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Offline Urchin

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« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2004, 05:55:53 PM »
Don't like it much personally.. seems like I can only see dots about 2-3k yards past icon range.
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Offline SunKing

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« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2004, 07:02:47 PM »
I feel the same. He needs to test out different distances. 10 miles seems to short for the game, irl maybe.
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Offline peterg2

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Haze to 45,000 feet?
« Reply #62 on: December 17, 2004, 11:02:06 PM »
The haze would be good if it dissipated at a certain altitude.  Even the summer haze and smog disappears when you reach FL15 to 20. Usually, there's quite an obvious transition altitude where you can see where the haze stops. At FL40 you are over just about everything except ice cirrus. But, at 30,000 feet you can usually see clear to the horizon or about 100-150 miles. So, our 15 to 20k mountains should pop through the haze like islands. Aircraft that are 10 miles away look like they're just a few feet away, it's so clear up there.

Offline, I took a 163 almost ballistic to 45,000 feet. The haze never seems to go away. It really takes away a lot of the beauty of the scenery that the map makers painstakingly put together. What good is it to have beautifully rendered mountainous terrain, that you can't see.

I'd say, take out the haze until you get it right.
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Offline Flayed1

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« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2004, 11:07:05 PM »
I like it makes my bomber runs so much more enjoyable.
  I havent had so many of those pesky Lgay7's go... Look high formation of bombers... When I'm at 20k and there at 2k. They seem to be at my alt in well alot less time then seems possible. now if they are that low they can't see me quite so good. :D
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Offline moto61

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Fog or Haze
« Reply #64 on: December 17, 2004, 11:20:40 PM »
My frame rate went up quite a bit when the haze was introduced. This iis this first time anything has had a noticible improvement for FR for me.

I can live with it!
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Offline eilif

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« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2004, 01:25:13 AM »
i think its a massive improvement to the visual pleasure of flying.


looks far more real than unlimited vis for 40 miles


wtg HTC.

origionaly posted by mechanic



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Offline Jackal1

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« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2004, 02:42:18 AM »
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Originally posted by Flayed1
I like it makes my bomber runs so much more enjoyable.
  I havent had so many of those pesky Lgay7's go... Look high formation of bombers... When I'm at 20k and there at 2k. They seem to be at my alt in well alot less time then seems possible. now if they are that low they can't see me quite so good. :D


  If ya had trouble with Lalas in a bomber at 20K, the fog is not gonna change things for you one way or the other.
  Can we say Meat children?
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Offline KurtVW

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« Reply #67 on: December 18, 2004, 02:56:27 AM »
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Originally posted by Midnight
The "Haze" is worse than California smog. You can't see land over 5 miles. That's WAY too much haze.


Actually, as an authentic So. California pilot, I can tell you that other than a gusty Santa Ana day... California air is rarely better than this.

Except maybe in Palmdale.

Anyhow, I find it a pretty realistic haze... I just wish we had more clouds and I wish we had night back... oh, and wind.
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Offline KurtVW

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« Reply #68 on: December 18, 2004, 02:57:07 AM »
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Originally posted by Zanth
what air pollution looks like from sky  This is Los Angeles



Thats an unusually clear day Zanth.. Thats about 35 miles visability...
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Offline KurtVW

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« Reply #69 on: December 18, 2004, 02:58:55 AM »
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Originally posted by Zanth
what fog looks like from the sky



Yep, thats fog alright... Haze is completely different... Haze is more like what you see in the L.A. picture above...  Fog is dense... low clouds... Haze is... well... Hazy.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2004, 03:02:25 AM by KurtVW »
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Offline Janov

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« Reply #70 on: December 18, 2004, 05:51:02 AM »
I love the new haze. Its great for the framerates, its more realistic (10 miles visibility is quite normal for most theaters of operation of WW2), and its great from a gameplay point of view. I havent tried hunting vehicles with the new visibility, but I always hated the unrealistic "give-away-at-distance-black-dot" that was showing the presence of GVs at 10+miles, even if they were sitting motionless in the middle of a forest.

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Offline TexMurphy

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« Reply #71 on: December 18, 2004, 06:19:19 AM »
Only thing I do have against it is that 10k vis range is to short.

That is just 4k past icon range.

What I would like to see is the vis range of the haze beeing moved to say 15-16k.

Tex
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Offline airbumba

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« Reply #72 on: December 18, 2004, 07:48:31 AM »
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To add a constructive comment, it would be nice to break out of the fog at some given flight level (with the fog still present and obscuring the ground of course).


Hey Lerch, if that's what I think it is in your avatar, I don't think you'll be breakin outta the fog anytime soon bud.
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« Reply #73 on: December 18, 2004, 03:41:09 PM »
I like it...runnin steady 75 in all views instead of 54 to 65  over terrain and a big  map to boot
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Offline Wolfala

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« Reply #74 on: December 18, 2004, 04:49:25 PM »
Now all we need is when guys firewall it on takeoff them ending up on their backs. Oh yes - wake turbulence, maybe surface winds, mountain waves for those peskys rises.
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