Originally posted by Ball
I never said it was below rooftop, i said it was a nice picture.
I said that oldies like to exaggerate things, but they DID fly at ultra low level - i am not saying that they were flying at 250mph skidding along the grass.
i have answered each of your statements with a counter argument and facts wherever possible... i have hardly been an arse.
I guess KC135's cant do low level passes either?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2RZGw3Lh3s
1) you were using that as simply another photo to show what appears to be extremely low-level flight. I was pointing out "it's not so low as you might think".
2) you were being an arse and using a coarse level of sarcasm and you know it. You basically accused me of saying everybody in the world is a liar. Scroll up and read your own post, in the context it was in (a response to my post). It's quite clear.
3) You have replied to my posts, but not "answered" them. For a while you engaged in debate, briefly. Then you brought out pilot quotes. I replied on a couple of those just to make a point, then you .. well see my "2" comment right above this.
4) unless you know the back story on that KC135 clip, don't use it as proof. He's going very fast and dips very low, but briefly, before pulling up in a steep climb. Maybe there was a malfunction, or a problem, and they had to pull out of a dive? Maybe it was a miracle they survived? If you don't know you can't say it's proof that modern military planes (large ones) fly low. You can't, really, anyways because it's only doing it for a few seconds before it pulls up.
You know what? All the name calling and insulting, I'm surprised you two haven't got this thread closed. I'm done with it. I don't care who claims it, unless you can prove it nobody's going to believe that those bombers flew 30 feet for any extended period of time. From a top gunner who supposedly shot at hay bales that normally don't get taller than a man, to a pilot that found a piece of grass stuck on a pitot tube, but no 60-foot-long smear of grass stain, neither of which is really possible as-told (in other words you don't know the entire story), nothing here has shown they flew scraping the ground (which would have almost killed them) or 30 feet and lower.
