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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Rodent57 on June 03, 2017, 02:27:23 PM
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Am looking to upgrade Graphics card in the hopes that it will stop the screen freezes.
I have settled on the GTX 1060 as a trade off between performance and cost, but when it comes down to trying to pick which one, "I feel like a pig looking at a wristwatch!" :bhead
So I ask any of you that have purchased/installed a GTX 1060:
- Which manufacturer would you suggest/shy away from?
- 6Gig or 3 Gig?
- Founders Model?
- Other things I haven't realized I should care about?
Thanks in advance,
Rodent57
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Post your Dxdiag..... the first third.
If you are using the DX11 version of the game a new card won't fix the screen freezes. Try the DX9 version first. Its much cheaper.
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Skuzzy has combed through the DxDIAG for me.
I'll try Dx9 ver, but it was a bigger offender than Dx11 ver last time I compared.
Appreciate the attempt to save me cash.
- R57
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The dxdiag would be helpful to determine what would balance well with your current system.
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Am looking to upgrade Graphics card in the hopes that it will stop the screen freezes.
I have settled on the GTX 1060 as a trade off between performance and cost, but when it comes down to trying to pick which one, "I feel like a pig looking at a wristwatch!" :bhead
So I ask any of you that have purchased/installed a GTX 1060:
- Which manufacturer would you suggest/shy away from?
- 6Gig or 3 Gig?
- Founders Model?
- Other things I haven't realized I should care about?
Thanks in advance,
Rodent57
I'd get the 6gig version.
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I'd get the 6gig version.
Agree here although I believe someone said that 3GB will run it pretty well if cost is a factor.
Edit in: Here's the thread where we discussed 970/1060 and 3GB/6GB.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,381395.0.html
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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&O=&Q=&ap=y&c3api=1876%2C%7Bcreative%7D%2C%7Bkeyword%7D&gclid=CjwKEAjwvMnJBRCO2NSu-Puc6AUSJAAf-OSUA0PCf0PHVuCZqkBtbmCkET6H_qCQy4QsYcTN25CdCRoCtgzw_wcB&is=REG&m=Y&sku=1282373
I have the MSI 1060 3gb and run the game with everything maxed out. With shadows and reflection I'm running 40-60 frames, without 55-60.
I also have I7-6700 and 16 RAM.
No complaints.
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Thanks you all!
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Stay away from the "Founders Edition". They were the original and the newer ones are considerably upgraded, better cooling and overclock etc.
6GB over 3GB for longevity.
If they offer a 'backplane' it's worth a few dollars more.
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I got a 1060 6GB. Love it.
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I have the MSI Gamer 6GB version. I'm a big fan of the MSI coolers. I'm a few months in and am really happy with it.
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EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SC GAMING, ACX 2.0 (Single Fan), 06G-P4-6163-KR, 6GB GDDR5
Bought this one because it will run with my 400W power supply. Very happy with it.
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I've got a 3 GB one because they are significantly cheaper.
I just got an EVGA GTX 1060 from Newegg for about $175 (or $155 with the $20 rebate).
It will do everything maxed out (all sliders, all settings, including environment map slider) and keep 60 fps flying around an airbase offline.
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I've got a 3 GB one because they are significantly cheaper.
I just got an EVGA GTX 1060 from Newegg for about $175 (or $155 with the $20 rebate).
It will do everything maxed out (all sliders, all settings, including environment map slider) and keep 60 fps flying around an airbase offline.
Concur. I get 60 fps without breaking a sweat.
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:aok
Looking for new GPU myself :)
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Agreed the 3GB version is cheaper. I opted for the 6 thinking of future proofing and also because it was on sale at the time.
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My DxDiag (First third):
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System Information
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Time of this report: 6/4/2017, 10:24:37
Machine name:
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_ldr.170427-1518)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Alienware
System Model: Aurora-R3
BIOS: BIOS Date: 02/11/11 15:21:57 Ver: 04.06.04
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8174MB RAM
Page File: 7567MB used, 8777MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x671D)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_671D&SUBSYS_0B2A1002&REV_00
Display Memory: 4095 MB
Dedicated Memory: 2032 MB
Shared Memory: 2063 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: SAMSUNG
Monitor Id: SAM094E
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HDMI
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System has dual 6900 Graphics Cards, was told to disable Crossfire, did, saw no appreciable difference...thus looking at New Graphics Card.
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Lastly, Are there any specific Manufacturers that you would suggest I shy away from?
I'll go with the 6G variant...price isn't that much more (Also thinking future-proofing).
Thanks to all who responded!
- Rodent57
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If your system has been able to run the 6900 series in Crossfire mode, even your power supply shouln't have any issues running a 1060. The rest looks good, no bottlenecks I can see.
As for the brand of the new card, it's a multifaceted question. Apart from the obvious technical quality, warranty and customer service are things that people weigh differently. The importance of them also varies depending on where you live. As a general rule of thumb I'd recommend you to stay with the well known high tier brands and vendors.
Also, the makers have several models. As others have already suggested choose one with a backplate and advanced cooling .
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GF 1060 would not help for the screen freezes.
I got one, and still get those freezes. It is really annoying.
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If your system has been able to run the 6900 series in Crossfire mode, even your power supply shouln't have any issues running a 1060. The rest looks good, no bottlenecks I can see.
As for the brand of the new card, it's a multifaceted question. Apart from the obvious technical quality, warranty and customer service are things that people weigh differently. The importance of them also varies depending on where you live. As a general rule of thumb I'd recommend you to stay with the well known high tier brands and vendors.
Also, the makers have several models. As others have already suggested choose one with a backplate and advanced cooling .
Thanks Biz,
I'm taking suggestions on exact make/model...they all look about the same to me (except some have 2 fans and pretty lights!)
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What you are looking at.....
I like 2 fans over one..... cooler is always better.
cuda cores, more is better
clock speeds, higher is better
memory, 6 is better than 3, but be sure its GDDR5
I like to go to NewEgg and use their "compare" feature to narrow it down.
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Get the one with the best cooling, it will be worth it down the road.
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What you are looking at.....
I like 2 fans over one..... cooler is always better.
cuda cores, more is better
clock speeds, higher is better
memory, 6 is better than 3, but be sure its GDDR5
I like to go to NewEgg and use their "compare" feature to narrow it down.
"EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB SSC GAMING ACX 3.0, 6GB GDDR5, LED, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC), 06G-P4-6267-KR"
6GB 192-Bit GDDR5
• Core Clock 1607 MHz
• Boost Clock 1835 MHz
• 1 x Dual-Link DVI-D 1 x HDMI 2.0b 3 x Display Port 1.4
• 1280 CUDA Cores
• PCI Express 3.0
^^^ That do it?
OH! And how the heck do you know if you have a PCI 3?
Sorry for the " tech silly " questions ... I used to have people that did that stuff for me before I became (Re) Retired :-0
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:aok
Looking for new GPU myself :)
Zack -- I really like the GTX 1060 (the cheaper 3 GB one). It seems to have very good performance/price. Also, it's not a power hog. I'm running it on a system with a 350 W PSU.
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Rodent, the version you suggest doesn't have a backplate. See https://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6267-KR (https://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6267-KR). The two models featuring the backplate and improved cooling aren't too much more expensive, IMO.
As for PCI Express 3.0, it's downwards compatible with earlier versions so that should be no issue.
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Zack, since I know you enjoy other games than AH and Sheep Poker nude edition, 1060 is working OK in both CLOD and AH, I probably settle for a 1080 when Vega get introduced, and prices go down a bit, I'm planning on moving to a 32" 2k screen.
I need the extra space for work-related stuff.
My current 780 struggles with CLOD with full-blown towns, and high-meshed trees, but are ok without them.
Below is a link with some performance figures for most higher-end cards
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html)
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Rodent, the version you suggest doesn't have a backplate. See https://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6267-KR (https://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6267-KR). The two models featuring the backplate and improved cooling aren't too much more expensive, IMO.
As for PCI Express 3.0, it's downwards compatible with earlier versions so that should be no issue.
Biz (All),
Thank you again.
Concur that the P/N: 06G-P4-6768-KR isn't significantly more expensive than the similar models. (I'd missed the backplane part.)
- Rodent57
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i went with msi 6 gig as it was cheaper than other manufactures plays the game full everything. even the new clouds. very quiet too.
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Rodent assuming you continue to use your 1080 p 60 mhz monitor I think a 3 GB 1060 would run AH3 with all graphics setting at your monitor's max of 60 fps. If you're thinking of upgrading your monitor you may want to consider more card. I'm happy with my Gigabyte 3 GB 1060 (2 fan wi backplate) running a 75 mhx 1440 p monitor (which takes more GPU than your 1080 p), although the frame rates drop some in some situations, but never close to unplayable, and still all graphics setting maxed except environment mapping set to 1. Good luck with your choice!
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use DX9, instead of DX11 and you normally get rid of freezes.
GF 1060 would not help for the screen freezes.
I got one, and still get those freezes. It is really annoying.
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Jeez. I was just looking at prices for 1060 cards. They are 30% more expensive now than when I bought mine two months ago.
I can't remember the last time I saw computer equipment go up in price substantially over time instead of down.
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It is due to demand from bit coin mining. The demand has gotten to the point where NVidia and AMD are coming out with cards dedicated to mining.
Just a bit of trivia. It currently takes about 165 Kw of electricity to mine one bit coin.
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kWh perhaps? kW is power (a rate, not a quantity), not energy - like saying it takes 60mph to get from Dallas to Austin.
A kWh costs $.12 on average in the US, so that would be a bit less than $20 per bit coin.
Mike
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Typo on my part, yes KWh.
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Jeez. I was just looking at prices for 1060 cards. They are 30% more expensive now than when I bought mine two months ago.
I can't remember the last time I saw computer equipment go up in price substantially over time instead of down.
My 1060 is almost 40% more than I paid for it back in Oct. Here's a link to a brief article that explains the cryptocurrency thing: http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2017/07/gpu-pricing-and-stock-shortage/
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Good news is, it looks like Ethereum is crashing so the video cards pricing should get back in line soon.
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I use a 1060 6Gb card with a new 144 Hz monitor. Game runs FLAWLESSLY.