Author Topic: USS Jimmy Carter (Read 1153 times)

Sandman · « **Reply #30 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:22:31 AM »

Which in itself is just odd... an ex-military man becomes president and bad for the military.

Toad · « **Reply #31 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:24:34 AM »

I think Carter, at heart, is basically a good person.

But, IMO, he wasn't ready for Prime Time in DC. They ate him alive. Running Georgia didn't properly prepare him for running the nation. Apparently, neither did anything else in his career as a military person or politician.

rshubert · « **Reply #32 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:31:30 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
You obviously don't know anything about Carter's Naval service. He was hand picked by Rickover. Not a small statement.

All nuke officers were hand picked by Rickover, and individually interviewed by him. At least, they were until the old gentleman's retirement.

Suave · « **Reply #33 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:32:23 AM »

Good for the military often means culling. The 1991 downsizing was one of the best things to happen to the US army. Speaking from the perspective of a grunt in a line unit, all of the 8up fat tulips were fired.

My generation were told horror stories from the senior NCO's of how ****edup the 70s and early 80s Army was. Full of nonprofessional ****ups who couldn't make it on the outside and had nowhere else to go.

When I was in, if you wanted out, pretty much all you had to do was knock on the commander's door. Unfortunately that started to change about 1997.

Suave · « **Reply #34 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:43:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
I think Carter, at heart, is basically a good person.

But, IMO, he wasn't ready for Prime Time in DC. They ate him alive. Running Georgia didn't properly prepare him for running the nation. Apparently, neither did anything else in his career as a military person or politician.

Yeah that's basically how I see it. Carter may well of been the most intelligent man to ever hold the presidential office. I'm talking raw intelligence. He also had the misfortune of coming from very good parents. He left a sterling naval career when he bacame the eldest male of his family. It's not that he wasn't ready for prime time, don't confuse honor with nievety as so many do. He just didn't compromise his values. It's a rather distastfull truth that american executive politicians in todays age are really corporate employees.

Look at what the man's doing since he left office, he could be profiteering like so many of his collegues, but he's imbued with that quality that seems so rare nowadays, that is, to do good, just because you can. He's what men who guys like you and I look up to when asked, would refer to as "a good guy".

Toad · « **Reply #35 on:** February 21, 2005, 12:22:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Suave
It's not that he wasn't ready for prime time, don't confuse honor with nievety as so many do. He just didn't compromise his values.

As you like.

However, the point is that when he got to DC he was unable to accomplish much.

He simply wasn't prepared. You can source this anyway you like, honor, naivete, principles, rube-come-to-the-big-city.... whatever.

He simply didn't get the job done on any front, the military being the one I was deeply concerned with at that time.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 21, 2005, 12:42:47 PM »

I don't think Carter is a bad person but I don't think politics is his strong point.

He's too much of a liberal to be able to handle tough circumstances.

Sandman · « **Reply #37 on:** February 21, 2005, 12:46:35 PM »

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He's too much of a liberal to be able to handle tough circumstances.

What a load of crap.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 21, 2005, 12:51:53 PM »

No more than the ones in here trying to say he was a GOOD President.

Kev367th · « **Reply #39 on:** February 21, 2005, 01:12:01 PM »

Maybe they can have a USS Lewinsky, then they can go down together

slimm50 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 21, 2005, 02:40:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
bout time this dinosaurs leave, who needs them? they just eat
your Tax.

"It was part of our strategy on how we were going to win World War III...."

hehe again a dinosaur speak

A tremndous deterrent to war, I'm thinking. Best to have it, and not use it, than to need it, and not have it. Part of the price of freedom.

NUKE · « **Reply #41 on:** February 21, 2005, 02:46:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Suave
Nixon was probably the worst, total and complete abuse of power for his own egotistic purposes. There are people who he would've liked to have seen dead who are working in the whitehouse today, most prominently Rumsfield.

Really?

Nixon was one of our better Presidents. Carter was a completely naive embicile, and still is today.

Today he goes around the world certifying bogus elections ( Palestine) and criticizing legitimate elections ( Iraq)

He's a fool on the world stage.

GreenCloud · « **Reply #42 on:** February 21, 2005, 03:00:09 PM »

So why is the Delta Force .so thankful for President Carter\?

Pongo · « **Reply #43 on:** February 21, 2005, 03:05:32 PM »

"Carter was a completely naive embicile, and still is today.

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midnight Target · « **Reply #44 on:** February 21, 2005, 03:17:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Mighty1
No more than the ones in here trying to say he was a GOOD President.

Who said he was a GOOD President?

You keep on thinkin Mighty... that's what your good at.