Jeremy Clarkson-The Good The Bad The Ugly

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Mini D
Largest impractical car vs smallest impractical car would be my guess.

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LMAO

Atom is a toy .

The ram on the other hand is a different story.

Have a few commercial fishermen friends who drive similar trucks.
Tows their boats, hauls their catch.

How about the guy who races for hobby. Lets see him tow his track car to the race with an atom.

 How about just the ability to help a friend move something.  Yea I'll just load this China cabinet in my atom.
 


Get real impractical...pffft.

Bronk


Edit for not getting MiniD's point

[Mini D]

I said it wasn't a practical car.

It's a practical truck. That's just not what 75% of the people buy them use them for. The parking lot at work is full of them and I've never seen one towing a boat. Glad to know you have some friends that actually use them as trucks.

[Bronk]

Ahh ok I get ya now.


Bronk

[Viking]

Originally posted by Mini D
I'm sure they all are viking. Afterall, yours is. Mine must be the typical american BMW, while yours is the typical European version.

Make up your mind. Were all BMW's crap in the 1990's or just yours? Mine is good, and 1990's 3 and 5 series Bimmers are all over town here, so they must be good.



Btw. I missed this post:

 

Originally posted by Mini D
This way, the rest of the world will be convinced the U.S. doesn't know what they're doing dispite the fact that they designed the engine in the Jag and Range Rover and built both that atom and Z4 stateside.

Clarkson can sit back and enjoy the irony while he cruises the country roads in his GT40.

First lets start by dispelling the belief that Jaguar just adapted a Ford designed V8 to create their new power unit. The truth is actually the reverse. Jaguar designed the engine in its entirety, it is manufactured in the UK, and a simplified variant is shipped over to the US where Lincoln install it in their LS model.

Second the Ariel Atom used in the show is not the US built version. Clarkson mentions the power of the Honda engine in the show. The US built version differs from the European Honda-powered in that it has a GM Ecotec engine. (Another example of different US-versions of European cars.)

Third, The Ford GT40 is mostly European parts, and designed and tuned in Europe. As Clarkson also mentions.

I guess it is you who's "talking out of your ass" Mr. Mini D.

[Bronk]

Links to backup jag and gt claims are forthcoming?

Bronk

[Viking]

Originally posted by Bronk
Links to backup jag and gt claims are forthcoming?

Bronk

If I must.

Jaguar AJ-V8: http://www.jagweb.com/aj6eng/v8_performance.html


Ford GT: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2484644722318196723 (time index 2:30)

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Viking
A US vs. Europe thread tanked fast on this bbs?! Outrageous!

Just noticed this.

I'm not on about US VS Europe.

What has me bugged is his inane comparisons.

He has made fun of vetts for being made of plastic, but it's a great thing when Lotus does it.

He omits road test when it doesn't fit into his agenda.

Once again we don't see much of that Lotus interior.

Cmon viking comment on that why don't you.

Or how about comparing one car to another at 2x the price.

Whats the point?
Are the Euro cars that are in that price range uninspired, underpowered  little people movers?


Bronk

[Mini D]

Spoon fed viking. Spoon fed. And completely ignoring sarcasm when you see it. I guess that works for you, though I thought euros were supposed to get sarcasm?

Stick with your thoughts on the jag engine. It's pure coincidence that they went with the V8 after ford bought them. Yeppers. Of course, you can't have europe knowing that a european car needed a little american help, can you?

Hell, you keep it up long enough and you'll actually start believing that the GT40 isn't just made containing parts from Europe, it IS a eurpoean car. You'll even convince yourself that a bunch of Europeans secretly designed it.

As for the Atom, he describes it as coming with a Honda 2000 then says this is a supercharged version of the car without saying it's a honda. You're reading a bit into that one. Basically, they'd have to have one imported for this or find one that's already been imported or just give Jay Leno a call and get the US one. If it makes you feel better, the ecotech is built in Germany.

I'll leave you to your car club chat viking. Rally the guys at your BMW forums together and let them know there's a desenter that needs to have a bunch more rhetoric spewed at him and your credibility was shot down the tubes with the "built in NC" lie.

[Viking]

Originally posted by Bronk
Just noticed this.

I'm not on about US VS Europe.

Then this is not the tread for you apparently.

Originally posted by Bronk
What has me bugged is his inane comparisons.

He has made fun of vetts for being made of plastic, but it's a great thing when Lotus does it.

He omits road test when it doesn't fit into his agenda.

Yes, he's out to make fun at your expense. It was a given from the start. All tests were set up to favor the European cars and were forgone conclusions.

Originally posted by Bronk
Or how about comparing one car to another at 2x the price.

The point was to test the most powerful US sedan to the most powerful Euro one. Well, even the Chrysler was mostly Mercedes though.

Originally posted by Bronk
Are the Euro cars that are in that price range uninspired, underpowered  little people movers?

YES!

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Viking
If I must.

Jaguar AJ-V8: http://www.jagweb.com/aj6eng/v8_performance.html


Ford GT: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2484644722318196723 (time index 2:30)

First link is no proof. Its a fanboi sight . I can send you to fanboi sights that say we never landed on the moon.

As far as what Clarkson says pfft.  He makes more false statements than you can shake a stick at.

Try harder.


Bronk

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Viking





YES!

Ohh so the technically superior Euro car companies CAN'T build a car that can compete for the same price.

Good to know Viking thanx.  



Bronk

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Mini D


Stick with your thoughts on the jag engine. It's pure coincidence that they went with the V8 after ford bought them. Yeppers. Of course, you can't have europe knowing that a european car needed a little american help, can you?

Looks like the Ford Modular motor  introduced in what early 90s?

Bronk

[MiloMorai]

Originally posted by Viking
Then this is not the tread for you apparently.

Is that a Michelin tread or a Dunlop tread or a Goodrich tread or a Goodyear tread?

[Bronk]

Originally posted by MiloMorai
Is that a Michelin tread or a Dunlop tread or a Goodrich tread or a Goodyear tread?

So viking can enjoy.


Bronk

[Viking]

Originally posted by Bronk
Ohh so the technically superior Euro car companies CAN'T build a car that can compete for the same price.

Good to know Viking thanx.  



Bronk

Sure they can. It's just that nobody here will buy it!

Originally posted by Bronk
First link is no proof. Its a fanboi sight . I can send you to fanboi sights that say we never landed on the moon.

I see. You'll probably say the same for every site I dig up, so I shall not bother. Why don't you find an article from Ford that says they designed the thing? After all it was you US guys who made the claim that the Jag engine was US.

Originally posted by Bronk
As far as what Clarkson says pfft.  He makes more false statements than you can shake a stick at.

Then you shouldn't have any problems disproving his claims:

Wheels - German
Brakes - Italy (Brembo I should imagine)
Transmission - British (a Ford subsidiary? Jag maybe Austin M?)
Body - British (Jag? Austin?)
Steering - British (from a Vanquish)
Chassis - British, set up by Lotus

If those are all lies then it must be easy for you to tell me who really made those parts.

Originally posted by Bronk
I'm not on about US VS Europe.
 

Really? You could have fooled me.

Originally posted by Mini D
[Wall of text personal attack]

Getting desperate?