Why all the complaining about HO?

[pellik]

Originally posted by FOGOLD
A dweeb is a new or less skilled player, that's all.

A dweeb is someone who uses dweebish tactics and/or flys dweebish planes.

-pellik

[Ghosth]

Technically

A dweeb is anyone who fly's flight sims.

Yes we ALL are dweebs.

Now go find another word to label people with.  I never really did like that one.

As to a true HO I've seldom had trouble ducking em.

But the guy who whines about HO's,
then it turns out he was in a 3 on 1 turn fight and the guy had a good forward quarter shot on him. Well he should be introduced to the woodshed out back.

True Ho's takes 2 to tango, good pilots do lead turns, barrel roll duck into an immelman, etc.

True Ho's are a craps shoot with loaded dice.

Smart pilots duck em & kill em from behind.

Nuff said eh?

[SlapShot]

Couldn't have said it any better Ghosth ...

[meddog]

Basically said, people complain about HO-ing not because it's a viable option that people utilize but because it's usually the first boring, mundain and skilless tactic most dweebs like to use and occassionaly they'll pull off a lucky shot.  And I'm pretty sure that in WWII, HO-ing was rarely used because unlike this game were you can just reup, a WWII pilot would not intentionaly place him self in a position that would place him at risk of getting shot down.  I have resorted to HO-ing but only in circumstances were I'm fairly well out numbered and I need to dispatch as many planes as possible to even the playing field while the enemy is engaged in a tag team jousting match on me.  Once I have even the odds I go back to ACM

[wrongwayric]

I agree there is a difference, lot's of good comments here. I do HO's if i have to, especially when i can not figure out how to beat the plane i am up against. I try to use whatever aspect of my plane that i think will kill the other guy. I do NOT ram a bomber to get the kill or intentionally ram another plane. If i do hit another plane when going HO i usually try to tune to him and say sorry, nice shot whatever. After 13 years in the Marine Corps the saying is just as true here as there "if your troops are *****ing they are happy, when they stop get worried".

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Ghosth
Technically

A dweeb is anyone who fly's flight sims.

Nope...suggest you brush up on your flight sim lingo history or read NB's post.



ack-ack

[jAZZer]

Naturally there is the wide spectum of different skills represented in the air. But if the better man starts mocking oponents who are less skilled or if he belives that he has the privellige to dictate how the less skilled oponent should fly - then he behaves like a manipulative controllfreak and a sadist. Why not set up the duells according to the gentlemens rules in the Duelling Arena. In MA you cant really expect anything but the laws of war. If youre so spoiled that you really expect to be able to dictate the oponents tactics in a war then you will lose. Why not go set up a ballet instead?

[TequilaChaser]

Originally posted by Cobra412  Learning how to do an HO or FQ attack is good to learn but don't use it as your primary tactic.  Even if it seems everytime you try to merge someone fires at you just learn the jinks to avoid it and then turn around and kill them with ACM.  Trust me the pilots who would rather merge and beat you with ACM will have more respect for you in the long run and your fights will be more enjoyable as time goes on.

Probably the best advice in this whole thread!

[Ghosth]

AckAck your talking sematics here with the dweeb thing.  

Anyway I take as my source Jedi's "Book of dweeb" was started LONG LONG ago in a galaxy far far away.

Granted there are levels of dweebdom.

[Fish323]

I spend alot of time getting on my opponent's 6. It takes talent, patience, and skill to get there, and it's always worth it when I  "own" them. A HO is just a lame attempt at getting a kill. Working a con is too much work, so they go in guns blazing not caring if they live through it. Real pilots didn't get to re-up.
  For that reason alone you cant compare the dweebish tactics of HOers in this game to the WWII pilots that took calculated risks with thier lives in head on passes.

[Xjazz]

HO is ok tactic. If you die during the HO, just take a look to the mirror before you start whining.

I try to avoid HO's as a default. Sometimes I use it as a last ace.

IMHO RL HO is 50/50 change. In online game it is what-ever change because of lag. You never know.

Im in F4F vs A6M2. Would I try HO? H*ll yes!

[Xjazz]

Originally posted by Fish323
I spend alot of time getting on my opponent's 6. It takes talent, patience, and skill to get there, and it's always worth it when I  "own" them. A HO is just a lame attempt at getting a kill. Working a con is too much work, so they go in guns blazing not caring if they live through it. Real pilots didn't get to re-up.
  For that reason alone you cant compare the dweebish tactics of HOers in this game to the WWII pilots that took calculated risks with thier lives in head on passes.

I find out this one prety interesting.

Fish323, what kind of plane you are normaly flying? What tactic your are use with your plane?

[digaling]

LA7 pilot = DWEEB

Spit pilot = DWEEB


nuff said.
BTW this is FulzGold for those who may remember me.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by digaling
LA7 pilot = DWEEB

Spit pilot = DWEEB


nuff said.
BTW this is FulzGold for those who may remember me.

WRONG !!!!

This about covers it !!!

A-20G Boston III pilot = DWEEB
A6M2 pilot = DWEEB
A6M5b pilot = DWEEB
Ar 234B pilot = DWEEB
B-17G pilot = DWEEB
B-26B pilot = DWEEB
B5N2 pilot = DWEEB
Bf 109E-4 pilot = DWEEB
Bf 109F-4 pilot = DWEEB
Bf 109G-10 pilot = DWEEB
Bf 109G-2 pilot = DWEEB
Bf 109G-6 pilot = DWEEB
Bf 110C-4b pilot = DWEEB
Bf 110G-2 pilot = DWEEB
C-47A pilot = DWEEB
C.202 pilot = DWEEB
C.205 pilot = DWEEB
D3A1 pilot = DWEEB
F4F-4 pilot = DWEEB
F4U-1 pilot = DWEEB
F4U-1C pilot = DWEEB
F4U-1D pilot = DWEEB
F4U-4 pilot = DWEEB
F6F-5 pilot = DWEEB
FM2 pilot = DWEEB
Fw 190A-5 pilot = DWEEB
Fw 190A-8 pilot = DWEEB
Fw 190D-9 pilot = DWEEB
Fw 190F-8 pilot = DWEEB
Hurricane Mk I pilot = DWEEB
Hurricane IIC pilot = DWEEB
Hurricane IID pilot = DWEEB
Il-2 Type 3 pilot = DWEEB
Ju 87D-3 pilot = DWEEB
Ju 88A-4 pilot = DWEEB
Ki-61-I-KAIc pilot = DWEEB
Ki-67 pilot = DWEEB
La-5FN pilot = DWEEB
La-7 pilot = DWEEB
Lancaster III pilot = DWEEB
Me 163 pilot = DWEEB
Me 262 pilot = DWEEB
Mosquito Mk VI pilot = DWEEB
N1K2-J pilot = DWEEB
P-38L pilot = DWEEB
P-40B pilot = DWEEB
P-40E pilot = DWEEB
P-47D-11 pilot = DWEEB
P-47D-25 pilot = DWEEB
P-47D-30 pilot = DWEEB
P-51B pilot = DWEEB
P-51D Mustang pilot = DWEEB
SBD-5 pilot = DWEEB
Seafire IIC pilot = DWEEB
Spitfire Mk IA pilot = DWEEB
Spitfire Mk IX pilot = DWEEB
Spitfire Mk XIV pilot = DWEEB
Spitfire V pilot = DWEEB
Ta 152H pilot = DWEEB
TBM-3 pilot = DWEEB
Tempest V pilot = DWEEB
Typhoon pilot = DWEEB
Yak-9T pilot = DWEEB
Yak-9U pilot = DWEEB

LVT(A)2 pilot = DWEEB
LVT(A)4 pilot = DWEEB
M-16 pilot = DWEEB
M-3 pilot = DWEEB
M-8 pilot = DWEEB
Ostwind pilot = DWEEB
Panzer IV Type H pilot = DWEEB
Tiger I pilot = DWEEB

Elco 80' PT Boat pilot = DWEEB

[MrSpanky]

I wouldn't mute channel 1 for anything.  I laugh hysterically at the whining that goes on.  It’s like listening to a SNL skit.  No, I won't say anything in return to all the insults that might be aimed at me, but I'll keep my channel 1 open and have a wonderful laugh.

Ham On!