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« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2004, 12:36:50 PM »
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Actually, Silat, I believe you've got Zell mixed up with another Democrat, Senator "KKK" Byrd.

My favorite line from Zell's speach was, "John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security."

That was friggin priceless.

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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2004, 12:47:01 PM »
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Im glad he is on your side also. I thought that he was going to put on his Klan robes at any minute.
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You must be confuseing him with Sen. Robert Byrd D virgina, former KKK.
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Re: what does Zeller have to do with the KKK?
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2004, 01:19:46 PM »
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nothing - but nice smear...can't attack the message so attack the messenger


"Twenty years of votes can tell you much more about a man than twenty weeks of campaign rhetoric. Campaign talk tells people who you want them to think you are," he said. "How you vote tells people who you really are deep inside."


Talk about avoiding the facts. I gave you the links proving that the Bush Campaign is spreading lies about Kerry's voting record .
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Re: Re: Re: Zell Miller ROCKS!
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2004, 01:27:45 PM »
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You must be confuseing him with Sen. Robert Byrd D virgina, former KKK.


Isnt this the same Zell Miller who was chief
of staff for the unrepentant racist Lester Maddox?
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« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2004, 01:56:38 PM »
Lazs,

Why would I, as a Liberal, care if he switched parties?  It doesn't bother me a bit and it is his right to do so.  Self determination and all that.  If his voters like it, they can keep voting him in and if they don't they can vote him out.  From what I've read he likely has no worries there.

I feel the same about Jeffords.  I don't understand all the hoopla about switchers being either scum or heros depending on who is doing the talking.
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« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2004, 02:00:34 PM »
Did I miss the part where Senator Byrd delivered the keynote address for the Democratic National Convention?

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« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2004, 02:16:10 PM »
Heard he was going to until he found out he couldn't wear his Klan robes.




















Gee, this stuff is so easy. I see why so many resort to it.
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« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2004, 03:06:56 PM »
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....But Miller's post-speech cable performance was even more jaw-dropping, as he first badly fumbled questions from CNN anchors, then lost it with "Hardball's" Chris Matthews, repeatedly challenging the MSNBC host to a duel and telling him to "shut up."

On CNN, he came under respectful but close questioning from Wolf Blitzer, Judy Woodruff and Jeff Greenfield, who pressed the wayward Democrat about why he mocked Kerry for using the phrase "occupiers" when describing U.S. troops in Iraq (Miller prefers "liberators"), when President Bush has himself used the same phrase for the same U.S. troops. Miller clearly had no idea that was the case and passed on giving a response. He was also asked why just three years ago he had introduced Kerry in Georgia as an American hero who had worked hard for our nation's security (the speech is still up on Miller's Web site). Miller suggested he was new to the Senate at the time and basically didn't know what he was talking about.

And about those weapons system votes that Miller criticized Kerry for making over a decade ago -- wasn't it true that while as secretary of defense Dick Cheney raised similar doubts about those very same systems? Miller said he'd let Cheney answer that himself. Finally, Blitzer asked Miller why he looked so angry during his speech, and couldn't that hurt the cause he was pushing? Miller, who in fact looked like he was suffering from flashback Atlanta road rage at the podium periodically, said he was sorry if he came across as angry because he didn't mean to.

But that was just the warm-up. Next it was over to Chris Matthews' "Hardball" on MSNBC where Miller, perhaps still bruised by his wobbly CNN showing, just plain lost it. Actually, Miller appeared from Madison Square Garden, while "Hardball's" set was over in Herald Square. And when Miller was announced he was greeted with a chorus of "boos" by the crowd of local Democrats assembled behind the "Hardball" taping area. Things went downhill for Miller from there.

Matthews asked Miller to defend his speech, and particularly his allegations that John Kerry voted "against" various defense appropriations. (As both Matthews and Miller know, voting against a large appropriations bill doesn't necessarily mean that you disapprove of every part of the bill). Miller got progressively angrier as Matthews persisted in holding him to his statement, telling Matthews several times that he wished he was in the studio so he could "get up in your face."

As Miller steamed, Matthews asked him if he thought that he was helping the political discourse in the country, and then, whether he even thought he was helping the Republicans by what he was saying. At that point Miller's meltdown peaked. He started waving his arms around, demanding Matthews "shut up" and let him answer the question. Miller then lapsed into a dialogue with himself wondering, "I don't know why I even came on this program," before returning to Matthews and announcing he wished they lived in a previous era because he would have "challenged you to a duel."

Thursday morning, Miller may deny he was serious when he said all of that, but the semi-deranged expression on his face at that moment suggested he'd truly lost control. Matthews, slightly embarrassed by the whole thing, laughed off Miller's left-field explosion, and invited him back tonight in person for a "more civil discussion." More important, Matthews insisted the show would get great ratings because everybody would be waiting to see if Miller was going to "beat me up."
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« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2004, 03:10:06 PM »
Funny how the left-controlled mainstream media jumps on Miller saying that was an "angry" speech and it hurts the Republicans, but they never mention how angry MIchael Moore comes off as and tout him as a hero of the Democratic party.

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« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2004, 03:31:37 PM »
Micheal Moore?  What are you talking about?

The Hardball video is priceless, a full-on meltdown.

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« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2004, 03:51:19 PM »
Bush in an electoral landslide.  All you left wing(same as being so stupid as to be beyond saving) whackos better get used to the idea.  For at least four more years, the U.S. will remain a free nation.  Maybe in another 4 years you insane whackos can give our freedom to the U.N., but not this time around.
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« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2004, 04:00:40 PM »
Sort of like Gore's "He betrayed this country!" melt-down?

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Re: Re: what does Zeller have to do with the KKK?
« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2004, 04:59:56 PM »
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Talk about avoiding the facts. I gave you the links proving that the Bush Campaign is spreading lies about Kerry's voting record .
Hypocrite.  When Bush is being compaired to Hitler, and generally being subject to lies and half-truths about him, it just independent groups.  When independent groups go after Kerry its the Bush campaign.

By the way bringing the KKK into the discussion is a red herring and totally inappropriate.  As a matter of fact it is just a low life thing to do, and quite frankly shows who is a flake.  I dont care if the discussion was about comments made by a grand wizard of the kkk on a completely unrelated topic to kkk intrests.  It would not automatically invalidate the comments.  As far as Im concerned the first opposition responders calling him a hatefull bigot just show what an prettythang you people are.

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« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2004, 05:13:05 PM »
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....But Miller's post-speech cable performance was even more jaw-dropping, as he first badly fumbled questions from CNN anchors, then lost it with "Hardball's" Chris Matthews, repeatedly challenging the MSNBC host to a duel and telling him to "shut up."


Just shows what kind of liers are in the media and how disappointing it is that all you sheep out there believe if its in print or on the news that it must be true.

I watched it live as my first post indicated.  He did not "repeatedly challenging the MSNBC host to a duel ".  He said I wish this were the old days when you could challenge someone to a duel.  Talk about parsing words.  Matthews kept asking questions and then talking over top of Miller when he tried to answer.  He told him if he was going to ask him questions to shut up and let him answer.  

Who is the totally tubular liar here?  Making comments that hint that Matthews treatment of a sitting US Senator was disrespectful enough that in past US history Matthews actions could have led to a duel.  Is not the same as this guy painting the picture that this crazy old man was litterally challenging him to a duel.

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« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2004, 05:28:15 PM »