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Offline lasersailor184

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« Reply #60 on: February 24, 2004, 03:04:22 PM »
Oh, so I finally get it.


It doesn't actually exist.  Thanks horn. :)
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« Reply #61 on: February 24, 2004, 03:14:15 PM »
^^it does exist. Just because you are incapable of conceptualizing it doesn't make it less so.

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« Reply #62 on: February 24, 2004, 03:35:40 PM »
Wow, all kinds of topics touched on here....

First of all, on topic:
I don't see why so many people are up in arms about gay marriages.  If you are opposed to it...I'll say this slowly....
don't.....marry.....a....gay...person!!  Whew...how hard was that?  :lol

As for "In God We Trust" thing, it was added to currency in the late 1800's (i.e. over 100 years after this country was founded) and to paper money in the 1920's IIRC.  

Just like like "Under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954 (56?).  McCarthyism at its finest.

Unfortunately, the SCOTUS let it pass constitutional muster at the time by declaring it "ceremonial deism".  Unfortunately, the fact that so many religious folks start screaming and complaining the minute it is suggested to remove gives the proof to that lie. :rolleyes:

As for the old (and I mean real old) argument the the words, or phrase 'Seperation of Church and State" is not found in the consititution.  Well, that's true, and there are lots of other things that we take for granted in our modern legal system that aren't in the consitution.  You go that argument, it's a really slippery slope.  
You wanna know where the phrase came from?  I believe it came from Thomas Jefferson's (You remember him, right?) Letter to the Danbury Baptists.  Looking at the context of the times (it wasn't called the enlightenment for nothing) and the political climate in which the constitution of the US was written, it is clear the the framers of the constitution intended there to be a separation that prevented government interference with religion and religious interference with government.  
Remember, many of the settlers came here to escape religious persecution.  
If any of you are interested in tangling with, or asking questions of, some realy knowledgable people on this topic, check out this site.

Oh, and one other thing, don't take anyone's word on this.  Do yourself a favor and do some research (real research, not listening to Faux News re-writing history) and back up some of those unfounded assertions floating around in this thread.  Don't believe me either, go out and prove me wrong!  Especially since most of this is off the top of my head. :)

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« Reply #63 on: February 24, 2004, 03:41:36 PM »
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Personally, I don't think he has a choice in the matter. I'm all for such an ammendment, myself. The joyful acceptance of this lifestyle by the public, or having it forced upon an unwilling public, either way, would spell the doom of our country...the ol' "slippery slope" thingy, ya know? But this is only my humble opinion.



With every single homosexual marriage in San Francisco, you become more and more attractive to your own gender.

Damn... you're getting sexy. :D
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« Reply #64 on: February 24, 2004, 03:54:18 PM »
Bush and his "opinions" remind me on these hardliner moslem idiots.
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« Reply #65 on: February 24, 2004, 03:54:53 PM »
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With every single homosexual marriage in San Francisco, you become more and more attractive to your own gender.

Damn... you're getting sexy. :D


Got pics? ;)

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« Reply #66 on: February 24, 2004, 04:51:46 PM »
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With every single homosexual marriage in San Francisco, you become more and more attractive to your own gender.

Damn... you're getting sexy. :D


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« Reply #67 on: February 24, 2004, 05:11:59 PM »
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^^it does exist. Just because you are incapable of conceptualizing it doesn't make it less so.


Let me put it this way.  Might be difficult for a liberal / fabricator to comprehend this.


If it's not on paper, it's not passed through congress, it's not a law.  Therefor, this doesn't exist at all.
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« Reply #68 on: February 24, 2004, 05:13:31 PM »
I smell a Hortlund wannabe.

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« Reply #69 on: February 24, 2004, 05:43:36 PM »
I believe it is ratified by individual states......  Not sure though.  Something about a Connecticut Convention during the Confederation period (the first one).

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« Reply #70 on: February 24, 2004, 05:46:39 PM »
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I smell a Hortlund wannabe.


No, Hortlund understands how laws and constitutions work.

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« Reply #71 on: February 24, 2004, 05:50:36 PM »
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Remind me not to get drunk around you.. don't want to wake up with a sore tailpipe!



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« Reply #72 on: February 24, 2004, 06:12:41 PM »
This topic again. Bah.

Look, I am against gay marriage. I don't have to explain why to anyone. I will support candidates in the Congress and Presidency that feel the same way. I will hope the President will select Supreme Court Justices that will also interpret the Constitution in a manner I agree with on this and any other topic. The rest of you feel free to do the same, I won't begrudge you that freedom.

Frogman, I was trying to figure out your shades account, but it really doesn't matter. For a fellow that is supposedly "enlightened", you sure have a particular talent for ignorance.

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« Reply #73 on: February 24, 2004, 08:57:08 PM »
lol when have i ever said i was enlightend.

And your obviously in the closet gay, that can be the only reason your against gay marriage and wont explain why other then 'cause'.

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« Reply #74 on: February 24, 2004, 09:20:33 PM »
Wow. How analytical of you. Typical Frogman comment- all blather, no substance.