It greatly effects new players as well. While the vets CAN work around it it has become an increasing problem with the drop in numbers. It is something that COULD be addresses, but isn't.
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Quit whining about ENY and learn how to fly something else.
Friken crybabies
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:rofl
you are good with this reply
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here is the link if you would like to check it out.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,361462.msg4811379.html#msg4811379
Like Lazer said, this isn't as much about the vets, tho it is they that are posting about this. It greatly effects new players as well. While the vets CAN work around it it has become an increasing problem with the drop in numbers. It is something that COULD be addresses, but isn't.
its more about the small majority that actually hit this forum too.
And the list goes on and on.
Ignore it all you want... reality will soon set in.
Fyi i am in agreement with you.. this wasnt a jab from the "no" club fugi
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Quit whining about ENY and learn how to fly something else.
Friken crybabies
Plane never mattered to me but I see plenty of complaints about it here and in game that I strongly think it deserves to be looked at...my personal opinion is changing the side switch time to what Bruv suggested in the wishlist furom is the best answer for a lot of the current problems in gameplay especially in off hour times. After you learn a certain amount of ACM...plane doesn't matter except for overall performance against other planes (Similar pilots in a Spit 16 vs K4...Spit 16 will win because it is the better fighter)....so saying to learn another plane is kind of pointless. Dora is probably the easier ride in MA alt compared to the P51D but the pony carries a lot of ord so it gets the lower ENY.....this game has players who never up with ord, should we take away from their fun because a plane carries something they never use???
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It's good to see some of the vets actually care about the new player base and not just get their kicks clubbing over and over again
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Tell that to new guys in a p40 while they get clubbed by la7s... even if the figure out how to switch, they couldnt.
Keep in mind this post shouldnt be about us that have been here for years.
It should be about new guys and the ones that left.
I hate to put it like this, but most of you commenting negatively towards change, i could spank p40 vs la7..
But remember, this isnt about us.
If you cant see side switching times any ENY arent working against eachother.. I am not going to draw you a picture.
I agree. It shouldnt be about the ones of us who have been here for years. But. Those are typically the people I see whining the most about it.
Also. Keep in mind I started cutting my teeth in this game flying the FM2 and the 109F as my very first main rides here.
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You know that I would not mind if it was now and again - but recently it has been just about every time I fly. I can and do fly other planes but I would prefer to not be ENY locked so often.
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I agree. It shouldnt be about the ones of us who have been here for years. But. Those are typically the people I see whining the most about it.
Also. Keep in mind I started cutting my teeth in this game flying the FM2 and the 109F as my very first main rides here.
They dont make people like they did back in the day anymore... :D
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I agree. It shouldnt be about the ones of us who have been here for years. But. Those are typically the people I see whining the most about it.
Also. Keep in mind I started cutting my teeth in this game flying the FM2 and the 109F as my very first main rides here.
What happened to the 190D-9?? :devil
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Keep in mind I started cutting my teeth in this game flying the FM2 and the 109F as my very first main rides here.
Do you happen to remember how insanely boring it would be running into aircraft that could outrun you, and chose to constantly?
The early war rides are fun with the right partner, but you can make your own fun with the late war monsters. I'm having a ball flying the La-7 and D9 lately for the simple reason that people don't have any choice but to fight me.
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They dont make people like they did back in the day anymore... :D
You DO have a point I cant argue with there LOL
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;)
What happened to the 190D-9?? :devil
Not a thing.
I moved to the D9 because I got tired of certain people running away from me ;)
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I thought so too, but in the past few threads about this, people have posted a link to Hitech explaining it didn't have anything to do with spies. Apparently, there are (simultaneously) too few people who are willing to switch (which causes ENY to go through the roof), and so many people that would switch so often as to have numbers wildly fluctuate and cause greater imbalances if the time switch were shorter.
If you can make any sense out of that, let me know!
Ahhhh I missed that post.
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It's good to see some of the vets actually care about the new player base and not just get their kicks clubbing over and over again
I see quite a few new folks from time to time in AHIII. Then sometimes it is a barren ocean.
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It's good to see some of the vets actually care about the new player base and not just get their kicks clubbing over and over again
Many do care about the new players in the game and we try to help them.
I see it often. I did see a couple of AH folks trolling a couple of new folks in AHIII Saturday night. I let them know that is not the way to get more folks into AHIII. They both got the idea easy enough.
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The customer is always right.
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The customer is always right.
/thread
No, they aren't.
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No, they aren't.
Really?
Name one single business in history that survived without giving the customer what he/she wants.
Boom.
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Many do care about the new players in the game and we try to help them.
I see it often. I did see a couple of AH folks trolling a couple of new folks in AHIII Saturday night. I let them know that is not the way to get more folks into AHIII. They both got the idea easy enough.
lol ya my CO. (ADB) has been hanging out allot in ah3 lately... I've tried it but FPS 24 with min graphics doesn't make it too much fun...I do plan on updating my laptop to the one scuzzy got his wife he hasn't had a FPS problem.. But forgot to ask if he uses wifi for it like I have To on mine :bhead
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to me, eny is necessary. the bish almost always have way more people than nits and rooks. and if HTC let them, they would use uber rides even if it was 40 vs 10.
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No, they aren't.
True, but they are always the customer.
One of my favorite customer service quotes:
"Be thankful for customers who complain. You still have the opportunity to make them happy."
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The customer is always right.
/thread
How about stupid customers? Are they always right?
How about customers that act like fools? Are they always right?
How about customers that have absolutely no clue how a business is run? Are they always right.
How about 2000 different customers that all want something different? Which one do you choose to "be right" ?
How about the 18 year old men that come into my motorcycle dealership and insist on buying a 1000cc sport bike as their first machine and are dead in a week? Were they right?
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Really?
Name one single business in history that survived without giving the customer what he/she wants.
Boom.
Daybreak, Blizzard, Ubisoft, Valve, EA....pretty much the entire gaming industry. They can't give the customer everything they want, if we had that here for me Man guns would be disabled until FH/VHs are down, Side switch would be back to 1 hour in off peak hours, and M3 resupply effectiveness would be cut in half.....doesn't mean I can't keep fighting for those things because I truly believe they would make MA game play better(Still waiting on a real argument from anyone against these BTW :devil).
to me, eny is necessary. the bish almost always have way more people than nits and rooks. and if HTC let them, they would use uber rides even if it was 40 vs 10.
This is why I think the side switch time getting lowered would help this issue....gives those stuck in the green horde a chance to change over....if they don't want to leave that green horde they probably aren't good enough to make a difference anyway.
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Really?
Name one single business in history that survived without giving the customer what he/she wants.
Boom.
The only truly successful businesses are the ones who give you what you think you need/want... what we think is right/we need has been sold to us in a way that we think we can not live without it.... and now the world is stark raving mad because we have lost our actual freedom of choice...on top of all that we have been told we deserve everything ..it is our right....so that means we are all right, all the time...so yes the customer is always right...but so is the business.... very flawed race we be.
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Really?
Name one single business in history that survived without giving the customer what he/she wants.
Boom.
That list is so huge, it's not even worth mentioning any of them.
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Really?
Name one single business in history that survived without giving the customer what he/she wants.
Boom.
Work in the gaming industry, specifically for working on online games and you'll come to quickly realize that most customers aren't right, in fact they're wrong most of the time.
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V aren't you in the airline industry??? Customer definitely ain't always right there.
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That list is so huge, it's not even worth mentioning any of them.
I am not talking about doctors in Cuba or monopolies like Microsloth.
If the customer doesn't get what he wants, given a choice he goes away.
ENY and side switch times are hurting the game. Customers are being frustrated and leaving. They're "right" because they pay the bills.
Look.... People can call names. "Stop being such babies" and all that. But at the end of the day, if ENY is causing someone to logoff (like I do OFTEN, along with many others) it harms the game. You have fewer targets to shoot at. Less action.
It is a death spiral.
The OP is 100 percent correct. I used to stay up all night to fly with him and I know exactly what he is talking about. We would side switch to the low side to find a fight and 45 mins later we were on the high side--stuck.
Also, when a player likes the P-51 and every time he logs in he gets ENYed....why would he be anything other than frustrated?
Things change.
What worked five years ago may not work today.
From a customer standpoint the ENY system as currently deployed is a frustration.
Call me all the names you like. When I logoff, along with dozens of others, you have fewer bad guys to chase/shoot at. That's not a goal any of us have.
The OP is correct.
:salute
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Work in the gaming industry, specifically for working on online games and you'll come to quickly realize that most customers aren't right, in fact they're wrong most of the time.
"Dey pays da bills."
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V aren't you in the airline industry??? Customer definitely ain't always right there.
Not any more, bruh. The customer bankrupted my airline.
I still fly, but not as an airline guy.
Our business model was outstanding in 2000. Within a decade it was obsolescent.
:salute
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Really?
Name one single business in history that survived without giving the customer what he/she wants.
Boom.
In general yes.
But I know from experience that the customer is definitely not always right and I haven't hesitated to say so when needed.
Especially when what the customer wants is wrong or inferior.
And I HAVE used this line. "heh. It may be your house. But its MY business and with my business it gets done MY way using the materials I approve."
I've gotten more business from other customers BECAUSE they found out I refused to give the customer the wrong thing they wanted and even insisted on then I've lost by refusing to give a customer what they wanted.
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In general yes.
But I know from experience that the customer is definitely not always right and I haven't hesitated to say so when needed.
Especially when what the customer wants is wrong or inferior.
And I HAVE used this line. "heh. It may be your house. But its MY business and with my business it gets done MY way using the materials I approve."
I've gotten more business from other customers BECAUSE they found out I refused to give the customer the wrong thing they wanted and even insisted on then I've lost by refusing to give a customer what they wanted.
That's customer service, though. You are delivering a good product, which is what they want. If you didn't they would walk.
So, you're delivering. If you don't, you're bankrupt.
They put the money in your hand based on your feedback. You convinced them you were right. You got their business. You got referrals. Your business grew and continues to succeed.
So, the customer is still right. The customer is always right. If he isn't he puts his money in his pocket and walks away.
:salute
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"Dey pays da bills."
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So do the ones that have no issue.
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"Dey pays da bills."
Doesn't make them right. If every single game developer listened to the "customer", you would have nothing but crappy games. In fact, the customer in most cases doesn't know what he really wants. But this is a subject for a different thread.
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And I HAVE used this line. "heh. It may be your house. But its MY business and with my business it gets done MY way using the materials I approve."
I wish more of my insureds took this approach. I pay quite a few claims because some small business owner agreed to some asinine/dangerous customer request.
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Every time I hear "the customer is always right" in the context of this game, I have to think about the collision model discussions of the past... ;)
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That's customer service, though. You are delivering a good product, which is what they want. If you didn't they would walk.
So, you're delivering. If you don't, you're bankrupt.
They put the money in your hand based on your feedback. You convinced them you were right. You got their business. You got referrals. Your business grew and continues to succeed.
So, the customer is still right. The customer is always right. If he isn't he puts his money in his pocket and walks away.
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No. You dont understand. Of those I've told they werent right about 80% of those did walk. And good riddance to them too. The added work I picked up was from the people (friends, family,neighbors) THEY complained to about me not being willing to give them their way.
Real life example.
I had a customer insist on picking up the paint themselves. Fine "But I dont use paint from Lowes or Home Depot even at your insistence"
"But its MY house. And Consumer reports says that Behr is a good paint."
"May be your house but its MY business and MY reputation. And product line for product line there is NO WAY Behr compares favorably to Ben Moore Or Sherwin Williams and I dont care how much money Home Depot pays Consumer Reports to say otherwise. If you want to pick up the paint yourself. Fine. But Im telling you now that when I get here, If I see paint from Lowes or Home Depot. I am going to get back in my truck and drive away"
"Well. The customer is always right and I want Behr"
"Then you want another contractor."
We parted ways. But. I did get no less then 4 other jobs on that street and several of his extended family call and hire me on the spot BECAUSE I wasnt willing to compromise and give that one guy what he wanted just so he could be "right"
Another customer who INSISTED on Behr. Almost the same identical story with him going off and having it done in behr against my advise because "the customer is always right"
Dunno. You tell me. Was he right?
(http://www.flamewarriors.net/forum2/index.php?attachment/25828-ncm-0309-jpg/&thumbnail=1)
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Warbirds solved that by minimizing the plane surfaces for collisions, not elegant, but it worked, and also since gunnery is harder there than in AH
Every time I hear "the customer is always right" in the context of this game, I have to think about the collision model discussions of the past... ;)
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I wish more of my insureds took this approach. I pay quite a few claims because some small business owner agreed to some asinine/dangerous customer request.
And what happened to that businesses reputation as a result of taking the "customer is always right" approach? Because it almost always gets blamed on the business. Not the homeowner, and not the cr@appy product the homeowner insisted on using.
But to a certain extent it is the fault of the business because they are more concerned with the short term profit then the long term sustainable gain received from a good reputation.
I just recently did work for two repeat customers which in and of itself is no big news until you consider I hadnt heard from them in 15 years. Not that anything was wrong but because they didnt need any other work done. But when they each purchased new homes they had to actively seek me out because they no longer had my contact info but wanted me specific.
Guess I did something right.
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What happens if HTC removes ENY because "the customer is always right" and I make a thread about wanting ENY back? :rolleyes:
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What happens if HTC removes ENY because "the customer is always right" and I make a thread about wanting ENY back?
....why...you would be misguided, of course. There was never any problem that justified ENY in the first place. Everyone knows that.
- oldman
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What happens if HTC removes ENY because "the customer is always right" and I make a thread about wanting ENY back? :rolleyes:
Maybe setting up a vote, just like they did with the large maps? ;)
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Maybe setting up a vote, just like they did with the large maps? ;)
:rofl :aok
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Maybe setting up a vote, just like they did with the large maps? ;)
:rofl This. This right here. Of course this example goes against the narrative, so it is not to be mentioned again.
Wiley.
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Good to see squads like Babybacks On the Wing do stand up stuff like switch to help with numbers issues. Then of course the friggin AK's gotta come along and bork it all to hell.
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Good to see squads like Babybacks On the Wing do stand up stuff like switch to help with numbers issues. Then of course the friggin AK's gotta come along and bork it all to hell.
We talked about switching back Knight last week on squad night and I plan on bringing it up again tonight....saw the Knights were very outnumbered the last few times I was on
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What happens if HTC removes ENY because "the customer is always right" and I make a thread about wanting ENY back? :rolleyes:
Numbers will tell that tale. As it stands we are losing players over the status quo system.
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Every time I hear "the customer is always right" in the context of this game, I have to think about the collision model discussions of the past... ;)
nice :aok
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Numbers will tell that tale. As it stands we are losing players over the status quo system.
Correlation does not prove causation. ENY has been here since before I was playing and the numbers were still rising after I started.
One thing is for certain, there will be even less of an incentive to join the low numbered side if they can gang with 5 ENY monsters too. What will happen is more people will log off, switch to the high numbered side, or quit. The numbers will get worse, but at least you can still have your P-51D.
....why...you would be misguided, of course. There was never any problem that justified ENY in the first place. Everyone knows that.
- oldman
Guess HTC is misguided too.
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Correlation does not prove causation. ENY has been here since before I was playing and the numbers were still rising after I started.
One thing is for certain, there will be even less of an incentive to join the low numbered side if they can gang with 5 ENY monsters too. What will happen is more people will log off, switch to the high numbered side, or quit. The numbers will get worse, but at least you can still have your P-51D.
Guess HTC is misguided too.
They are clearly correlated here. Anyone who can't see that is. . .
And with only 68 total players (or less) losing even three people over ENY hurts the game.
Fess is one of the guys who makes this game fun. Are we better off if he leaves? I don't think so. And for every person like him who raises a legit squawk twenty others agree without a word.
I don't care what people fly as long as I have targets.
Monster? Lol. One of the weakest planes in the game. Overrated is being kind.
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They are clearly correlated here. Anyone who can't see that is. . .
Wait, is it the ENY this week, or is it the large maps, or the lack of new maps? Or is it the ack and GVs and ships? Or is it the lack of perks on the planes that can run?
We really need to elect an official doomsayer so we stop getting mixed messages. People need to know what's killing the game so they can complain in a unified manner.
Wiley.
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They are clearly correlated here. Anyone who can't see that is. . .
And what of those people who ignore the fact that numbers were still increasing while ENY was already in effect?
There are many factors for the decline of the player base. Competition from "free" games and HTC resting on their laurels for too long are the biggest reasons IMO.
Wait, is it the ENY this week, or is it the large maps, or the lack of new maps? Or is it the ack and GVs and ships? Or is it the lack of perks on the planes that can run?
We really need to elect an official doomsayer so we stop getting mixed messages. People need to know what's killing the game so they can complain in a unified manner.
Wiley.
:D
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Wait, is it the ENY this week, or is it the large maps, or the lack of new maps? Or is it the ack and GVs and ships? Or is it the lack of perks on the planes that can run?
We really need to elect an official doomsayer so we stop getting mixed messages. People need to know what's killing the game so they can complain in a unified manner.
Wiley.
Past is prologue. This march has been slogged by Brand X already. I told you 18 months ago.
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And what of those people who ignore the fact that numbers were still increasing while ENY was already in effect?
There are many factors for the decline of the player base. Competition from "free" games and HTC resting on their laurels for too long are the biggest reasons IMO.
:D
Increasing numbers minimize the swings in ENY.
When you have 500 players versus 30 well. We all passed math.
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And what of those people who ignore the fact that numbers were still increasing while ENY was already in effect?
Some AH history:
ENY limiter was introduced in the summer of 2004. Before and tt that time the player numbers were actually going down. From late 2004 on started to climb until reaching their all time high in late 2007/early 2008.
Which doesn't mean ENY was THE reason for that increase either ;)
Carry on...
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Past is prologue. This march has been slogged by Brand X already. I told you 18 months ago.
Oh right. It's the 3 country system that's killing the game. Forgot about that one.
Wiley.
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Oh right. It's the 3 country system that's killing the game. Forgot about that one.
Wiley.
Sure isn't helping the cause. . .
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Wait, is it the ENY this week, or is it the large maps, or the lack of new maps? Or is it the ack and GVs and ships? Or is it the lack of perks on the planes that can run?
We really need to elect an official doomsayer so we stop getting mixed messages. People need to know what's killing the game so they can complain in a unified manner.
Wiley.
Oh right. It's the 3 country system that's killing the game. Forgot about that one.
Wiley.
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or Switch sides?!
And make things worse than they already are?
It's obvious in USA prime-time that rooks & nights don't fight for bases and double-team bish....so hop sides just to make things worse? No thank you.
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And make things worse than they already are?
It's obvious in USA prime-time that rooks & nights don't fight for bases and double-team bish....so hop sides just to make things worse? No thank you.
:rofl I love your delusion that they don't fight each other, and that you missed the glaringly obvious opportunity to swap sides and start a fight between the people you believe don't fight each other. :rofl
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And make things worse than they already are?
It's obvious in USA prime-time that rooks & nights don't fight for bases and double-team bish....so hop sides just to make things worse? No thank you.
:rolleyes:
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They are clearly correlated here. Anyone who can't see that is. . .
And with only 68 total players (or less) losing even three people over ENY hurts the game.
Fess is one of the guys who makes this game fun. Are we better off if he leaves? I don't think so. And for every person like him who raises a legit squawk twenty others agree without a word.
I don't care what people fly as long as I have targets.
Monster? Lol. One of the weakest planes in the game. Overrated is being kind.
The bolded is the important part. With 400 players in the MA 10 players joining in or logging off isn't much of a big deal in terms for ENY. With 100 players 10 players logging in or out plays havoc with ENY.
With the low numbers this system doesn't work as well as it does with large numbers. With large numbers players aren't getting hit by ENY as hard or as often, and so less frustration. Now with smaller numbers you get hit more often and much harder and so the frustration level goes up.
Now picture a new player coming in to the arena. He has a much better chance of getting hit by ENY these days and so cant fly the one plane he subscribed for..... the P51 his grandpa flew. Not knowing how ENY works, he may never come back.
Its these little things that can be tweaked to make things work like they did before, like they are suppose to, to maintain the numbers we have until they start to grow again :pray
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They are clearly correlated here. Anyone who can't see that is. . .
And with only 68 total players (or less) losing even three people over ENY hurts the game.
Fess is one of the guys who makes this game fun. Are we better off if he leaves? I don't think so. And for every person like him who raises a legit squawk twenty others agree without a word.
I don't care what people fly as long as I have targets.
Monster? Lol. One of the weakest planes in the game. Overrated is being kind.
I hope for your psychological well-being that you don't actually believe that.
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Now picture a new player coming in to the arena. He has a much better chance of getting hit by ENY these days and so cant fly the one plane he subscribed for..... the P51 his grandpa flew. Not knowing how ENY works, he may never come back.
He hasn't had a chance to get his chesspiece underoos fitted yet. He's in an excellent position to switch to the low numbered side. Or did his grandpa fly Bish exclusively too?
First thing people usually do when they can't up something is ask on a channel, "Why can't I fly the single plane I decided to purchase a gaming computer, HOTAS, Oculus Rift, and subscribe for a 2 week account to this game to fly? My grandfather's spirit does not rest easy, and my children cannot sleep with his ghost wandering the halls of my home in this state of unrest that can only be assuaged by me flying a P-51 in Aces High. Their grades are suffering for it, and I fear that they will surely wind up living a life of homelessness and despair unless I am able to fly a P-51."
Where the problem comes in is, the majority of the replies he'll get from the community will generally consist of, "Because Hitech is stoopid" but let's not dwell on that.
Hitech, do not punish 3 generations of people in this family with ENY. It is cruel.
Wiley.
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Why not just make them have a perk cost instead of being unusable? This would be one way for players to use up their perkies or must choose a more difficult plane.
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And make things worse than they already are?
It's obvious in USA prime-time that rooks & nights don't fight for bases and double-team bish....so hop sides just to make things worse? No thank you.
Your lack of knowledge about the other 2 sides is the reason you should switch some. All sides are more the same than different.
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I maybe the minority in this but IMHO ENY has had little or no affect/effect.. Not sure which one to use.. on my personal dogfighting experience.. It if had a propeller and a gun I can get a kill in it... Ya I maybe not as fast but I can adust.. but that's just me
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I find it funny that one side will outnumber the rest by 20 or 30 players and then complain that they cant fly uber rides SMH :rolleyes:
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I find it funny that one side will outnumber the rest by 20 or 30 players and then complain that they cant fly uber rides SMH :rolleyes:
Bingo
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I find it funny that one side will outnumber the rest by 20 or 30 players and then complain that they cant fly uber rides SMH :rolleyes:
What I don't understand is why people think it is better to be ganged by a gaggle of Spit V's, Brewsters, and Zekes than D9's, La7's, and P51's. I would much rather have the latter on my six any day of the week.
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#worldatwar
#tanksarecool
#shitonyourownflightmodel
#bombingbuildingsisfun
#needm3swithsuppliesheadingtotown
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#quickgetinthatmannedgun
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Then Yak9T does not suffer from ENY :old:
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He hasn't had a chance to get his chesspiece underoos fitted yet. He's in an excellent position to switch to the low numbered side. Or did his grandpa fly Bish exclusively too?
First thing people usually do when they can't up something is ask on a channel, "Why can't I fly the single plane I decided to purchase a gaming computer, HOTAS, Oculus Rift, and subscribe for a 2 week account to this game to fly? My grandfather's spirit does not rest easy, and my children cannot sleep with his ghost wandering the halls of my home in this state of unrest that can only be assuaged by me flying a P-51 in Aces High. Their grades are suffering for it, and I fear that they will surely wind up living a life of homelessness and despair unless I am able to fly a P-51."
Where the problem comes in is, the majority of the replies he'll get from the community will generally consist of, "Because Hitech is stoopid" but let's not dwell on that.
Hitech, do not punish 3 generations of people in this family with ENY. It is cruel.
Wiley.
Most new players don't know how to work the radio to ASK about the game.
ENY isn't "cruel ", it's a nessicity the problem is with the low numbers. Like I sa8d before, late Saturday afternoon eastern time, bish had a 24 ENY, and less than an hour later it was rooks who had a 9 ENY. Talk about wild swings.
It needs to be tweaked for the low numbers.
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Most new players don't know how to work the radio to ASK about the game.
I think you're grossly underestimating the capability of the average new player. Text channels are not that impenetrable to the average person. If they can't figure that out, I doubt they'd be able to figure out how to choose a plane and launch it.
Personally, I see little difference between being horded by high ENY planes versus low ENY planes, but apparently HT feels differently. If people treated the game more like a pickup game of football instead of sticking to their side no matter what, it wouldn't be an issue. Unfortunately people have the attitude of "chesspiece or log out" with no room for compromise.
HT apparently made the decision that people logging off the high side is preferable to the kind of side imbalance they get without ENY. It's designed to be punitive. All the "tweaks" are ever talking about is making it less punitive so the side imbalance is less painful for the side on top.
Wiley.
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And make things worse than they already are?
It's obvious in USA prime-time that rooks & nights don't fight for bases and double-team bish....so hop sides just to make things worse? No thank you.
wow wow wow. this guy is off his rocker as usual. right now at 12 pm central time, ROX is part of 20 bish and 20 knits vs literally 9 rooks. hes not on 200 crying about that though.
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It has been a while since I played AH II but ENY was rarely a problem for me back then and I thought a good way to balance the sides. Based on what I've read it seems the low numbers and longer side switch times are the main problems. Why not lower the side switch times? Is it a fear of cheating or game exploitation?
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It has been a while since I played AH II but ENY was rarely a problem for me back then and I thought a good way to balance the sides. Based on what I've read it seems the low numbers and longer side switch times are the main problems. Why not lower the side switch times? Is it a fear of cheating or game exploitation?
The official story is the side switch time prevents wild swings in player numbers. Like somebody said upthread, where it went from Bish having 24 ENY to Rooks having 9 inside an hour, I don't really see how letting people switch to the low side could make it any worse than it already is at times these days, but that's HT's stance on it.
Honestly, I think very few people would switch anyways just because the country loyalty is so incredibly firmly entrenched.
Wiley.
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Most new players don't know how to work the radio to ASK about the game.
ENY isn't "cruel ", it's a nessicity the problem is with the low numbers. Like I sa8d before, late Saturday afternoon eastern time, bish had a 24 ENY, and less than an hour later it was rooks who had a 9 ENY. Talk about wild swings.
It needs to be tweaked for the low numbers.
Actually most new players tune to the Help channel but don't get any help because the majority use that channel as a back up channel 200.
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I use to hit escape, then "radio", to type for almost a month. One magical day I pressed / and it pulled up a typing board. Sometimes the simplest things are difficult to find when you have no clue about them being there.
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I find it funny that one side will outnumber the rest by 20 or 30 players and then complain that they cant fly uber rides SMH :rolleyes:
I don't like it regardless because ENY ALSO causes my opponents to log.
In any case, it doesn't take a twenty player imbalance to drive ENY to 29.
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the thing that bugs me a bit is when you have a 29 ENY and half the team is not in flight i know some are landing and taking off and such but for the most part its AFK people who just dont log off. If you set in the tower for over 5-10 mins it should boot you out to the arenas menu that would help some with the ENY issue. ENY is silly imho anyway you are gonna have peak times for each country and they may have a bit of a advantage but to take everyone ride from them and make them fly ju-88 into ponys because ENY has other bombers grounded is crazy and it forces people to log off rather then change sides because that means all their friends have to change if they wanna fly together and they all change and it shift in a hour and they get caught again by ENY guess what the stupid 6 hour rule. robbing peter to pay paul is slowly pushing more people away.
i fly The F6F as my main ride and ENY dont allow it much anymore so i just choose to play other games the hellcat ENY used to be 15 they moved it down to 12 why? because it carrier based is the only thing i can think of. The P38 has the same ord loadout and better gun package it is faster and has a 20 ENY. When i cant even fly a mid war plane up against the late war monsters thats when it becomes a waste of my time to log on and thats why i dont fly its not like im asking for a whole hell of a lot other then to fly a hellcat. end of my whine and no i dont want any cheese
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Honestly, I think very few people would switch anyways just because the country loyalty is so incredibly firmly entrenched.
It is unfortunate that attitude continues. To be honest I never really understood Chess Piece loyalty. In other games I understand similar attitudes to a degree since one side might have a specific set of planes (Luftwaffe) a player may be more interested in flying. BoS is sometimes not much fun because everyone wants to fly German and the Russians end up outnumbered 3 to1 or more. But in the AH MA they all have the same plane sets for the most part, until ENY hits of course but that is why I always thought it was a good system.
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the thing that bugs me a bit is when you have a 29 ENY and half the team is not in flight i know some are landing and taking off and such but for the most part its AFK people who just dont log off. If you set in the tower for over 5-10 mins it should boot you out to the arenas menu that would help some with the ENY issue. ENY is silly imho anyway you are gonna have peak times for each country and they may have a bit of a advantage but to take everyone ride from them and make them fly ju-88 into ponys because ENY has other bombers grounded is crazy and it forces people to log off rather then change sides because that means all their friends have to change if they wanna fly together and they all change and it shift in a hour and they get caught again by ENY guess what the stupid 6 hour rule. robbing peter to pay paul is slowly pushing more people away.
i fly The F6F as my main ride and ENY dont allow it much anymore so i just choose to play other games the hellcat ENY used to be 15 they moved it down to 12 why? because it carrier based is the only thing i can think of. The P38 has the same ord loadout and better gun package it is faster and has a 20 ENY. When i cant even fly a mid war plane up against the late war monsters thats when it becomes a waste of my time to log on and thats why i dont fly its not like im asking for a whole hell of a lot other then to fly a hellcat. end of my whine and no i dont want any cheese
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the thing that bugs me a bit is when you have a 29 ENY and half the team is not in flight i know some are landing and taking off and such but for the most part its AFK people who just dont log off. If you set in the tower for over 5-10 mins it should boot you out to the arenas menu that would help some with the ENY issue. ENY is silly imho anyway you are gonna have peak times for each country and they may have a bit of a advantage but to take everyone ride from them and make them fly ju-88 into ponys because ENY has other bombers grounded is crazy and it forces people to log off rather then change sides because that means all their friends have to change if they wanna fly together and they all change and it shift in a hour and they get caught again by ENY guess what the stupid 6 hour rule. robbing peter to pay paul is slowly pushing more people away.
i fly The F6F as my main ride and ENY dont allow it much anymore so i just choose to play other games the hellcat ENY used to be 15 they moved it down to 12 why? because it carrier based is the only thing i can think of. The P38 has the same ord loadout and better gun package it is faster and has a 20 ENY. When i cant even fly a mid war plane up against the late war monsters thats when it becomes a waste of my time to log on and thats why i dont fly its not like im asking for a whole hell of a lot other then to fly a hellcat. end of my whine and no i dont want any cheese
ENY may drive people away like you say, but so does fighting with half the people vs your bishop daily hordes. just about every single day the bishop have twice the people and going for the smallest team. if there were no eny, you guys would be doing that in uber rides.
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Chess Piece Loyalty huh
Favorite Car Brand Chevy
Favorite Lawn Tractor Sears
Favorite Push mower Toro
Favorite Basketball Team Bulls
Favorite Football Team Bears
Favorite TV Brand LG
Favorite Video Card Nvidia
Favorite AW Side "B's"
Favorite Hand Tools Craftsman
Favorite Cell Phone HTC
and on and on and everyone has them, its not fashionable in here only because a certain part of the vocal minority doesn't want it because it affects their game play. Chess Piece Loyalty would seem even good for a new player, it would give them something to be a part of
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Chess Piece Loyalty huh
Favorite Car Brand Chevy
Favorite Lawn Tractor Sears
Favorite Push mower Toro
Favorite Basketball Team Bulls
Favorite Football Team Bears
Favorite TV Brand LG
Favorite Video Card Nvidia
Favorite AW Side "B's"
Favorite Hand Tools Craftsman
Favorite Cell Phone HTC
and on and on and everyone has them
No, not everyone. Not at all. :)
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and on and on and everyone has them, its not fashionable in here only because a certain part of the vocal minority doesn't want it because it affects their game play. Chess Piece Loyalty would seem even good for a new player, it would give them something to be a part of
When you play chess, do you only play black or white?
If you play pickup football, do you only play shirts or skins?
The game should be more like a game of pickup football than a real war. But it's not, because of this attitude. Less fun for everybody because you're either stuck in a green horde rolling over everything, or your side is getting horded and you're stuck trying to stem the tide.
Wiley.
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Chess Piece Loyalty would seem even good for a new player, it would give them something to be a part of
They're part of the AH crowd!
- oldman
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Most of these complaints seem to be from forum\community members who like playing the game solo. Understandably large scale imbalances in the game effect them first and more drastically than those who are loyal to a country\group and want to play the game as a group member. After POTW recently switched to rook trying to help balance the eny problem, a single constant held true.
The bish have a substantial group of players who log in around the same time during week days. This allows them to enjoy a localized evening of smacking down which ever country they pick on that evening. My experiences of the past few years with knights and now rooks, everyone appears to be waiting for someone else to create the fun so they can tag along. This bish group still has the energy level that has waned a bit in the other two countries which they use liberally to generate action favorable to their evening fun goals.
That group by being chess piece loyal is still having lots of fun by being a group. And eny is supposed to limit them if it's working correctly. Though I've seen that group logged in fighting the knights while the knights had eny limitations during the last 2 months. Respective of the time period at around 9pm pacific time.
So is this POST strictly about solo players at off peak hours and related ENY issues? Or solo players trashing groups of paying customers who like playing together as groups which tends to generate more fun for the group? By definition loyalty to a group will most of the time go hand in hand with loyalty to a territory that group defines itself by. Humans have an ingrained hard wired tendency to king, country, and brigade. If that could be changed, Hitech has had 15 years to do it up to the time of this POST.
I suspect ENY in AH2 can be adjusted just like the percentage of a town down for a white flag. You will have to ask Hitech if he wrote into the ENY code that given some minimum number of players in an arena it would turn itself off. From being on late at night with small numbers when it was in force, I suspect it doesn't have a minimum number disabling function. It does detect country player number imbalances.
So maybe you can ask Hitech if he would lower the ENY thresholds for the rest of AH2. And wishlist for AH3 a minimum arena population number shutoff. After all, AH2 is EoL while AH3 has years ahead in it's life cycle.
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ENY may drive people away like you say, but so does fighting with half the people vs your bishop daily hordes. just about every single day the bishop have twice the people and going for the smallest team. if there were no eny, you guys would be doing that in uber rides.
The bish are very strong in the morning no question but in the evening not so much we lose most if not all of everything taken. The knight tend to be the strongest earlie evening and rooks are strongest late evening if you flew for more then one side for a period of time you would no this but because your rook only your blind to the true facts. each side has a time that it peaks and they are all differnt times of the day. i fly what ever country we as a squad are on we dont change often but we have flew all countries. and see how it works in full rotation.
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Groups that change countries are again another dynamic in terms of generating activity energy if they are large enough. If several groups jump countries at the same time to the same country it destabilizes things for the whole arena. POTW is a large enough squad that on squad nights we tend to become a very large portion of our country. Respective to the current MA low numbers.
So here we are back to groups and their collective effect on the arena, versus the OP talking about how eny effects lone players during off peak hours.
If Hitech were to disable ENY until AH3 goes live, these same lone players would be back complaining to Hitech again. Essentially that he has to force the small number of off peak players to make themselves accessible to them with out being able to hide or run away. Other wise they represent an undefined existential threat to the spirit of the game by not willingly handing up their scalps. Or Hitech is a meeny and something else poignant like that for not caring.
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So here we are back to groups and their collective effect on the arena, versus the OP talking about how eny effects lone players during off peak hours.
My original post was about how ENY affects me and a small group of players that play during the off peak hours. It is not aimed at large squads or those that play when there are 200+ players online. Last night there were 18 players in the game, even small changes to who logs on / off / changes sides with such a low player base can and does affect ENY. Sure I can fly other planes, many of them much more capable than a P51D in the style of flying I like to do, however I do enjoy flying the 51D and I am finding a lot of the time I am ENY locked. It is frustrating.
If Hitech were to disable ENY until AH3 goes live, these same lone players would be back complaining to Hitech again. Essentially that he has to force the small number of off peak players to make themselves accessible to them with out being able to hide or run away. Other wise they represent an undefined existential threat to the spirit of the game by not willingly handing up their scalps. Or Hitech is a meeny and something else poignant like that for not caring.
I am not sure I would complain if Hitech took ENY away. As far as forcing players to not hide or run away - well I think that is a different issue that is affecting the community and not one that Hitech can control. It is for the members of the community to fight rather than run and hide - it is after all a combat game.
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I find myself being loyal to the green side, whichever one that may be at the time.
Long ago I started the chant, "if it's red, it's dead".
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I think the late night people relative to the USA pacific time zone are having a bit of a rough time. Both ENY and low numbers is a hard row to hoe. :salute
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Bustr has brought a big can of correct.
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I think the late night people relative to the USA pacific time zone are having a bit of a rough time. Both ENY and low numbers is a hard row to hoe. :salute
Hoe the row.
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I think the late night people relative to the USA pacific time zone are having a bit of a rough time. Both ENY and low numbers is a hard row to hoe. :salute
God bless you for articulating it so accurately. :salute
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Bustr has brought a big can of correct.
+1
This is what Fess has been saying (me, too) for a long time.
:cheers: <----- Chugging a can or two of correct.
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Hoe the row.
I could make a joke or two using terms that rhyme with hoe but the thread would derail. :rofl
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I could make a joke or two using terms that rhyme with hoe but the thread would derail. :rofl
Indubitably.... :D
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Indubitably.... :D
The payoff is at 0:22. LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3pxZSmxL5M