Best Plane?

[Major Biggles]

Originally posted by Sweet2th
in a video game......o......k then

you didn't seem to do too badly in that department did you???

[Schatzi]

Well Sweet2th, looks like we disagree largely on this subject.

[Sweet2th]

Well Sweet2th, looks like we disagree largely on this subject.

Thats not a bad thing now is it? you have your way and i have mine.

[Condor]

Keep using combat trim for now. You have much more other stuff to worry about for now.... combat trim vs manual isnt going to make a difference for you (yet). Basic maneuvers, speed/Energy management and timing are a lot more important

Schatzi,

Thanks for adding the yet.  It's reassuring.  You've seen me fly so I have confidence in your opinion of what I need to work on.  I know I'm still at the very basic skills level.

Actually I'm not reconsidering the use of combat trim so much as my choice of planes.  The message I'm getting is that the Ki-84 is harder to fly than I realized at first.  I happen belong to the same school of thought as you.  A new pilot should learn to fly in an easy plane and then move up to the more difficult.  That's how real pilots do it and that's how we approach just about everything else in life.

[Schatzi]

Originally posted by Condor
Schatzi,

Thanks for adding the yet.  It's reassuring.  You've seen me fly so I have confidence in your opinion of what I need to work on.  I know I'm still at the very basic skills level.

Actually I'm not reconsidering the use of combat trim so much as my choice of planes.  The message I'm getting is that the Ki-84 is harder to fly than I realized at first.  I happen belong to the same school of thought as you.  A new pilot should learn to fly in an easy plane and then move up to the more difficult.  That's how real pilots do it and that's how we approach just about everything else in life.

Condor, if you have fun with the Ki-84, there is no reason to ditch it whatsoever. Its a good plane. As long as you dont get frustrated with your progress in it, all is as it should be .

[Sweet2th]

The message I'm getting is that the Ki-84 is harder to fly than I realized at first.

When taking 50% to 100% fuel load out in the Ki-84  drain the Center tank first, the majority of the fuel is stored there, draining it first will allow the Ki-84 to be way more nimble.With fuel management and the use of elevator trim the Ki-84 is very hard to climb against, and it's second in climbing to the G-2 or a K-4 109.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Ball
Hello,

What is the best plane for a new guy? What would you recommend that i fly?

Thank you.

I think you should stick with the SE5 since you did such good work in it Albert

[Jazz1]

I'm migrating to harder to fly planes now (P-51D is a favorite and when I'm ready to die now, I'll go to the P-40).  But for my money, the Niccki and LA-7 have given me the most enjoyable learning experience on AH because I could jump right in and be somewhat successful.  The Niccki has some dangerous cannons with lots of ammo, and it climbs well and does well in furballs.  The LA-7, while lacking rounds, has good cannons that shoot through the nose and when you piss off a good enemy flyer, you can usually get on the deck and outrun him/her to save your life.  Then when they're getting low on ammo or fuel and head for the barn, you can try to chase them down to spoil their run.  Yes, I know it's not the best sportsmanship, but it's great fun for the new flyer (and the number of "sportsmen" out there seems to be dwindling).

[Messiah]

Originally posted by Creton
109K-4,really nothing else need to be said.Slow scissors fight a properly flown 109 will win against most any plane in the game and will destroy all american planes without exception.

+1

oh and

[SAS_KID]

LA7 had ALOT of cannon rounds.

[Jazz1]

True, but only if you are light on the trigger! No spray 'n pray...

[TequilaChaser]

Originally posted by Sweet2th
Not always.If a cadet wants to learn to b a good fighter in aces high, one should fly all the fighters on the list in the hanger starting with the A6m-2.Fly each plane for a week or 2 weeks, at the end of that time frame you will know the psitives and negatives of that aircraft.After that plane work your way down the list.By the time you get done flying the Yak-9u you will have a way broader outlook and know how to approach, set up, and fight every fighter you encounter.

All the Acm moves are the same, it's just that each fighter does those moves differently than the others, some better than others.

pretty decent way of going about it, true it would be a broader outlook, not to keen on letting players "assume" after only a week or 2 weeks that they would be positively sure on how to approach, set up, and fight every fighter they encounter.

my personal view: it would take a minimal of 4 to 6 months to TRULY know all the positives and negatives of a single aircraft type, and then even sometimes the characteristics might get changed up.........after this one must find their way thru the countless hours of fights to gain the necessary experience to figure they have seen just about every type of match up possible while flying this plane, from here is when it might be time to step up to a different ride, only to start over again. Hardly anyone does this type of thing anymore, though.  Most pick a favorite ride, and casually jump into other plane types from time to time and read up on what others post about the different plane types and gather their on conclusions, this is until they crack down hard and decide to TRULY learn all they can AT their own possible pace..........

how do you think all them godly type top notch fiter pile-its in the game got so good? I promise you they took longer than 2 weeks in 1 plane type

now a question? how would say a bf109F4 fly a Hi yo-yo BFM differently than say a P-51D?

Sweet2th, I guess we disagree also, but it is a good thing to get different perspective views of training-practice/game play/one's thought process.........

back to my opening line: pretty decent way of going about it, true it would be a broader outlook,


~SALUTE~

[Sweet2th]

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A real BIG shout for  the guy named HO-Say down the street can't forget him.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Benny Moore
that the plane will do a lot of the work for you, and you'll probably never become as good of a pilot as someone who learned on a tougher fighter.

That statement is incorrect.  Just because you can do good in a Spitfire doesn't mean you won't be able to do as good in a plane that is a little more difficult to fly.  ACM is ACM no matter what plane you are in.  It is the pilot not the plane that makes the kills.


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[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Benny Moore
Well, I respectfully disagree.  I became a "hot rock" a lot sooner doing it the hard way than I would have flying a Spitfire.  A good P-47 pilot can always hop in a Spitfire and kick butt in it ("wow, this is easy!"), but a good Spitfire pilot can't just hop in a Thunderbolt and expect to not come to ruin.  In short, a P-47 pilot knows just about everything a Spitfire pilot knows, and a lot more besides.

Again, another incorrect statement.  

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