Author Topic: Best Plane? (Read 3830 times)

Ball · « **on:** September 30, 2006, 06:25:36 AM »

Hello,

What is the best plane for a new guy? What would you recommend that i fly?

Thank you.

SuperDud · « **Reply #1 on:** September 30, 2006, 07:13:57 AM »

I'd recommend the spits. They are a good all around plane, kind of a jack of all trades.

Benny Moore · « **Reply #2 on:** September 30, 2006, 07:42:05 AM »

I recommend a P-38 or P-51. They're not as hard to fly as a P-47, but they're harder than a Spitfire or Hurricane and therefore will make you a better pilot eventually. I started out on an Me-109 in a different game, then moved on to P-40 when the developer added it and then P-38. If you want to have instant success, by all means choose Spitfire. Just know that the plane will do a lot of the work for you, and you'll probably never become as good of a pilot as someone who learned on a tougher fighter.

Schatzi · « **Reply #3 on:** September 30, 2006, 08:41:15 AM »

Hello Ball, welcome to Aces High!

As good plane to start in, I usually recommend the Spitfire Mk8 or Mk9 or a F6F.

They have a good overall performance and forgive the odd mistake. They also are both able to be flown in various "styles", from strictly BnZ to stallfight. They are in no way a "crutch" - to fly them well and successfully still will require effort without being too frustrating though. Also, its less about what you fly, its more HOW you fly it.

That doesnt mean you cant start out in other planes - whats more important than the plane choice in itself is the fact that you should STICK to one plane for the beginning. That will enable you to learn its strenghts and weaknesses, to get a feel for the edge of the envelope of performance. At the beginning its already hard enough to remember what your opponents plane is able of, let alone keep the comparison to your own if you switch constantly.

You can find a short rundown on almost any plane in the set at
Sodas Aircraft Page. For more detailed performance charts and comparisons, check out Dok Gonzos Page.

A good page to get started on flying and fighting tactis as well as lots of other info, tips and more is Hammer's Net Aces. Also, if you play online, come by the Training Arena for practical help from Trainers or Vets. If you want to set up a training session with a Trainer, just email us at trainers@hitechcreations.com. Let us know when youre available (time zone!) and what your ingame name is. It also helps if you give some additional info on what youre using as controller and what youd like to work on.

Schatzi · « **Reply #4 on:** September 30, 2006, 08:41:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Benny Moore
you'll probably never become as good of a pilot as someone who learned on a tougher fighter.

I started to learn this game in a Spitfire Mk5

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Oldman731 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 30, 2006, 09:30:48 AM »

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Originally posted by SuperDud
I'd recommend the spits. They are a good all around plane, kind of a jack of all trades.

Agreed.

- oldman

The Fugitive · « **Reply #6 on:** September 30, 2006, 09:49:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Schatzi
I started to learn this game in a Spitfire Mk5 .

I think our Lady friend is calling out "Benny" to prove a point..... where do ya want the flowers sent to Benny?

...back on topic... Schatzi has the best advice. Starting with the "easier" planes will help you get started. The spits, and the F6F are planes, that like Benny says, "do the work for you" will give you a chance to fly and work on learning some manuves, watch and learn what enemies are doing and so on because your spending all your time trying to keep your plane in the air.

Once you have a fell for things and start getting kill more often than one a night

you can move up to the planes that are a bit tougher to handle.

Good luck, and welcome to Aces High...your new addiction !

FBplmmr · « **Reply #7 on:** September 30, 2006, 10:20:32 AM »

Schatzi--They have a good overall performance and forgive the odd mistake

wow !! I fly the F6F alot, and I do make alot of "odd mistakes"... coincidence?... I think not!:D

Schatzi · « **Reply #8 on:** September 30, 2006, 10:32:24 AM »

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Originally posted by FBplmmr

wow !! I fly the F6F alot, and I do make alot of "odd mistakes"... coincidence?... I think not!:D

If you want to *force* yourself to "loose" those mistakes.... may i recommend flying P40B, C202 or SpitMk1?

Benny Moore · « **Reply #9 on:** September 30, 2006, 10:47:00 AM »

Well, I respectfully disagree. I became a "hot rock" a lot sooner doing it the hard way than I would have flying a Spitfire. A good P-47 pilot can always hop in a Spitfire and kick butt in it ("wow, this is easy!"), but a good Spitfire pilot can't just hop in a Thunderbolt and expect to not come to ruin. In short, a P-47 pilot knows just about everything a Spitfire pilot knows, and a lot more besides.

Roman soldiers trained with forty pound shields and six pound swords, so that when they went into battle with twenty pound shields and three pound swords they would consider them very light indeed.

Delirium · « **Reply #10 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:04:08 AM »

I tend to agree with Benny... too many stay in the 'easy mode' aircraft long after any their training wheels have been lost, stifling normal skill progression.

No matter what you decide, stick with one aircraft when you are learning the game, it will take less time if you do that.

Schatzi · « **Reply #11 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:26:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Benny Moore
Roman soldiers trained with forty pound shields and six pound swords, so that when they went into battle with twenty pound shields and three pound swords they would consider them very light indeed.

I fully agree. But if you cant CARRY a 40 pound shield and give up because things are just to hard, youll never fight at all.

Aces High is a *game* and should be a fun passtime. Making things too hard at first might work for some, but not for all. Sure, flying P40B will teach you a lot, since its very probable youll pay for every mistake with your virtual life - but frustration is *hindering* learning processes. Also, its hard to judge for a complete newbie to flight sims (as i was btw) what moves work or dont work in a general sense, if they maybe just dont work in the specific plane/situation youre flying.

Ball · « **Reply #12 on:** September 30, 2006, 12:18:45 PM »

I'm sorry i didn't mean to start a fight.

Schatzi · « **Reply #13 on:** September 30, 2006, 12:29:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Ball
I'm sorry i didn't mean to start a fight.

LoL, dont worry. Were "discussing", not fighting.

This just shows that the question you asked isnt as easily answered as one might think. There are a lot of different approaches on how, why and with what means to go about learning this game.

I hope you found the answer to your question in this thread? If not *we* have to apologize and will try to clarify.

Dichotomy · « **Reply #14 on:** September 30, 2006, 01:12:03 PM »

Ball I'm a 4 monther and I'd say Schatzi is right. I started out in the 38 because I have just loved the plane from the first time I saw it. I stalled a lot and its a big target if you're not pretty well versed in ACM. I dropped back to a 51 but couldn't resist trying to turnfight with it and again got my prettythang handed to me regularly. Fortunately for me I joined a squad and a lot of the more experienced guys helped me out a lot learning those planes but I haven't been flying them lately and have dropped back to the spit for MA and whatever is called for in the special events I fly. If I had to do it over again I'd start with a spit and work my way up.

Regardless either way you go I'm sure that most of the people here wish you the best. Get setup with a trainer in the TA as soon as you can because that will help you a LOT. Oh and if you ever see me in the TA feel free to give me a shout and I'll fly with you. Can't teach you much more than the basics but I'm a really good target

The best thing you can do is ask questions.. LOTS of questions. You'll always get an answer. Oh and lastly.. film your fights and review them. See what you did that set you up right or wrong and learn from it