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« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2006, 08:56:03 AM »
so virgil... you believe that the democrats will spend less on social programs and spend less in general?   that they will be tougher on illegal aliens?

Perhaps not... but.. do you believe there were a lot of conservatives that thought that?

face it.. the country is changing..  right now more people want socialism and big government in their lives... more people feel that they need to take money from others because they will never make it on their own without a government stealing form someone else to give to them.

they live on "entitlements" and live in section 8 houses.  In some cases.. they aren't even citizens.

I think you are right tho that the congress in power allways loses after it gets a chance to show it's stuff...   politicians are scum and it shows.. they allways have the lowest approval rating of any profession (for good reason) and the glow of "my guy got in" wears off very quickly as you watch them destroy the country while taking graft and commiting sex crimes.

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« Reply #91 on: November 08, 2006, 09:27:13 AM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
so virgil... you believe that the democrats will spend less on social programs and spend less in general?   that they will be tougher on illegal aliens?

Perhaps not... but.. do you believe there were a lot of conservatives that thought that?

face it.. the country is changing..  right now more people want socialism and big government in their lives... more people feel that they need to take money from others because they will never make it on their own without a government stealing form someone else to give to them.

they live on "entitlements" and live in section 8 houses.  In some cases.. they aren't even citizens.

I think you are right tho that the congress in power allways loses after it gets a chance to show it's stuff...   politicians are scum and it shows.. they allways have the lowest approval rating of any profession (for good reason) and the glow of "my guy got in" wears off very quickly as you watch them destroy the country while taking graft and commiting sex crimes.

lazs


Of course I do not believe that the Democrats will spend less, nor do I believe that they will prosecute the war better or be any less corrupt.

That does not mean I do not think some conservatives stayed home, nor does that mean I do not think some conservatives voted for moderate Democrats simply because the Republicans were not really conservative or Republican. I'm not nearly so foolish as to believe that a great number of moderate Republican voters did not vote for moderate Democrats out of disgust for some of the crap the Republicans have done lately. And the moderate conservatives were certainly unhappy this time, where as they were not the last two times.

Let's face it, on security we're so far removed from the attacks we've suffered that security is not the strong issue it once was. The five year mark has passed, and we're not dealing with a patient general population.

The Republicans haven't suffered a defeat like this in years. In fact, they've had since 1994 to get their feces cohesive, and they've been going backwards for several years now. They've been skating by for years, and this year the "throw the bums out" sentiment was stronger than anything else, and the Republicans were guilty of generating much of that sentiment.

The moderate Democrats that DID get elected may have just enough power to prevent a severe slide to the left, that remains to be seen. If they do prevent that slide, it will be even more difficult for the Republicans to turn their down hill slide around.

Let's face it, Bush and the rest of the Republicans had better do something, and they had better get their feces cohesive, or last nights big change will look small in comparison to the next two elections. And they'd better not be so stupid as to sink to the level of simple nasty partisan politics. That may have helped the Democrats, but the conservatives that the Republicans must count on will not have any tolerance for it.
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« Reply #92 on: November 08, 2006, 09:41:23 AM »
I think Nilsen made the best prediction earlier, which I'll paraphrase.

"I predict that if the Republicans win it will be a landslide, and if they lose it will be a minor loss, not really a loss at all in fact."

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« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2006, 09:52:06 AM »
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I think Nilsen made the best prediction earlier, which I'll paraphrase.

"I predict that if the Republicans win it will be a landslide, and if they lose it will be a minor loss, not really a loss at all in fact."


Yeah, that was pretty good.

But it IS a loss, and a pretty serious loss. I just expected it to be a little worse. And it still could be. Two close races in the Senate, and the Republicans could lose both.
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« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2006, 10:26:30 AM »
Well, the poll you can look at through Yahoo shows Webb (D) leading in Virigina by ~8,000 votes with 100% reporting, and Tester (D) leading in Montana by ~2,000 votes with 100% reporting.  

I think the Republicans still have a chance though, since both races are fairly close.  I think Republicans tend to be better at picking up votes after the fact, so they will probably carry Montana.  If they manage to pick up Virginia I think some people might get a little suspicious.

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« Reply #95 on: November 08, 2006, 11:17:16 AM »
If the democrats blow this thing and show the american people their true liberal socialist colours, the next president will be a conservative republican, again.  Hmmm.......I wonder if rove played it this way :aok
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« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2006, 11:18:32 AM »
Seems my prediction of the neo-con death cult members gnashing their teeth and wringing their hands has come true....:D

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« Reply #97 on: November 08, 2006, 11:28:13 AM »
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Seems my prediction of the neo-con death cult members gnashing their teeth and wringing their hands has come true....:D


I think you're having flashbacks to 2000 and 2004.

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« Reply #98 on: November 08, 2006, 11:31:28 AM »
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I think you're having flashbacks to 2000 and 2004.

Keep going :D

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« Reply #99 on: November 08, 2006, 11:34:41 AM »
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Keep going :D


I'm not really all that unhappy the democrats have taken the house and possibly the senate. For too long now we've been continually bombarded by how the republicans have screwed everything up, especially in Iraq. I'm ready to sit back and watch the democrats clean it all up in the next two years.


I'm also ready to watch the democrats eliminate the patriot act and all other measures to fight terrorism. When the terrorists come knocking at our door once again it will be interesting to note America's reaction.
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« Reply #100 on: November 08, 2006, 11:40:32 AM »
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I'm not really all that unhappy the democrats have taken the house and possibly the senate. For too long now we've been continually bombarded by how the republicans have screwed everything up, especially in Iraq. I'm ready to sit back and watch the democrats clean it all up in the next two years.


I'm also ready to watch the democrats eliminate the patriot act and all other measures to fight terrorism. When the terrorists come knocking at our door once again it will be interesting to note America's reaction.

You forgot to mention  Securing the borders, cut and run, flip flop and so on. :D

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« Reply #101 on: November 08, 2006, 11:40:48 AM »
democrat plan for Iraq, cut off aid to iraq, send US troops back to germany where they belong, blame it all on bush. :D

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« Reply #102 on: November 08, 2006, 11:46:04 AM »
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You forgot to mention  Securing the borders, cut and run, flip flop and so on. :D


I'm all for securing the borders but neither party wanted that as an issue and I expect to see pretty much the status quo maintained there.

The democrats made Iraq their central issue. I really hope they are successful in bringing our troops home while leaving a stable Iraq. I'm not being sarcastic in this but I do not expect it to happen.

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« Reply #103 on: November 08, 2006, 11:57:52 AM »
I dont see how the dems can do anything about Iraq other than cut off the supply of cash, the war is still up to the prez.

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Ps I am a bit concerned now that all those dems got in that the terrorists are going to be lighting off bombs all over the US. :)
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« Reply #104 on: November 08, 2006, 11:59:30 AM »
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I dont see how the dems can do anything about Iraq other than cut off the supply of cash, the war is still up to the prez.

shamus

Ps I am a bit concerned now that all those dems got in that the terrorists are going to be lighting off bombs all over the US. :)


Perhaps they shouldn't have made it their central platform? They did and now they must deliver.