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Offline deSelys

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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2007, 08:31:08 AM »
From the link in the first post

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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2007, 08:59:55 AM »
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We were in bosnia... we made a lot of enemies there.   It would seem reasonable that someone from bosnia would want some form of vengence for klintons bombing and interferance in their country.


We were there to protect Bosnian Muslims from Serbs--something these people sadly forget.  I'm pretty sure that is why this family was granted refuge status.

I think we should open our hearts and homes to more Muslim refugees.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2007, 09:48:18 AM »
I know not all Muslims are terrorists, just as not all Christians are abortion clinic bombers. But...when I watch the news about a clinic blowing up I see a handle of supporters for the bomber. When I see the news in the Middle East after someone blows something up, it looks like the gathering at Mecca. Lets just say not all Muslims are terrorists, but many millions seem to support them.

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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2007, 10:02:23 AM »
This obviously means the Patriot act needs to be strengthened..it is not working.

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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2007, 10:20:34 AM »
"look there's a rock! lets see if there are any islamic terrorists under it!!!"

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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2007, 10:30:58 AM »
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does it mean he was a terriost as the report linked calls him.


Are you serious?  Can you possibly be this obtuse?

How do you label someone who goes into a shopping mall and starts shotgunning people anything BUT a terrorist?

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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2007, 10:35:03 AM »
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Are you serious?  Can you possibly be this obtuse?

How do you label someone who goes into a shopping mall and starts shotgunning people anything BUT a terrorist?


Seems like you don't know the difference between terrorism and mass murder. Next you'll tell me that the guy robbing the post office is a terrorist.

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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2007, 10:50:37 AM »
whenever I go to a shopping mall I always have my sidearm with me.
I know how to shoot it and well thanks.  No doubt this punk was a terrorist and he got what he deserved.  Death.
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2007, 11:00:20 AM »
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Seems like you don't know the difference between terrorism and mass murder. Next you'll tell me that the guy robbing the post office is a terrorist.


The guy could have been a born and bred American Christian... he would still have been labeled  a terrorist.  

Wading thru a shopping mall shooting at people is terrorism.  You might not like this fact because you like to argue for arguments sake but i don't much care.  

The guy was a terrorist, regardless of his religion.  Now, it happens that he was islamic and a teenager, maybe he had black hair.  That would make him a teenage,islamic,black haired TERRORIST.  Feel free to argue with these self evident facts, it's what you do.

Edit: Mass murder is a form of terroism.

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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2007, 11:28:05 AM »
Definition of terrorism:

"The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons. "

Political motivation defines a terrorist act in every definition I've seen.  So, if this guy was upset that his woman left him or something, he is NOT officially a terrorist.
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2007, 11:29:06 AM »
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Seems like you don't know the difference between terrorism and mass murder. Next you'll tell me that the guy robbing the post office is a terrorist.


The perp showed no intention of robbery. He came to the mall with the intention of killing as many people as possible.

So your analogy (much like you) is flawed.

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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2007, 11:31:02 AM »
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it's just that our english cousins like to snuggle up with the enemy.  I don't know why that is though.  I wouldn't be in a hurry to label this an act of moslem terrorism just yet.  it could simply be a nutjob with issues who happens to be moslem.  one has to wonder why the media didn't pick up on it.  what if it had been a sunday school teacher from the local mormon church?  would they have called it an act of christian barbarism?  was the moslem terrorist killed in the attack?


I put the article up for discussion.

I have NO idea if it's accurate!!!!

However if it is I would very much like the media to say so.
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2007, 11:32:15 AM »
Thats the problem with having gun nut-jobs mass murdering left and right - how do you tell who are plain nuts and who terrorists? :rolleyes:
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2007, 11:32:42 AM »
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often for ideological or political reasons



often.. not exclusively.  you can argue all you want that he wasn't a terrorist.  If he wasn't a muslim, you and Viking wouldn't be bothering.


Wading thru a shopping mall shooting at people is terrorism.

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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2007, 11:41:16 AM »
To you maybe Steve.  Not to the people who actually come up with the definitions.  Tell you what, I've just spent a few minutes trying to find a definition of terrorism that does not mention "politics" or acts of violence against the "state".

Find me one and I will happily step down.

IPlease don't try and paint me as a terorist supporter, a musilm symapthist or whatever...I'm not.   I just think your definition is wrong.
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