Author Topic: Abuse in Iraq (again) (Read 1597 times)

Banzzai · « **Reply #45 on:** February 13, 2006, 02:54:38 PM »

well the footage leading up to it are out

first the compound got mortared,
then 60 to 80 iraqi's started to throw stones at anyone wearing a uniform.

personally i think they got off quite litely
i would have kicked 7 colour's of ***** out of them

cpxxx · « **Reply #46 on:** February 13, 2006, 03:25:52 PM »

The only reason we know anything about it is because the nutter who took the video decided to show it off to others and somebody saw a chance to make money selling it to a tabloid.

First off, what they did was wrong and by whatever rules that apply it should not have happened. But this kind of thing goes on all the time in every conflict. When the troubles were at their height in Northern Ireland the British army frequently beat people up to vent their frustrations. This is not mere propaganda. I spoke to someone it happened to. He was quite philosophical about it. He had been throwing stones at the Brit soldiers and they caught him and dished out rough justice. He was just glad they weren't paras

He learned his lesson though............run away faster next time

So it goes on. This is nothing new. I wasn't even shocked, call me callous if you like. To be honest I might even have joined in myself. I was given riot training. Even though the 'rioters's were fellow soldiers, some got quite rough treatment. When we practised with another unit....well let's just say it got too realistic:O

It all looks bad on TV though will all the smug, secure citizens sitting in their armchairs tut tutting loudly. That's easy to do. Out in the real world life is tough and those kids found out the hard way that the Brits are not the pushover they were lead to believe.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #47 on:** February 13, 2006, 03:28:56 PM »

"Allegations of mistreatment have been leveled at British troops before, but not on the scale of the abuse carried out by Americans against prisoners at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib jail in a scandal that shocked the world in 2004."

weaselsan · « **Reply #48 on:** February 13, 2006, 03:47:31 PM »

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Mmm the delicious irony of it. The Iraqis are the home team, silly.

Here Dead, pass this along China.com...D-E-M-O-C-R-A-C-Y. You'll wish all you got was a good bellybutton whoopin as you hear the door slam behind you.

weaselsan · « **Reply #49 on:** February 13, 2006, 03:51:06 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
"Allegations of mistreatment have been leveled at British troops before, but not on the scale of the abuse carried out by Americans against prisoners at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib jail in a scandal that shocked the world in 2004."

I was shocked...just shocked I tell ya. They made one guy put a pair of ladies bloomers on his head. Oh the humanities!!!!!!

Gh0stFT · « **Reply #50 on:** February 13, 2006, 04:17:25 PM »

-dead-
i couldnt agree more what you said, u hit the nail on the head:aok

Pooh21 · « **Reply #51 on:** February 13, 2006, 04:36:24 PM »

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-dead-
i couldnt agree more what you said, u hit the nail on the head:aok

actually hit his thumb more like it

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #52 on:** February 13, 2006, 05:33:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Pooh21
if you are not rooting for the home team, you should get out of the stadium

Ahh...why am I not surprised to see such an idiotic response such as this?

ack-ack

Masherbrum · « **Reply #53 on:** February 13, 2006, 05:39:16 PM »

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looked pretty mild to me the stick whacks were half hearted, my mother swang way harder than that lol..send her over their with a wooden spoon and u will see some abuse! i saw one kick that looked like it had some real force behind it, maybe that guy got hit with a rock. who knows

British soldiers should have used this instead.

Karaya

Dago · « **Reply #54 on:** February 13, 2006, 07:04:08 PM »

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Personally I'd say if you can't take a few rocks being thrown at you

Spoken like a self-rigtheous fool who has never had a two pound stone bounced off his body from the throw of a teenager. I doubt you would be so self-sanctimonious if you took the hit. It not only hurts, it can cause serious injury.

john9001 · « **Reply #55 on:** February 13, 2006, 07:46:55 PM »

the title of the thread is"Abuse in Iraq (again) ", but it's about some rock throwers getting beat up.

but it says nothing about atrocities committed by the terrorists, cutting off heads, blowing up innocent women,children, killing iraq cops, blowing up oil pipe lines, destroying electrical plants, the list is too long.

but some of you people get your panties all bunched up because some rock throwing criminals get beat up.

you need to flush out your brains and get a refill of reality.

saddam was committing atrocities for 35 years before the imperial storm troopers of the bush/Cheney/halaburtion cartel invaded peaceful Iraq to steal all their oil.

Harry · « **Reply #56 on:** February 14, 2006, 05:22:25 AM »

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Originally posted by Pooh21
if you are not rooting for the home team, you should get out of the stadium

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Originally posted by -dead-
Mmm the delicious irony of it. The Iraqis are the home team, silly.

WOW! PAWNAGE!

Harry · « **Reply #57 on:** February 14, 2006, 05:40:44 AM »

If the UK soldiers had beaten the protestors to break up the crowd and chase them away I could have accepted it as an act of self-defense. If the soldiers had shot a couple of protesters I could have accepted it as an act of self-defense.

Beating a defenseless handcuffed detainee is wrong no matter how you cut it.

And even if you are so backward that you condone corporal punishment (you guys should love Iran), then in any case it is not a soldier's job to hand out punishment, but the judicial system.

Wolfala · « **Reply #58 on:** February 14, 2006, 05:53:25 AM »

I have an exercise for those who might entertain the notion that the Brits overreacted.

Stand outside yr local high school - and get a group of 10 freshman to throw bricks at you - when you are up armored and not doing anything.

How long do you wait until 1 hits you? And what is the MEASURED response?

They got off easy.

Wolf

Harry · « **Reply #59 on:** February 14, 2006, 06:12:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Wolfala
I have an exercise for those who might entertain the notion that the Brits overreacted.

Stand outside yr local high school - and get a group of 10 freshman to throw bricks at you - when you are up armored and not doing anything.

How long do you wait until 1 hits you? And what is the MEASURED response?

I'm not going to subdue one of them, handcuff him and then proceed to beat him with a stick if that's what you're asking. The Brits didn't "overreact". They exceeded their orders and violated both UK and international Law.

If you want an example of "measured response", check out the siege on the Norwegian base in Afghanistan a week ago.