Vicious Dog

[squelch_19]

You haven't brought up any points that haven't already been made.

And you do not seem to have read the entire thread, or you are just having a hard time grasping it.

We have talked about unstable dogs, random killing, and attacks on humans. And for every one of these there has been an reply posted to it.

The 'Pit Bull' killed another dog. The 'Pit Bull' attacked the child. All this has been posted.

The answer is..."The owner is responsible, in one way or the other."

[rpm]

Yes, I have read the ENTIRE thread.  To quote YOU "This breed will kill another breed. That is what it was bred for." "You can't trust them completely with other dogs. Sooner or later there may be a fight." "People are scared of this breed" "As with any dog with enough size to do as much harm as the APBT, you have no choice but to kill the unstable ones." " So it gets loose and gives people a reason to want the breed banned."

 Maybe if you keep repeating that I haven't read it while you click your heels together your wish will come true.
 You should check out becoming the national spokesman for the breed. You do more harm by speaking than an opponent ever could.

[Curval]

Squelch...let me ask you this...why own a pit bull?  Why not a lab or some other more pleasant breed?

Are you compensating for something?  Must you own a breed that whose sole reason for its existance is due to the fact that it is a good fighter?

I see it all the time...young tough guys with these "tough" dogs.  It is like a status symbol.

Fact is though...it is kind of stupid.  When women see you walking your dog in a park they will move away or cross the road.  When women saw me with my dogs they would cross the road to say hi to my dog, and inevitably me too.  I met lots of women this way.

And my friend, whose dog attacked his daughter, did not mistreat his dogs in any way.  They were loved and well cared for.

Emily snapped.  You dismiss this and say it must have been the owners fault.  You are wrong in this case..pure and simple.

[midnight Target]

I was mistaken, It is an American Bull Dog, not a Bull Terrier.

The remake of "Incredible Journey" has an American Bull Dog in it.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Curval
Squelch...let me ask you this...why own a pit bull?  Why not a lab or some other more pleasant breed?

Are you compensating for something?  Must you own a breed that whose sole reason for its existance is due to the fact that it is a good fighter?

I see it all the time...young tough guys with these "tough" dogs.  It is like a status symbol.

Fact is though...it is kind of stupid.  When women see you walking your dog in a park they will move away or cross the road.  When women saw me with my dogs they would cross the road to say hi to my dog, and inevitably me too.  I met lots of women this way.

And my friend, whose dog attacked his daughter, did not mistreat his dogs in any way.  They were loved and well cared for.

Emily snapped.  You dismiss this and say it must have been the owners fault.  You are wrong in this case..pure and simple.

Plus the dog is just butt ugly

[Suave]

Dogs

This is purely speculation on my part and by no means supported by any scientific studies that I know of but I believe that the relationship between man and dog is one that is so ancient and primordial that we have developed a genetic fondness for eachother . It is known that like babies, images of dogs stimulate a pupillary response in people . A fact that has not been lost on the advertising industry .

[Suave]

When I was a boy I was privledged with the friendship of a couple of Rhodesian Ridgebacks. I've never been around a finer dog. Does anyone else have experience with these hounds ? And if so was your experience dissimilar ?

[rpm]

I've only been around 2 Ridgebacks and both were the biggest "Momma's Boys" I've seen, and I mean that in a very positive way. I never saw either of them take any sort of aggressive posture. Great Dog.

[Suave]

Oh I've seen them be very aggressive, but the objects of their aggression were never family members . One was a black bear, and I can tell you that their reputations that they earned as lion hounds in Africa is deserved .

[capt. apathy]

rpm371

the fact that the dog stopped inches from you not only proved that he was on a strong restraint.

it also proved that he was tied (probably often) and that you where very close to his area.

and curval, a well raised pit is a very pleasant dog to be around. even more friendly than a lab or a st. barnard

[squelch_19]

Originally posted by rpm371
Yes, I have read the ENTIRE thread.  To quote YOU "This breed will kill another breed. That is what it was bred for." "You can't trust them completely with other dogs. Sooner or later there may be a fight." "People are scared of this breed" "As with any dog with enough size to do as much harm as the APBT, you have no choice but to kill the unstable ones." " So it gets loose and gives people a reason to want the breed banned."

 Maybe if you keep repeating that I haven't read it while you click your heels together your wish will come true.
 You should check out becoming the national spokesman for the breed. You do more harm by speaking than an opponent ever could.

Why is it so hard for you to understand that most dogs of this breed are perfectly fine family companions? It is the few that have a problem upstairs that is making the rest of the breed look bad.

I have said that when a dog attacks, it has shown signs that it would likely attack a person long before it did the deed. Not every 'Pit Bull' has the tendency to attack people without a very good reason. But you can't seem to get this into your head.

An unstable APBT needs to be put down.

But when the owners of the dog can't notice the hints that at some time in the future their dog might bite someone, then it becomes the owners fault.

Plain and simple.

[squelch_19]

Originally posted by Curval
Squelch...let me ask you this...why own a pit bull?  Why not a lab or some other more pleasant breed?

Are you compensating for something?  Must you own a breed that whose sole reason for its existance is due to the fact that it is a good fighter?

I see it all the time...young tough guys with these "tough" dogs.  It is like a status symbol.

Fact is though...it is kind of stupid.  When women see you walking your dog in a park they will move away or cross the road.  When women saw me with my dogs they would cross the road to say hi to my dog, and inevitably me too.  I met lots of women this way.

And my friend, whose dog attacked his daughter, did not mistreat his dogs in any way.  They were loved and well cared for.

Emily snapped.  You dismiss this and say it must have been the owners fault.  You are wrong in this case..pure and simple.

If the only way for you to meet women is to have a dog attract them, your in bad shape. Maybe you have something to compensate for.

And I did say that you friends owner mistreated the dog. I said he didn't figure out by the hints the dog gave off before the attack that it was likely to attack someone.

And that makes it the owners fault. Every dog alive will give off signs that it has intentions to chew someone apart long before it does. You have to know what to look for. If you own a dog that attacks someone and you didn't catch the signs, then it is your fault for your ignorance.

[Cougar68]

Keep posting squelch, you're convincing nobody but those that already agree with you.  You can say a thousand times that there are signs, it's the owner's fault, they're great with kids, yada yada yada yada.  But I, and others from what I see, ain't gonna believe it.  I've seen them snap, I've seen them give no warning, and i've seen the results.  When dog ownership requires you to watch them for any signs that they may KILL someone, it ain't worth it.  I'm not alone in my opinion and I'm quite convinced in my line of thought.  So go ahead, post and tell me that I'm wrong.  Makes no difference to me.  I sincerely hope that you and your dog have a long meaningful relationship, and most of all I hope we never have to hear from you that yours ended up injuring someone.  

FWIW I strongly believe ownership is the cause of most aggresive dog attacks.  I had a Rottweiler that I raised from a pup.  She was dumb as a rock but was the best dog I've ever owned.  Rottie's were bred to pull carts.  But some people took advantage of their size and trained them to attack.  Not the breed's fault, but the owner's.  This situation is VASTLY different from that of a pit bull in that the Rottie has no instinct to kill.  Their driving instinct is to eat.  And when they're done eating, they find the food bag and eat some more.  hehe

Cougar

[NUKE]

Plus, his dog is BUTT ugly.

[squelch_19]

Originally posted by Cougar68
Keep posting squelch, you're convincing nobody but those that already agree with you.  Cougar

I think you are wrong. More people have read this thread than have responded to it.  And they can see what I am talking about even though there are a few die-hard anti-'Pit Bull' people such as yourself that post every bad incident they can recall about the dog in an attempt to dissuade others from considering the breed.

I haven't lied about the breed...as a matter of fact I posted some negative things about it myself that most people who own these dogs never have to worry about. If raised right, you'll have no problems from one.

And folks realize this.

BTW...Thanks NUKE!!!!!!!