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Offline RotBaron

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Re: How about a J2M?
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2014, 07:40:43 PM »
Does cognac age increase its desirability?

I have a ~30 yr old bottle of Courvoisier in Waterford crystal. 750mL i believe.

One day I'm going to sell it or trade it for the J2M?  :O
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Offline Dragon Tamer

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Re: How about a J2M?
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2014, 08:39:24 PM »
Quote from: -ammo- on October 22, 2014, 11:56:21 AM
So, you guys had no problem intercepting the B-29s?  I believe it after reading the logs.  After the interjections from a few of the normal Axis flyers to introduce  restrictions to allow for the insufficient IJN/IJA plane set, it really wasn't needed.

From Wikipedia so I cannot guarantee accuracy, but the J2M would clearly be competitive in the MA and fill a need for scenarios.

General characteristics

Crew: one, pilot
Length: 9.70 m (32 ft 8 in)
Wingspan: 10.80 m (35 ft 5 in)
Height: 3.81 m (13 ft 0 in)
Wing area: 20 m² (216 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,839 kg (6,259 lb)
Loaded weight: 3,211 kg (7,080 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × One 1,850 hp Mitsubishi MK4R-A Kasei 23a 14-cylinder two-row radial engine, 1,379 kW (1,850 hp)

Performance

Maximum speed: 655 km/h (355kn or 407 mph)
Range: 560 km (302 nmi, 348 mi)
Service ceiling: 11,430 m (37,500 ft)
Rate of climb: 1 402 m/min (4,600 ft/min)
Wing loading: 174 kg/m² (35 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 0.232 kW/kg (0.382 hp/lb)

Armament

Guns: 4 × 20 mm Type 99-2 cannons in the wings, two in each wing, inboard guns having 190 rpg, outboard guns 210 rpg.
Ordnance: 2 × 60 kg (132 lb) bombs or 2 × 200 L (53 US gal) drop tanks.

Your fancy numbers just confuse me boss, found this instead.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/japan/Jack-11-105A.pdf
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Re: How about a J2M?
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2014, 01:56:16 PM »
Beautiful climb rate. Would give the K4 a hard time in a vertical fight +  a niki's fire power
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Re: How about a J2M?
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2014, 02:41:27 PM »
No armor for the pilot or fuel from the pdf file. Magic BB city.
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Re: How about a J2M?
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2014, 02:21:08 AM »
Again I have to ask where these performance numbers came from.

You cant fill it with Yank fighter fuel and put it in Aces High.
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Re: How about a J2M?
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2014, 03:31:03 AM »
Quote from: Rich46yo on October 25, 2014, 02:21:08 AM
Again I have to ask where these performance numbers came from.

You cant fill it with Yank fighter fuel and put it in Aces High.
Looks like US calculated numbers from during WWII.  Top speeds I usually see for the J2M is in the 378-386mph range, depending on the version.  The climb is also not 4600fpm.

Some versions may have armor, I don't recall.
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Re: How about a J2M?
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2014, 04:45:29 AM »
Quote from: bustr on October 24, 2014, 02:41:27 PM
No armor for the pilot or fuel from the pdf file. Magic BB city.

There was at least armored glass for the pilot:


EDIT/...and also 8mm armour plate behind the pilot aswell./EDIT

« Last Edit: October 25, 2014, 06:16:39 AM by Wmaker »
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Re: How about a J2M?
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2014, 06:30:47 PM »
Quote from: RotBaron on October 20, 2014, 12:19:47 PM
The last FSO was in dire need of the plane designed for the defense of Japan from B-29's.

The B-29s had a cap of 20k and once they've dropped no Ki or N1K is going to see anything but their vapor trails...

The 20k cap was because nothing we have can compete higher or because they don't want FSO to drag on?
 

I agree here completely - if the B29s in this past FSO had gone up to 30K, the japanese defense would have been 1 pass and gone with no chance at all to catch up.  20K at least made it a battle. 
My only regret was not trying the B29 NOE strike.   
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Re: How about a J2M?
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2014, 08:38:58 PM »
Quote from: RotBaron on October 22, 2014, 07:40:43 PM
Does cognac age increase its desirability?

I have a ~30 yr old bottle of Courvoisier in Waterford crystal. 750mL i believe.

One day I'm going to sell it or trade it for the J2M?  :O

No, it does not.

And, how much do you want for it?

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Re: How about a J2M?
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2014, 02:47:44 PM »
Quote from: RotBaron on October 22, 2014, 07:40:43 PM
Does cognac age increase its desirability?

I have a ~30 yr old bottle of Courvoisier in Waterford crystal. 750mL i believe.

One day I'm going to sell it or trade it for the J2M?  :O

I agree with mthrockmor ...no not at all....and should you feel the need to get rid of it, let me know....Id gladly pay you for the waterford crystal container.....cognac included of course...Ill take care of empting it for you, got to keep that fishing arm of yours healthy, wouldnt want u to strain it pouring it out.......See im a giver.... What are friends for  :D   :aok

mthrockmor.....ill invite ya over to help empty it....might be to heavy for me  :lol
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Re: How about a J2M?
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2014, 04:51:42 PM »
I've been keeping it for posterity or something like that  :lol

Gf's dad offered me $150 a couple of years ago, I laughed for quite some time.

A couple of bar owners have asked me which one it is, all I know is what it looks like (sort of; it's wrapped in bubble and in a box these days), it has a felt cover over the stopper and no blemishes. Those bar owners said depending, $500 to $2000, they'd have to see it...

I don't know if I've ever had Courvoisier, isn't cognac kinda harsh like scotch? Hard liquor for sipping was never my thing.
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