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Offline Nash

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« on: February 21, 2005, 07:38:57 PM »
It got brought up a coupla times today, but I don't think I've ever seen it discussed here other than the passing "Well, you're wrong... I voted Libertarian."

What does Libertarianism mean to you? Aint it like anarchy? What does an America under Libertarianism actually look like?

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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2005, 07:42:24 PM »
...Girl we gotta get out of here
We gotta find a solution
I'm a twentieth century man but I don't want to die here.

I was born in a welfare state
Ruled by bureaucracy
Controlled by civil servants
And people dressed in grey
Got no privacy, got no liberty
Cos the twentieth century people
Took it all away from me.

Don't wanna get myself shot down
By some trigger happy policeman,
Gotta keep a hold on my sanity
I'm a twentieth century man but I don't wanna die here.

My mama says she can't understand me
She can't see my motivation
Ain't got no security,
I'm a twentieth century man but I don't wanna be here.

This is the twentieth century
But too much aggravation
This is the edge of insanity
I'm a twentieth century man but I don't wanna be here.

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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2005, 07:43:46 PM »
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What does an America under Libertarianism actually look like?


Snowcrash :)

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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2005, 07:45:53 PM »
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Originally posted by Nash
What does Libertarianism mean to you? Aint it like anarchy? What does an America under Libertarianism actually look like?


It looks like the founding fathers intended.  Not a watered down socialist nanny state paying lip service to liberty.

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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2005, 07:48:22 PM »
Yeah but, see.... I have no idea what that actually means.

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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2005, 07:53:05 PM »
Ahem... Do the research!

;)
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2005, 07:57:35 PM »
Thanks Sand. :p

Now I know that:

The Libertarian Party is committed to America's heritage of freedom:

individual liberty and personal responsibility
a free-market economy of abundance and prosperity
a foreign policy of non-intervention, peace, and free trade.

Whatever that means....

Nah... I'm trying to get a picture of how this would play itself out... What a day in the life under Libertarianism looks like.

Not much different? A lot different? What happens?

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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2005, 08:05:02 PM »
It's simple really... in the Libertarian universe we can all smoke pot if we want to. ;)
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2005, 08:08:51 PM »
I've heard that one.... here actually - a couple a days ago from someone. And appearently, so it went, you can smoke pot while walking down the street naked.

This is the kind of thing that's really puzzling. You get these sorts of glimpses into it... but that's all.

Considering how many people here support or have indeed voted Libertarian (if they are to be believed), you'd think a bigger picture would emerge somewhere along the line. But nah...

Smoke pot naked.

Libertarians - throw me a fricken bone here.

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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2005, 08:09:00 PM »
to me its kinda like Republicrat-light.

Alot of what you dont agree with in your own party R OR D you'll agree with the libertarian stance.

For instance, the whole "moral majority" and "moral compas" that the right likes to use so often doesnt play well with me.  The fact that the right refuses to legalize or at least decriminalize certain drugs just dumbfounds me.  Read up on their stance on drugs and you might find it interesting

That's just one thing that I dont find I like about Libertarion.

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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2005, 08:09:27 PM »
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Thanks Sand. :p

Now I know that:

The Libertarian Party is committed to America's heritage of freedom:

individual liberty and personal responsibility
a free-market economy of abundance and prosperity
a foreign policy of non-intervention, peace, and free trade.

Whatever that means....

Nah... I'm trying to get a picture of how this would play itself out... What a day in the life under Libertarianism looks like.

Not much different? A lot different? What happens?


Then read the link SM posted.  If you take the time to actually read past the first page, they explain it in detail.

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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2005, 08:11:19 PM »
Republican Light or Armed Liberals... take your pick. :)
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2005, 08:12:01 PM »
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Republican Light or Armed Liberals... take your pick. :)


yup I'd have to say you pretty much nailed it  :aok

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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2005, 08:12:18 PM »
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Then read the link SM posted.  If you take the time to actually read past the first page, they explain it in detail.


Martlet means this part.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2005, 08:20:58 PM »
I dunno...

I mean yeah... okay.... stuff like "Law-abiding, responsible citizens do not and should not need to ask anyone's permission or approval to engage in a peaceful activity" is all well and good.

But like, whatever. What does that mean?

It's obviously kind of a revolutionary brand of politics... but... What does a day in the life of a citizen under a Libertarian government actually look like? What changes? What's different as it pertains to you. What do you do differently? What gets done to you differently?

This is the kind of thing I cannot get the sense of by simply reading policy grafs off of a Libertarian webpage. Some have taken the step of actually voting Libertarian, so I imagine that they've thought through these things carefuly. But why am I starting to get the feeling that that's not the case?