Originally posted by Skilless You keep bringing up this "4.6-mpg" as if we all drive monster SUVs. We don't. The vast majority of responsible Americans on a budget commute in fuel-efficient vehicles. The difference is DISTANCE TO DESTINATION. You will never get it and I don't think you want to get it. What your problem is, is what we call here "small man's syndrome"
Originally posted by Skilless You keep bringing up this "4.6-mpg" as if we all drive monster SUVs. We don't. The vast majority of responsible Americans on a budget commute in fuel-efficient vehicles. The difference is DISTANCE TO DESTINATION. You will never get it and I don't think you want to get it. What your problem is, is what we call here "small man's syndrome"You keep pointing across the pond at us saying, "It's all Amerikka's fault" and "it's all Booshes fault", but meanwhile you're taking a frivolous weekend excursion on a pleasure boat. You're no better than the screaming tree-huggers out on the left coast crying about pollution and fuel consumption while REFUSING to invest in a viable mass transit system for themselves. With you as well as them it's faily clear that this issue is not imporant enough for YOU to take ALL the necessary steps to meet the end in your goal; Everyone else must sacrifice for the greater good (but my boat trip isn't producing THAT much green house gas).What the course of this thread has shown is that you are very upset (rightfully so) that your government has taxed you into submission. Misery loves company eh? I’m on to you.
Originally posted by beet1e Distance to destination - average vehicle mileage in the US = 12,000 miles, UK = 10,000 miles. I was surprised at how little difference there was. I accept that few people drive 4.6mpg SUVs, but the fact that they exist (with a 6.8 litre V10 engine) and are affordable to many instead of being exclusive (like Bentley or Aston Martin) is an indicator of complacency towards fuel conservation.My frivolous boat trip is a week long deal. There will be 6 of us, and we won't need to refuel in that week.
Originally posted by Skilless First of all you basically say that a vehicle that gets 4.6-mpg should be illegal
then you justify your holiday
dyed in the wool socialist
Originally posted by beet1e Four of the people on that holiday are drivers. Our normal weekly schedule will be interrupted. We won't be doing any driving that week and therefore the trip will save quite a bit of fuel.
Originally posted by Skilless Ah, but you're wrong. Those people drive to a job where they produce something.
Originally posted by beet1e No they don't. Two of us are retired, and the other two are students.
Originally posted by Holden McGroin So then none of you produce anything? You are all just drains on the economy? You just breathe in valuable oxygen and expell CO2 with no value given to the greater good of the world?
Originally posted by beet1e No, we pay taxes, and we have spending power which stimulates the economy. Our boat trip will also stimulate the economy, by providing income to the people running the boat basin, the people who own and maintain the boats, the people who maintain the waterways, and the shops/pubs/restaurants along the route that we shall use.
Originally posted by Skilless I think you've just discovered capitalism!
(You are, by the way, one of the biggest hypocrites I have yet to run across)
Originally posted by Holden McGroin So then none of you produce anything? You are all just drains on the economy? You just breathe in valuable oxygen and expell CO2 with no value given to the greater good of the world?You know what an organism that exists on the back of a host with no advantage to the host is called, don't you? Seems I am superior to you after all even with the ecological deveastation of my bicycle tires.
