The USA

[Crumpp]

Gscholz just exhibit the classic signs of "small mans syndrome" or "noodle Envy "when it comes to his country.  Otherwise he would have popped in the thread, seen it was it a political discussion and left since he is not American.  

Only his hatred of America and our in his words "Criminal" State keep him posting.

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[Ripsnort]

Found some more Americans to argue with I see, eh Gsholtz?

[Simaril]

Originally posted by GScholz
So you agree that the US has done worse in the last 100 years than Europe except Germany and the Soviets. Thank you for your honesty ... even if it was a bit veiled.

Nice way to twist words while missing the point completely -- are you a lawyer, by chance?

Nothing the US has EVER done can possibly compare with the European wars of the last 100 years, and the multiple genocides european philosophies have directly created. It is dishonest for you to ignore the 100s of millions europeans have killed jsut so you can crticise the US.

And within the reach of their more limited powers, other european nations have misbehaved as well. France's actions in Africa and the far east were pretty stinky. (BTW, I for one would never criticise French courage and fighting prowess -- although thats a popular theme around here. The attitude just shows historical ignorance, IMO) Serbia and Croatia behaved in reprehensible ways, AFTER the soviet block disintegrated but couldnt spread their poison beyond their borders due to political and economic weakness. How would you judge them? I would assess by their intent and nature, not their reach -- so they outrank US too in sheer nastiness. Don't forget that US troops are in teh Balkans for no direct benefit to ourselves, at the cost of treasure and soldier's lives. Why do you ignore the benefits of US actions, and focus only on the percieved failings?

[storch]

Originally posted by Simaril
Nice way to twist words while missing the point completely -- are you a lawyer, by chance?

Nothing the US has EVER done can possibly compare with the European wars of the last 100 years, and the multiple genocides european philosophies have directly created. It is dishonest for you to ignore the 100s of millions europeans have killed jsut so you can crticise the US.

And within the reach of their more limited powers, other european nations have misbehaved as well. France's actions in Africa and the far east were pretty stinky. (BTW, I for one would never criticise French courage and fighting prowess -- although thats a popular theme around here. The attitude just shows historical ignorance, IMO) Serbia and Croatia behaved in reprehensible ways, AFTER the soviet block disintegrated but couldnt spread their poison beyond their borders due to political and economic weakness. How would you judge them? I would assess by their intent and nature, not their reach -- so they outrank US too in sheer nastiness. Don't forget that US troops are in teh Balkans for no direct benefit to ourselves, at the cost of treasure and soldier's lives. Why do you ignore the benefits of US actions, and focus only on the percieved failings?

He's hopeless.  leave him to his delusions, or not he's actually quite entertaining.  How much ignorance could there be condensed into 1500g.

[Simaril]

GS, talking about both sides of an issue is called balance. Being fair to both sides is called objectivity.


Thought the definitions might be useful, judging from your writings.


Reread what's been written by others above-- you'll see both balance and objectivity demonstrated in many US postings. How about the Norwegian ones?

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by GScholz
God knows there are enough Americans here that wants to argue, that's for sure.

Where have you been btw? Everything ok?

I'm sure its all "their" problem and none of it is yours.

I've been in Minnesota, Montana, and Eastern WA, family reunion (thats always fun, 1/2 the family is Swedish, the other half is German), fishing, hiking, and camping.

[Simaril]

Oh, and I just rrealized you did it again -- missed the point of the posting. (By choice? Hmmm.)

You claimed US actions worse than european ones, but now you're ignoring the rebuttal. Any comment?

[Krusher]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
Almost every conflict since 1945 is the result of European colonialism.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it.  

 

[Capt. Pork]

Originally posted by GScholz
Consider the fact that I stared in this thread by complimenting, even defending, America.

What we have here, is a failure to communi...er...scrambled eggs

[Crumpp]

he's actually quite entertaining.

You got it!! In the same way a Circus Clown entertains us. You just have to see what the next stupid antic is going to be.

Crumpp

[Crumpp]

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Originally posted by GScholz
Consider the fact that I stared in this thread by complimenting, even defending, America.
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What we have here, is a failure to communi...er...scrambled eggs

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No what we have is that moment just after you lifted the rock and the roach scurries for cover.  He runs a short distance and hides under twig but still in plain view.


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[Crumpp]

God Bless America!!


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[demaw1]

scholz re.lack of ethnic cleansing by france..
 1.As I said france and the herons were the reason the mohawks were wiped out....
 2. As important france sent an ontold number of jews to the concentraction camps and gas chambers...ok u forgot about the mohawks how did u for get about the jews.
 last 2 questions ...
 1. Do you believe norway system of goverment is superior to irans?
 2 You seem to feel so good about norways position visa vie european union you have a TREATY with them,are u so nieve u dont see norways problem?  Is norway really ever going to go against anything the eu wants...I promise you the day will come when norway will bow to the will of the un or be invaded by the eu. better get your air raid warning system up to snuff.Who you going to cry out to then maybe u will leave us out of it for once and appeal to canada,I am sure they wiil respond and send their armies to help...
 anyone from anywhere of any policitcal bent ,  do u think i am the nieve and stupid one or do u think my second question has merit ?
thks demaw.

[Crumpp]

No I think you are on the right track Demaw.

Do we really want the World at this point being run by majority rule?  

Do we want governments like Zimbabwe determining the direction more educated and democratic Societies take?

If you're not familiar with that situation:

Zimbabwe wanted to dismantle the large, rich farms in the country and redistribute the land to the poor.  They began passing legislation designed to run the white farmers out of the country and give the land to black farmers.  The white farmers and thousands of their workers were persecuted and many of the farmers were forced to flee the country.  Leaving behind thousands of workers with no income, housing, or means of protection.  The land was redistributed but mostly to Mugabe's political cronies.  Now they are relying on International aid to avert a humanitarian crisis because they cannot produce enough food.  In relatively short time frame they have gone from exporting food to their neighbors to having to rely on handouts.

3/4's of the member nations making up the UN voting members cannot handle their own internal affairs responsibly.  What makes anyone think they should be able to determine the direction the World takes?

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[Simaril]

Originally posted by Crumpp
3/4's of the member nations making up the UN voting members cannot handle their own internal affairs responsibly.  What makes anyone think they should be able to determine the direction the World takes?

Crumpp

Crumpp, that would be postwar US, UK, France, China, USSR -- Un's founding superpowers.....