Author Topic: A monster is dead (Read 5893 times)

straffo · « **Reply #15 on:** June 11, 2001, 10:43:00 AM »

Cling Cling !

wrong 1969 !

btw I find that the use of the Guillotine is barbaric

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You want to be like the French??? DO YOu???

Well they don't give me the choice so I bring my arrogant attitude in every post

God send to France the people not smart enough to be Ahmurikans
NA! pffff

Ripsnort · « **Reply #16 on:** June 11, 2001, 10:43:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM:

Hmmm... i think that praying for someone to go to hell isn't what I would call a good christian sorta thing to do...

I wasn't praying for him to go to hell, that's a given, I was praying for an eternal painful hell, now thats unchristen..which shows you the emotion level that this monster left on alot of.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #17 on:** June 11, 2001, 10:46:00 AM »

1977 The last official use of the guillotine in France. On the 10th of September Hamida Djandoubi was executed.

Is this wrong then?
-SW

[ 06-11-2001: Message edited by: SWulfe ]

jihad · « **Reply #18 on:** June 11, 2001, 11:01:00 AM »

I'm sure theres a hot-tub in hell with Timmys name on it, enjoy the sauna you piece of toejam.

Boroda · « **Reply #19 on:** June 11, 2001, 11:03:00 AM »

SWulfe, death penalty isn't used in Europe any more. It's prohibited by the EC.

Russia "suspended" all executions last 5 or 7 years. I think that some Chechen murderers deserve slow and painfull death, but they still waste "our oxygen". IMNSHO a person who tortured 100+ people to death deserves the same attitude. But we want to look as europeans, and still waste time on "peace talks" with people who torture pregnant women...

mrfish · « **Reply #20 on:** June 11, 2001, 11:24:00 AM »

1 down - thousands to go. too bad you have to be timothy mcveigh to actually have the death penalty carried out. there are many lesser offenders tying up the courts indefinitley with useless appeals. too bad we cant keep his seat warm and move a few more through.

Animal · « **Reply #21 on:** June 11, 2001, 11:28:00 AM »

Barbaric.
What a stupid term.

I dont like to see anyone suffer. But people who think as he does, now know they can take 100+ lives and get killed with mercy with an inyection that puts you to sleep.

These people dont fear death.
At least make them fear pain

Dowding · « **Reply #22 on:** June 11, 2001, 11:57:00 AM »

In terms of the number of capital punishments, the US has some interesting bedfellows. Notably China, Saudi Arabia and Iran.

There hasn't been a capital punishment sentence carried out in Europe for over 20 years. But which continent has the higher murder and rape rates (captial crimes)?

So is it a deterrent? Hardly. A tool for the doling out of Justice? No - it HAS killed innocent people. An act based on a fallible system is equally fallible.

All that is left revenge/vengeance - hardly anything but barbaric.

NHFoxtro · « **Reply #23 on:** June 11, 2001, 12:19:00 PM »

I'm not for the death penalty, I think it is inhumane and against my beliefs. I would have given him 50 consecutive life sentences in Maximum Security prison. See I read in the paper that he would rather die then go to jail.I think that would have been the best punishment for him. In the short run the Government just gave him what he wanted by killing him.

mrfish · « **Reply #24 on:** June 11, 2001, 12:38:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Dowding:
So is it a deterrent?

answer: who cares. who says it has to be used as a deterrent? that in itself represents an outmoded paradigm and an assumption that some people support the death penalty because they think it will stop crime - and presumes the idea that reward and threat of punishment affect behavior. it may work in psychological tests on mice and 5yr olds but it has been our prison model for years and look...it is irrelevant in that context.

imo - the death penalty should be used to clear out the deadwood of people who can't exist peacefully and play nice with others. america's pathetic sentence lenghts just recirculate them into society eventually. i am not interested in correcting their behavior, rather removing them from the herd once and for all without supporting them for the rest of their life at the others expense.

those people give up their value to society and rights when they murder and maim people - we should have NO tolerance for them

-the left acts like there is a 'happy ending' solutiuon to these problems where at the end of the day everyone is reformed and feels betterand hugs and pays taxes - there isnt a feel good solution - you just have to call it tragic, flip the switch and the rest of us can get on with our lives without dragging the bad fruit along with us -

murderers are like old national geographics, they just sit around usless for years taking up space and acting only as archives of something that was. time to take a walk to the curb i say......

Nifty · « **Reply #25 on:** June 11, 2001, 12:39:00 PM »

If you could put him (and every other person up for capital punishment) in a cell (with a toilet) given nothing but bread and water for sustenance (sp?), then I'd be for an alternative to the death penalty. As it is, I don't see how spending life in prison, being able to watch TV, eat normal meals, and exercise is a punishment fit for someone who took away the right to live from 168 people.

Give me (better yet, the families of the victims) an acceptable alternative for someone like McVeigh, if you can.

As for saying it's a deterrent, it's not in most cases. I don't see it as such here. I see it as saving tax payers $30,000 to $40,000 a year for however long he would have remained alive in prison. Call me barbaric if you will, it won't bother me at all.

Boroda · « **Reply #26 on:** June 11, 2001, 12:44:00 PM »

Dowding, living in Russia with it's weird judicial system makes me happy that we don't have death penalty (de facto, not de jure). But I am sure that people like Shamil' Basayev, Salman Raduyev or Tractorist must be executed and buried with the rubbish.

Their crimes are evident.

But I also remember that 3 men were executed for the crimes of Chikatilo, serial killer with ~70 victims, before he was sentenced to death...

Sandman · « **Reply #27 on:** June 11, 2001, 12:45:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort:

I wasn't praying for him to go to hell, that's a given...

Actually, it's not a given. Read the scripture. There is nothing to indicate that he can't enter heaven.

Creamo · « **Reply #28 on:** June 11, 2001, 12:48:00 PM »

Being put to sleep just doesn't seem fitting to me. Going to a concentration camp in Siberia for life starving, freezing, and working till you were drug to the barracks would be a real squeak. Whatever, least I don't have to see that ugly turd anymore or hear about him giving advice to PETA and other crazy groups.

Actually, after reading that article, the only thing I thought would be rational, is stoning this stupid hag to death!

I'd be casting the 1st stone alright...

An anti-death penalty protester waits in a reserved area near the U.S. Federal Penitentiary late Sunday night at Terre Haute, Indiana.

Eagler · « **Reply #29 on:** June 11, 2001, 01:48:00 PM »

good riddens

Eagler