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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Skyyr on September 11, 2024, 06:03:05 PM
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Show of hands, how many people would be interested in a 1v1 ladder-style tournament, using the same rules and style as BaldEagl's old 1v1 ladder.
Prizes would be gift cards or flight sim equipment.
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I’d be down
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Will there be practice rounds?
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Show of hands, how many people would be interested in a 1v1 ladder-style tournament, using the same rules and style as BaldEagl's old 1v1 ladder.
Prizes would be gift cards or flight sim equipment.
+1
Wonder what the legal stipulations are for friendly wagers or even a buy-in tounament.
On behalf of the community thank you for this whether it happens or not :salute
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Will there be practice rounds?
Only for players who haven't quit the game in the last 12 months.
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I'm in.
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No quitters no spitters?
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For what's it's worth I'll put up the best 8 second fight you ever had! I'm in
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I'm in.
i will buy a logitech 3d pro just for this so i can remind you of who I am outside of strategic bomber gunship play :x
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i will buy a logitech 3d pro just for this so i can remind you of who I am outside of strategic bomber gunship play :x
I got a spare, it’s in the box on my
lap.
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So 6 so far?
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Players can choose their preference plane?
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Players can choose their preference plane?
Aside from the first plane choice (which is based on the ladder position), the loser of each round picks the next round's plane. Each fight is same plane vs same plane.
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In case you haven't found them, here's an iteration of the rules for the bracket-styled tournament.
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,269285.msg3365415.html#msg3365415
copypasta
First a re-post of the rules. I added a section on posting films for contested duels:
Rules:
- Brackets will be determined by random draw of names out of a hat (or other convenient container).
- If there are odd numbers of players I will work them into the brackets although they may have to fly more or less rounds than other players. They will be those chosen last in the random draw.
- Duels must be arranged between the players by PM, IM, e-mail or other means to take place by midnight CDT Sunday following each bracket update (6 days).
- Duels will be best of three.
- First duel plane selection will be assigned using a random number generator to select from all availble fighter and fighter/attack aircraft (except the Me163 and Me262). This will be done individually for each set of duelers.
- The loser of each duel selects the aircraft for the next duel. This allows the loser to pick his/her best aircraft to get back into contention and if it goes three rounds each player will have had one plane selection.
- All duels will take place in the DA canyon area.
- All duels will be 25% fuel loadout with players choice of gun package and convergence.
- All merges will be guns cold (no firing until you have passed your opponent's 3/9 line).
- All merges will be co-alt at 10K until within icon range at which point a merge break can begin.
- Anything goes after the initial merge.
- In the case of a draw (both run out of fuel for instance) that duel will be re-fought using the same aircraft.
- In the case of a collision:
* If only one player collides (only one gets the collision message) the duel continues.
* If both players collide (both get the collision message) the duel immediately ends and will be re-started in the same planes.
- Intentionally ditching or bailing constitutes forfieture of the duel.
- The intent is for players to remain in close proximity to one another (2-3K max). That said if at any time the players lose icon range on one another the duel ends immediately and will be re-started using the same planes. This should allow a dueler to simply turn away from a runner to nullify the duel.
- If an uninvited third party interrupts the duel the duel is immediately ended and will be re-started using the same plane. The dueling participants may move to another mutually agreed upon set of fields in the DA in this instance.
- Once one player has been shot down and the other recieves a kill message the duel ends. There is no need to land.
- Both players will film all duels in case of a dispute.
- The losing player will post in this thread after the duel series in the following format:
Plane - Winner
Plane - Winner
Plane - Winner (if needed)
The loser posting is a means to verify that the results are uncontested. If the loser hasn't posted by the deadline then the winner may post the results but they will be deemed contested.
- If a duel series is contested the contesting player must post their films at a public hosting web-site and link them to this thread by the deadline. It will be preferred if both players do this.
- This information must be posted by no later than 12:00 midnight Central Daylight Time Sunday following the posting of the updated bracket so that I can get the brackets updated and re-posted on Monday.
- If a player does not show within 15 minutes of the arranged time they forfiet the series. In that case the winner by default must post a screenshot of the DA roster showing that the opponent is a no show no later than 12:00 midnight CDT Sunday following posting of the updated bracket.
- If a duel cannot be arranged between the players or nothing has been posted regarding results in the alloted time one player will be selected by random draw to advance to the next round.
- In the case of contested results both players films will be reviewed by the review committee and a determination will be posted no later than 48 hours after the initial posting deadline. The review committee may overturn posted results. If a clean determination of a winner cannot be made a winner will be selected by random draw. The review committee's determination will be final. Because this will delay both the winner's and his/her next opponent's ability to arrange their next duel it is in the best interest of everyone that the players reach an agreeable conclusion to their duels on their own. In any case, then next duels deadlines WILL NOT be delayed.
(https://i.postimg.cc/2SpffNG5/Bracket-12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hf0Y9wHF)
===========LADDER==============
There was also a ladder-style setup that was more on-going and dynamic, but the tourney-style bracket was fun, too. The rules might be lost in the squad forums (Dogfighter Club) but here's what I had saved.
Dueling Ladder General Rules: Season 1, Oct 2011 - March 2012
1. May challenge up to 3 spots above on the ladder.
2. May issue challenges up to 3 times per week, no repeat challenges.
3. Challenges shall be posted in the Ladder Thread, but PM's are encouraged.
4. Challenges may not be declined. A mutually agreeable time must be agreed upon and occur within a one week time span from the issuance of the challenge. Failure to complete a challenge will result in an automatic loss for the Challengee.
5. Results must be posted in the Ladder Thread by the loser, as simple as "I lost" or a complete writeup... have fun with it.
6. Record film from takeoff until 5 seconds past the kill message. Victor must be in controlled flight for these 5 seconds, at which point they must auger, ditch or bail.
7. The winner of the challenge will retain the higher ranked rung, loser will retain lower rung.
8. At least one challenge per month must be issued or a player will be considered inactive. Inactive players will drop three rungs per month per ADS*
a. If you have fought a Challenge, you do not need to initiate a Challenge for purposes of ADS.
9. Initial rankings will be based on random draw. New players joining after this draw will be placed at the bottom of the ladder.
10. The top spot may challenge anyone else on the ladder and is not limited by the 3 slot rule. If they lose they switch rungs with the winner.
11. A Ladder software program will be utilized to test it's feasibility. For now it will be handled manually.
a. Wins and loses will be displayed by date/time of duel.
b. A ranking system based off wins and loses will be given.
Dueling Ladder Rules of Engagement
1. All duels will occur in the DA in the low, mid or high alt field areas.
2. Number of fights is determined by the rung of the challenger
a. Ranked 20+ will be best of 3.
b. Ranked 6 - 19 will be best of 5.
c. Ranked 1 - 5 will be best of 7.
3. The Challenger has choice of the first plane, loser subsequently.
a. Only fighters may be chosen.
b. Fuel will be 25% - if both run out of fuel, the duel will be re-done.
c. Ammo loadout is optional unless mutually agreed upon. No restrictions on emptying ammo.
4. Challenger will have initial choice of fields to use, then loser subsequently.
a. There will be a +3k above chosen field altitude, pre-icon alt-cap. For example if the fields are 2k, the alt-cap is 5k.
b. Neither may exceed this alt-cap until icon is acquired, at which point pilots may begin maneuvering and anything goes.
5. HO's are not expressly forbidden, but excessive use may result in ejection from the ladder. Front Quarter shots are what they are, deal with it.****
6. Neither may extend beyond 2.5k icon range from their opponent. Doing so results in an automatic loss.
7. Collisions at initial merge result in a draw and shall be re-fought. Collisions after the initial merge shall stand, unless both parties agree to a do-over.
8. Disconnects will be considered a random mechanical failure and result in the loss of that fight.
9. F3 mode... don't even - auto ejection from ladder.
Dueling Ladder TOP DOGs (Rungs 1 - 3) Rules
1. First player to win 3 consecutive matches moves to Rung #3
2. First player to win 4 consecutive matches moves to Rung #2
3. First player to win 5 consecutive matches moves to TOP DOG, Rung #1
4. This gives all players a chance at the start of the season an opportunity to obtain these positions. Once the TOP DOG rungs have been filled, all players must win their way up the ladder in typical challenge fashion.
* Automatic Degradation System: All Ladder Duelers must Duel at least once per month in order to maintain their place. For every month they do not Duel, they will move down 3 rungs. Example: If the order of the Duelers is INK,Prono,Irishone,Zoney,Debrody.... and INK and Irishone do not duel in that month, the new order would be Prono, Zoney, INk, Debrody, Irishone,
**** More on the "HO" shot......this Ladder is for those of us that enjoy a fight, for those of us who want to get better at ACM, to be able to fight those that you may not get a chance to in the arenas without being horded.....so if we as a Dueling community feel someone is not here for the right reasons. i.e., a good fight.....and they choose to just HO every fight without any ACM....an ejection thread will be started we will try to encourage this individual to change his ways if they still refuse and just HO every fight they will be ejected from the Ladder. Again, the HO shot is just a coin toss.....it has NO PLACE in a dueling Ladder where good fights are expected.
These rules were by adapted by INK from the DFC dueling rules and edited by Shane for clarity.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Mp0g2MXs/dfc-ladder-4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvHFfJRY)
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I don't expect to advance very far, but I might could try :joystick:
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So this wouldn’t necessarily be a bracket?
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So this wouldn’t necessarily be a bracket?
I guess it would depend on how many players participate. I always thought these style of competitions were "bracket" style, but apparently there's nuance to the terms "bracket" vs "ladder."
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So this wouldn’t necessarily be a bracket?
I'm sure that's the intended setup design what with the prizes and all.
I just threw out the ladder-style as being more ongoing, dynamic and ego-centric :noid :banana: :bolt:
edit to differentiate bracket vs ladder:
Brackets are set pieces with a very clear start/end and anointing of a winner, while ladders are more open-ended with perhaps a seasonal (or monthly or whatever) end point and no one is eliminated, just ranked... you can view ladders as a kind of current and floating "ranking" while a bracket is winner take-all in that particular moment. The other difference would be that in a bracket there are numerous players you would never encounter while the ladder provides access to a broader cross-section of the competition.
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What’s the qualifications? :airplane:
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Sounds like fun win or lose.
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how many people would be interested in a 1v1 ladder-style tournament...
If I can just clarify some of the finer points of the rules before signing up:
Will it be allowed to log into someone else’s account and fly on their behalf pretending to be them or is that privilege only extended to the organiser? I think this is a perfectly reasonable question given the organiser has done this on at least two occasions that we know of and even presented a YouTube video clearly demonstrating this (presumably in the interests of ‘unbridled competition’). - How could that be monitored?
Regarding spectating: will spectators in CM mode be allowed to be distributed on each side of the competition and will extra information not available to one of the competitors be allowed to be supplied to the other on Discord, say, or is that privilege only extended to the organiser and his squamates as openly demonstrated nowadays in the MA? - How could that be monitored?
Theoretically would any practically-advantageous selective packet-dropping software (to replicate TheJudge's unique internet connection) outside of the game be allowed such as the organiser was once caught using causing him to be ejected - in disgrace - from the real Damned squadron leading to his creation of a fake Damned Squadron because he cannot accept any wrongdoing on his part nor any authority over him? - How could that be monitored?
Given the motivation that playing-to-win-by-any-means-necessary is the only allowable culture now in AH, would aimbot software - if available - be allowed and if not then why not and how could it be monitored that everyone involved is not cheating by not using it?
Regarding the spirit of the endeavour - a meaningful question to those who are developed sufficient to know the score means basically nothing in isolation*: is the offering gift vouchers and economical flight gear and the further arranging of such a tournament designed to encourage a focus on developing ACM and respectful fights between fellow players, or is it - as has been demonstrated by the last eleven-months of activity in game and on this forum another one of those ‘total domination’ bragfests underpinned by profound insecurity, personality-disorders and toxic-griefing of selected individuals supported by the usual full High Definition YouTube videos, external to HiTech’s game? - How could that be monitored?
How can the last eleven months of in-game and on-forum and on YouTube activities be resolved with the essential impartiality and pre-assumed honesty and integrity necessary to host such an event given the observable shortcomings of the host in these areas? - How could honesty and integrity be monitored?
Yeah nah, having thought about it I realise you can't monotor any of those things and somehow I can’t trust the motivations and especially the organiser. One thing I’ve learned in the last year you can’t change a disturbed person but you can choose to not associate with them or be exposed to their toxicity. I think I have better things to do. Skorpions aren't cool and hard, they're just nasty little bugs that can't help but sting their own boat. Parabolically speaking.
I do apologise in advance if I have inadvertently broken any forum rules. I'm sure under Skuzzy's phase this would have been the case. But I only drop in here now occassionally to check PMs.
I had merely intended to pay my respects to TC whose departure I heard about from other channels. I was forced to guage what is acceptible by what has been going on in the last half a year, say, so apologies again if kicking a dickhead in his testicles at any opportunity as he has demonstrated himself as the norm, is in fact not the norm.
Good luck with it all and I hope you all understand excatly what you would be signing up for and thoroughly enjoy the experience.
<Salute> to some of you.
*Did you know the first Porsche entered in Le Mans and famously WINNING was the only car entered in its class and it merely had to complete the course at the chequered flag and was in essence a Volkswagen, known for doing not much more than actually finishing. Porsche sold an awful lot of cars on that piece of BS. Funny old world.
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I’m out.
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a lot of words
A simple "no" would have sufficed. :D
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tl;dr
Well seeing as you quit and stated it would be for a very long time, if not permanently, I can safely say none of these things are anything you would have to worry about as you wouldn't be entered into it.
Also I'm not the organizer.
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Well seeing as you quit and stated it would be for a very long time, if not permanently, I can safely say none of these things are anything you would have to worry about as you wouldn't be entered into it.
Also I'm not the organizer.
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You probably shouldn't be the spokesman for it then..
Eagler
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I got a spare, it’s in the box on my
lap.
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You have to have performed step 1 and step 2 for that to work.
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If I can just clarify some of the finer points of the rules before signing up:
Will it be allowed to log into someone else’s account and fly on their behalf pretending to be them or is that privilege only extended to the organiser? I think this is a perfectly reasonable question given the organiser has done this on at least two occasions that we know of and even presented a YouTube video clearly demonstrating this (presumably in the interests of ‘unbridled competition’). - How could that be monitored?
Regarding spectating: will spectators in CM mode be allowed to be distributed on each side of the competition and will extra information not available to one of the competitors be allowed to be supplied to the other on Discord, say, or is that privilege only extended to the organiser and his squamates as openly demonstrated nowadays in the MA? - How could that be monitored?
Theoretically would any practically-advantageous selective packet-dropping software (to replicate TheJudge's unique internet connection) outside of the game be allowed such as the organiser was once caught using causing him to be ejected - in disgrace - from the real Damned squadron leading to his creation of a fake Damned Squadron because he cannot accept any wrongdoing on his part nor any authority over him? - How could that be monitored?
Given the motivation that playing-to-win-by-any-means-necessary is the only allowable culture now in AH, would aimbot software - if available - be allowed and if not then why not and how could it be monitored that everyone involved is not cheating by not using it?
Regarding the spirit of the endeavour - a meaningful question to those who are developed sufficient to know the score means basically nothing in isolation*: is the offering gift vouchers and economical flight gear and the further arranging of such a tournament designed to encourage a focus on developing ACM and respectful fights between fellow players, or is it - as has been demonstrated by the last eleven-months of activity in game and on this forum another one of those ‘total domination’ bragfests underpinned by profound insecurity, personality-disorders and toxic-griefing of selected individuals supported by the usual full High Definition YouTube videos, external to HiTech’s game? - How could that be monitored?
How can the last eleven months of in-game and on-forum and on YouTube activities be resolved with the essential impartiality and pre-assumed honesty and integrity necessary to host such an event given the observable shortcomings of the host in these areas? - How could honesty and integrity be monitored?
Yeah nah, having thought about it I realise you can't monotor any of those things and somehow I can’t trust the motivations and especially the organiser. One thing I’ve learned in the last year you can’t change a disturbed person but you can choose to not associate with them or be exposed to their toxicity. I think I have better things to do. Skorpions aren't cool and hard, they're just nasty little bugs that can't help but sting their own boat. Parabolically speaking.
I do apologise in advance if I have inadvertently broken any forum rules. I'm sure under Skuzzy's phase this would have been the case. But I only drop in here now occassionally to check PMs.
I had merely intended to pay my respects to TC whose departure I heard about from other channels. I was forced to guage what is acceptible by what has been going on in the last half a year, say, so apologies again if kicking a dickhead in his testicles at any opportunity as he has demonstrated himself as the norm, is in fact not the norm.
Good luck with it all and I hope you all understand excatly what you would be signing up for and thoroughly enjoy the experience.
<Salute> to some of you.
*Did you know the first Porsche entered in Le Mans and famously WINNING was the only car entered in its class and it merely had to complete the course at the chequered flag and was in essence a Volkswagen, known for doing not much more than actually finishing. Porsche sold an awful lot of cars on that piece of BS. Funny old world.
:aok (https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExcGJneG12MHZ5MDNwYTgwcXF3dnZkNjk3MHEzaWR4MG41dGlpczJpNyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/26AHLBZUC1n53ozi8/giphy.gif)
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Sounds like a good time, sign me up! +1 :salute :cheers:
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As was the case with KOTH rule enforcement is critical!
As silly as it sounds in todays world and an online environment there will be no way you can guarantee the rules will be followed as honor and integrity isn’t at a level it used to be and would need to be in this event.
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why you stirring up sheet when you cant back anything up? This is a "what are you doing for me now" world everyone is living on :rofl
Wastin, where are you? Bawk bawk bawk
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As was the case with KOTH rule enforcement is critical!
As silly as it sounds in todays world and an online environment there will be no way you can guarantee the rules will be followed as honor and integrity isn’t at a level it used to be and would need to be in this event.
It's 1v1s. Both players film the entire sortie and submit film. There's not any other rules to enforce, especially if air spawns are used in Matchplay or a custom arena.
I can get where some people might think this is hard, simply recording every sortie.
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Id be open to helping with organizing
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How do you guarantee your fighting the person you think you are?
Or if it’s just them or who know that’s chiming in.
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How do you guarantee your fighting the person you think you are?
Or if it’s just them or who know that’s chiming in.
I have three seperate responses to that:
1) logging into someone else's account is a violation of use policy, I believe, so we could always ask Hitech to confirm
2) personally, I'm not sure why I would care if someone else is logging in to my opponent's account. If I get beat, I get beat. Who cares what their name is or isn't? It seems to me this is just an arbitrary worry of ego.
3) nrshida is a liar to the previous accusations and I'm willing to even pull Hitech in to confirm it. What nrshida witnessed was too much for his imagination to handle, so he assumed foul play must have occurred.
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I have three seperate responses to that:
1) logging into someone else's account is a violation of use policy, I believe, so we could always ask Hitech to confirm
2) personally, I'm not sure why I would care if someone else is logging in to my opponent's account. If I get beat, I get beat. Who cares what their name is or isn't? It seems to me this is just an arbitrary worry of ego.
3) nrshida is a liar to the previous accusations and I'm willing to even pull Hitech in to confirm it. What nrshida witnessed was too much for his imagination to handle, so he assumed foul play must have occurred.
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You don't see the issue with number 2?
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You don't see the issue with number 2?
I never said I didn't see an issue; I said I personally wouldn't be worried about who I was fighting, regardless of the name they used. If I were to fly in such an event, I'd be much more concerned about winning than who I might lose to.
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3) nrshida is a liar
Sadly no, nrshida is an excellent amateur detective who caught Skyyr cheating. Again.
I'm willing to even pull Hitech in to confirm it.
How uncharacteristically noble of you. Just snap your fingers and he'd appear to support you like a butler is it? I think you will find HiTech can think for himself.
An evidenced accusation is not by definition a lie. HiTech is welcome to discuss my findings if he wishes. I am - not for the first time - entirely at his disposal. Of course there'd be two players to ban, the one who logged into the other's account and the other for sharing log-in details to do so. Had that not occured or do you have a track record of throwing others under the bus with you? How disappointing.
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Sadly no, nrshida is an excellent amateur detective who caught Skyyr cheating. Again.
How uncharacteristically noble of you. Just snap your fingers and he'd appear to support you like a butler is it? I think you will find HiTech can think for himself.
An evidenced accusation is not by definition a lie. HiTech is welcome to discuss my findings if he wishes. I am - not for the first time - entirely at his disposal. Of course there'd be two players to ban, the one who logged into the other's account and the other for sharing log-in details to do so. Had that not occured or do you have a track record of throwing others under the bus with you? How disappointing.
Orrr... you were too stupid to realize that two players used the "Change Callsign" option in-game and swapped IDs.
Yes, that makes you both a liar and utterly unimaginative. No, you don't get to do your stupid little dance or reversal and claim "I meant that." No, you claimed I logged into someone else's account. I have NEVER done so. If you're dumb enough to press this issue, this is my open request to have Hitech to confirm the above, if he feels so inclined.
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Orrr... you were too stupid to realize that two players used the "Change Callsign" option in-game and swapped IDs.
Yes, that makes you both a liar and utterly unimaginative. No, you don't get to do your stupid little dance or reversal and claim "I meant that." No, you claimed I logged into someone else's account. I have NEVER done so. If you're dumb enough to press this issue, this is my open request to have Hitech to confirm the above, if he feels so inclined.
Are you emotional? You sound emotional. Dangerous to guess what I know.
You carry on your typical forum routine thinking you can spin and manipulate out of every situation YOU put yourself in. I think we'll go with the suggestion to let HiTech examine evidence.
"You reap what you sow" - I saw that painted on a stabiliser of a Halifax.
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Are you emotional? You sound emotional. Dangerous to guess what I know.
You carry on your typical forum routine thinking you can spin and manipulate out of every situation YOU put yourself in. I think we'll go with the suggestion to let HiTech examine evidence.
"You reap what you sow" - I saw that painted on a stabiliser of a Halifax.
Thats a lot of words to say "crap, I was wrong."
Please feel free to PM Hitech or call him and refer him to the post here. And I guarantee you that you don't have the balls or intestinal fortitude to post when you're proven to be wrong.
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There is not enough credibility, integrity or good-will in the event organizer for me to risk partaking in such misadventure.
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...two players used the "Change Callsign" option in-game and swapped IDs
Let me take a wild guess. Vraciu challenged someone to a duel, so you changed your call sign to Vraciu and fought on his behalf. Yeah that sounds about right.
No one in their right mind would participate in anything you touch.
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Orrr... you were too stupid to realize that two players used the "Change Callsign" option in-game and swapped IDs.
So you are saying you and Vraciu swapped IDs for the event in question?
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So you are saying you and Vraciu swapped IDs for the event in question?
There was no event nor did I mention names. I'm saying that the accusations which occurred are lies and two members swapped IDs using valid game mechanics (change ID) in the MA and DA during normal gameplay, to which smooth-brain types like nrshida claimed that I had logged into someone else's account.
No event, just normal day-to-day gameplay.
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There is not enough credibility, integrity or good-will in the event organizer for me to risk partaking in such misadventure.
He said he wouldn’t be organizing.
What risk would there really be to participate? If the match play arena was used you wouldn’t even need a subscription.
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... two members swapped IDs using valid game mechanics (change ID) in the MA and DA during normal gameplay
Quite the hole you just dug yourself... Again. In whose mind would doing something like this be considered "normal"? Just another example of the extremes you'll go to to cheat the game and its community. As pathetic as this makes you, it makes Vraciu is even worse than I previously even imagined.
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Quite the hole you just dug yourself... Again. In whose mind would doing something like this be considered "normal"? Just another example of the extremes you'll go to to cheat the game and it's community. As pathetic as this makes you, it makes Vraciu is even worse than I previously even imagined.
Please, praytell, how is voluntarily switching callsigns "cheating"?
By claiming that's cheating, you've dug yourself in a pit that no amount of backpedaling will get you out of. Go ahead, explain. :rofl
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Please, praytell, how is voluntarily switching callsigns "cheating"?
Oh, so it wasn't done as part of any deception then? Yeah, right.
The fact that you don't recognize the problem with it says everything, and is the least surprising thing I've read today.
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Please, praytell, how is voluntarily switching callsigns "cheating"?
By claiming that's cheating, you've dug yourself in a pit that no amount of backpedaling will get you out of. Go ahead, explain. :rofl
Might not be a violation of terms or morays but it’s a clear violation of trust and that’s pretty much all we have left here.
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Oh, so it wasn't done as part of any deception then? Yeah, right.
The fact that you don't recognize the problem with it says everything, and is the least surprising thing I've read today.
Nope. We did it to confuse and troll the Muppets and POTW at the time; it was pretty funny watching them go nuts when they were getting nailed at 1000yds with 30mm and saying "how TF did <playername> make that shot?! They don't even fly 109s!?!" Which ironically led them to beating their chests and challenging said players to the DA... which did not end well for them.
That's not cheating, that's having genuine fun - and it IS fun, because 9 years later, they're still beating their heads against a wall claiming "cheat" and they never realized what happened. It was completely fun and legitimate.
That said, you're purposely dodging the question because you realized you stated something false ("cheating"). Got it.
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There was no event nor did I mention names. I'm saying that the accusations which occurred are lies and two members swapped IDs using valid game mechanics (change ID) in the MA and DA during normal gameplay, to which smooth-brain types like nrshida claimed that I had logged into someone else's account.
No event, just normal day-to-day gameplay.
So how did it go down? Since both IDs were in use, did someone change their name to something different? Then of course, it must be kept for 30 days until it can be changed back...
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That said, you're purposely dodging the question because you realized you stated something false ("cheating"). Got it.
If you read what I wrote, you'll note that I said that this is typical behavior for you to "cheat the game and its community". The example you give is exactly that.
I wonder how many other times you've pulled this trick? How many other such tricks (cheats) are you not letting on about?
For anyone skimming who's considering participation in Skyyr's latest "look at me" attempt, take note that if you're matched against an easy win, for example Vraciu, Skyyr will change his call sign to "Vraciu" and fly the match in his stead.
According to Skyyr it is within the rules so there's nothing wrong with that.
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So how did it go down? Since both IDs were in use, did someone change their name to something different? Then of course, it must be kept for 30 days until it can be changed back...
This occurred 9 years ago, but since you asked:
Player #1 creates a new account, player #2 changes ID, player #1 creates ID using player #2's name.
When done, player #1 gets to change their name again (since they've never used a name change). Player #2 creates another account to reclaim the ID and either fly using that new account or waiting until the timer resets on their original account.
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If you read what I wrote, you'll note that I said that this is typical behavior for you to "cheat the game and its community". The example you give is exactly that.
I wonder how many other times you've pulled this trick? How many other such tricks (cheats) are you not letting on about?
For anyone skimming who's considering participation in Skyyr's latest "look at me" attempt, take note that if you're matched against an easy win, for example Vraciu, Skyyr will change his call sign to "Vraciu" and fly the match in his stead.
According to Skyyr it is within the rules so there's nothing wrong with that.
So using another name is cheating the community? You're digging yourself deeper brah. You just implied anyone with a shade account is a cheater.
Re: tournament rules; (un)fortunately, you're wrong.
Every player here is required to provide the ID they will be using. This was always a requirement of tournaments. Ergo, to change IDs to anything other than the one you are using is cheating. It's pretty simple.
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Player #1 creates a new account, player #2 changes ID, player #1 creates ID using player #2's name.
When done, player #1 gets to change their name again (since they've never used a name change). Player #2 creates another account to reclaim the ID and either fly using that new account or waiting until the timer resets on their original account.
Dude.. you need to leave..the levels you stoop to are the lowest. I don't doubt your good at the game, but you need a psychiatric check, and some another few years away from here.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt when you were allowed back, but you are just a dick.
Iver never seen a positive interaction with you, and well.. the fact you think anyone wants to do anything like this that you're associated with is almost funny.
You detract from this community.
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Dude.. you need to leave
Well this occurred 9 years ago and no mention was made of which members did it, sooo...
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Dude.. you need to leave
It is insane that he feels this is all perfectly fine. I mean, who even thinks of this stuff?
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It is insane that he feels this is all perfectly fine. I mean, who even thinks of this stuff?
The same players who have been telling you that you can legitimately track enemies using the score page.
One day you'll realize we're dead serious lol.
Did you know you can fly almost any plane without a vstab indefinitely and controllably? :rofl
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I mean, who even thinks of this stuff?
Someone who's trolling.
Can we let this thread get back on track though. If you have interest in competing in a bracket/tournament show your interest. If you aren't interested you probably don't even have to waste your time posting.
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Well this occurred 9 years ago and no mention was made of which members did it, sooo...
Hey man, it's nothing personal.. I don't have a problem with you as a person. How you act here though apparently has some people a little bothered, rightfully so I'd say.
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Someone who's trolling.
Can we let this thread get back on track though. If you have interest in competing in a bracket/tournament show your interest. If you aren't interested you probably don't even have to waste your time posting.
+1
Also, to all those sending PM's - please post here as well. I appreciate PMs, but it's easier to keep track if everyone posts in the same thread.
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Vraciu vs JunkyII 1v1 Duels - Aces High II
Skyyr
212 subscribers
259 views Dec 31, 2017
Vraciu, a good friend of mine, asked me to publish this video of him fighting JunkyII from some time ago.
Backstory to the duel: Vraciu trained under me for several months and managed to master, among many things, the merge. Junky and Vraciu got into a trash-talking spat, where Junky claimed that he could beat Vraciu, even if Vraciu started on his six with alt. Vraciu agreed and the fight here transpired.
After some goofing around, the actual co-alt duels start at 16:00 time in the video. Vraciu wins 3-0 vs Junky.
Seriously, I couldn't be prouder of Vraciu's skills and improvement during the time I flew with him.
=S=
Ooooooooh, seriously, literally, literally, literally, I'm not even joking it's in the past! Needn't worry then. We'll all just forget about it. Time heals everything and I'm sure you would be willing to write an apology to JunkyII, since you mentioned balls and intestinal fortitude.
Let’s not get bogged down with irrelevant minutiae of method which produce exactly the same result. Maybe I am an idiot, but at least I understand the distiction between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. Besides it doesn't really matter what I think, nor does it matter what you think despite your implied control and ownership. This is HiTech's sandpit, not yours. It's for him to decide if it is acceptable for one player to systematically drive other players away by whatever sly method their diseased imagination can come up with. Also there were sufficient other evidenced allegations to make this look like Ted Bundy going postal over an incorrect parking ticket while on trial for mass-murder.
Anyway let's keep this on topic: the matter is easily resolved by a simple clarification of this bracket’s proposed rules:-
- Will competitors be allowed to change their in-game IDs to those of other active entrants, without announcing it publicly and then uploading YouTube videos further gas lighting other entrants in order to falsely represent their results or their squad's results or is this privilege only extended to the organiser and his squamates as he claims himself in this very thread to have done already? Obviously this needs to be clarified as it would cast doubt over future, present and past results in both the MA, the MPA and also in KotH. In the eventuality of discovering such a violation, would both the owner of the now fake ID and the one flying under the fake ID be banned from Aces High forever, or just the latter? - How could this be monitored?
- Will non Fake Damned entrants who are allowed to win a prize by the organiser (since prizes was mentioned, not a prize - pretty sure that's already been decided) be required to supply their postal addresses to the organiser under the pretention of sending Logitech joysticks to the peasants. I mean winners. I think this needs clarification since we know the orgniser has a pistol and has clearly lost all sense of proportion over what he sometimes describes as: just a game. - How could this be monitred?
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This is HiTech's sandpit, not yours. It's for him to decide if it is acceptable for one player to systematically drive other players away by whatever sly method their diseased imagination can come up with.
- Will competitors be allowed to change their in-game IDs to those of other active entrants, without announcing it publicly and then uploading YouTube videos further gas lighting other entrants in order to falsely represent their results or their squad's results or is this privilege only extended to the organiser and his squamates as he claims himself in this very thread to have done already? Obviously this needs to be clarified as it would cast doubt over future, present and past results in both the MA, the MPA and also in KotH. In the eventuality of discovering such a violation, would both the owner of the now fake ID and the one flying under the fake ID be banned from Aces High forever, or just the latter? - How could this be monitored?
- Will non Fake Damned entrants who are allowed to win a prize by the organiser (since prizes was mentioned, not a prize - pretty sure that's already been decided) be required to supply their postal addresses to the organiser under the pretention of sending Logitech joysticks to the peasants. I mean winners. I think this needs clarification since we know the orgniser has a pistol and has clearly lost all sense of proportion over what he sometimes describes as: just a game. - How could this be monitred?
haha that was rich! well stated
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He said he wouldn’t be organizing.
What risk would there really be to participate? If the match play arena was used you wouldn’t even need a subscription.
Say out of good fortune I do luck my way to win a prize, it would not be safe in any way what so ever to supply my postal address to Skyyr, the supplier of said prizes.
Only somebody very naive would be willing to hand over such sensitive information, because not even a picture of myself from my Facebook or Instagram was safe in his hands.
It's wonderful that HiTech has made that arena Free of cost/subscription, however you couldn't pay me to walk into this dumpster fire suggested by Stalkyyr.
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Vraciu vs JunkyII 1v1 Duels - Aces High II
Skyyr
212 subscribers
259 views Dec 31, 2017
Vraciu, a good friend of mine, asked me to publish this video of him fighting JunkyII from some time ago.
Backstory to the duel: Vraciu trained under me for several months and managed to master, among many things, the merge. Junky and Vraciu got into a trash-talking spat, where Junky claimed that he could beat Vraciu, even if Vraciu started on his six with alt. Vraciu agreed and the fight here transpired.
After some goofing around, the actual co-alt duels start at 16:00 time in the video. Vraciu wins 3-0 vs Junky.
Seriously, I couldn't be prouder of Vraciu's skills and improvement during the time I flew with him.
=S=
Ooooooooh, seriously, literally, literally, literally, I'm not even joking it's in the past! Needn't worry then. We'll all just forget about it. Time heals everything and I'm sure you would be willing to write an apology to JunkyII, since you mentioned balls and intestinal fortitude.
I think at the time that even raised my eyebrow, because Vraciu sucks balls flying, he was an utter garbage BnZrunner in a P51, easily reversible, and even worse co-E.
Junky was so much more of a TnB pilot than that of Vraciu that the result I considered guilty of or involving deceit by use of a program supplied by xPoisonx, or Skyyr flying for him.
I'm sure I stated in the recent past I wouldn't duel Vraciu because "it would be like dueling Skyyr", how apt..
This raises the question of so much more involving Vraciu, especially what of his post-Junky accomplishments were gained legitimately/in person.
Able to pull the wool over the eyes once, there is always going to be a second and a third or more until busted or admittance... Only now is it brought into the light and it's 2024.
.. Wait I think this is also yet another time Vraciu has ended up under the proverbial bus at the hands of Skyyr... That must be getting tiring..
Everything they touch turns to toejam. They cannot do a single thing fairly, legitimately, honorably, impartial or honest.
I feel utter pity for their squad members, forever tainted.
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Becoming a fan, i am.
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Insert digging hole animated gif here
Eagler
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I won't survive too long, but I'm game...
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There is not enough credibility, integrity or good-will in the event organizer for me to risk partaking in such misadventure.
I agree. It would be a safer bet to let Bernie Madoff handle my investment portfolio.
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I'll only play if skyrr can use my callsign
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Let’s not get bogged down with irrelevant minutiae of method which produce exactly the same result. Maybe I am an idiot
Aaaaand there's the attempt to deflect from the fact you did, in fact, lie in your assertions. lol
Say out of good fortune I do luck my way to win a prize, it would not be safe in any way what so ever to supply my postal address to Skyyr, the supplier of said prizes.
Only somebody very naive would be willing to hand over such sensitive information, because not even a picture of myself from my Facebook or Instagram was safe in his hands.
It's wonderful that HiTech has made that arena Free of cost/subscription, however you couldn't pay me to walk into this dumpster fire suggested by Stalkyyr.
Trust me, we don't want any of you crazies having our personal info either. That's why we would be using digital gift cards and vouchers.
I'll only play if skyrr can use my callsign
Hmmm... maybe.
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tl:dnr
Voldermort admitted to cheating, to avoid being caught cheating and to be seen to be clever. What a spineless spin doctor. It's priceless to watch him wriggling.
"The tables have turned, HiTech is on Slyyr's six, with no squadmates to run to, out of energy and with yellow fluid leaking from his cockpit, Slyyr knows it's about it end..." - New Dogfights episode at 10.00pm
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Trust me, we don't want any of you crazies having our personal info either.
I only think it fair to give your personal information to your nearest psychiatric hospital, to give the voices a break from you.
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So no Skyyr Tournament? :rofl :aok
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Decent amount of people seem interested, perhaps enough for a small bracket.
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So no Skyyr Tournament? :rofl :aok
HOST: HiTech Shot Down Skyyr Kill #1
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HOST: HiTech Shot Down Skyyr Kill #1
:rock
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His last sorties were flown under the squad name - Sickly Sucktards
In some apparent attempt to grief me 🤣
The irony is profound.
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Clearly he wasn't the only issue considering you guys still don't know how to keep a thread on track. Didn't Hitech start a thread where you guys can go high-five one another after allowing yourselves to get mercilessly trolled?
By my count see about 8-9 people showing some interest, that isn't nothing if you ask me.
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Clearly he wasn't the only issue considering you guys still don't know how to keep a thread on track. Didn't Hitech start a thread where you guys can go high-five one another after allowing yourselves to get mercilessly trolled?
By my count see about 8-9 people showing some interest, that isn't nothing if you ask me.
Who was trolled?
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Who was trolled?
Idk, maybe some folks in all those locked threads. You down for a Dueling tournament?
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Idk, maybe some folks in all those locked threads. You down for a Dueling tournament?
No
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So no Skyyr Tournament? :rofl :aok
:devil you a baaaaaad boy. :rofl
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:rofl
HOST: HiTech Shot Down Skyyr Kill #1
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:devil you a baaaaaad boy. :rofl
OINK! LOL (https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdmVoa3Q0d2x5N3BlZDQ1cjY2bDBiYm1meDU0cnlhc3dnYnEwZ2V0bSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/HuxE3wxEG0HNXldxBS/giphy.gif)
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Idk, maybe some folks in all those locked threads. You down for a Dueling tournament?
I think a bunch of us would be up for it if it’s all in good fun. I’m not nearly as good as I once was but would be willing to throw my name in the hat if it seems legit. However, I think a pin should be put in it for a while to let things settle down. Perhaps revisit a few months down the line?
I was asked many times over the years to participate in KOTH but heard many stories about how the format could be gamed so I never jumped in.
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I am totally DTF. count me in for fun and games.
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I think a bunch of us would be up for it if it’s all in good fun. I’m not nearly as good as I once was but would be willing to throw my name in the hat if it seems legit. However, I think a pin should be put in it for a while to let things settle down. Perhaps revisit a few months down the line?
I was asked many times over the years to participate in KOTH but heard many stories about how the format could be gamed so I never jumped in.
I don't see what needs to settle down that would interfere with a dogfight ladder. Let's do this!
We missed out on having you at KOTH, Mak. I wish you had talked to people who enjoyed it. You would have rocked at it. It was great fun. Frustrating sometimes, but always fun.
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I don't see what needs to settle down that would interfere with a dogfight ladder. Let's do this!
We missed out on having you at KOTH, Mak. I wish you had talked to people who enjoyed it. You would have rocked at it. It was great fun. Frustrating sometimes, but always fun.
The main reason for giving it a bit of time is because of some of the allegations that have been flying around about account switching and such. I think a cool down period to let some of that settle (given YKW started this thread) and perhaps some way to attempt to keep things on the up-and-up so it doesn’t get tainted with controversy.
I don’t know how well I would’ve done in KOTH, I’ve always considered myself a slightly above average dog fighter and a specialist (Jugs) and while, I understand the strengths and weaknesses of most of the aircraft in game, I’d probably need to get a lot more practice to be any sort of contender. Still, I’m willing to get wrecked in the name of good fun and this seems infinitely more fun since the OP is “gone”.
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Maybe in the winter months will have more people playing. That being said we got like 10 or 11 people interested atm.
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Count me in :airplane:
Eagler
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I have been crashing into trees ..... usually one on one.
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I can't be bothered to exercise my l33t front quarter-ness in pursuit of an empty ego cup, but y'all have fun, errr, get kills! :noid :bolt: