Well, the game I loved is dead and gone.

[Wolfala]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Unused?  There's nothing more satisfying then smashing an La7 with a p40b...

Hell yes Lasor. My squad did a P40 CAP and jumped a set of B17's. It was the ultimate insult to Chanault but soooo worth it.

[lasersailor184]

Alt-F4 also turns on your landing lights.

[moot]

Sucks being good.
I can relate to getting bored having to invent impossible odds to feel like I'm actually making an effort to win the dogfight... maybe I oughta spend the few hours I have left for the game in good-old-days events like KOTH etc.  
Maybe there oughta be an arena separate for us demi-gods.

Naah, better to stick with the other dinosaurs and organize seal-clubbings on the unwashed masses


Lazs always talks about the 60-70s or whatever it was, the 1500s, when he was young and had everything us poor modern youngs will only dream of, but that's just how time works.  Adapt or die.

[moot]

and AH vs IL2 is apples to oranges, they're both fruits but the oranges are small, badly modeled, maybe genetically-engineered fluorescent color and insect-resistant, but not massively multiplayer like apples.

the only thing better in IL2 is the appearance, amounts of loadouts and exotic models.

[BlkKnit]

Oh, and dont forget about those of us who cant seem to put up a good enough fight to keep the superstars interterested.  Makes me feel bad when I cause the boredom of some goober I never heard of......

seriously though, its a tough game.  I usually am under (waaay under) 1 to 1 K/D, 10 kills hour or any other stat which makes you a man.  And I spend most of my days looking for a fight, hardly do the jabo, GV, bomber stuff anymore, though I have done a bit more this month.  I dont know why i have to always be the one who does something stupid in a dogfight.  Why cant the rest of you make a mistake once in a while...huh? huh?

And to Urchins point, finding a fun fight is getting harder to do and Ch 1 is full of diatribes and abuse.  Seems everytime I do manage to win a fight its because I warped / disappeared / made an impossible move (yeah right) and have then spend 10 minutes reading snide remarks on 1.  I know thats an exageration, but it feels that way sometimes.

In the end theres nothing to do about it, the hordes have control and those of us trying to avoid them may burn a full tank without firing a shot.  Go toward the small darbars and by the time i am up, the enemy is gone and are not coming back.....because the milk run failed and they want to try somewhere else.  i have spent whole afternoons chasing darbar this way.  Very frustrating.

[Steve]

And I spend most of my days looking for a fight

I don't care what your K/D is... what your K/Anything is.  If you take off and look for a fight as opposed to flying w/ some horde to bomb some building or other... you're a big dog.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Steve
Because I'd wax them easily... just like I would you. Anytime you wanna step up to the plate in the MA... speak up, I'll happily pummel your smart asss into the turf.
 Dunno why   you have spent at least three posts in here insulting me since I said nothing to you.

Dude, I was funn'n ya.
Sorry you took such offence
Though the pizza complaints are getting old. but not just from you but the rest as well. So I guess that link was really ment for all of ya

You and I have had a couple pretty decent fights.
No complaints bout the quality of your flying.
But the last time we met a few months ago the only thing you pummeled into the earth was yourself.
Still scratching my head over that one LOL

In any event I dont think most people hide from anyone let alone you or me.
I know I dont have any problem finding the fights.
Tell ya what. Last time I checked you were a knight. come fly with me and I'll take ya to where the fights are.
Cant offer much more of an olive branch then that.

[Karnak]

I too feel this way.  I haven't logged on to AH1 in awhile.  Last time was on Fester's new map.  Had the best time I'd had in a long time.

Time before that I ended up doing a rant on channel 1 much like it sounds like Urchin did.  I don't think our memories are that poor.  I really do think that there used to be more combat and less ganging.  Oh, ganging was always there, but it was less rampant and I was a Rook for all the time they were in the bucket.  It seems now that there are huge bars of green and huge bars of red, but in different sectors.  It also seems that one spends a lot of time either frantically trying to get the one enemy before your "friends" do, or desparately trying to survive.

SlapShot,

I used to give s, but now, and for the past two years, I squelch channel 1 first thing.  I know this hobby is more Conservative oriented and that I as a Liberal am an odd duck in it, but it was actively killing the fun to log in and have to watch some jerkwads use channel 1 as their personal soapbox and in such terms as to set my blood boiling.  Yes, I am too thin skinned, but the only solutions were to squelch channel 1 or give up my hobby.

AH vets.

[Steve]

Dred, I'm sorry. I overreacted and was out of line. I misunderstood where you were going in your posts... of course if you know anything about me it's that sometimes I miss the point entirely.  Still, I shouldn't have reacted as I did so again, I beg of you to accept my humble and sincere apology.
 Ya, weren't you in a 51 and I was in a 38?  Well I was in a 38 for a bit... then I was in bits... and pieces.

What I meant literally about some nights on the pizza map is that lots of people avoid fights and prefer to steamroll, not really avoid fights w/ me specifically.  When I don't have my hackles up and am not defending my fragile psyche(from real attacks or in your case, imagined) I don't consider myself talented enough to be considered someone to avoid.

I tend to go right at the best people if I know where they are.  Like the other night.... Nath 6 or 7, Steve 1.*

*He had E most times but outflew me regardless.  A couple of times I got on his 6, DMF wandered by and shredded me.  

[opus]

Watch it , Steve, you're becomming a class act

Er thats sounds a little condescending..- I mean I'm starting to see you're a class act - seriously.

[_Schadenfreude_]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Well they are for Steve. and he seems to think people are hiding from him so I figger he wont know the difference

hehehe at least a 9.8 in put downs out of a possible 10!!!

[Maniac]

HTC dont have a obligation to make AH fun for the "Vets". I really think that they couldnt care less about the "Vets".

As long as there are 500+ players online then in HTC´s eyes they are doing everything right...

Its all about making money and not designing an flight sim to a hardcore group that been playing 10+ years...

Its always been "vote with your credit card" type of deal. We wont see any changes untill the numbers in the arena drops drasticaly (sp?). And this wont happen, and you can thank the AW guys for this

Maybe its time for an mass emigration back to Warbirds? Whattya say folks?

EDIT : Heres two quotes from HT in this thread

I would sugest that it is you who changed more than the game urchin.  

Yes this is true. And it clearly shows that HTC are going with the current buiseness (sp?) plan, and have no desire to change the current setup.

And before you guys come here and scream "Tour of Duty" i say that its far far of from being here, i would expect that for atleast a year or so all AH2 will be is a graphics update... Tour of Duty wont see the light in the near future.

Nothing much new for you to learn or do. It's at this time the searching for why your not having fun sets in. And the game is blamed for not giving you the fun you used to have.

HT, This depends of what standpoint you have towards the game, like the "vets" here, they expect the game to evolve with them... But now its been a stagnated development for very long...

The "Vets" expect you to provide them with new and exciting things so they dont get that "old times" blues feeling...

[beet1e]

Urchin

I have always maintained that any game needs some semblance of rules or structure - the sort of deal that AH2/TOD is meant to offer. I have been crushed three times by what has happened in this game. [list=1]

• Finding out that the mission arena was not part of this latest (Dec 2002?) release.
• Finding that AH2 is about 6 months later than expected.
• Finding out that when it finally appears, AH2 will not include TOD.

Like you, I have been frustrated by seeing the same 4-5 planes all the time. An RPS would increase choices by making some of the other 65 planes viable.

But I have been shouted down if I ever come close to suggesting any changes along those lines. It seems that "those in the know" feel that the "sandbox" with players making all their own choices - no RPS, fly what you like -  is the route to gameplay utopia, so that's what we've got.

What you're now seeing is the result of that policy.

[Citabria]

Originally posted by hitech
I would sugest that it is you who changed more than the game urchin. Very simply you showing clasic burn out, your not having fun any more and searching for a resone why. And you come up with that it is the game that has changed from it's "Glory days".

You wish you could sit at your computer and get lost in the adventure of air combat. But now you sit down, the out side world is no longer totaly shut out,hours of playing no longer seem like ten minutes, little things frustrate you  like your plane getting killed by someone you have never heard of.

Funny thing I have been hearing this exact same thing with different games and  different resones since I started playing AW almost 15 years ago.

What in my view happens is that eventualy the challange ends with any game.Nothing much new for you to learn or do. It's at this time the searching for why your not having fun sets in. And the game is blamed for not giving you the fun you used to have.


HiTech

thats the truth in a nutshell, you cant change human nature, old and new is the maxim of human existence and change is at the heart of what humans are. they can not abide stagnation and must find a new obstacle, puzzle or passion which will be soon replaced with a new one when the current one gets old.

this applies to anything not just games. the mystery and unkown of somthing new and different is compelling and interesting.

Aces High is my favorite game and Ive played since beta, naturally burned out several times played less then found somthing new and interesting within the game that had been previously unexplored and rekindled my interest in it.


but finding furstration in some maps while fun in others lead me to a new puzzle or challenge, being burned out on current main arenas i enjoyed the challenge of making my own arena focussed on fast action. and therein somthing new and different twofold for myself, not only did i get the challenge of making the map as entertainment but the reward of seeign people enjoy it and flying on it myself made it very gratifying.


old and new

thats all its about and theres nothing you can do about it except change.

[Toad]

Funny, I don't feel like I've changed.

I still like the same thing I liked in AWDos, the thing that made me run up $250/mo bills on GEnie.

I like to fight other airplanes.

There is no doubt in my mind, however, that the availability of good fights against other airplanes has continually decreased.

The people? The maps? The "strat"?

WHATever. It's not the same and I didn't change.

I still love a good A2A fight beyond reason; it's why I'll never leave this genre.

I don't see myself as "burned out" or as "changed". I still like the same old thing. It's just really, really getting hard to find.

Ah.... but those times you DO find it. The more rare it gets, the sweeter the experience.