Originally posted by KgB
Moy dorogoy grazhdanin,the difference is that Israel is the starter of all conflicts in MidEast.Conflicts"terrorism" started right after Jews were given land on Arabs teritory,did it not?
Where were you Russian anyway?
Interesting perspective, Komitechik... The Israelis' biggest crime was coming into existence. I could draw parallels, but it would be silly at this point. Our Israeli friends truly had no business being born when their Arab neighbors were so busy improving mankind and making this planet a better place to be alive.
The Israelis (read, the Jews) should have just laid down and died at the hands of the Germans, at the hands of the Arabs, and at the hands of every other soveriegn powers since their inception. As history has taught, conquest justifies the cause of the conquouer. Otherwise, you should take up issue with the white man takening north America, and, for that matter, every other parcel of land in the Western Hemisphere...
You say Israel started everything, KGB. Perhaps you are right, but only if your model of reality does not include Jewish oppression that goes back nearlt 5 millenia. I'm not sure why, but it's a common European trait to ignore this, to pretend the actions of the Jews, in their own defense, are not justified, given the past. I suppose this makes life easier and more guilt-free. The Israelis, the Hebrews, have suffered more than any sect of Islam, any group of arabs, indeed, any group at all. And yet, they continue to fight. And yet, the world at large continues to side with the barberic majority.
I am Russian, KGB. I was born there, I lived there, even after moving to the US, I continue to command the language, I even took a chance and married a Russian Girl. Nevertheless, I will always be a Jew, through and through. Being Russian was difficult. Being a Jew has proven more difficult.
Fighters and survivors to the end, they are the the most stubborn of all enduring ethnicities, and I am proud to be one of them. They have made a vow to the world to stand up to all varieties of bullying, and I stand behind them, every one of them, so long as there is breath in my lungs. An enemy is an enemy, not an ally in disguise, as the West tends to percieve the Arab. The Israeli does not accept this illusion, and so, here we have our current conflict.
The thing is, I seriously doubt that most people who claim that Israel is overstepping its bound is, himself, nuetral. Quite to the contrary, I believe that the pervayors of this opinion are more intelligent than we give then credit. They are smart and knowledgble people, who understand that capitulation on the part of Israel would mark yet another strike against the Jewish populations of the world. Israel fights not just for itself, but for the legtiimacy of all Jews. Without Israel, the jewish peope lose almost all grounding with modern history and politics. Besides Kashrut, there is nothing that would keep this exceedingly talented and intelligent ethnicity from fading into non-existence than the endurance of a Jewish State. Hitler tried it once. He failed. Now, as the tag-line goes, NEVER AGAIN.
NEVER AGAIN... Not in the US, not in Europe, and certainly, not in Israel. Hate all you want, just don't lie to me, or, much less, yourself, about how you feel about the pesky, introverted, un-killable jew.
So long as there is Jewish presence in the middle east, they should be ready to give blood, as well as spill it, prodigiously, until victory is assured. That is the only language that the Arab understands. That is the only language that will be heard. That is the only language that will make a difference until the fight is over.
This, Moy daragoy, is the sad fact, and no UN cease-fire will ever stand in the way of what has become the definition of a fight to the death. For anyone that persists in thinking that Israel is on the offensive, or, better yet, that Israel has no business existing to begin with, I have no words.
