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Title: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 02, 2025, 09:49:47 AM
For those interested
Both vids are little wordy, but both dig down to the implosion of rock and todays music.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 02, 2025, 09:50:46 AM
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 02, 2025, 11:57:51 AM
Pretty much on the money, pun intended. I didn't realize exactly how it happened in radio, but MS radio is absolutely garbage now. I have thought for a very long time to try to open a local radio station to promote local artist but I'm sure I'd have to claw through hell... not only have I witnessed the decline of alternative rock, they have also manipulated it into what I call "Festival Rock" which is sorta girly if you ask me. Bands like 21 pilots, Imagine Dragons, ect. (Which I'm not saying are bad but...) you really have to go out of your way to find real powerful rock music today.
Rock music is not dead. It's the MSM and radio industry that's trying to kill it or manipulate it into pop rock away from heaviness and power.
When they got rid of 96 Rock and 99X in Atlanta, thats when I realized what was going on.
I'm so sick of the MS Music industry I could go on and on.
No local radio, No local artists getting any attention really at all. Anything harder than Godsmack ain't gonna make the radio They don't even have stations for good trance, electronica, or Future Garage. It's ridiculous. Same 2 songs from the same 10 bands over and over again.. so many good songs that never got played.
There are many bands I'm just now finding out about from the early 2000s that I cannot believe I've never heard of before. I search youtube and just click random bands just to see how they sound and go through their records on Spotify to find the best songs.
Pandora was the best thing to happen in the mid 2005s where it introduced me to so many different types of music and metal bands. It was a life saver. I use to listen to some awesome heavy metal music late into the night playing AH. A favorite past time of mine.
I feel like so many people never understand the true power of music because all they hear their entire life is the same MS songs over and over again from the radio. It's sad really. Music can heal you, it's literally a vibrational drug, and so many don't know or understand the power of it, which is why the MSM producers push garbage nasty rap/pop that influences poor behavior. The old conspiracy was paying rappers to push garbage to get more in private prisons. What a complete shame. Most don't understand the power of music because they are trapped by MSM garbage and don't venture out to find other artists.
So many bands didn't get the notoriety they deserved because of the stupid main stream radio stations manipulating to only play 1 or 2 songs from the main "approved" rock bands, and many of those were sellouts who changed their sound for the Main Stream producers. We've seen time and time again bands with great albums early on turn to girly crap in the years later. To harp on the Taylor Swift crazy, they realized a while back that 13 year old girls run the music industry, so that's what they push, disregard everyone else and their music interest.
Here is my Power Rock Playlist. How many of these bands from the early 2,000s have you heard? I just found some of these songs last year... its a shame because they are really good.
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Post by: Eagler on January 02, 2025, 12:42:02 PM
Watched the rock and roll hall of fame show last night..
Didn't understand putting hip hop "artists" into it..seemed some were understandably upset with this nomination taking decades while others with much less success getting in before them..
Made a joke out of entire thing imo
Eagler
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 02, 2025, 01:02:04 PM
Pretty much on the money, pun intended. I didn't realize exactly how it happened in radio, but MS radio is absolutely garbage now. I have thought for a very long time to try to open a local radio station to promote local artist but I'm sure I'd have to claw through hell... not only have I witnessed the decline of alternative rock, they have also manipulated it into what I call "Festival Rock" which is sorta girly if you ask me. Bands like 21 pilots, Imagine Dragons, ect. (Which I'm not saying are bad but...) you really have to go out of your way to find real powerful rock music today.
Rock music is not dead. It's the MSM and radio industry that's trying to kill it or manipulate it into pop rock away from heaviness and power.
When they got rid of 96 Rock and 99X in Atlanta, thats when I realized what was going on.
I'm so sick of the MS Music industry I could go on and on.
No local radio, No local artists getting any attention really at all. Anything harder than Godsmack ain't gonna make the radio They don't even have stations for good trance, electronica, or Future Garage. It's ridiculous. Same 2 songs from the same 10 bands over and over again.. so many good songs that never got played.
There are many bands I'm just now finding out about from the early 2000s that I cannot believe I've never heard of before. I search youtube and just click random bands just to see how they sound and go through their records on Spotify to find the best songs.
Pandora was the best thing to happen in the mid 2005s where it introduced me to so many different types of music and metal bands. It was a life saver. I use to listen to some awesome heavy metal music late into the night playing AH. A favorite past time of mine.
I feel like so many people never understand the true power of music because all they hear their entire life is the same MS songs over and over again from the radio. It's sad really. Music can heal you, it's literally a vibrational drug, and so many don't know or understand the power of it, which is why the MSM producers push garbage nasty rap/pop that influences poor behavior. The old conspiracy was paying rappers to push garbage to get more in private prisons. What a complete shame. Most don't understand the power of music because they are trapped by MSM garbage and don't venture out to find other artists.
So many bands didn't get the notoriety they deserved because of the stupid main stream radio stations manipulating to only play 1 or 2 songs from the main "approved" rock bands, and many of those were sellouts who changed their sound for the Main Stream producers. We've seen time and time again bands with great albums early on turn to girly crap in the years later. To harp on the Taylor Swift crazy, they realized a while back that 13 year old girls run the music industry, so that's what they push, disregard everyone else and their music interest.
Here is my Power Rock Playlist. How many of these bands from the early 2,000s have you heard? I just found some of these songs last year... its a shame because they are really good.
Local Arist; From the mid 60s-mid-late80s, local "agents/promoters" would attend bar band shows. And in the 70s-80s we gave them a LOT to see in a bar. Competition for that reason was full throttle. In the early 80s when I was getting my chops together, I ran with some metal or classic rock bands. They were everywhere. On Chicago West suburbs (of the rich) there musta been 50 rock clubs within a 50 mile radius, which all ran bands 5-7 days a week. Out of those bar shows came REO Speedwagon, Cheap Trick, The Hounds, Chicago (I have a personal story about that band) Yanni, etc. We would literally, take in concert scale gear, lights and pyro into these large bars, that held 50-3000. We were bright and very loud, every band competed for having the biggest production. And Agents would come to see it all, and once in a while they'd pick a local band to open for a national act they were promoting. But for most local bands, after that adrenaline rush and then nothing else coming of it, it deflated them, and a lot of bands dispersed.
we have a cpl radio stations out here that tried what you suggest, it kinda always balanced on a razor blade, the some of the audience was like Meh!. They wanted to hear what they bought. It was mostly music connoisseurs who tuned in. One DJ friend of mine tried your idea on radio and newspapers for 40 yrs, same results. Back int he 80s there were mags out everyone read, because everyone bought them to see their friends bands in print. They are still around but down from 40 pages to 3-4.
Now days you just don't have that agent lurking feel, nor the gear. Most of it is now stick speaker systems and a few LED lights. So even more slips through the cracks.
My best example. 2007. I had done a LOT of bands of all genres. A sound company that had hired me as an employee, the owner comes to me and says "We have a present for you, a gift show". <blank stare> I'm like what does that mean, sometimes "gifts" turn out to be a nightmare joke, sarcasm. They would not tell me who it was, but now I'm on edge. I like to know what I'm walking into, who I'm dealing with and use their reputation as what I might be in for, good or bad. Finally they ask, "do you know who Joe Bonamassa is? I said no, they said well then it's a gift, he was a child prodigy, that's all we're saying. <scratches head> Could not find a damn thing about this guy.
Setting up the stage, I'm mixing monitors so I'm designing that setup to his stage plot. Kinda busy. Some dweeb comes up to me and ask "when are you going to get to my gear?". I wasn't very charming that day and said, Look, I'm just doing what your FOH told the should be done. Basically, go away and stay away. lol. Never pester a monitor engineer. They are usually stressed out from the weight on their shoulders. (grumpy). :)
OK, so we do sound check without the main artist, all is cool. Loud AF on stage. Start the show, go into first song without the artist. Then they are announced and he walks out.....and here comes that little squirrel I shrugged off during setup. Whoops!. Kinda figure this is gonna be a suck show, I was pranked. Kinda rock-blues, meh!!
Then he started playing <jaw drop>, by the 3rd song my jaw just stayed dropped through the whole show. His guitar playing and band was just stunning. And everyone who sees him say the same. I mean he never ever hits a bad note. Kinda mind blowing talent. I wish he'd play more upbeat stuff. <shrug>
My point. I've done 450 high profile artist in 4000 concerts over 45 yrs. >I< never even heard of the guy, and I was sent to work with him, and he was already touring for 5 yrs. In th eold days I'd know everything I need to know about them, because everyone knew who they were.
Now days, the music we hear on YT are local artist using PCs as mentioned above. They're not getting into an ambient studio, with mics and acustics and most of all, a real sound engineer with decades of tricks up his sleeve. Kinda recycles back to the above.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 02, 2025, 01:06:14 PM
Watched the rock and roll hall of fame show last night..
Didn't understand putting hip hop "artists" into it..seemed some were understandably upset with this nomination taking decades while others with much less success getting in before them..
Made a joke out of entire thing imo
Eagler
I absolutely REFUSED to go out with any hip-hop or rap. I did a couple, never ever again. Just nonsense. Understandably upset? Meh!. many artist just got in after 50 yrs and some of the band doesn't even exist anymore. I can't stand whiners, nor clowns on stage. <runs>
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: icepac on January 02, 2025, 02:57:29 PM
America's got some stuff going on but it's certainly not what the studios want to support.
For the most part, rock went to japan and was assimilated into many different genres of music.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Meatwad on January 02, 2025, 03:04:30 PM
Pretty much on the money, pun intended. I didn't realize exactly how it happened in radio, but MS radio is absolutely garbage now. I have thought for a very long time to try to open a local radio station to promote local artist but I'm sure I'd have to claw through hell... not only have I witnessed the decline of alternative rock, they have also manipulated it into what I call "Festival Rock" which is sorta girly if you ask me. Bands like 21 pilots, Imagine Dragons, ect. (Which I'm not saying are bad but...) you really have to go out of your way to find real powerful rock music today.
Rock music is not dead. It's the MSM and radio industry that's trying to kill it or manipulate it into pop rock away from heaviness and power.
When they got rid of 96 Rock and 99X in Atlanta, thats when I realized what was going on.
I'm so sick of the MS Music industry I could go on and on.
No local radio, No local artists getting any attention really at all. Anything harder than Godsmack ain't gonna make the radio They don't even have stations for good trance, electronica, or Future Garage. It's ridiculous. Same 2 songs from the same 10 bands over and over again.. so many good songs that never got played.
There are many bands I'm just now finding out about from the early 2000s that I cannot believe I've never heard of before. I search youtube and just click random bands just to see how they sound and go through their records on Spotify to find the best songs.
Pandora was the best thing to happen in the mid 2005s where it introduced me to so many different types of music and metal bands. It was a life saver. I use to listen to some awesome heavy metal music late into the night playing AH. A favorite past time of mine.
I feel like so many people never understand the true power of music because all they hear their entire life is the same MS songs over and over again from the radio. It's sad really. Music can heal you, it's literally a vibrational drug, and so many don't know or understand the power of it, which is why the MSM producers push garbage nasty rap/pop that influences poor behavior. The old conspiracy was paying rappers to push garbage to get more in private prisons. What a complete shame. Most don't understand the power of music because they are trapped by MSM garbage and don't venture out to find other artists.
So many bands didn't get the notoriety they deserved because of the stupid main stream radio stations manipulating to only play 1 or 2 songs from the main "approved" rock bands, and many of those were sellouts who changed their sound for the Main Stream producers. We've seen time and time again bands with great albums early on turn to girly crap in the years later. To harp on the Taylor Swift crazy, they realized a while back that 13 year old girls run the music industry, so that's what they push, disregard everyone else and their music interest.
Here is my Power Rock Playlist. How many of these bands from the early 2,000s have you heard? I just found some of these songs last year... its a shame because they are really good.
America's got some stuff going on but it's certainly not what the studios want to support.
For the most part, rock went to japan and was assimilated into many different genres of music.
In a lot of cases. But Europe probably has the biggest and widest music industry. They love everything. Bands that can't make it in the uppity USA market kill it over there.
Sliding backwards, I was almost burned out on Led Zepplin, Aerosmith, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath before they even hit the radio. The bestest stuff was NOT on the radio in early 70s. They were selling out concerts before getting one song on the radio played until we puked. Led Zepplin sold out many concerts on word of mouth alone, beating ticket commercials. But radio came later. it was all about the vinyl and its cover back then.
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Post by: icepac on January 02, 2025, 04:03:19 PM
Check out wfmu.org, they are a community radio station that plays local and obscure things
That reminds me of WHFS from the DC area.
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Post by: Animl-AW on January 02, 2025, 06:36:31 PM
WXRT in Chicago did the same for early 70s until present.
WLUP (The Loop) in Chicago did a "Hometown Album" a couple times in the late 70s. They came up with a list and had listeners vote. In the end something like 5-7 local artist bands were chosen to be on it, each getting one original song to record. Several friends had a band and they got on it. But,.. to be honest, it didn't really sell as much as they thought.
So many attempts to get hidden new artist to break through but it was rare.
Not sure about today, but the past years the odds of breaking through big are 1 in 3 million.
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Post by: Drano on January 03, 2025, 08:17:01 AM
Sirius/XM Deep Tracks. All of the bands I like. Some bands I never heard of I didn't know I'd like. Great DJs. Exactly zero(well... almost) of the same 75 songs played on a constant loop on OTA radio and best of all... No commercials! I gladly pay for that.
As if that wasn't bad enough, where I am about 40 miles out of Philly I noticed some years ago my reception of the local rock stations dropped like a stone. One changed formats to sports which I liked a lot. Could hardly get them most of the time. I asked the UD radio station manager if I was imagining it. Said, nope! It's digital radio. That 50k watt signal is now broken up into OTA, HD1, HD2, etc. The carrier channel that sends all the track info to your modern radios. Ah that high powered signal I used to get ain't all that anymore. Also not a problem with Sirius.
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Post by: Animl-AW on January 03, 2025, 09:19:00 AM
Sirius/XM Deep Tracks. All of the bands I like. Some bands I never heard of I didn't know I'd like. Great DJs. Exactly zero(well... almost) of the same 75 songs played on a constant loop on OTA radio and best of all... No commercials! I gladly pay for that.
As if that wasn't bad enough, where I am about 40 miles out of Philly I noticed some years ago my reception of the local rock stations dropped like a stone. One changed formats to sports which I liked a lot. Could hardly get them most of the time. I asked the UD radio station manager if I was imagining it. Said, nope! It's digital radio. That 50k watt signal is now broken up into OTA, HD1, HD2, etc. The carrier channel that sends all the track info to your modern radios. Ah that high powered signal I used to get ain't all that anymore. Also not a problem with Sirius.
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Yep I do the same. Sirius keeps it alive.
That said,… i was a drummer for 12 yrs, did the whole twirling sticks thing, a showman. but a lot of us realized we don’t have to fight getting out and still make a living off working for bands that did break through. 90% of all crew members are musicians. We can all play something fluently. Where ya get gtr and drum techs and lighting and sound engineers.
Joe Walsh did a tour in 75 I saw called Joe Walsh & Barnstorm. Turn d out Barnstorm was his crew that created a band and opened for his show. Alabama crew was the same, had a band called Bama, Band and they were killer.
And this is where a lot of musicians who didn’t break through go. So instead of struggling in one band we work for all of the big boys.
Side note: Cheap Trick and Styx are local boys who in the 80s hung out in a 3200 seat rock club I used to work as Sound Engineer and bouncer. We all know each other. I ended up working for both. Last time I saw Robin Zandler singer of CT in late 90s-2000 he was living in a trailer park in N. IL. After a divorce. Gtr player for CT got most the money.
Last time I worked for and had dinner with Styx we talked about going home and mowing the grass after 3 wks, or fixing gutters on the house. I think they finally pulled the plug this year.
Aerosmith and Styx used to play a country club in town here before they made it big. I saw them long before famous. Styx broke through with “ Lady”. With Aerosmith it was “Dream On”. I refused to work with Steven Tylor, jerk.
I got to ride the tsunami, unfortunately, I also watched it go back to the sea of nonsense. We’re all retiring now. :(
which brings me full circle to the subject. Depressing.
Jerry the flute player from Marshall Tucker band, who I worked with a LOT, and I played AW, lost track of him when AH came. He passed away a few years ago. I think we chose flight sims to keep the eye candy and adrenaline flowing.
I’m conditioned to build stuff for the band/game, I’m crew :) I’m not obsessed, its my nature.
Sasha (AW) made gtrs for artist like Slash.
We love this sht.
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Post by: Animl-AW on January 03, 2025, 01:24:03 PM
That said,… i was a drummer for 12 yrs, did the whole twirling sticks thing, a showman. but a lot of us realized we don’t have to fight getting out and still make a living off working for bands that did break through. 90% of all crew members are musicians. We can all play something fluently. Where ya get gtr and drum techs and lighting and sound engineers.
Joe Walsh did a tour in 75 I saw called Joe Walsh & Barnstorm. Turn d out Barnstorm was his crew that created a band and opened for his show. Alabama crew was the same, had a band called Bama, Band and they were killer.
And this is where a lot of musicians who didn’t break through go. So instead of struggling in one band we work for all of the big boys.
Side note: Cheap Trick and Styx are local boys who in the 80s hung out in a 3200 seat rock club I used to work as Sound Engineer and bouncer. We all know each other. I ended up working for both. Last time I saw Robin Zandler singer of CT in late 90s-2000 he was living in a trailer park in N. IL. After a divorce. Gtr player for CT got most the money.
Last time I worked for and had dinner with Styx we talked about going home and mowing the grass after 3 wks, or fixing gutters on the house. I think they finally pulled the plug this year.
Aerosmith and Styx used to play a country club in town here before they made it big. I saw them long before famous. Styx broke through with “ Lady”. With Aerosmith it was “Dream On”. I refused to work with Steven Tylor, jerk.
I got to ride the tsunami, unfortunately, I also watched it go back to the sea of nonsense. We’re all retiring now. :(
which brings me full circle to the subject. Depressing.
Jerry the flute player from Marshall Tucker band, who I worked with a LOT, and I played AW, lost track of him when AH came. He passed away a few years ago. I think we chose flight sims to keep the eye candy and adrenaline flowing.
I’m conditioned to build stuff for the band/game, I’m crew :) I’m not obsessed, its my nature.
Pasha (AW) made gtrs for artist like Slash.
We love this sht.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Eagler on January 03, 2025, 05:19:22 PM
My favorite "rock" band..we have seen them in concert more than any other band
Eagler
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Post by: Brooke on January 03, 2025, 11:42:47 PM
I like Rick Beato's vids. I don't know squat about music. Still I like hearing him talk about things from a music expert's point of view.
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Post by: Brooke on January 04, 2025, 12:31:33 AM
You music aficiandos out there -- can each of you post Youtube links to 5 songs you like that aren't super well-known hits?
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Post by: Leisure on January 04, 2025, 12:58:16 AM
Always loved that AWB song in particular...........
My contribution is fairly recent. I find her voice exquisite and love the strings.
https://youtu.be/gbsEgoyK108?si=PCM7Yq-BylHoV3N1
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 04, 2025, 09:10:03 AM
Music is extremely personal preference. Ya don’t have to know anything about music. Its either pleasing to your ear or its not. If it expresses how you feel in life or what you’ve experienced in life you’re likely to grasp onto it.
Music is like a scent. As soon as you smell/ hear it you’re memory of a moment is triggered. Some of the music I hated back in the day I now like because it takes me back in time.
My older brother and I had a mutual friend who worked in a popular record store. Everything about that came out he introduced to my brother who then brought it home anf played it 200 times.
But, despite that I had what I now see as a very narrow music of hard rock and southern rock its the job I chose that forced me to branch out.
I don’t/didn’t pick who I went out with, unless they requested me. I’d get a call saying s band needs a monitor engineer and be assigned/offered the job. If you’re trying to make a living you’ll take whatever to pay the bills.i was exposed to everything from symphonies to Mel Torme to Rammstein. Things I normally would not choose to listen to. But, more often than not I walked away appreciating their stuff and show. It forced me out of my bubble and my library grew because of that exposure.
I can listen to Black Sabbath and Joe Satriani in the same day. If its done well I’ll listen. But, I’m not easily impressed. High quality steers me.
When I was on the road a lot, traveling to other places the songs played on the radio there was often different from the songs played here. So now we’re getting into culture. It also made me appreciate a wide range of people. After a while ya can’t help becoming more worldly. Ya learn a lot about people in music. I remember spending time in the Dakotas and coming back listening to Native American stuff, or a native group from African jungles, same thing.
No matter how music is played, no matter the culture, they all sing about the same things. Love, broken heart, happy, hope and grief. This helps understand most people. They are only different in culture. Sometimes with language barriers , you may not understand the words but you click right into what they are feeling.
Coming full circle, how music is dispersed these days has limitations and its a shame.some rich fat bastard decides. I refer back to the videos.
Post your music
What someone plays tells a lot of where a person has been or is in life, their personality.
Scenarios/events are very much like a concert production, including advertising it. Ya set it up to blow minds. Same process, same results.
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Post by: Animl-AW on January 04, 2025, 09:35:49 AM
A drug deal gone bad
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Post by: GasTeddy on January 04, 2025, 10:23:00 AM
Music is extremely personal preference. Ya don’t have to know anything about music. Its either pleasing to your ear or its not. If it expresses how you feel in life or what you’ve experienced in life you’re likely to grasp onto it.
Exactly. Some music from times, when singers need to have real voice.
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Post by: Animl-AW on January 04, 2025, 11:16:15 AM
Long story short in 06 Magic Dick (richard) and I met and went into the olf JG days and how great it would be if they stuffed the arenas again. 4 mos later the did a reuion tour, or 4.
Funnest band I ever saw 76 and 77. Best crowd control ever. They just never paused.
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Post by: -gg- on January 04, 2025, 12:23:47 PM
our first album was released yesterday. 14 songs.
We've all known each other and have been friends since the late 80s, having met through the Phoenix music scene.
Congrats! Ya got some hooks there. Best of wishes. :)
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Post by: -gg- on January 04, 2025, 01:25:41 PM
thank you, Animl
we've started on new songs a few days ago. There's lots of room to improve.
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Post by: Animl-AW on January 04, 2025, 05:12:05 PM
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Post by: FLOOB on January 04, 2025, 11:44:37 PM
Maybe it’s just me but it seems like fashion and music have stagnated since 2000. When I was growing up whole new genres of music were invented like twice per decade.
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Post by: Animl-AW on January 05, 2025, 11:44:50 AM
we've started on new songs a few days ago. There's lots of room to improve.
took more time with it...
I hear a level of Pop, which is a good thing. Just enough.
#1 I'm Fine has the scent of Shania Twain, It has a natural influential hook. I hear quite a few influences through out the whole thing. Ocean is popping really nice.
Out
I picked up on the fillers. Very nicely done. That mixdown is nice and tight. Good layering of Bkg vox with lead, I think I hear some dbling in there to. Nice panning. You worked on vox FX didn't ya?
Over-all an excellent job.
I hope you get through that tough market in TN.
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Post by: Brooke on January 05, 2025, 03:01:06 PM
I hear a level of Pop, which is a good thing. Just enough.
#1 I'm Fine has the scent of Shania Twain, It has a natural influential hook. I hear quite a few influences through out the whole thing. Ocean is popping really nice.
Out
I picked up on the fillers. Very nicely done. That mixdown is nice and tight. Good layering of Bkg vox with lead, I think I hear some dbling in there to. Nice panning. You worked on vox FX didn't ya?
Over-all an excellent job.
I hope you get through that tough market in TN.
Thanks again.
It's hard for me to hear these objectively, and since we've been working with them and mixing and all of that you kind of get sick of them. I think we can improve a lot - and I think we will on the next batch.
I mixed about half of these and our drummer, Travis, mixed the others. We doubled vocals in some places and not others. Yeah, we did our best on the vocal processing. Since these songs, we've gotton some new gear. Really high-end gear in some cases. Like - I got a top of the line vocal mic with a really good preamp for it. Our guitar player, Todd, also has a mastering studio. Even though he already has the best of the best gear, he went over the last 2% that you can possibly go on some new mastering hardware. He uses all mostly all outboard gear that's basically as good as you can buy.
Like I said, there's a lot that I think we can work on to improve. We think we have better songs for the next batch . I think we will improve the recording and mixing aspects. Personally, I'm going to present songs with a little more grit to them.
Thanks for listening and for the feedback!
Brooke! That would be fantastic! We were supposed to visit Travis in Franklin toward the end of last year, but then he had to go on tour with Sugarland PLUS he's a session player and just got booked out. Hopefully soon!
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Brooke on January 06, 2025, 03:46:34 AM
Brooke! That would be fantastic! We were supposed to visit Travis in Franklin toward the end of last year, but then he had to go on tour with Sugarland PLUS he's a session player and just got booked out. Hopefully soon!
Sweet! I live in Franklin, so that is even closer. :) Nashville is only about 15 min away, though. So when folks visit, I'm totally up for that, too.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 06, 2025, 10:13:05 AM
It's hard for me to hear these objectively, and since we've been working with them and mixing and all of that you kind of get sick of them. I think we can improve a lot - and I think we will on the next batch.
I mixed about half of these and our drummer, Travis, mixed the others. We doubled vocals in some places and not others. Yeah, we did our best on the vocal processing. Since these songs, we've gotton some new gear. Really high-end gear in some cases. Like - I got a top of the line vocal mic with a really good preamp for it. Our guitar player, Todd, also has a mastering studio. Even though he already has the best of the best gear, he went over the last 2% that you can possibly go on some new mastering hardware. He uses all mostly all outboard gear that's basically as good as you can buy.
Like I said, there's a lot that I think we can work on to improve. We think we have better songs for the next batch . I think we will improve the recording and mixing aspects. Personally, I'm going to present songs with a little more grit to them.
Thanks for listening and for the feedback!
Brooke! That would be fantastic! We were supposed to visit Travis in Franklin toward the end of last year, but then he had to go on tour with Sugarland PLUS he's a session player and just got booked out. Hopefully soon!
Bha! You know by now you’ll always think you can grow. Eric Clapton and David Gilmour are still trying to grow.
I’m a live engineer, we just try to mimic the mix the studio invents.
Preamps matter. In the late 80s -early 90s a major sound company (DB Sound) I know switched out the preamps of a Yamaha 4k console with Gamble preamps. No one else could figure out why their Yam 4ks sound so much better than theirs. Ha!
When I did Martina Mcbride, I think it was her husband who mixed live for Garth Brooks brought in a Gamble console for FOH. One of the only live consoles sounds I like more than a Midas Heritage 3k. I like the bells and whistles of digital, I like how analog sounds more. Difference between Vinyl and CD, vinyl is warmer.
I think it turned out better than you think. But not liking it makes you push harder, IMO, thats healthy and normal. But seriously, it has some good hooks in it. Push it hard.
I’ll post it on my FB page. Might help it get out into Chicago area. I have a few local radio DJs not owned by Clear Channel, that might bite.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: icepac on January 06, 2025, 12:28:16 PM
It's just harder to find. I like collaborations.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: -gg- on January 07, 2025, 12:36:32 PM
Bha! You know by now you’ll always think you can grow. Eric Clapton and David Gilmour are still trying to grow.
I’m a live engineer, we just try to mimic the mix the studio invents.
Preamps matter. In the late 80s -early 90s a major sound company (DB Sound) I know switched out the preamps of a Yamaha 4k console with Gamble preamps. No one else could figure out why their Yam 4ks sound so much better than theirs. Ha!
When I did Martina Mcbride, I think it was her husband who mixed live for Garth Brooks brought in a Gamble console for FOH. One of the only live consoles sounds I like more than a Midas Heritage 3k. I like the bells and whistles of digital, I like how analog sounds more. Difference between Vinyl and CD, vinyl is warmer.
I think it turned out better than you think. But not liking it makes you push harder, IMO, thats healthy and normal. But seriously, it has some good hooks in it. Push it hard.
I’ll post it on my FB page. Might help it get out into Chicago area. I have a few local radio DJs not owned by Clear Channel, that might bite.
thanks so much, Animl!
gina
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 08, 2025, 07:32:15 AM
A DJ from a local radio station acknowledged he listened to it and complimented it.
Baby steps.
Their signal reaches into Chicago from IN.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: -gg- on January 08, 2025, 05:59:27 PM
That's fantastic! What city or town would this be? We had a DJ follow us recently on Instagram
Thank you!
Don’t take it as a huge thing, I got a favor to listen. I’m a known engineer, has lil diff weight than a listener.
The one DJ works at a local station with various shows. That said its near 2 colleges and reaches half of Chicago. If anything is played it COULD be a foot in the door in this area. This one is in Valporaso, IN. They looked, lets see if they bite.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: -gg- on January 10, 2025, 08:39:52 AM
Don’t take it as a huge thing, I got a favor to listen. I’m a known engineer, has lil diff weight than a listener.
The one DJ works at a local station with various shows. That said its near 2 colleges and reaches half of Chicago. If anything is played it COULD be a foot in the door in this area. This one is in Valporaso, IN. They looked, lets see if they bite.
Appreciate you doing that!
I think I know who it is. He followed us a couple days ago. Chicago has been our top city in at least that past 28 days for Spotify play. The album has close to 27,000 plays so far in total on Spotify. That includes the singles that we've been releasing though. The stats carry over to the album.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 10, 2025, 09:29:37 AM
I think I know who it is. He followed us a couple days ago. Chicago has been our top city in at least that past 28 days for Spotify play. The album has close to 27,000 plays so far in total on Spotify. That includes the singles that we've been releasing though. The stats carry over to the album.
I didn’t analyze every song, but 2-3 caught my attention with hooks that should be heard. To say that about one song of 30 is s good start.
Yes, some of your songs fit the area programming.
I can hear chicks playing #1 in a country or suburban bar.
Just remember, be careful of false positives.
Its very smart to start album #2 right now. You’ll need it in 9 mos. Take your time apply what was learned. Shows you’re in it for the long haul (future biz).
These guys get stuff pushed on them by local bands every day. They tend to shy away from beggers, lets play it as the quiet get the most attention. Don’t push, amateurs do that. I never asked these guys for anything, so when I do I must be on to something. I’m helping both you and them, IF I’m any help at all.
>IF< (massive word), you need to play the area, you have some clout and access to the best gear and engineers in the area, same as you prolly have there.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: -gg- on January 10, 2025, 10:32:29 AM
Thanks, Animl!
yeah, we don't push on stuff like this. At all. Other than the social media promos we do, we don't bug people or ask for anything.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: -gg- on January 11, 2025, 12:52:01 PM
For those interested, we have a music section on my forum. Not many members post in that section, but I think it has some nice threads that a few of you guys would like. Examples; great liver performances, gear, songs that aint bad, songs with great hooks, etc.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 13, 2025, 11:05:26 AM
Kinda slippin off subject I think Joe is a stunning player, I don't care for all the tear tugging tunes but his playing is great. He's not mainstream, but damn! Working and listening to him on stage was a treat. A decent video on his way of amps/ monitors.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: -gg- on January 13, 2025, 01:44:48 PM
Kinda slippin off subject I think Joe is a stunning player, I don't care for all the tear tugging tunes but his playing is great. He's not mainstream, but damn! Working and listening to him on stage was a treat. A decent video on his way of amps/ monitors.
I'm not really a fan of his music, but I really like the guy as a guitar and collector/enthusiast. I think he's a pretty cool guy and I love his knowledge and love of the gear.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 13, 2025, 02:19:21 PM
I'm not really a fan of his music, but I really like the guy as a guitar and collector/enthusiast. I think he's a pretty cool guy and I love his knowledge and love of the gear.
He’s literally a gtr player prodigy since 11 yrs old. Besides golf<story about that one day> its pretty much s one track train.
And ya, I really like about 3 songs, just a fan of his playing. Kind of a nerdy guy but s good guy.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 14, 2025, 07:57:22 AM
I think the reason I like his playing is because he plays riffs we heard in older rock. Getting less likely to hear that skill in modern music.
Kinda why I backed off mixing monitors for concerts, unless its old skewl band. The skill level has dipped.
Today, unless its old vets its s hired gun or session guys going out with an artist for a tour. Quite a few popular bands got hired guns to make them break through.
Judas Priest is one example. Had they not hired an outside gtr player they would have never got out of the rock bars. Billy Idol same thing.
An interesting video to watch on this subject is literally called “Hired Guns”.
The man gtr player in that video was hired as Joe’s gtr tech. But thr guy can play everything on a gtr. Killer player.
The day we have full bands where all are very talented has been fading.
Point being liking Joe is holding on to that old skewl type talent. Kinda like grasping AH.
Kinda why I liked working with Carol King. Most hit songs in the 70s were written by her, snd then studio was sometimes done by “The Wrecking Crew” musicians. To me one of the few who towered over the bands/players. These skills are being lost.
Joe just files a void.
Some of that old skewl pop influence creeps out of some of your tunes. That makes a mental connection association.
I’m an engineer, not a producer, so its more just educated opinion. I usually get ya after you go all through that and ready to thump a stage. :)
I like new artist who never heard what I do and watch the look on their faces. Priceless. Most new arist haven’t heard 30k-50k watts in monitors. :)
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 14, 2025, 08:12:20 AM
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: icepac on January 14, 2025, 10:22:40 AM
Joes singing in this one is what brought me to him.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: AKIron on January 14, 2025, 06:03:17 PM
Joe is great.
Phil is good too.
https://x.com/i/status/1879308299243569273
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 14, 2025, 06:25:32 PM
Joes singing in this one is what brought me to him.
I look at people like Joe as he sings, but I'm not calling him a "singer". All in perspective. I can say the same thing about SRV or BB King. But if you pick the right lyrics for the right voice it works.
Now I'm not crazy about blues, but a lot of passion roles through it. In this video, it's not all about his playing through a whole song, with vocals to make a song. In this case, without being center of attention, he puts more into a smaller part or a song, which makes it jump out more. I think his vocals may be holding him back. In Dislocated Boy he sounded better with a backup singer. Wait for it.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: AKIron on January 14, 2025, 06:43:51 PM
I think SRV and Joe Bonamassa were comparable in their singing talent. I like Joe more but their guitar skills make up for any shortfalls.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 14, 2025, 06:46:22 PM
Other than 2-3 post at redit and ED I only use FB and bbs for any form of social media. I havr no interest nor reason to go anywhere else. FB i do basically for HS friends and a GF made me start it. Don’t know, don’t care what the world is flipping out on this 5 min. Nor what someone ate today, and how great and intelligent they are,
Life is quieter.
I’m good
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: AKIron on January 14, 2025, 09:54:06 PM
It's a video on X (Twitter). There's nothing nefarious or political about it. If you aren't afraid of Facebook you shouldn't be afraid of X.
Not like it's Chick-fil-a.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: RUSH1 on January 14, 2025, 10:10:42 PM
Other than 2-3 post at redit and ED I only use FB and bbs for any form of social media. I havr no interest nor reason to go anywhere else. FB i do basically for HS friends and a GF made me start it. Don’t know, don’t care what the world is flipping out on this 5 min. Nor what someone ate today, and how great and intelligent they are,
Life is quieter.
I’m good
Did you have a problem with Twitter (X) five years ago?
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 15, 2025, 06:59:19 AM
<blank stare>
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 15, 2025, 03:24:59 PM
Rock ain't dead, just have to seek it out. Which is unfortunate but these days you normally have to dig or spend a lot to find the diamonds.
Theres a few recent albums that I think are really good and basically just came out within the last 2 years. Heres my favorite song from each. I think we still got it, but most only hear what the media puts in their face and they never wonder away and discover more.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 16, 2025, 09:17:30 AM
Thete’s some new good stuff. Sad part, with my exposure I’ve been spoiled over the decades. While my music has widened it takes more skill to impress me.
My dad, a big band fan, didn’t think much of rock.
I don’t even own a stereo. No matter whats available its not going to sound like the quality of s concert system. So I use Bose headphones. I’m sure my neighbors appreciate that. In my early days the whole neighborhood heard my home gear.
I’m burned out on loud, i could care less if I work or see another concert. I’m good with my brain not moving at 240mph per second.
Even picking out music for a vid, I go yhrough about 40 dongs before I decide on whats almost good enough.
I’m pretty much ruined lol
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Banshee7 on January 16, 2025, 01:14:40 PM
Someone say rock is dead?
I only post the cover because it was the video that caught my attention. These guys rock. :rock
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Leisure on January 16, 2025, 01:18:18 PM
If you wanna listen to a complete ripoff, listen to Greta Van Fleet. Super talented kids, but they are literally a copy and paste of Led Zeppelin.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: icepac on January 17, 2025, 09:09:02 AM
With a bit of Wolfmother thrown in.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: -gg- on January 17, 2025, 10:36:56 AM
I hope this is not too off the topic. But I am in a band and we are trying to make a dent in this modern music business. We don't expect anything - we truly do this for our enjoyment and our friendships that go back to the late '80s
Our first album has been out for about ten days. It's distributed all over the world on all the streaming services. and it will be on vinyl soon. In the old days - good luck getting your independent music distributed.
So there's no money in this by streaming. We get about .003 cents per stream and have about 25-30,000 streams. So it's no money unless you can stream millions. Spotify is the main player - and there's some real nepherias stuff that goes on with them. It might be worse that the "old days" with the payola thing.
So we do it though. We're proud that we created the music and the album.
We are thinking about producing 500 vinyl records. I'd put it online everywhere. Discogs, Ebay, Esty, tictok ( if it stays), instagram, and our own website. I'm pretty sure we could eventually sell enough to break even - which would be about 200 records.
There's a ton of new music these days. Way more than the old days. Way, Way more. But that also waters everything down and makes it even harder to stand out if you are an artist. But a consumer has it all. For the price a single CD per month back in the day, you can listen to and discover tens of thousands of releases.
Anyway. Kind of a ramble. lol
Have a good weekend!
Gina
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 17, 2025, 11:43:51 AM
I hope this is not too off the topic. But I am in a band and we are trying to make a dent in this modern music business. We don't expect anything - we truly do this for our enjoyment and our friendships, that go back to the late '80s
Our first album has been out for about ten days. It's distributed all over the world on all the streaming services. and it will be on vinyl soon. In the old days - good luck getting your independent music distributed.
So there's no money in this by streaming. We get about .003 cents per stream and have about 25-30,000 styreams. So it's no money unless you can stream millions. Spotify is the main player - and there's some real nepherias stuff that goes on with them. It might be worse that the "old days" with the payola thing.
So we do it though. We're proud that we created the music and the album.
We are thinking about producing 500 vinyl records. I'd put it online everywhere. Discogs, Ebay, Esty, tictok ( if it stays), instagram, and our own website. I'm pretty sure we could eventually sell enough to break even - which would be about 200 records.
There's a ton of new music these days. Way more than the old days. Way, Way more. But that also waters everything down and makes it even harder to stand out if you are an artist. But a consumer has it all. For the price a single CD per month back in the day, you can listen to and discover tens of thousands of releases.
Anyway. Kind of a ramble. lol
Have a good weekend!
Gina
Well, I think you’re right. Theres too much out there for anyone to break out to the front and no filter to weed em out.
I’m wonder if just posting samples so they buy the album would work. Same as old skewl radio, ya hear 1-3 songs then buy the album first the whole thing.
No offense to anyone as its a double edge razor. Things like protools allows the bypass of record companies, but it also clogs the industry with too much to find what ya want. Refer back to the two videos to start the thread.
Kinda goes with an old saying I use “ it’s good to teach engineering, but never give away your whole bag of tricks, those put food on the table” you earn that money by your own time if trial snd errors, own them.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: nopoop on January 17, 2025, 11:57:09 AM
Halestorm.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 17, 2025, 12:58:11 PM
I like this stuff too.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: icepac on January 19, 2025, 08:02:13 PM
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: AKIron on January 21, 2025, 09:09:31 AM
Well, your vitriol managed to get a thread you didn't like close Animl. Maybe you'd like to call me some names in this thread?
Rock Music died a long time ago btw. Probably because of lousy sound producers.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 21, 2025, 04:01:04 PM
The first song on the first album that made metal. All started right here. 1970
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 21, 2025, 04:40:54 PM
1971
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 21, 2025, 04:55:07 PM
Steve Marriott was the birth of the raspy rock voice, many copied it or tried to hit it. Worked with HP in 82, Steve ended up staying in our small town and partied for 3 weeks, canceling a show in NYC. Wild man, but good guy. 1972
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 22, 2025, 07:11:06 PM
Now for something completely different. Steve Morse was more famous in the 80s-90s, had a breakthrough with Dixie Dregs, he slants into the fusion side of things....and then took the last few Deep Purple tours in place of Ritchie Blackmore, prior to John Lords passing, one of the most incredible keyboard players for DP.
Jerry Peek on bass here.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Eagler on January 24, 2025, 07:20:22 AM
Younger I loved the noise but as I grow older I find silence more pleasing
Eagler
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on January 24, 2025, 07:53:13 AM
Younger I loved the noise but as I grow older I find silence more pleasing
Eagler
Ha! True this. I haven’t owned a home stereo in many years now. Part of the reason is I’d have to build my own to get the quality I’m looking for. And like you I don’t listen enough to bother with it.
My ride home after a show was in silence. Then spend time off fishing on our property in silence. My work life and private life contradicted each other. I leave the work coat at work.
I’m def more quiet in RL than I appear on bbs. Might be the only conversing I do that day.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on February 10, 2025, 08:10:17 PM
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on February 10, 2025, 08:18:22 PM
When I was in HS, and you didn't have this album you were just a dork. lil Sammy Hagar in his youth
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on February 10, 2025, 08:23:12 PM
An album that didn't get as much play. Some of their better stufff. Dueling gtrs before Thin Lizzy did it. Lets count the breaks
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on February 10, 2025, 08:40:55 PM
One thing I know, GA loved his bloody marys with a heavy pour
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on February 10, 2025, 08:43:23 PM
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: icepac on February 11, 2025, 09:52:24 AM
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on February 11, 2025, 10:26:50 AM
Ugh! Worked with him a col times. Dude is weird for sure. A deep seated vegan who had in contract only vegan food can be served to the crew. Talk about a crew wanting to pack ya up and get ya gone.
Vegan must nit be healthy, he was pale as death.
Paul McCartny did/does the same crap.
Ya, I want to see these pale dweebs work like us on a vegan diet.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: icepac on February 11, 2025, 02:35:06 PM
Ugh! Worked with him a col times. Dude is weird for sure. A deep seated vegan who had in contract only vegan food can be served to the crew. Talk about a crew wanting to pack ya up and get ya gone.
Vegan must nit be healthy, he was pale as death.
Paul McCartny did/does the same crap.
Ya, I want to see these pale dweebs work like us on a vegan diet.
So that's your tribute to a dead man?
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on February 11, 2025, 03:16:25 PM
Didn't watch, other things on my mind, sorry. I thought it was Weird Al, so I didn't watch. my bad
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: icepac on February 12, 2025, 02:05:16 PM
Figured it was a mixup.
John Sykes died recently.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on February 22, 2025, 06:37:43 AM
A ling time friend and co-worker recently put this out. Louis is a really good guy.
Louis Svitek Returns with Sviteknology: A New Era of Hard Rock Chicago’s own Louis Svitek, the renowned guitarist behind legendary bands like Ministry, M.O.D., Mindfunk, and Pigface, is back with a powerhouse new project—Sviteknology. Combining raw energy, seasoned musicianship, and hard-hitting riffs, Sviteknology carves out a fresh yet familiar sonic landscape for rock and metal fans. Joining Svitek in this hard rock revival is Ryan McGuire, his label partner and thunderous force behind the drums. Adding even more firepower to the lineup are Del Williamson, the commanding vocalist from Mayhem Inc., and Troy Gourley, the groove-driven bassist from Marz. Together, they bring a relentless, high-energy sound built for the stage and the speakers. Sviteknology’s latest single, “Heavy Blues,” is now available on all major streaming platforms. Fusing gritty, blues-infused guitar work with pounding rhythms and soaring vocals, the track delivers a visceral listening experience that fans of hard rock and heavy music won’t want to miss. Turn it up. Feel the power.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: cattb on February 25, 2025, 07:44:48 PM
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: sparky127 on February 28, 2025, 01:51:39 PM
TL ain't gonna R...
"There's no good radio stations anymore"
https://live365.com/station/The-Zone-a13427
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Animl-AW on March 07, 2025, 11:40:37 AM
Most popular question to me was what band was my fav to work with. It seems to have taken 45 yrs to figure it out. BB King was like family, treated me like gold (12 yrs). Therefore seems to have topped my list. But I never would have bought his music, just not my style. GREAT human being though, miss him.
Came to me, my fav band to work with was MTB. worked for them many times over 80s-2000s. We became friends. We always knew it was going to be a fun show. everything was always running smooth. The band was very comfortable to work with, their show was comfortable, the audience was comfortable. It was always just a good time. No egos, just playing comfort music.
I have some stories, one shortened one was the bus was a PITA to pull into the arena in that space, so after Sound check I offered a ride to the hotel in my car, a large 1980 Buick Delta 88. I thought I would make 2 trips because of large band,.. but they decided to all pile in at one time,... 8 grown adults in my car hanging out the windows for room and ROFLOAO, like high school kids. it was a fun day. The Flute player Jerry and I used to play AW together. If I miss anyone I miss these guys the most.
every one great humans. Doug Gray is the most known voice over todd. I'm a country cowboy at heart,
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: icepac on March 08, 2025, 12:34:59 PM
A ling time friend and co-worker recently put this out. Louis is a really good guy.
Louis Svitek Returns with Sviteknology: A New Era of Hard Rock Chicago’s own Louis Svitek, the renowned guitarist behind legendary bands like Ministry, M.O.D., Mindfunk, and Pigface, is back with a powerhouse new project—Sviteknology. Combining raw energy, seasoned musicianship, and hard-hitting riffs, Sviteknology carves out a fresh yet familiar sonic landscape for rock and metal fans. Joining Svitek in this hard rock revival is Ryan McGuire, his label partner and thunderous force behind the drums. Adding even more firepower to the lineup are Del Williamson, the commanding vocalist from Mayhem Inc., and Troy Gourley, the groove-driven bassist from Marz. Together, they bring a relentless, high-energy sound built for the stage and the speakers. Sviteknology’s latest single, “Heavy Blues,” is now available on all major streaming platforms. Fusing gritty, blues-infused guitar work with pounding rhythms and soaring vocals, the track delivers a visceral listening experience that fans of hard rock and heavy music won’t want to miss. Turn it up. Feel the power.
Yeah, that is schweet.
That kind of vibe is what "monster magnet" was trying to create but that above is thicker.
Here's buckethead playing slow and heavy blues.
Title: Re: What happened to rock/music
Post by: Devil 505 on March 08, 2025, 12:51:17 PM
But ya can aways love the non Pro's Highschool and college Drum lines https://youtu.be/lMRrjliY4z8?si=116jx2ZR9MxSW9my
Pantallica
https://youtu.be/VlDMG-c9rIM?si=wgSk5p9IAkHThvOP
Lemmy Is God who used to be a Roadie for Hendrix
https://youtu.be/lpzEpAckyRE?si=UI0rTDJla_anKE5C
Always loved that God Smack drum battle. Its so very well rehearsed, and both good drummers and great timing.
I didn’t do sound, they just needed a body count on local crew, but I hooked up the drum risers motors at a show. lol
Ha! I also played drums for quite a while in my teen yrs.
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Post by: Animl-AW on March 12, 2025, 09:50:01 AM
All good stuff posted.
There’s still good modern rock out there. But doesn’t seem to be the quantity or famous.the audience seems to be splintered off into other genres. In the day s majority was into the same stuff.
Video killed the radio star.
MTV killed more lasting bands than it created. Most stuff in MTV lasted months or 1 yr. Most forgotten. As soon as I saw ZZ Top go contemporary video with fluffy guitars and choreographed stage shows they lost me. Same with many like J. Geils Band.
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Post by: Molsman on March 12, 2025, 12:32:42 PM
I could gone in with more bands . I played bass in my earlier years. First song I learned was Dream Warriors by Dokken.
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Post by: ~ZoSo~ on March 12, 2025, 01:13:09 PM
There’s still good modern rock out there. But doesn’t seem to be the quantity or famous.the audience seems to be splintered off into other genres. In the day s majority was into the same stuff.
Video killed the radio star.
MTV killed more lasting bands than it created. Most stuff in MTV lasted months or 1 yr. Most forgotten. As soon as I saw ZZ Top go contemporary video with fluffy guitars and choreographed stage shows they lost me. Same with many like J. Geils Band.
I agree 100%. When ZZTop brought in the synthesizers they lost that raw bluesy drive.
https://youtu.be/9W8d8YIsDkk?si=6hAg-wgG_yjB0JPR
https://youtu.be/hjaOKzCfq1o?si=0G3XSBatLhhdkERs
https://youtu.be/1__BAJ_vb80?si=ZN6m0X6aUTOQYGtp
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Post by: Eagler on March 12, 2025, 01:28:57 PM
Zz Tops Fandango! Tour in the mid 70's was a fantastic concert!
I was a junior in high school when they came to the Jacksonville fl coliseum
Eagler
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Post by: Animl-AW on March 12, 2025, 04:44:24 PM
Zz Tops Fandango! Tour in the mid 70's was a fantastic concert!
I was a junior in high school when they came to the Jacksonville fl coliseum
Eagler
I saw them in 75-ish before Fandago. Their show was simple, came out like just dudes snd ripped the roof off. Mostly Tres Hombres and Rio Grande Mud songs, which were my favorite albums of them. The rest is ok, I just didn’t cate for their MTV style stage act, fluffy spinning gtrs and all. Most of their stuff good.
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Post by: ~ZoSo~ on March 14, 2025, 12:04:31 AM
https://youtu.be/kK2pRvb6390?si=Hp38KGp2Iny5MUOS
https://youtu.be/pfdVqF8YJbY?si=TfK7HXit0AQrkI-E
https://youtu.be/6S6SpFBKdqw?si=xg5MmJdqohMPzKM1
https://youtu.be/uPUbq2wDOOE?si=ONlGzAOfu74L6Qxz
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Post by: LCADolby on March 15, 2025, 10:36:32 PM
It died with Jeff Beck
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Post by: nopoop on March 27, 2025, 12:10:57 PM
SF late 60's was a wealth of music. My favorite band that I saw many times.
https://youtu.be/XM3o5fe6LiQ?si=n1EIAi2h0NFSiS8C
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Post by: -gg- on March 27, 2025, 05:57:53 PM
My favorite decade for music so far was the 90s. I think it tops the 60s, but I do love the 60s - as well as a bunch of stuff from any era. I just think that the stuff that came out in the 90s was such a huge wave of great talent, across genres.
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Post by: Animl-AW on March 27, 2025, 08:25:52 PM
I'm a fan of anything done well. Everything from Symphonies to Metal. But I'm heavy rock.
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Post by: Animl-AW on March 27, 2025, 08:40:10 PM
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Post by: Molsman on March 27, 2025, 11:46:50 PM
I have had all those songs on my Ipod when I rode hard and heavy with my club plus many more but ya forgot this Song animl I very die hard southern Rock biker Song Animl with your background we Could keep this thread going forever!!! I was lucky to meet dave Mustaine and drink with Megadeath pre show same with Meeting Metallica getting their autographs but the picture I cherished the Most the I lost in a House fire was with the Prince of Darkness himself Ozzy he was in Philly after 9/11 doing a book tour my buddy and I were lucky to get free tickets for 93.3 wmmr Still a true Live Rock station with live Dj's just wish i had that photo in my safe at the time of the fire.
I have had all those songs on my Ipod when I rode hard and heavy with my club plus many more but ya forgot this Song animl I very die hard southern Rock biker Song
https://youtu.be/W8-xonNg3UI?si=QCvbBRBhlKEM003Z
Weird, never heard that one to remember it.
Weird story A kinda pedestrian club with mixed peds and clubbers...called ABATE, a lot of my friends and many other clubbers road their runs. They actually started motorcycle training in our state and approval by BMV.
A N Y W A Y. We had 3500-4k bikes in a run a few time a year. The President knew what I did and asked me to setup a band for the party after a run at race track oval. Gave the guy a number, said here, call this guy tell him what ya want. Usually it's just local biker bands.......He bought Molly Hatchet for the day. Therefore they need our gear, you can bet I had that throttle cracked on that system that day.
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Post by: Molsman on March 28, 2025, 12:22:30 AM
Dam ya never hear that Song Rolling Thunder???? your the music master
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Post by: Molsman on March 28, 2025, 12:33:18 AM
For Some Reason i Cant find a Liver video of this song just the regular thing ,, They made the Song for Vets of Nam
https://youtu.be/IH8ucO59dIk?si=Hs_n2qegle8KZTtl
but it is one of my all time Favorite ride Songs if I still rode,,, i need a trike now so i can keep 3 wheels up instead of 2
Molsman was always my gamer name because I was Drinking Molson Ice back then but it also became my biker name,,,,,,, The locals tried to get me change to Doc but i told the Mother of the Charter there is To Many Doc's in the Mc World so they let me keep my name
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Post by: Animl-AW on March 28, 2025, 11:06:11 AM
For Some Reason i Cant find a Liver video of this song just the regular thing ,, They made the Song for Vets of Nam
https://youtu.be/IH8ucO59dIk?si=Hs_n2qegle8KZTtl
but it is one of my all time Favorite ride Songs if I still rode,,, i need a trike now so i can keep 3 wheels up instead of 2
Molsman was always my gamer name because I was Drinking Molson Ice back then but it also became my biker name,,,,,,, The locals tried to get me change to Doc but i told the Mother of the Charter there is To Many Doc's in the Mc World so they let me keep my name
That club stuff was never something I pursued. Sometimes you become friends because they are always where you are, I don’t pursue em.. I was personal friends with many big dogs in it. They asked me If I wanted “my rocker”. I was like, wait, I’ve known you as equal friends for 10-15 yrs and now you ask me to prospect, and I have to get you a beer? No, I’m your friend, get me a drink. And this stuff where club first than bike then family? Just call me when ya want to get together, keep that rocker. I was of the mindset,… pigeons flock together, eagles fly solo. Besides full trust just isn’t there. I road heavy because I didn’t trust many around me. Some Unstable freaks, some way way out there.
That was as a life time ago, I was just 30 when I backed away. In 95 there was just too much warring going on for my blood. Plus my son was OTW, didn’t want him anywhere near it. I cleaned my act up for him. Ys gotta do the right thing.
But, the best lesson in street smarts, you can spot a lying fool 10 miles away. Don’t miss a thing about it. I’m good. Whats around now isn’t the same, its a yuppie and SOA fad. It was a learning experience I never sought. They just like/ed me <shrug> almost all of them are gone now. They were all 10 yrs older. With work amping up I just didn’t have time to ride anymore. One of my closest friends in that world was very high ranking, he ended up following me and quit the club, he was happier.
Back to the thread. Last time with MH, Danny the singer had diabetes, got sick, and had gotten way under weight, ending up dying a few months later.
As for not knowing every song, I listen to music at work all day, I road home in a silent car. I don’t even own a stereo. Tinnitus blows.
I’m good where I am in life.
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Post by: Molsman on March 28, 2025, 06:59:39 PM
That club stuff was never something I pursued. Sometimes you become friends because they are always where you are, I don’t pursue em.. I was personal friends with many big dogs in it. They asked me If I wanted “my rocker”. I was like, wait, I’ve known you as equal friends for 10-15 yrs and now you ask me to prospect, and I have to get you a beer? No, I’m your friend, get me a drink. And this stuff where club first than bike then family? Just call me when ya want to get together, keep that rocker. I was of the mindset,… pigeons flock together, eagles fly solo. Besides full trust just isn’t there. I road heavy because I didn’t trust many around me. Some Unstable freaks, some way way out there.
That was as a life time ago, I was just 30 when I backed away. In 95 there was just too much warring going on for my blood. Plus my son was OTW, didn’t want him anywhere near it. I cleaned my act up for him. Ys gotta do the right thing.
But, the best lesson in street smarts, you can spot a lying fool 10 miles away. Don’t miss a thing about it. I’m good. Whats around now isn’t the same, its a yuppie and SOA fad. It was a learning experience I never sought. They just like/ed me <shrug> almost all of them are gone now. They were all 10 yrs older. With work amping up I just didn’t have time to ride anymore. One of my closest friends in that world was very high ranking, he ended up following me and quit the club, he was happier.
Back to the thread. Last time with MH, Danny the singer had diabetes, got sick, and had gotten way under weight, ending up dying a few months later.
As for not knowing every song, I listen to music at work all day, I road home in a silent car. I don’t even own a stereo. Tinnitus blows.
I’m good where I am in life.
Another favorite
https://youtu.be/TsoLb-E7oy8?si=J30NAR7NSR1kJGYH
My Brothers from the day I was 30 back then so this Pick is 20 years old Taken after a charity autism Run I am the only one not blacked out and tghe Guy on his Knees was my Prospect which we patched in after the run . (https://i.postimg.cc/nLN5k3xQ/bikerdays.jpg)
But music realated man i wish i could meet up with ya sometime but I live in Pa and you probably live far just to talk music
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Post by: icepac on March 28, 2025, 07:36:35 PM
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Post by: Animl-AW on March 28, 2025, 07:48:32 PM
My Brothers from the day I was 30 back then so this Pick is 20 years old Taken after a charity autism Run I am the only one not blacked out and tghe Guy on his Knees was my Prospect which we patched in after the run . (https://i.postimg.cc/nLN5k3xQ/bikerdays.jpg)
But music realated man i wish i could meet up with ya sometime but I live in Pa and you probably live far just to talk music
Correction I was 34ish when I finally became family man.
Ya can meet up regardless, we prolly have mutual war stories on many subjects. That's what fires are for.
I have a few pics of bikes and a pedestrian crew I hung with of about 50. No patches no troubles. We did what we wanted.
Side story, one of our guys worked in a plating company,... you can bet we were all chromed out. Prolly not the right thread, but I'll dig some pics up. Many were machinist, had a few painters,...we all had great looking bikes.
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Post by: sparky127 on March 29, 2025, 08:45:26 AM
Wow! You guys are some real experts, up in here. It’s honestly impressive how committed you all are. Not everyone has the confidence to embrace such... distinctive musical choices.
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Post by: sparky127 on March 29, 2025, 09:17:40 AM
You guys have such a unique taste in music—it's like nothing I’ve ever voluntarily listened to before.
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Post by: sparky127 on March 29, 2025, 09:18:53 AM
I love how you all stay true to your favorites, no matter what anyone with ears might think.
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Post by: sparky127 on March 29, 2025, 09:20:58 AM
It takes real dedication to find this many songs that sound exactly like... that.
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Post by: sparky127 on March 29, 2025, 09:21:42 AM
The best thing about this thread? It makes me appreciate silence so much more.
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Post by: sparky127 on March 29, 2025, 10:56:14 AM
It’s amazing how this thread has transported me to a very specific era… of regret.
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Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2025, 10:59:37 AM
It takes real dedication to find this many songs that sound exactly like... that.
You may appreciate my progressive/smooth jazz playlist.
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Post by: Animl-AW on March 29, 2025, 04:39:23 PM
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Post by: turt21 on March 29, 2025, 06:28:23 PM
now theres a classic
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Post by: icepac on March 31, 2025, 08:32:25 AM
A video game company has been making some of the most creative music for the last decade.
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Post by: Animl-AW on March 31, 2025, 08:54:44 AM
I guess thats one way to chase the money.
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Post by: Morpheus on April 01, 2025, 09:18:39 PM
Cari B is still singing!!! Don't worry.
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 02, 2025, 07:30:42 AM
Off subject.
Most radical crowd at a concert I worked?
Wait for it
Wait for it
>AIR SUPPLY<
1990 About 5k of 50k screaming girls trampled the 4’ VIP area fence, 5ft crowd barrier, and front stage security, to get on stage with the band. 15 cops were sent in to get em off. I was on stage mixing monitors.
<blank stare> True story.
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Post by: icepac on April 02, 2025, 12:10:56 PM
I spanked Wendy-o-Williams as she passed by me with a running chain saw at the 9:30 club.
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 02, 2025, 02:10:45 PM
I spanked Wendy-o-Williams as she passed by me with a running chain saw at the 9:30 club.
HA! She was thrown in jail at a show I did in the 80s
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Post by: icepac on April 03, 2025, 08:15:33 AM
I had to rip the arms off my Izod shirt to gain admission after the bouncer said "dress code violation" and "The Bank's over there" (a preppy nightclub).
Of course, I saw the same bouncer during "ballroom dance night" with "Doc Scatlin and the imperial palms" being the band.
He said "approved" and stamped my hand.
DC bars were epic in the 1980s.
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 03, 2025, 09:01:50 AM
I had to rip the arms off my Izod shirt to gain admission after the bouncer said "dress code violation" and "The Bank's over there" (a preppy nightclub).
Of course, I saw the same bouncer during "ballroom dance night" with "Doc Scatlin and the imperial palms" being the band.
He said "approved" and stamped my hand.
DC bars were epic in the 1980s.
81-83, did sound and bouncing at a bar that stomped Studio 54. It could never be built again today.
2 story building, one open room, 45’ ft ceiling, sat 3200, one huge bar, 4 satellite bars, glassed in balcony private club, which I was a free member, fire places great bar nice couches, had outdoor built in pool, arcade, billiard, 2 small restaurants, 10 waitresses, 10 bouncers, the main room had full concert stage. Teared seating 60x100 dance floor. We called it the pleasure dome. Ut was called Pointe East in IL. Had national touring acts every weekend. Beautiful interior. Prolly mire went in there than studio 54.
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 09, 2025, 06:13:21 PM
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 09, 2025, 06:47:09 PM
Some may find this interesting.
Iron Maiden backstage at the club/bar concert venue I first worked at, where I learned lighting, sound and pyro. The very place I got my start in sound, and started my reputation. Was my first show, I was still a lil green, just as a stagehand. Drinking age then was 19 for beer, but I just turned 21 when these guys came in,... damn near a life time ago. Mid page you'll se B&W pic of Iron Maiden backstage at Pointe East 1981.
https://tinyurl.com/yeyttpv5
The irony of it all
Rick Derringer, Guess Who, Rare Earth were my first 3 shows on stage with band mixing.
I posted a few of the monthly schedules of Pointe East I also worked the Wet-Ts on stage, picked the next girl, walked her to the tub and poured the water.
https://animl-aw.com/images/
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Post by: icepac on April 12, 2025, 07:27:53 AM
I went to the Limelight just north of miami while in high school.
A few weeks later, they raised the drinking age to 19.
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Post by: Masherbrum on April 12, 2025, 11:00:48 PM
I went to the Limelight just north of miami while in high school.
A few weeks later, they raised the drinking age to 19.
Our venue was more like the Playboy club. Boat loads of snow. Unfortunately it used to be called The Poison Apple, a hardcore disco from the late 70s, which that crowd didn't mix well when we turned into a rock concert venue. As a bouncer in my off time, fights were nightly, many lawsuits followed, we were a bit rough on those who got too far out of line. There was a bouncer for each waitress, someone flash their flashlight across the room and 9 came running. The laws were different, we could never build a place like that again, unless it was a private club only. When they shut down in 84ish the building sat for 25 yrs because no one could figure out who actually owned it to collect back taxes, tear it down...etc. It was mob owned and everyone just skated into the dark. I went off to do the Chicago west side rock clubs. Every rock club had a band almost every night. Biz was good for a greenhorn getting experience. Supposedly it was the biggest scene in the country. <shrug> I dunno, I wasn't at every other place.
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 13, 2025, 11:21:59 PM
One of my all time favs, long before MTV fluff, most funnest concert I ever attended. Saw this tour.
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 13, 2025, 11:26:49 PM
Their best era with Bryon singing. Saw these guys when I was 15.lol
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Post by: Eagler on April 14, 2025, 07:21:21 AM
Uriah Heep...late night after hours kitchen and breakdown at Steak and Ale..summer of 76..good high times!
Eagler
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 14, 2025, 08:18:08 AM
Back in the day when the band was the draw and focus, not the production. If ya didn’t captivate the crowd the production wouldn’t. Basic light show that mostly just washed the stage with some color and some accent lights. Sound was not over processed and compressed, it reached out and grabbed ya. Keyboards were used a lot more, every band that had KBs they had a Hammond B-3 organ, which were made for churches, and they rocked it.
Some say, “you did all those bands”, but I was born about 5 yrs too late, these were the real bands of the 70s I really wanted to work. I missed that boat, unless they lasted into my time. Meh!
Today production is 70% of the show, you can thrown anyone up there.
I think concerts were more fun then.
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Post by: Molsman on April 14, 2025, 09:55:56 PM
I have to Say this Miley Cyrus Rocked this song and Elton John even gave Metallica Kudo's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAX2g_t-kkY
Elton John's version with Miley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjIeiCPgnUI
Elton's version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgcD0XErPZo
Better then Ezra 's Version after Miss you and Juicy
I was at the concert and in the Section Kevin Called the crazies 2nd row......... But when I saw them at Musik Fest in bethlem Pa,,,,, Elton actually sent them a the opening Piano Part
Moon was better than most in his era. There wasn’t a big pool of great drummers. Same with Ringo, but I doubt they match newer drummers. Back then Buddy Rich was top shelf, above them. Paul McCartney played quite a few Ringo parts on albums, or invented the beat. Yet named best in the world at the time, even tho Bidfy Rich could just blow him away. BR was top shelf ahole too, like seriously.
Not saying they are not good at all, I just have doubts they could keep up with others. I don’t think Moon could keep up with Aldridge, he was mire the poser and got famous for it.
Heard a lot of non-famous name drummers shock me.
There was a band that played at our rock club in the 80s called Chameleon, where Yanni came from. During the show their drummer did a killer solo on a drum riser that spun 360 degrees in any direction, spinning upside down this guy held it together. That was amazing to me. It was a gimmick, but still took skill.
Lot of hidden talent out there. Lots of forgotten names too.
Just IMO
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Post by: Devil 505 on April 15, 2025, 11:09:51 AM
Do yourself a favor and listen to Lars on the "...and Justice for All" album. He's a monster on that album.
He's been pretty meh ever since, but his performance on that album is truly great.
I agree lars came up with some good stuff in timing, also agree he’s been meh since. His longevity is questionable, IMO
A lot of artist are greatest in albums #1-2. Usually because they dumped a lot of time into those tunes. Once iff and running living the dream and commitments that available time flys out the window and future albums take a hit on thought, they are now just filling a contract.
Usually a 3rd album is not up to par.
ZZ-Top Queen Ted Nugent Kiss Bad Company Etc… They are famous for and their best stuff was their first - 2nd album. I can’t stand Queen after first 2 albums. They took on stardom using keel phrases and looking instead of just producing great stuff.
Point being greatness comes with longevity too.
Aldredge himself got famous for his drum solo in Black Oak Arkansas live album Raunch n Roll. Despite killing it in Ozzy and White Snake, his fame is based on that solo, which he has now played every show for 40 yrs. That said still killer drummer in his 70s.
The more memory kicks in I can still think of better.
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Post by: nopoop on April 15, 2025, 02:39:37 PM
Long ago at the orignal Filmore. Headliner Stepenwolf Second Beautiful Day Third Creedence Clearwater. A new band from Berkley...
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 15, 2025, 03:13:08 PM
The “Edge” David Evans, who imo is an over glamorized fraud stole that whole Gilmour thing. IMO most over rated gtr player out there. The Edge phfffff!! Lol
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Post by: nopoop on April 16, 2025, 09:46:03 AM
Like his guitar tone but little else
Over rated guitar player ? Zack Whyld
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 16, 2025, 10:11:37 AM
I don’t think I ever listened to him. I actually don’t listen to much these days. I don’t even own a stereo. I quit exploring new music years ago. I’m just way past burned out. I hit 30 yrs and wanted out 15 yrs ago. Then corporate stuff choked me with money and that kept me in the last 15 yrs (45yrs), it just became a paycheck. I no longer have that level of drive. Been there, done that, have all the t-shirts. “ All yours now, run with it”
Its gotta be serious skill to catch my ear and time. I don’t desire to “listen” anymore. I’m seriously enjoying silence. Only thing I mix since Feb 4th is videos I attempt to make to kill time.
This is where the job burnout ruins a hobby. And significant losses probably played a role. Its just not important to me anymore. Its a plastic factory.
So ya, I’m ignorant to him/them. No clue. I’m good with that.
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Post by: Tumor on April 17, 2025, 05:02:11 PM
Watched the rock and roll hall of fame show last night..
Didn't understand putting hip hop "artists" into it..seemed some were understandably upset with this nomination taking decades while others with much less success getting in before them..
Made a joke out of entire thing imo
Eagler
It's 2025. Public Enemy is in and Boston isn't. The RRHOF has been a joke for a long long time. :mad:
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 17, 2025, 09:30:37 PM
The RRHOF has been a joke for a long long time. :mad:
Its such a sad joke. First cpl yrs it made sense, since then it just turn into a bowl of WTF mush. I pay zero attention to that fluff. Grammy same crap. It's a farce.
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Post by: icepac on April 19, 2025, 07:42:28 AM
Who does the better solo?
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Post by: icepac on April 23, 2025, 12:56:30 PM
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 23, 2025, 02:06:48 PM
.Sounds like what my son played. Same mindset.
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Post by: Animl-AW on April 26, 2025, 06:14:44 PM
A fellow live sound engineer's take on this zepplin song. it's decent. We're all musicians
Facebook link but.. <shrug> https://www.facebook.com/dave.jedlicka/videos/650737537869982/?rdid=MScTPXC0xDG7oIUO
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Post by: hazmatt on April 26, 2025, 06:35:42 PM
Holy cow. That takes me back. I still remember driving over the Coronado bridge from North Island with my t-tops off and cranking this
HA! good old stuffff Music is like a scent, within 250ms it's sparks an exact memory deeply buried under the layers. Triggers. They can happen within the first 3-4 notes. Many times I listen just to go back to the days and what I was doing then.
This reminds me of the 80s doing indoor pyro for concerts, for whateva reason. Someone was probably playing it while we worked.