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Offline Toad

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« Reply #105 on: January 26, 2007, 10:16:03 AM »
I guess we seek to understand Obama's distant past to devine where he would lead us in the future.

Seems like a wasted effort to me; if you want to see where he'd lead us, look at his recent political record.

Start with something like this:

On The Issues - Obama

This will give you an idea of what he's said and/or  how he voted.

I suggest you'll get a much better idea of what Obama intends to do about say...Education Issues... than where he went to school 35 years ago.

Flex those fingers... do a little research on your own from there.

Or, I guess you could let CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC or Fox tell you what they think you should do.

As an aside, that site reinforces my belief that if a candidate is wrong on gun control, he's wrong on most of the rest I value.

For example, Obama thinks we should ban semi-automatics. An ignorant position, IMO.

From the site:

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Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:
Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.


Does Obama even have a clue how many semi-automatic shotguns are used in upland and duck hunting every year? And how very, very few are ever used to harm people or are involved in a crime?

It's this sweeping "ban them all" stupidity that makes me firm in my resolve not to give a millimeter on the 2nd. The guy is a putz on this subject.

As I read on, I see that he

Voted NO on confirming Samuel Alito as Supreme Court Justice. (Jan 2006)
Voted NO on confirming John Roberts for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. (Sep 2005)

and Isse his position on Immigration runs contrary to what I think should be done

Voted YES on establishing a Guest Worker program. (May 2006)
Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006)
Voted YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship. (May 2006)


So, really, once again I really didn't need to look further than his ideas on gun control to see if this guy might be of interest to me.

Clearly, he is not.
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« Reply #106 on: January 26, 2007, 11:16:39 AM »
But it is more fun to use media speculation/opinion than facts Toad.  Darn it all!
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« Reply #107 on: January 26, 2007, 11:26:14 AM »
Obama lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has acknowledged attending a Muslim school, but an aide said it was not a madrassa. (Watch video of Obama's school )

Insight attributed the information in its article to an unnamed source, who said it was discovered by "researchers connected to Senator Clinton." A spokesman for Clinton, who is also weighing a White House bid, denied that the campaign was the source of the Obama claim.

He called the story "an obvious right-wing hit job."


http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/index.html

All part of the "vast right-wing conspiracy" no doubt. A Clinton wouldn't lie, right?



Unless under oath of course. ;)
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« Reply #108 on: January 26, 2007, 11:26:30 AM »
I'd like an apology from everyone who dissed Hillary for no reason in this thread.

Go ahead... I'm waiting.

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« Reply #109 on: January 26, 2007, 11:28:11 AM »
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I'd like an apology from everyone who dissed Hillary for no reason in this thread.

Go ahead... I'm waiting.


I for one would never diss Billary for no reason. There are just far too many.

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« Reply #110 on: January 26, 2007, 11:48:02 AM »
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I'd like an apology from everyone who dissed Hillary for no reason in this thread.

Go ahead... I'm waiting.
:rofl  there is an abundance sir, a bumper crop even.

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« Reply #111 on: January 26, 2007, 01:46:35 PM »
I didn't diss her but if I wanted to I sure wouldn't have to look very hard for a good reason to do so.
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« Reply #112 on: January 26, 2007, 01:48:02 PM »
Isn't that the truth.
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« Reply #113 on: January 26, 2007, 02:09:07 PM »
That's 4 apologies... keep 'em coming.

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« Reply #114 on: January 26, 2007, 02:37:38 PM »
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That's 4 apologies... keep 'em coming.


Eat my shorts MT.

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« Reply #115 on: January 26, 2007, 02:43:56 PM »
seriously... is there anything anyone can say that is nice about hillary?

She can't even handle her husbands cheating...  how can she handle the country?

Just an over all unlikeable person.

as for osama bamma?   seriously...  It will be easy to paint him with a nice fresh coat of commie liberal... hell you could just point to his voting record... enough of an excuse that anyone could say they were voting against him cause he was a flaming liberal and not cause he was black.  

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« Reply #116 on: January 26, 2007, 02:45:12 PM »
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That's 4 apologies... keep 'em coming.
ROFL!  Stinky bait.  Sort of like the Billiardly.  Hehe.

Laz, MT is just yanking chains/fishing/trolling.  I should slap a 'Rule #5' on him.  LOL!
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« Reply #117 on: January 26, 2007, 03:05:25 PM »
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« Reply #118 on: January 26, 2007, 03:21:17 PM »
I'm still chewing on the "they got an F rating from the NRA."  If it weren't for real, I'd think it were a joke.

All the Best,

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« Reply #119 on: January 26, 2007, 05:42:20 PM »
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I'd like an apology from everyone who dissed Hillary for no reason in this thread.

Go ahead... I'm waiting.


Heard the editor-in-chief of Insight on an interview yesterday, he says the info came from Hillary operatives doing opposition research--REALLY, WHAT would be the point of Republicans doing a hit-job on Obama at this point? He and Hillary can kick each other around for the next 2 years. Anything that is said won't EVER be directly attributed to Hillary (to be fair, such things are NEVER directly attributed to ANY candidate...always to an 'over-zealous' staffer)
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