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Title: Ammo
Post by: Meatwad on November 05, 2020, 01:11:53 PM
Anybody have any luck finding 9mm ammo? Seems this stuff is about as scarce as diamonds and whoever has it in stock price gouges it 500% over cost.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Arlo on November 05, 2020, 01:31:59 PM
Are you out?
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Oldman731 on November 05, 2020, 02:04:39 PM
Anybody have any luck finding 9mm ammo? Seems this stuff is about as scarce as diamonds and whoever has it in stock price gouges it 500% over cost.


https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2020/8/20/ammo-shortage-may-last-until-2021/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=insider&utm_campaign=1120

and

https://www.nrawomen.com/content/where-can-i-find-ammunition-online/

- oldman
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Meatwad on November 05, 2020, 02:39:35 PM
Are you out?

Yep, didnt realize the shortage after purchasing a handgun. I have .22 in case of desperate need. Its a slow trickle on what I can find online, but dont sit good with me knowing im getting pineappled buying some online for $30-50 when it should be $10 a box.  The store here gets a truck randomly and its more of a "right place right time". Bought more .22 this afternoon that just came in and no 9mm came in. But its better then none
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Ramesis on November 05, 2020, 03:13:57 PM
I do not have a problem getting 9mm or 223 ammo...
I know someone... but I cannot reveal who they are... sorry
 :bhead
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Arlo on November 05, 2020, 03:14:54 PM
I do not have a problem getting 9mm or 223 ammo...
I know someone... but I cannot reveal who they are... sorry
 :bhead

Well, then, your post was merely bragging.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Ramesis on November 05, 2020, 03:17:25 PM
Well, then, your post was merely bragging.

Not really... If u look for ammo, u will find it  :D

And btw, are u jealous? Or are u a gun hater?


Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Arlo on November 05, 2020, 03:18:23 PM
Not really... If u look for ammo, u will find it  :D

This post ain't that post.  :cool:
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Vraciu on November 05, 2020, 03:51:09 PM
Anybody have any luck finding 9mm ammo? Seems this stuff is about as scarce as diamonds and whoever has it in stock price gouges it 500% over cost.

*Looks in closet.  Sees 3000 rounds of 9mm.*


Nope.  Found mine just fine.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Meatwad on November 06, 2020, 07:51:10 AM
Found some not too far away an hour after I last posted :)
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Shuffler on November 06, 2020, 08:34:54 AM
Found some not too far away an hour after I last posted :)

Good deal. Folks these days are pretty protective of their supply chain.  I keep plenty on hand of what I need and still purchase some every once in awhile.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Nefarious on November 06, 2020, 09:12:36 AM
Considering recent events of the last 96 hours, it will only be going up in price.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Maverick on November 06, 2020, 10:18:12 AM
Ammo and reloading components have been scarce for several months now. I don't figure it will change for another several months. While there is capacity for firearm production to increase, should additional steel resources be found, the ammo and component producers are already at peak capacity.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Arlo on November 06, 2020, 10:20:40 AM
Considering recent events of the last 96 hours, it will only be going up in price.

Leaning political, Nef. Be careful.   :old:
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: noman on November 06, 2020, 10:22:02 AM
I have had luck at finding 9mm at academy but I .380 is damn well near impossible to find. I can go to my local gun range and buy 1 box if I shoot there. Thinking about trading in the wifes .380 for a 9mm.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: ACE on November 06, 2020, 11:35:02 AM
Still got plenty of 9mm 30-06 this way. Sighted in the other day just in case.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Arlo on November 06, 2020, 11:37:43 AM
There's way too much 'just in case' in this thread not to be considered militantly political.  :frown:
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 06, 2020, 01:12:26 PM
I'm planning on probably buying my first firearm this weekend. Never thought I might actually need one, thought I'd be able to go to neighbors if I needed to. At this point I am legit scared living in Portland and would like to have my own incase mongrals start ravaging the streets.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Ramesis on November 06, 2020, 01:21:09 PM
There's way too much 'just in case' in this thread not to be considered militantly political.  :frown:

Maybe... but in lieu of recent events,  a cut back of the military's budget is likely...
remember, the very first job of our government is to protect the constitution
AND the country... everything else is secondary
 :salute
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: ACE on November 06, 2020, 02:15:49 PM
So correct me if I’m wrong as I’m not an expert on guns. Which shoots better through brush/forest 270 223 3006 or 3030? I’ve always been told 3006 pretty nice through brush.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: ACE on November 06, 2020, 02:18:07 PM
I'm planning on probably buying my first firearm this weekend. Never thought I might actually need one, thought I'd be able to go to neighbors if I needed to. At this point I am legit scared living in Portland and would like to have my own incase mongrals start ravaging the streets.

Highly recommend 9mm for a starter pistol. Imo has less kick than say the 40 I have. What’s the laws like in Portland.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Oldman731 on November 06, 2020, 03:04:50 PM
So correct me if I’m wrong as I’m not an expert on guns. Which shoots better through brush/forest 270 223 3006 or 3030? I’ve always been told 3006 pretty nice through brush.

The old legend was that bigger, heavier bullets were less likely to be deflected by brush than lighter ones.  As the years have passed, that seems more and more like an old wives' tale; a bullet hitting anything is going to be deflected.  But if you like the thought, you'd stick with the .30 calibers you mentioned, as they both have heavier bullets (150 grain for both, 170 for the .30/30 and 180 for the /06) at lower velocities than the first two.

- oldman
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: hitech on November 06, 2020, 03:12:13 PM
I found a bunch using arms list for reasonable prices .Also gave me an excuse to go pick some up with the RV.

Purchased 5k of .45 at 40 cents. 20k of 22 at 6 cents, 2200 rounds of 357 at 45 cents.

And my newest gun to learn.

(https://p1.gunbroker.com/pics/882052000/882052798/pix510562056.jpg)

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882052798


HiTech

Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Eagler on November 06, 2020, 03:15:53 PM
Looks like prices are headed in the 2008 to 2016 price range...and higher

Eagler
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: ACE on November 06, 2020, 03:27:25 PM
Hell yeah Dale sounds like your ready to go. That’s some good deals on ammo just in case.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Meatwad on November 06, 2020, 05:42:01 PM
Ended up roughly .45 cpr on the ones I found on 50 round boxes. Scored 4 boxes before they disappeared
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: hitech on November 06, 2020, 08:17:18 PM
https://www.armslist.com/posts/12474467/dallas-texas-ammo-for-sale--9mm-ammo--200---500-rds

Also found 1800 in corpus for .30 cpr
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 06, 2020, 08:18:37 PM
Highly recommend 9mm for a starter pistol. Imo has less kick than say the 40 I have. What’s the laws like in Portland.

I'm thinking more on the lines of a shotgun. Would really like an AR15 too though. But would probably be more beneficial to have a shotgun right now.

Im not a huge fan of pistols. I like big and bulkie as mistakes are a lot harder to make. Ive shot 45s 40s 9s and 22s,  tech 9s, shotguns, 30 aught 6, ARs, and AKs. Nothing is more scary than a shot gun at close range.

I do like that one hitech posted tho. Very nice.

 I guess I'll just have to see what the shop guy recommends.



Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Oldman731 on November 06, 2020, 09:58:27 PM
And my newest gun to learn.

Very pretty, Colonel, very pretty.

I never fired a K-frame.  Never even held one.  Should be nice!  Consider getting Pachmayr or comparable grips.  You'll see what I mean after you've fired a few rounds.

Seems like revolvers are making a comeback.  Good to hear.

- oldman
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: hitech on November 06, 2020, 10:46:28 PM
Very pretty, Colonel, very pretty.

I never fired a K-frame.  Never even held one.  Should be nice!  Consider getting Pachmayr or comparable grips.  You'll see what I mean after you've fired a few rounds.

Seems like revolvers are making a comeback.  Good to hear.

- oldman

New panel set if grips arived today. I put about 400 rounds   threw it so far. Current grips suck. Also discoved the 38 crud ring. New stainless brush came in today to help with that. Took many hours with just a brass bore brush to remove the ring.

I had been searching for a 4" k frame for about 9 months.

HiTech
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Oldman731 on November 06, 2020, 11:12:55 PM
Also discoved the 38 crud ring. New stainless brush came in today to help with that. Took many hours with just a brass bore brush to remove the ring.


Hah!  Previous owner didn't like how .357 functions in a K-frame with factory grips, so he/she reverted to .38 special.  I can understand that!  Get nice rubber grips.  The S&W action is a delight, Old World craftsmanship.  My Model 28 is far and away the best handgun I have, your 19 should be a treasure once you've tamed the recoil.  Have fun working it up.

- oldman
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: guncrasher on November 06, 2020, 11:16:19 PM
I'm thinking more on the lines of a shotgun. Would really like an AR15 too though. But would probably be more beneficial to have a shotgun right now.

Im not a huge fan of pistols. I like big and bulkie as mistakes are a lot harder to make. Ive shot 45s 40s 9s and 22s,  tech 9s, shotguns, 30 aught 6, ARs, and AKs. Nothing is more scary than a shot gun at close range.

I do like that one hitech posted tho. Very nice.

 I guess I'll just have to see what the shop guy recommends.

get whatever you feel comfortable with.  a few years ago took my wife to get a 9mm, they kept pushing us to a 357, kept telling him that we wanted a 9mm, asked for another salesperson, he said 357 would be better, we left, not sure why they kept pushing the 357.

the only question we had was which 9mm would be better.

also if you don't know how to clean it, then learn till you can do it with your eyes closed while in the classroom with a professional trainer. otherwise don't do like one of my stupid friends. he watched a YouTube video and took apart an ar15, which he had never fired, he asked me to put it back together, i refused, I've fired them but never owned one, never taken one apart.  threw everything in a bag and took him to a gun store and had them do it.  my friend wasn't happy, i didn't give a crap.

anyway, guess my point is have an idea what you want, which you do, but also practice with it, which i think you already know.

congratulating on your first purchase i still have my first gun.

semp
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Maverick on November 07, 2020, 10:37:25 AM
Demonslayer, I recommend some kind of pump shotgun. You do not have to go big bucks for a decent one either. AN 870 is the top standard but there is nothing wrong with Mossberg either. Get some duck ammo for it I'd suggest #4 and since you are on the left coast it would almost certainly be steel shot. If push comes to shove even birdshot #7 in a modified choke gun is good out to about 20 yards or so but duck shot is better if you can't find 0 or 00 buckshot. If you are new to handguns I wouldn't try to get used to one now. You don't have ammo around to get comfortable with it. If you insist on a hand gun get a revolver, in 38 and or 357. Nothing wrong with S&W (the top of the line IMO) or even Taurus.

HiTech. Take a hint from an old wheel gun Cop. For 38 crud rings take a piece of gun cleaning kit rod  (ALUMINUM!!!) and cut it to about 2" longer than your barrel length. 6" for a 4" bbl. Then get your brass brush (NOT STEEL) and chuck the rod into a hand drill. Put the brush on it and after you let the cylinder soak  (wet patches of solvent run through the cylinder) use the chucked brush to clean out the cylinder chambers. Do not let the brush stay in one place but use a slow back and forth movement with it while it is running. High speed not really necessary if variable speed drill.  Similar to honing a cylinder in an engine. It will take out the crud in short order and save time and elbow grease. I had to have my "antique" worn out S&W that I was issued, in like new condition every day for inspection in the academy after having shot it the day before with really cheap dirty ammo. Doing the cleaning in this way took just about a half hour vs a couple hours like my lesser savvy recruits experienced.

Secondly avoid soft lead bullets, the old style roundnose kind like was common 50 years ago. Use jacketed bullets as they leave less crud behind. Hard cast is better than soft lead but it will still leave crud behind. NEVER shoot 38's then load up the 357 to shoot before cleaning. Shoot the magnums for practice first then switch to 38's.

On your 19 keep in mind that yes it IS a 357 but it was not designed for a steady diet of heavy 357 ammo and WILL shoot loose. It will last forever on a diet of 38's and modern 38 ammo is very very effective now just like modern 9mm is. It will still handle a light diet of 357's but make 80% of what you shoot in the 19 be 38's. A model 19 or 66 (pre safety lock) is starting to be a collectors item.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: hitech on November 07, 2020, 10:50:07 AM
Why aluminum and not brass?

HiTech?
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: asterix on November 08, 2020, 04:31:50 AM
Just wondering, is there a law in any of the states that says that if you are an uncle and do not have any children you are not allowed to own a firearm?
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Nefarious on November 08, 2020, 08:42:38 AM
Just wondering, is there a law in any of the states that says that if you are an uncle and do not have any children you are not allowed to own a firearm?

Probably Maryland, New York and California... and certain counties in Illinois.  ;)
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Maverick on November 08, 2020, 09:29:40 AM
Why aluminum and not brass?

HiTech?

Aluminum just the most common metal used in cleaning rods. Brass is soft enough to not mess up the rifling if it contacts the cylinder walls / throat. Just avoid steel rods unless plasticoated. I NEVER use a steel bore brush in the bore of a firearm. Don't use the drill on the barrel either. Expect to use up bore brushes as the spinning tends to shred them fairly easily, fortunately they are pretty cheap. Use a non ammonia solvent with brass brushes as ammonia leaches the copper out of the brass. If the solvent is advertised as dissolving copper fouling use another with brass brush.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: 800nate800 on November 09, 2020, 03:19:18 PM
Leaning political, Nef. Be careful.   :old:
why would you point it out?
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Arlo on November 09, 2020, 04:07:46 PM
why would you point it out?

I like Nef.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: 800nate800 on November 09, 2020, 06:37:11 PM
I like Nef.
we all do  :aok
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Arlo on November 09, 2020, 06:44:12 PM
we all do  :aok

So, why didn't you point it out?  :old:
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Meatwad on November 09, 2020, 07:31:39 PM
Just wondering, is there a law in any of the states that says that if you are an uncle and do not have any children you are not allowed to own SHEEP?

Fixed it
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: hitech on November 11, 2020, 11:07:27 AM
Consider getting Pachmayr or comparable grips.


Purchased some Pachmayr Grippers and shot them for the first time yesterday.  I had previously tried some panel grips, they also sucked.

It is now fun to shoot the model 19. Now to get the grouping down to dime size at 5 yards.

HiTech


Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Oldman731 on November 11, 2020, 02:32:37 PM
Purchased some Pachmayr Grippers and shot them for the first time yesterday.  I had previously tried some panel grips, they also sucked.

It is now fun to shoot the model 19.


Diggit.

- oldman
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Yeager on November 12, 2020, 02:28:24 AM
I still have a couple thousand 9mm from Y2K ~ and .308 and 5.56 and 30m1 carbine and 22lr out the bunghole.   I should hit the range again~
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: hitech on November 12, 2020, 02:11:11 PM
I still have a couple thousand 9mm from Y2K ~ and .308 and 5.56 and 30m1 carbine and 22lr out the bunghole.   I should hit the range again~

That 22lr must be painful, hence I would be glad to help by taking it of your hands.

HiTech
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2020, 04:57:38 PM
That 22lr must be painful, hence I would be glad to help by taking it of your hands.

HiTech

I thought they were out the .... whatever.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Meatwad on November 13, 2020, 07:14:34 AM
When I went to pick up the handgun yesterday, the store just happened to have some 9mm in stock at $17 for 50 round box. Limit of 2 though but I got what I could. The actually had quite a bit of assortment of 38, 44, 45, and rifle ammo in stock for good prices. Bought from another store 3 boxes of .22lr for $8/box of 100.

If anyone travels downstate in IL and MO, check out Rural King and Buchheits stores. You may find what you cant get at the big stores.

Bought a S&W model 915
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Maverick on November 13, 2020, 10:14:03 AM
Purchased some Pachmayr Grippers and shot them for the first time yesterday.  I had previously tried some panel grips, they also sucked.

It is now fun to shoot the model 19. Now to get the grouping down to dime size at 5 yards.

HiTech

I am a huge fan of Pachmeyer grips. On my old competition revolver (S&W 28) I used a set of finger groove grips that were similar in profile to the Hogue composite grips I had on my old duty revolver. The 28 came with a square butt and the smaller grips as opposed to the huge double axe handle that are so common on them. I always hated those big grips and never understood why they were so popular. On my round but frame revolvers I like the old design presentation grips. No finger groves, just smooth profile somewhat like the broomhandle Mauser. To me they are super comfortable.