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Offline Makarov9

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« on: June 28, 2007, 01:43:57 PM »
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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2007, 01:47:19 PM »
Good luck Putin.

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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2007, 01:57:12 PM »
just the maniacle flailings of a frustrated 2nd rate country slipping into 3rd rate status.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2007, 02:11:47 PM »
North Pole wasn't Russian you mean?...

Every map in Soviet times had a line of "border of USSR Arctic posessions". It included North Pole.

I thought that we own seabed there because all Arctic islands in that sector belong to Russia.

We have scientific stations and civilian airport on North Pole for decades now (first North Pole Station was working 70 years ago). Russia is the only country that is able to send surface ships to North Pole. So you can argue as much as you want, it's ours de-facto.
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2007, 02:19:55 PM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
North Pole wasn't Russian you mean?...

Every map in Soviet times had a line of "border of USSR Arctic posessions". It included North Pole.

I thought that we own seabed there because all Arctic islands in that sector belong to Russia.

We have scientific stations and civilian airport on North Pole for decades now (first North Pole Station was working 70 years ago). Russia is the only country that is able to send surface ships to North Pole. So you can argue as much as you want, it's ours de-facto.


Just keep telling yourself that, comrade. :rolleyes:
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Offline jhookt

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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2007, 02:24:06 PM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
North Pole wasn't Russian you mean?...

Every map in Soviet times had a line of "border of USSR Arctic posessions". It included North Pole.

I thought that we own seabed there because all Arctic islands in that sector belong to Russia.

We have scientific stations and civilian airport on North Pole for decades now (first North Pole Station was working 70 years ago). Russia is the only country that is able to send surface ships to North Pole. So you can argue as much as you want, it's ours de-facto.



yea well... umm.  we won the cold war  re-facto.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2007, 02:29:35 PM »
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yea well... umm.  we won the cold war  re-facto.



Just keep telling yourself that, mister.
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Offline jhookt

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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2007, 02:32:16 PM »
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Just keep telling yourself that, mister.



i'm already too busy telling myself that the sun is not a deathstar in disguise
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Offline indy007

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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2007, 02:41:20 PM »
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Under current international law, the countries ringing the Arctic - Russia, Canada, the US, Norway, Denmark (Greenland) - are limited to a 200 mile economic zone around their coastlines.


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Sergei Priamikov, of Russia's Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute, said the notion was "strange" and warned other countries could make counter claims.

Canada "could say that the Lomonosov ridge is part of the Canadian shelf, which means Russia should in fact belong to Canada, together with the whole of Eurasia", he observed drily.


Well Boroda.... how aboot a beer ay?
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2007, 02:42:42 PM »
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Under current international law, the countries ringing the Arctic - Russia, Canada, the US, Norway, Denmark (Greenland) - are limited to a 200 mile economic zone around their coastlines.


This could put a damper on Russian ambitions. :D
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2007, 02:46:05 PM »
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This could put a damper on Russian ambitions. :D


Well not quite. That's exactly what they're challenging. They did it 5 years ago, but now they say they have a more compelling claim. It has to do with seabed composition and how it links with the arctic. It's a big can of worms. I can save you the trouble... it's all about money. There's enough oil & diamonds up there to make it worth squabbling over.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2007, 02:52:53 PM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
I thought that we own seabed there because all Arctic islands in that sector belong to Russia.
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Canada "could say that the Lomonosov ridge is part of the Canadian shelf, which means Russia should in fact belong to Canada, together with the whole of Eurasia", he observed drily.

So technically, if Canada owns you, then we own you too, because Canada is our little biatch! :p
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2007, 02:56:46 PM »
so we can blame the melting of the polar ice caps on Russia ???

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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2007, 03:01:31 PM »
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I can save you the trouble... it's all about money.


Of course it is. :)

I think there is a very good chance that we could see military action by the US if not NATO if the Russians try to grab this.
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2007, 03:05:59 PM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
North Pole wasn't Russian you mean?...

Every map in Soviet times had a line of "border of USSR Arctic posessions". It included North Pole.

I thought that we own seabed there because all Arctic islands in that sector belong to Russia.

We have scientific stations and civilian airport on North Pole for decades now (first North Pole Station was working 70 years ago). Russia is the only country that is able to send surface ships to North Pole. So you can argue as much as you want, it's ours de-facto.


Well heck!  

If your MAPS so it's so... well that's good enough for... uhh.... who?
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