Turning The Tables George Galloway

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Nash
Then you go right back to screwing it up.

Nuke - hows about every time you want to reference what Momus said, you use his exact words and not some distorted facsimile?

Now it is entirely your right to fly in the face of reality and in the face of sixty years of your own political history during which time successive US governments have made control of the resources of the persian gulf their number one strategic priority.

What part did I not get correctly? He said that for 60 years, the number one priority of the US was to control persian gulf resources.

[Nash]

Nuke, I'm sorry to have to break it to ya, but I think you suffer from some form of mental dyslexia. I really do.

[Hangtime]

Nuke, I'm a patriot.. but I'm not stupid... your contention is simply absurd.

It's about the oil & resources, it always was.

GWB just made it personal, that's all. As for Saddam having WMD; hell; George Herbert had the reciept.. he sold most of it to him and Saddam gleefuly used it on the Kurds, then sold the rest to Syria.

Now relax, get comfortable with the 'ugly american' concept. It's who we are, and folks the world over don't have to like us... fearing us is kewl enuff.

And, you can cheer up.. once the chinese get done buying out our economy and up the campaigin contributions we'll have the cheapest chinese food and best landscaped lawns anywhere on the planet.

God Bless America. (cause nobody else gives a sloppy phart)

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Nash
Hey Nuke & Grun, if you disagree with Momus, can you enlighten us as to what YOU think the strategic priority has been as it pertains to the Persian Gulf?

Nash, thats pretty damn pasthetic. Not sharp at all.

Momus said that oil was the main goal for us foregin policy for lat 60 years. That is an unqualifed stament, meaning for all global US foreign policy and not just in the gulf.

You trying now to spin it into just a question about the gulf is pathetic...

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Nash
Nuke, I'm sorry to have to break it to ya, but I think you suffer from some form of mental dyslexia. I really do.

You think that the number one priority of the US for the last 60 years has been to control persian gulf resources?

Why not back that up? You cant.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Nash
Nuke, I'm sorry to have to break it to ya, but I think you suffer from some form of mental dyslexia. I really do.

I think you suffer from lack of logic and intelligence.

[Nash]

LOL.

"Momus said that oil was the main goal for us foregin policy for lat 60 years" - Grun.

He did, eh?

I will not respond further to any reference to Momus' words unless you quote them directly and use his exact words in place of your own mutations of them.

This is going from retarded to I don't even know what.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Again, there is no issue here.  Momus has used both "goal" and "prioity" interchangably in this thread to describe his idea.  So there is no issue.

Nuke was the first person to use the term "goal" in a totally different context than Momus was using ""strategic priority".

"Why don't you give ONE example of the US controling any middle east oil? You should have many examples, as you claim that is the number one US goal for 60 years."

"Why don't you give some examples that back up your crazy ideas that the US's main goal for the last 60 years was to control middle east oil? Can you name one time in US history that we have ever controled any middle east oil? "


Mispresenting Momus's arguement, and thus commiting a strawman fallacy.

1. Person A has position X.
2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
3. Person B attacks position Y.
4. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.


Momus's use of "strategic priorty" was in the context of meeting the goal of defeating the USSR, not in the context that it was the number one goal in and of itself.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Nuke was the first person to use the term "goal" in a totally different context than Momus was using ""strategic priority".

Yeah, the number one priority is way different than the number one goal.

No wonder why you never enter a debate Thrawn, you are not mentally equiped.

[Nash]

I'm half expecting Ashton Kusher to step into the room.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Nash
LOL.

"Momus said that oil was the main goal for us foregin policy for lat 60 years" - Grun.

He did, eh?

I will not respond further to any reference to Momus' words unless you quote them directly and use his exact words in place of your own mutations of them.

This is going from retarded to I don't even know what.

Are you that ignorant Nash? He said that the number one priority of the US for the past 60 years was to control persian gulf resources. I have quoted it at least 3 times. What part do you not understand?

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by NUKE
Yeah, the number one priority is way different than the number one goal.

Only when you twist the context like you did.

No wonder why you never enter a debate Thrawn, you are not mentally equiped.

I enter into debate all the time...ya know like I just did.  So why are you lying about it?

[GRUNHERZ]

Hmm, yiou guys might be right, It seems i got nuke's and momus post mixed up, or was it nukes reststes of momus posts and nash bickering with nuke.

Anyway lets catch me up with ome direct answers from momus.

1) Do yiu think defeating commuimism was more important (goal, priority, etc)  than gulf oil for US foreign policy post ww2?

2) Excepting israel, Do you think that the main  reason the USA cares about the mid east is because of oil?

[NUKE]

The number one priority of the Phoenix Suns is to win the NBA cahmpionship, but their number one goal is to lose.

[Nash]

Originally posted by NUKE
"Are you that ignorant Nash? He said that the number one priority...."

NO HE FRICKEN DID NOT.