Loose Cannons - and the future of Aces High

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Masherbrum


5th.  Zazen, we've had a fun ride in the MA these last 4 years and I am sorry to see you left, personally, I don't blame you.  

The whole thing makes me sick.

Rooks have always been about fun and good fights until lately, overwhelming numbers for awhile attracted alot of 'fair weather flyers', those that came in search of the easiest path. Nothing flushes them out like a thorough and consistant beating. Maybe after a few months of the toolshedders getting their arses handed to them they'll seek greener pastures elsewhere and we can return to Rookland, only time will tell...

Zazen

[Brenjen]

Originally posted by killnu
you think the furball type are porking the troops?  think ive hit barracks once on accident.  field porkers are the war winning type too, tryin to prevent thier bases from being taken.

 That statement is basically true, I have run pork - auger - pork - auger on barracks across a front because the knights were getting kicked around like dogs & we needed a breather, some of the more experienced knights who are decent acm guys were yelling for someone to drop barracks here or there & since my score can't get any worse I did it. I have done it more than once. ( it only slowed the advance ) I did it for the good of the guys who were getting frustrated by watching base after base fall while doing their level best to have fun doing what they like to do.

  I found it doesn't really matter what you do in this game, your gonna get called a "dweeb" or a "tard" this or that & piss off someone, so why care? Give your allies what they are asking for & ignore the rest, heck your even gonna piss off some of the guys your trying to help because "your a spitard pork n' auger dweeb & you have no l33t skilz" Whoopity-dooo. I think some of the folks that play this game would see a decline in their score if they stopped name calling & were civil to each other, some guys won't give you a no matter how gracious you are in defeat & talk trash at you win you beat them.....infantile.

                   So hate me all you want  'cause I love you guys!!

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Hoarach
What Karaya said.  You see how many of us just not dislike but hate your style of gameplay.  If you want it to stop its simple just change the style.  Thats why so many people and squads left rooks because they are fed up.  Rooks used to be a furballing country and where many furballers went.  Now with the birth of LCA rooks have changed to horde and base taking which is why many went knights.  Knights seem to have the attitude that many furballers want.  Fights are plentiful, perk planes very cheap, and very rarely are FHs porked.

All those that left hate the porking fields and leaving them, furballs being hunted and killed, and all the hording and base taking.  If you want some of us to stop hunting you change your style of gameplay.

I must say, Knights remind me ALOT of how Rooks used to be, in the Golden Era. Being outnumbered rocks, having a team that doesn't drop FHs anytime a decent fight starts to materialize rocks, not having orders barked at you from toolshedders over range rocks...If Rooks don't grow a clue fast they're going to find themselves on the receiving end of a 6 month bare bottom spanking as the exodus of quality sticks continues...Rooks who don't do any of those things I mentioned, be sure to thank LCA everytime you get popped by a former Rook fighter jock...

Zazen

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Oldman731
Possibly part of the problem originated with the proclamation that the LCA was the new wave of AH (or whatever the phrase was).  But you're right.  It is unfair, and unwise, to try to expel any group of players.

- oldman (except possibly vulchers)

Hmmm ya think?!??!? We're not trying to expel anyone, we're trying to encourage less anti-social/anti-fun behavior. They have 2 choices, neither of which involve being expelled:

1) Continue to do as they are doing and end up hated and despised by anyone and everyone who enjoys good fights and doesn't really care about 'winning the war' including other Rooks.

2) Modify their behavior to not rationalize the ending of good fights thru the deliberate and pre-meditated dropping of FHs virtually everytime a decent fight begins to materialize and especially stop quarter-backing the capture of FT fields..

It's really not complicated, it's fairly easy to see the solution, and it's not 'unfair' to anyone. If you want to talk about expelled or 'unfair' talk about how fun loving furballers feel when you toolshedders destroy FT or drop FHs/CVs everytime a decent fight materializes, that is de facto expelling furballers from their game..
 

Zazen

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
But ... again ... there's a double standard ... you hate having your FH blown up, but what about the Tiffy pork dweebs who kill troops/ord at 2 or 3 bases per flight, ruining the game for the guys who enjoy the war? The Furball side of the coin doesn't seem to acknowledge that as part of the same problem.

I can assure you it isn't furballers porking your troops. We could care less about 'winning the war' . The ones killing your troops are your alter-ego toolshedders on the other teams, your brothers.

Zazen

[96Delta]

Originally posted by killnu
seen one sneak that they left FHs up.

Thats our preference.

[SlapShot]

But ... again ... there's a double standard ... you hate having your FH blown up, but what about the Tiffy pork dweebs who kill troops/ord at 2 or 3 bases per flight, ruining the game for the guys who enjoy the war? The Furball side of the coin doesn't seem to acknowledge that as part of the same problem.

Wrong ... I have spoken out in many threads against these griefers. It was this ilk that was part of the impetus to stop fuel porking ... hence, fuel cannot be dropped to less than %75.

Now they drop troops/ord ... truthfully, those 2 aspects of the game aren't on the radar of a furballer, so when I jump to a tower I just look to see if fighters are available ... its not that I don't care ... it's just not something that is part of my checklist when playing the game.

[eh]

FWIW I could care less about the state of the map or the "war"; or the toolshedders, the furballers and all of the moaning  and complaining I see on these boards. I and my wingy of 6 years, kavik, are having the best times of our virtual lives in AH now. Somehow, after a few years of taking it much too seriously, we are back to just having fun. Actually I was the one who took it too seriously, kavik never did. I should have listened to him long ago.

It's a romp, this cartoon world of ours, and there is more than one way to have a lot of immersive and escapist fun in Aces High even if you never fly heavy buffs, or gvs, or gun a task force. When you add all of those into the mix, the game is astounding.

This is just one opinion from a mediocre stick who hardly ever speaks up. That is all.

Carry on moaning.

[Pei]

Is this thread still going? Less whinging and more flying!

[Urchin]

You know, for the longest time I thought you guys just couldnt spell for ....

"whinging" lol.  

That just looks wierd.

[DoKGonZo]

I completely agree that a campaign of porking hangars for the simple reason of disrupting an ongoing furball, that is with no attempt at capture, is idiotic. If it is in concert with killing the town and bringing troops or laying the groundwork for same, then, that's war.

Zazen, no amount of tricky back-peddling will change the xenophobic things you posted. I found it offensive in the extreme and don't forget, forgive, or turn my back on  people who traffic in such thinking.

Now I just need to figure a suitable revenge for the way you all have falsely accused me - time and time again - of porking your furballs.

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by SlapShot
...

Now they drop troops/ord ... truthfully, those 2 aspects of the game aren't on the radar of a furballer, so when I jump to a tower I just look to see if fighters are available ... its not that I don't care ... it's just not something that is part of my checklist when playing the game.

That was my point, SlapShot. To fix the problem means both sides need to take a look at stuff which really isn't on their check-list. If all the major powers were able to agree not to use chemical weapons after WW1, there's at least a glimmer of hope for this bunch being able to reach some agreement on porking, griefing, etc.

[killnu]

Thats our preference

if that your preference, Ive only seen you do it once.   every other time Ive seen you guys, multiple times per day, all hangars are dropped, multiple times typically.   if you guys prefer that, why not try to do it more often?

[Phalen]

Things change.... you adapt... life goes on.  

Sounds like a bunch of toddlers screaming "NO! Mine! Mine!"

People pay good money to play this game any way they want.  If you think they should abide by some set of preconcieved/unoffical rules set forth by a bunch of furballers (or toolshedders to make this fair) you are all sadly mistaken.  You guys are making this a pseudo-political debate, which has no place in AH.  Get over it, just fly and make the best of it.

My two cents worth.

::steps down off soap box::

[NoBaddy]

Originally posted by Phalen
Things change.... you adapt... life goes on.  

Change? What change? This has been going on for years.