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Offline Yeager

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« on: June 25, 2006, 02:57:01 PM »
Back in the old days USSR....err....Russia, would seek out and get viscious retribution against evildoers when its government officials were taken hostage and murdered.  Well, its happened again in Iraq.   I just wonder if Russia will go after those responsible with the zeal and lust of its former glory days.  I hope they do.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/25/iraq.main/index.html

Actually seems pretty stupid for the islamofacists to put Russia and US on same page.  But then again, we arent dealing with folks that have much going on in the critical thinking dept.
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2006, 03:07:09 PM »
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Actually seems pretty stupid for the islamofacists to put Russia and US on same page.


Chechnya.

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2006, 03:08:14 PM »
I don't think Russia has enough intelligence in that country at this moment to properly retaliate.

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2006, 03:13:53 PM »
Chechnya.
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Correct, I meant in Iraq.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2006, 03:26:29 PM »
Russia has been at war with 'islamic terror' longer then the US. In fact many were complaining about the tactics employed by Russia in pursuit of victory in Chechnya. One of those voices complaining was the US government.

With Russian school children being blown up in thier schools, theater goers being taken hostage in Moscow, car / truck bombs and air hijackings I don't think that 4 dead diplomats in Iraq will force Russia to come to some different conclusion / repsonse to the situation. These 4 weren't the first Russians to die in Iraq anyway...

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2006, 04:27:59 PM »
Iraq does not have borders to the Russkies.
The others border them and/or were former USSR.

Whether it makes a difference or not don't know.:noid
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2006, 07:03:24 PM »
Many people here think that Zarqawists are sponsored by the US and are a tool in American hands... I first heard this opinion from a Russian Federation Moslim leader, he mentioned their previous actions against Arabic and Moslim countries... But at the same time the guy said that a demand to "release all Moslim brothers from Russian prisons" is quite reasonable because Moslims are opressed here. :rolleyes:

Anyway I'd like to see our Alfa finding the bastards and killing them with bayonets, like pigs. I also wish US sending some special forces to Chechnya to cleanse known Al-Quaeda links. At least in ths case both sides will probably refrain from idiotic accusations and do the job.

BTW, in Soviet times USSR seldomly did anything about Soviet citizens held for ransom or killed in third-world countries. Even Soviet scienticts "disappeared" in the US were out of attention. :(

Angus, USSR never had borders with Iraq. Only with Turkey and Iran. During WWII Soviet and British troops occupied Iran, but I think that then Iraqi border was in British zone.

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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2006, 09:22:50 PM »
IIP :o

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2006, 08:37:47 AM »
wait a minute... is he saying that the US kidnapped soviet citizens?  We made the work for us?

No wonder they had to have guards on citizens who visited here otherwise we would drag them off and take them away from the workers paradise.

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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2006, 10:12:05 AM »
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Anyway I'd like to see our Alfa finding the bastards and killing them with bayonets, like pigs. I also wish US sending some special forces to Chechnya to cleanse known Al-Quaeda links. At least in ths case both sides will probably refrain from idiotic accusations and do the job.
 


I agree. It's time for a new elite unit, made up of US and Russian special forces. You could call them... hmm... Rainbow!

Seriously, Clancy's idea was ahead of its time. What better way to insure cooperation?

In the 1980's, Time magazine ran a report about how the Spetsnaz used to round up insurgents in Afghanistan. They would throw them down the wells of the towns. They would then douse them with some Willy Peter. It had the double effect of killing the insurgents horribly AND ruining the town's water supply to let the village know that's what happens when you harbor them.

We need some of that creative thinking now.

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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2006, 10:19:15 AM »
we have too many hand wringers with access to tv cameras over here to ever do the job properly ...
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2006, 10:26:28 AM »
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wait a minute... is he saying that the US kidnapped soviet citizens?  We made the work for us?

No wonder they had to have guards on citizens who visited here otherwise we would drag them off and take them away from the workers paradise.

lazs


yup. nobody ever defected from mother russia. brighton beach is our 'guantanamo bay' facility for russian spies.
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2006, 10:40:29 AM »
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wait a minute... is he saying that the US kidnapped soviet citizens?  We made the work for us?

No wonder they had to have guards on citizens who visited here otherwise we would drag them off and take them away from the workers paradise.
 


The story about a Soviet scientist who disappeared abroad (he worked in a group that invented a "nuclear winter" concept) is well-known. I did some search and understood that I was mistaken, he went to a conference in Spain. He simply disappeared and didn't make any propaganda statements, unlike other defectors. Local police made an investigation and didn't find anything. Maybe it was an accident. Alexandrov had a family that he really loved, and he disappeared only a few weeks before he had to defend a thesis for a Doctor of Science degree. It still remains a mystery :(

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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2006, 10:47:06 AM »
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yup. nobody ever defected from mother russia. brighton beach is our 'guantanamo bay' facility for russian spies.


A final scene edited off "From Russia with love": a ciphered message to KGB, "Infiltration successfull. Tatiana Romanova." :D

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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2006, 11:26:32 AM »
ROFL!...


the line was 'insertion successful'.

I'm gonna start callin you 'Ensign Checkov'.

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