Arena setting to limit bomber drones to cruise settings

[gyrene81]

Try actually reading and thinking.

i have, repeatedly and it's obvious you want to artificially force behavior modification. don't try to tell us every time you up a fighter that you fly the way actual fighter pilots flew, like take 100% fuel all the time, always fly with a wingman, keep your speed down so you and your wingman can stay within 50 yards of each other until you get into a dog fight, etc...etc..etc... no you don't do any of that, so trying to get a program change to force people to fly bombers the way you believe they should is hypocritical at best.

in an event like fso where there is a 60 minute time limit on initial strikes, in many setups bombers flying at historical speeds would need more than 60 minutes.

The Ju88A-4 is a 1940 version that fought in the Battle of Britain.  The problem is that bombers fly at full throttle at all times, not that we have the wrong versions.

actually the ju-88a1 which was in service in 1939 was the more common type, the a4 model didn't go into service until 1940 and due to problems with the engines, the ju-88a5 was introduced which was a1 with longer wings. the ju-88a4 actually entered full service with the new jumo 211j engines in 1941.

if anything you should just be wishing for more time line specific aircraft to fit the special events better...

[skorpion]

I think it would be very hard to code it for the player's bomber.  It would not be particularly hard to do so for the drones.

well i see another flaw with this. the drones might get coded like the ones offline (missions) and fly so slow that the main bomber just stalls and falls away from the sky.

[skorpion]

I think i over estimate it,actually.

You keep saying the main point and you dont even realize it.

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did they get PAID EXTRA? You saying that alone is you confirming that they did get PAID for what they did period. Scouts in AH? they get nothing. no perks, no "pay" nothing.

So if you want to go the "real life" route, i can just as easily say that Scouts got paid in rl. Scouts in AH dont get paid at all. therefore they deserve perkies.

Now skorpion, shut up already. We dont need another thread derailed because you feel you need to prove some point that not even yourself know what it is.

as for your stupidity, you obviously cant interpret what those simple sentences mean. it means your saying troops that went scouting got paid more for doing that very thing they were originally assigned and they dont get paid more.

honestly, take another 30 seconds to read and make a reply.

[Tyrannis]

as for your stupidity, you obviously cant interpret what those simple sentences mean. it means your saying troops that went scouting got paid more for doing that very thing they were originally assigned and they dont get paid more.

honestly, take another 30 seconds to read and make a reply.

 
Im done arguing with this illiterate pre-teen. i really just need to squeltch him.

Sorry Karnak. I didnt mean for this pissing contest to take up your thread.

Im out. -poof-

[skorpion]

 
Im done arguing with this illiterate pre-teen. i really just need to squeltch him.

Sorry Karnak. I didnt mean for this pissing contest to take up your thread.

Im out. -poof-

im sure your just butthurt that you know you were wrong on this. what you really wanted was perks for nothing.

you didnt even give a single good reply to the OP as i recall...so, tell me, who was the real genius that started it?

[Karnak]

gyrene81,

This request specifically omitted the MAs and thus would have zero impact on you.  It was a request for a setting option that could be used for scenarios and custom arenas.  You are railing and gnashing your teeth at a strawman, because you didn't read the request.

skorpion,

That would be a bug.  Flying on cruise settings should result in speeds in the 220mph range for B-24s, for example.

[skorpion]

gyrene81,

This request specifically omitted the MAs and thus would have zero impact on you.  It was a request for a setting option that could be used for scenarios and custom arenas.  You are railing and gnashing your teeth at a strawman, because you didn't read the request.

skorpion,

That would be a bug.  Flying on cruise settings should result in speeds in the 220mph range for B-24s, for example.

not really sure its a bug as much as it was the way that HT decided to re-do the offline missions. maybe it just didnt come out like they wanted it to?

[Shifty]

scouting occured thousands of times in ww2.

So did formations of bombers flying at cruise speed.

I requested perkies because we do have perkies in the system and if i ever want to up a tiger i DO have to earn some whether i like it or not.

I guess earning those perks by actually fighting instead of something as lame as just seeing the enemy is out of the question?

[gyrene81]

gyrene81,

This request specifically omitted the MAs and thus would have zero impact on you.  It was a request for a setting option that could be used for scenarios and custom arenas.  You are railing and gnashing your teeth at a strawman, because you didn't read the request.

no karnak, i did read every part...repeatedly. again, artificially forcing behavior modification to suit what you believe should be what happens. what your wanting would be the same a restricting fuel loadouts to just enough to reach a specific alt and complete the mission. you want people to fly bombers according to real life, give them a reason and teach them how. as long as people continue to view ah as a game, they are going to behave like it's a game and do whatever they feel they can get away with.

[Karnak]

no karnak, i did read every part...repeatedly. again, artificially forcing behavior modification to suit what you believe should be what happens. what your wanting would be the same a restricting fuel loadouts to just enough to reach a specific alt and complete the mission. you want people to fly bombers according to real life, give them a reason and teach them how. as long as people continue to view ah as a game, they are going to behave like it's a game and do whatever they feel they can get away with.

What part of "Not appropriate for the MA" do you not understand?  It was a request for a tool for custom arenas and scenarios, which if you don't like historical events, you can avoid and never, ever be even slightly affected by said request.

The fact is that for the vast majority of bombers, combat was done at cruise settings and the vast majority of fighters combat was done at full power.  In AH both fight at full power, even when the intent of the scenario is to be historical.

This was nothing more than a request for an additional tool that would allow scenarios to be run in a more historical manner.  Your panties are in a bunch over it for some unknown reason.

[Ardy123]

For the FSO, why not limit the fuel and the base the bombers have to up from, this way if they do fly full throttle, they will run out.

[Raptor05121]

For the FSO, why not limit the fuel and the base the bombers have to up from, this way if they do fly full throttle, they will run out.

Yes, because in the years I have been flying BUFFs I always tend to run out of gas with 25% 

I get what OP is saying, but admit it, its not going to happen. BUFFs flew cruise for a reason. If HTC wants to model those reasons (fuel constraints, skewed sights, engine wear, etc) then let him. Don't just put a speed limit.

[Ardy123]

Yes, because in the years I have been flying BUFFs I always tend to run out of gas with 25% 

increase the fuel multiplyer ju88s don't carry nearly as much fuel as a lank.

[gyrene81]

What part of "Not appropriate for the MA" do you not understand?  It was a request for a tool for custom arenas and scenarios, which if you don't like historical events, you can avoid and never, ever be even slightly affected by said request.

The fact is that for the vast majority of bombers, combat was done at cruise settings and the vast majority of fighters combat was done at full power.  In AH both fight at full power, even when the intent of the scenario is to be historical.

This was nothing more than a request for an additional tool that would allow scenarios to be run in a more historical manner.  Your panties are in a bunch over it for some unknown reason.

i fly the special events and if/when i get assigned to fly a bomber i do not want some artificial constraint on my speed, neither do any of the other people who fly bombers in those events. you conveniently overlook the real reasons bombers flew at slower than max speed, of which there were many and none of which exist in ah.

fighters did not fly full throttle the entire time they were in the air any more than bombers did, especially the fighters assigned to bomber escort duty. they actually used more fuel jockeying their throttles trying to stay in formation and within close proximity to the bombers. historically, fighters and bombers took a minimum of 100% fuel all the time. historically a bomber mission took at least 4 hours and many lasted 12+ hours. historically allied fighters didn't travel all the way to the target with the bombers every single time there was a bombing mission. historically the light and medium twin engine bombers flew at low and medium altitudes as fast as they could while maintaining formation. historically heavy bombers stayed within 100 feet of each other to increase the chances of survival, the lead and tail end elements were the most vulnerable.

i don't wear panties, maybe you shouldn't either.