Author Topic: I hate russia. (Read 7837 times)

Nilsen · « **Reply #105 on:** July 17, 2007, 11:21:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Let me decide it myself, I have seen both systems and probably have more experience.

Yes, im sure communism was better for you than what you have now. But the system you have now is really bad, so why wont you hope for a working one instead of going back in time?

Boroda · « **Reply #106 on:** July 17, 2007, 11:48:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
Yes, im sure communism was better for you than what you have now. But the system you have now is really bad, so why wont you hope for a working one instead of going back in time?

You don't understand, I don't want to go back in time.

About current situation: I mostly agree with Putin's foreign policy, especially when he finally does something instead of just talking. But domestic affairs are severely ****ed up and most of the ministers deserve to be hanged on lamp-posts. There are some good signs, but unfortunately they will lead to another "transition period".

Commies were not worse, they were different, and there is no way back. And at least current regime is not as outrageously hostile as Yeltsyn's. And what I like about modern Russia is a degree of personal freedom.

Sometimes I think of posting some everyday observations here, but unfortunately it will sound like reports from alien civilization for you.

Hortlund · « **Reply #107 on:** July 17, 2007, 12:00:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda

Sometimes I think of posting some everyday observations here, but unfortunately it will sound like reports from alien civilization for you.

No ****?

Dear diary.
Today everyone in Moscow got a free flatscreen TV by comrade Putin. He has also eradicated all diseases, thanks to the selfless efforts by our scientists. I shall watch Al Jazeera on this new TV, because everyone also got free satellite-tv access. I hope I can catch the Iraqi-special, filled with news on how the freedom loving partisan-heros of Iraq try to defend all Iraqis against the bloodthirsty americans and their indiscriminate killing of civilians using car-bombs and undercover CIA-agents posing as Iraqis.

Unfortunately there was a car accident outside my house on Nevinskij prospect, but it was caused by american CIA agents who are trying to disrupt our peaceful way of life here in the workers paradise. We lynched the CIA-agent, despite his claims he was an ordinary russian. What fool..his breath smelled of alcohol, and everyone knows that we russians never drink ourselves intoxicated.

In history class today our teachers told us about the great war of liberation our troops fought in Prague in 1967, when american CIA agents had infiltrated the city and held everyone hostage. Our troops were greeted by thousands of happy citizens who threw flowers before our liberating heros. Tomorrow we will learn about when our forces of freedom liberated Hungary.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #108 on:** July 17, 2007, 12:15:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
No ****?

Dear diary.
Today everyone in Moscow got a free flatscreen TV by comrade Putin. He has also eradicated all diseases, thanks to the selfless efforts by our scientists. I shall watch Al Jazeera on this new TV, because everyone also got free satellite-tv access. I hope I can catch the Iraqi-special, filled with news on how the freedom loving partisan-heros of Iraq try to defend all Iraqis against the bloodthirsty americans and their indiscriminate killing of civilians using car-bombs and undercover CIA-agents posing as Iraqis.

Unfortunately there was a car accident outside my house on Nevinskij prospect, but it was caused by american CIA agents who are trying to disrupt our peaceful way of life here in the workers paradise. We lynched the CIA-agent, despite his claims he was an ordinary russian. What fool..his breath smelled of alcohol, and everyone knows that we russians never drink ourselves intoxicated.

In history class today our teachers told us about the great war of liberation our troops fought in Prague in 1967, when american CIA agents had infiltrated the city and held everyone hostage. Our troops were greeted by thousands of happy citizens who threw flowers before our liberating heros. Tomorrow we will learn about when our forces of freedom liberated Hungary.

Estel · « **Reply #109 on:** July 17, 2007, 12:33:52 PM »

So, you asked for it:
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4 September 1950 A US Navy F4U-4B Corsair of VF-53, piloted by Ensign Edward V. Laney, shot down a Soviet Naval Aviation Douglas A-20 Box over the Yellow Sea

8 September 1950 Two US Air Force F-80 Shooting Stars strafed a Soviet airfield near Vladivostok.

27 July 1953 An Aeroflot Il-12 Coach was shot down by US Air Force F-86F Sabre pilot Ralph Parr, near Kanggye, North Korea. All 21 people on board were killed.

11 May 1966 South Korea Air Force F-5s intercepted a Soviet An-8 Camp flying near North Korea. This An-8 was likely an environmental monitoring aircraft, taking air samples from the nuclear test conducted by the People's Republic of China two days earlier.
"

Ripsnort · « **Reply #110 on:** July 17, 2007, 12:41:54 PM »

Here is a list of all aircraft shot down during the cold war. I guess the Soviets "won" this ugly portion of the war, nothing to be proud of....
http://www.silent-warriors.com/shootdown_list.html
Regarding Estels incidents, only 3 were "shot down", one of those incidents (F4U pilots) occurred when a Soviet plane got too close to a carrier group, and the other incident (Airfiield) was a mistake due to navigational error and poor judgement. The air force commander was relieved, the pilot were disciplined, and the United States offered to pay damages.

Now, read of all the shot down western aircraft at Silent Warriors.

Toad · « **Reply #111 on:** July 17, 2007, 12:42:48 PM »

Thanks.

I'll start researching those. Are they the only ones you could find?

Hortlund · « **Reply #112 on:** July 17, 2007, 12:53:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort

Now, read of all the shot down western aircraft at Silent Warriors.

For some reason, this one made me laugh out loud.

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1 or 2 December 1946 A US Army Air Force A-26 Invader piloted by George A. Curry of the US Army Air Force 45th Reconnaissance Squadron, Furth, Germany, became lost in heavy, unfavorable weather while on a mission to Amsterdam, Netherlands, and eventually landed near the village of Egyek, northeast of Budapest, Hungary.

I think it was the combination of
Reconnaissance squadron,
flying from Germany to the Netherlands...
ending up in Hungary.

I mean...compass anyone?

Masherbrum · « **Reply #113 on:** July 17, 2007, 12:53:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Estel
So, you asked for it:
"
4 September 1950 A US Navy F4U-4B Corsair of VF-53, piloted by Ensign Edward V. Laney, shot down a Soviet Naval Aviation Douglas A-20 Box over the Yellow Sea

8 September 1950 Two US Air Force F-80 Shooting Stars strafed a Soviet airfield near Vladivostok.

27 July 1953 An Aeroflot Il-12 Coach was shot down by US Air Force F-86F Sabre pilot Ralph Parr, near Kanggye, North Korea. All 21 people on board were killed.

11 May 1966 South Korea Air Force F-5s intercepted a Soviet An-8 Camp flying near North Korea. This An-8 was likely an environmental monitoring aircraft, taking air samples from the nuclear test conducted by the People's Republic of China two days earlier.
"

4 to almost a 100. You have been served, now move along.

Boroda · « **Reply #114 on:** July 17, 2007, 12:57:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
No ****?

Dear diary.
Today everyone in Moscow got a free flatscreen TV by comrade Putin. He has also eradicated all diseases, thanks to the selfless efforts by our scientists. I shall watch Al Jazeera on this new TV, because everyone also got free satellite-tv access. I hope I can catch the Iraqi-special, filled with news on how the freedom loving partisan-heros of Iraq try to defend all Iraqis against the bloodthirsty americans and their indiscriminate killing of civilians using car-bombs and undercover CIA-agents posing as Iraqis.

Unfortunately there was a car accident outside my house on Nevinskij prospect, but it was caused by american CIA agents who are trying to disrupt our peaceful way of life here in the workers paradise. We lynched the CIA-agent, despite his claims he was an ordinary russian. What fool..his breath smelled of alcohol, and everyone knows that we russians never drink ourselves intoxicated.

In history class today our teachers told us about the great war of liberation our troops fought in Prague in 1967, when american CIA agents had infiltrated the city and held everyone hostage. Our troops were greeted by thousands of happy citizens who threw flowers before our liberating heros. Tomorrow we will learn about when our forces of freedom liberated Hungary.

What a m***n, pardon my French... The only good thing is that Hortlund didn't change in that several years I didn't see him posting here.

It's exactly what i meant.

Boroda · « **Reply #115 on:** July 17, 2007, 01:01:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Regarding Estels incidents, only 3 were "shot down", one of those incidents (F4U pilots) occurred when a Soviet plane got too close to a carrier group, and the other incident (Airfiield) was a mistake due to navigational error and poor judgement. The air force commander was relieved, the pilot were disciplined, and the United States offered to pay damages.

Ah, we forgot multiple MiGs shot down like turkeys flying over US CV groups - poor guys were not clear to fire... This list is incomplete.

About Sukhaya Rechka airfield - please give me sources about commander "disciplined", and "compensation offered". Navigational error my ass!

Masherbrum · « **Reply #116 on:** July 17, 2007, 01:06:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Commies told a lot of bull**** too, but now they are gone, and I see them as a part of our national history. They did some bad things but they did some good things too. At least they showed an alternative, different way of life, not better or worse, just different. What I try to do is to show that there is more then one "right" way.

Yer still spewing bull**** and I have YET to see ONE GOOD THING EVOLVE FROM COMMUNISM, except mass killings, and glorified murder.

Remember the Soviet slaughter of Poles at Katyn!!! (It wasn't the Germans)

Boroda · « **Reply #117 on:** July 17, 2007, 01:14:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Yer still spewing bull**** and I have YET to see ONE GOOD THING EVOLVE FROM COMMUNISM, except mass killings, and glorified murder.

Space travel is OK?

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Remember the Soviet slaughter of Poles at Katyn!!! (It wasn't the Germans)

I suppose you have been there?

So predictable, no fun

Masherbrum · « **Reply #118 on:** July 17, 2007, 01:16:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Space travel is OK?

I suppose you have been there?

So predictable, no fun

Space travel? Starting with the forced landing of the B-29 in which you wrongly imprisoned it's occupants for over 10 days while you stole designs. The B-29 was still superior.

Space Travel? Who stepped on the Moon first? Everything else is a distant second. Wait, your shotty "Space Program" still hasn't been there.

Space Travel? Only thing associated that you have shown the world, are the "Annual Russian Ejector Seat Demonstrations".

Katyn? I've read more on the subject than yourself Boroda. You can deny the Gorbachev "admission" from the papers. Plus, there are 100's of other sources of which I have read. Why? I have a Polish last name.

BTW, your signature does still NOT meet the AH BBS guidelines of 5 lines or less.

Boroda · « **Reply #119 on:** July 17, 2007, 01:32:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
BTW, your signature does still NOT meet the AH BBS guidelines of 5 lines or less.

Go report it. In that case I promise to remove the "with respect" line.

Sorry guys, I have to walk my bear now. See you tomorrow!