Aces HIgh II: 1st Camp After Action Report

[Cobra412]

Overlag and I'm sure if some squads padded scores at factories and such they'd be in the top numbers too.  And if you think I haven't seen folks do it on Bish your crazy.  That nice JU-87 and it's big bomb does wonders at factories.

[Zazen13]

Justdoing my daily statistics housekeeping thought I'd post this information.

First Day Kill Totals Camp 55:

Bishop Kills:2,426
Bishop Deaths:3,516
Bishop's K/D:0.69:1 Kills per Death

Knight Kills:3,761
Knight Deaths:3,930
Knight's K/D:0.96:1 Kills per Death

Rook Kills:4,013
Rook Deaths:2,754
Rook's K/D:1.46:1 Kills per Death

Conclusion: Even though Bishops had wonderfull numbers all night due to many squadnights they performed abysmally as one would expect, well below their mean average K/D. Knights were outnumbered pretty severely by Rooks and Bishops but maintained their mean average K/D. Rooks outperformed their mean average K/D by 10%! in spite of dealing with major Monday night Bishop offensives.

Zazen

[Ratnick]

Someone needs to get laid - sheesh, I'm out of this one.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Zazen13
Actually you should check your own statistics. You may not realize it but you are in fact a great example.

Drediock's Last 5 Tours Cumulative Kill Totals:

Drediock vs. Bishops:

Drediock's Kills vs. Bishops:1,390
Bishop's Kills vs. Drediock:1,014
Drediock's K/D vs. Bishops:1.37:1 Kills per Death

Drediock vs Rooks:

Drediock's Kills vs. Rooks:1,566
Rook's Kills vs. Drediock:1,257
Drediock's K/D vs Rooks:1.25:1 Kills per Death

Conclusion: Your overall K/D is pretty low, so does not make for a glaring example, but for you the difference represents a 10% increase in your effectiveness when fighting Bishops. Interestingly, this is almost exactly the difference in country K/D between Knights and Bishops for the same period.

Thanks for helping prove my point! !

Zazen

Considering you havent a clue as to how or what type of missions I fly . or why you havent proven jack.
Those numbers reflect very little
But if you look at the overall number of kills I still kill more rooks then bish
My ratio means little considering that 99 times out of 100 Im flying into an area where I am outnumbered by at least 6-1 and more often then not more

[Steve]

Zazen, let's assume for a minute that your information indicates exactly what you feel it does.  Why post it then type  your conclusions that the other teams are somehow inferior? Why "rub it in" ?

For the sake of argument in this thread, let's assume your assertion about rooks being better overall than the other teams is correct.

What makes you feel the need to do this?  Look, I find stats of all kinds very interesting but it seems you want to rub  nits and bish noses in it.

It is much more satisfying to be recognized by others for your accomplishment(s) than to sing your own praises.

Win graciously.


footnote: now if I could only learn to lose graciously(consistently)....I'm trying!

[Hades55]

dont bother, just a kid

[thrila]

Does this prove rooks are better or play for score?   I could get into the top 10 pretty easily if i wished.  I have shotdown plenty of the top 10 pilots for tour 54.

However i play for fun, which for me is diversity.  I go buff hunting, escorting our own buffs, long range noe missions (not often enough tho), and defend heavily attacked bases.  All of this is detrimental to my score.

I'm sure the planes i fly don't help either.  My top 3 rides for tour 54 are the mossie, hurri I and the hurri 2d.

If getting into the top 50 is what someones plays for- good for them.  It's just not my cup of tea.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
It can be claimed till the end of the earth that the Rooks somehow have better pilots.

The best pilots the Rookies had left when the Army of Muppets left.  Now all the Rooks have is relying on their numbers in a horde.  like Redtop said, swarm a side when you out number them close to 3-1 and you're bound to rack up some numbers.


ack-ack

[Tilt]

It must be true

We have been judged, weighed in the balance and found wanting.

The great arbitor of all things (the KD ratio) shows how truely pathetic we are.

We are of the gutter, fit only to mingle with the slime, the waste products of our betters and those lower creatures that inhabit such places.

It is obviously because only we

fly in hordes,
suicide bomb,
fire HO,
run to ack,
pork fuel,
fly La7's,
cherry pick,
gang bang,
vulch,
run away,
alt dweebery,
etc etc

that cod has cursed us to inhabit the dark places never to see the light, never to smell the crisp clear air of our betters or enjoy the pride of respect from our fellows.

We are but he orcs of the MA, the babling horde that must ever fail in the light of good, and honour and chivalry. To "gibble" and "cacker" when our horde snuffs out the light of an honourable foe caught in our mire.


We are but scum..............

[Overlag]

Originally posted by Cobra412
Overlag and I'm sure if some squads padded scores at factories and such they'd be in the top numbers too.  And if you think I haven't seen folks do it on Bish your crazy.  That nice JU-87 and it's big bomb does wonders at factories.

factories are part of the war effort, and DO slow down resupply so they are valid targets

[Edbert]

Originally posted by Murdr
I was considering posting in Bishops defense, but I checked my own stats...  
3.22:1 aginst Rooks
6.16:1 aginst Bishops
.... never mind.

I checked mine just now too...

6.1875 versus Bish
5.1429 versus Knit

Not quite the drastic disparity you had but still a difference. So I went and looked a June's tour...

3.1724 versus Bish
6.3000 versus Knit

Now I'm with you on the part

[Dead Man Flying]

K/D ratio tells us nothing of skill.  At this level of measurement the only assertion we may reasonably make is that Rooks consistently achieve a higher K/D ratio than other teams.  We can posit why this might be all we want, but without more precise measurements we cannot claim that "skill" or anything else causes this.

Wishing it does not make it so.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Considering you havent a clue as to how or what type of missions I fly . or why you havent proven jack.
Those numbers reflect very little
But if you look at the overall number of kills I still kill more rooks then bish
My ratio means little considering that 99 times out of 100 Im flying into an area where I am outnumbered by at least 6-1 and more often then not more

You may fly more missions against Rooks than Bishops and therefore kill more Rooks. But, Rooks kill you at a 10% greater rate than Bishops. So, how many you kill you get is just a factor of who you choose to fight, nothing more...

Zazen

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Steve
Zazen, let's assume for a minute that your information indicates exactly what you feel it does.  Why post it then type  your conclusions that the other teams are somehow inferior? Why "rub it in" ?

For the sake of argument in this thread, let's assume your assertion about rooks being better overall than the other teams is correct.

What makes you feel the need to do this?  Look, I find stats of all kinds very interesting but it seems you want to rub  nits and bish noses in it.

It is much more satisfying to be recognized by others for your accomplishment(s) than to sing your own praises.

Win graciously.


footnote: now if I could only learn to lose graciously(consistently)....I'm trying!

The purpose of this thread is to show the numbers whiners, numbers have nothing to do with their performance, misfortunes, disgruntlement and general dissatisfaction with how their respective teams are performing. The performance of their team is a factor of something that transcends numbers. I have stated this in three different ways throughout this thread.

Zazen

[MaddogWx]

Zazen13 - It is well known that Rooks rule.  Don't confuse the lesser players with facts - lol