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« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2003, 04:03:30 PM »
-Concho-: Every thing that you said provides for the rich.  When you hire you private police and do away with any kind of state sponsored police force who will protect the poor and under privileged?

 What do you think causes people to be poor and underprivileged if not socialist government's interference with a free market?

 I mean if the government is so great in providing police (and education, and healthcare), why not make it provide jobs and allocate consumption?

Every night I strap on a gun and a bullet proof vest, kiss my kid on the head and tell her good night, go out on the Interstate and try to do a good job.

 You would still be working as a policemen and be even more appreciated if the police was provided privately. We do not have farmers on the satte payroll but we do get fed.


 Personally, you have my deep respect and I would rather pay you twice your salary voluntarily - I am sure you would easily replace two average New York cops. Especially if you stick to the actual protection.

 

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« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2003, 06:27:28 PM »
If I understand you correctly in your system there would be no poor? Farmers recive a large susbsidy check every month so I guess our food system is socialist too.  They say the reason farmers' hats are creased in the front is from looking in the mail box for the goverment check.  

 here is an example

http://www.ewg.org/farm/

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« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2003, 06:56:51 PM »
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 You idiot. My family and peole I know have been victims of several crimes and I've seen how police handles those. You do not have to be an electrical engineer to know that the system does not work when the lights do not come up.
 In NYC the police protection sucks, the whole system is politicized, corrupted and undermined by Affirmative Action.
 Any agressive cops tryinmg to do their job in NY are chased away or prosecuted because of accusations of "excessive force", "ethnic profiling" or some other crap.
 The windbags like you stay on, chase pot smokers and sing praises to their bosses, whenever they are not getting underfeet of the Fire Department guys.

 miko [/B]


Another highly "reasoned" response from the russian immigrant critic. I fail to see why you remain in this flawed country. I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why you left that workers paradise to come to the seat of capitalism.

You criticise the response of the police to incidents you alege you or your family were involved in because the police have been hamstrung by the illustrations you listed. Then you want a "private" police as a solution?!?!?! The idea of privatizing law enforcement as a way of solving problems begs further private manipulation of the agency. If you thnk the "special interest" impact is bad now imagine what it would be for a "private organization". Who's in charge? Whoever has the most money. Yep that's logical alright. :rolleyes:

As to the last part. I won't drop to your level of name calling and rhetoric. I'll just say that you have never met me, never saw me on duty, never looked at my personell jacket or even been in the same circumstances I worked in. You have not done the job nor placed your life in jeopardy on a daily basis for almost 2 decades. Yet you have the gall to judge my professional worth. All on the basis of a game bbs. :rolleyes:

As far as the  wind bag comment is concerned, I invite you to examine the nearest mirror.
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« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2003, 08:12:50 PM »
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...If I can find someone with out a seat belt I going to stop them and see whats going on....


Isn't this practice illegal?

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« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2003, 08:15:14 PM »
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...Yet you have the gall to judge my professional worth. All on the basis of a game bbs...


Isn't that exactly what you are doing?   Isn't that what everyone here does?

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« Reply #80 on: November 21, 2003, 08:17:33 PM »
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Isn't that exactly what you are doing?   Isn't that what everyone here does?


Please tell me where I questioned his professional status?
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« Reply #81 on: November 21, 2003, 09:14:25 PM »
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Isn't this practice illegal?


Not in Texas.  I think it is in Florida though...  may be a state by state basis.

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« Reply #82 on: November 21, 2003, 09:24:38 PM »
It's called Primary and Secondary states. Primary ones like Texas can actually pull you over and arrest you for not wearing a seat belt. Crazy but true, makin' the world a safer place.

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« Reply #83 on: November 21, 2003, 10:18:11 PM »
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Not in Texas.  I think it is in Florida though...  may be a state by state basis.


It is state-by-state right now IIRC.  It isn't legal in Arizona.  Not wearing your seltbelt can get you a ticket, but it can't lead to a search like having a headlight out or expired registration.

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« Reply #84 on: November 22, 2003, 12:11:11 AM »
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It is state-by-state right now IIRC.  It isn't legal in Arizona.  Not wearing your seltbelt can get you a ticket, but it can't lead to a search like having a headlight out or expired registration.


In AZ. it is insufficient cause to stop soley for a seatbelt violation. You can be cited, not arrested creamo, there is a difference. It's a civil infraction meaning arrest and jail time are not a punishment under the violation. You can be fined but not sentenced to jail. Failure to apprear or pay will get your license suspended. Driving on a suspended license is criminal and you can be arrested & or jailed in that case.

Never ceases to amaze me how so many just focus on traffic situations instead of looking at the much larger function of police work. I guess since that's all they see they figure that's all there is. :rolleyes:  Frankly, the regular patrol officers in my home town have so little time between calls they don't do much with traffic.
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« Reply #85 on: November 22, 2003, 02:54:35 AM »
Only time we arrest for a traffic violation is when the violator refused to sign the citation, also it seem that 90% of my seat belt violations are unrestrained child/safety seat violations.  Whats ya'lls take on that?

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« Reply #86 on: November 22, 2003, 03:10:28 AM »
I'm just a google cop.

http://www.ifisher.com/arrest.html

Seems like the Supreme Court says you can be arrested, but I really don't care. If someone doesn't restrain their children properly they should be beaten, not arrested.

Course I don't really want to get involved in the whole aspect of what peace officers are all about. Again, I don't care. They make so little money I side with them by default. People screw without condoms all the time but I don't think you should barge into their homes and tell them you are there for their well being.

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« Reply #87 on: November 22, 2003, 03:50:46 AM »
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

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« Reply #88 on: November 22, 2003, 03:59:27 AM »
It's SO true. Feel free to post it again whenever need be.

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« Reply #89 on: November 22, 2003, 04:03:38 AM »
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.