Author Topic: I hate russia. (Read 7838 times)

Masherbrum · « **Reply #150 on:** July 17, 2007, 06:04:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Estel
Don't forget one important thing. Our "evilness" gave you freedom. And you should pray for Lenin twice a day for it. And you payed for it with childrens concentration camps on our land. Perfect payment for freedom from Russian Empire.

Lenin killed around 15-20 million people during his stay. Definitely something to be proud of.

storch · « **Reply #151 on:** July 17, 2007, 06:11:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Lenin killed around 15-20 million people during his stay. Definitely something to be proud of.

perhaps you mean stalin?

Fishu · « **Reply #152 on:** July 17, 2007, 06:17:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Neubob
Oh, and they tend to honor their contracts too, written or other, and without the need for threats of violence.

You should try not to generalize about others when touting your own righteousness.

We've lived right next to the russians for quite a while and the contracts have often proved to be unreliable. We make sure to take into count before hand the possible setbacks by the russian party when making a contract with them. Bribes in russia are nearly mandatory, because otherwise your projects will be constantly delayed by some sort of bureaucracy, even if all the papers have been checked ten times over. Papers have a habbit of getting mixed up on regular basis, but money will sort it out in no time.

That's our experience in general with russians. I could also generalize germans to be a reliable partner, but someone could say that they too have fraudsters and cry about the generalization.

Neubob · « **Reply #153 on:** July 17, 2007, 06:49:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
We've lived right next to the russians for quite a while and the contracts have often proved to be unreliable. We make sure to take into count before hand the possible setbacks by the russian party when making a contract with them. Bribes in russia are nearly mandatory, because otherwise your projects will be constantly delayed by some sort of bureaucracy, even if all the papers have been checked ten times over. Papers have a habbit of getting mixed up on regular basis, but money will sort it out in no time.

That's our experience in general with russians. I could also generalize germans to be a reliable partner, but someone could say that they too have fraudsters and cry about the generalization.

Actually, my crying over generalization was aimed more at your comment about us being a group of people that never speak of their nation's previous failures and mistakes. And when you say Russians, you tend to include people that don't always live right across the boarder.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #154 on:** July 17, 2007, 06:53:41 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
perhaps you mean stalin?

No, Lenin. Stalin was anywhere from 25-50 million.

storch · « **Reply #155 on:** July 17, 2007, 06:56:44 PM »

no kidding, that many? I didn't know that factoid.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #156 on:** July 17, 2007, 09:29:28 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
no kidding, that many? I didn't know that factoid.

Yeah, 61,911,000 people total between the two, 54,769,000 of them citizens.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/USSR.CHAP.1.HTM

Toad · « **Reply #157 on:** July 17, 2007, 09:47:10 PM »

Nope, never happened. Boroda will be along to correct you shortly.

storch · « **Reply #158 on:** July 17, 2007, 10:05:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Yeah, 61,911,000 people total between the two, 54,769,000 of them citizens.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/USSR.CHAP.1.HTM

amazing, no wonder they don't want an armed peasantry over there in europe.

Fishu · « **Reply #159 on:** July 17, 2007, 11:05:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Neubob
Actually, my crying over generalization was aimed more at your comment about us being a group of people that never speak of their nation's previous failures and mistakes. And when you say Russians, you tend to include people that don't always live right across the boarder.

Okey, let me specify: Russians of Russian nationality without other nationalities mainly living in Russia.

1K3 · « **Reply #160 on:** July 17, 2007, 11:36:12 PM »

I can't believe this thread is still open...

Masherbrum · « **Reply #161 on:** July 18, 2007, 12:27:37 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
amazing, no wonder they don't want an armed peasantry over there in europe.

Even more amazing, Boroda "defends" this, by blindly "accpeting Communism". But, when you look at the poor guy, you see why he would.

Stroch, when folks speak of Soviets and civilian deaths, they go for Stalin. Lenin was right up there with him. The USSR was founded on the premise of "murder". He'll try and deny the numbers, but the Politburo declassified a lot of this stuff, including the Katyn Massacre (which he claims the Germans did).

Angus · « **Reply #162 on:** July 18, 2007, 03:54:41 AM »

Oooohh-hooooh, now we're all the way down to naughty Finns

Get this into your head Boroda, USSR INVADED Finland. Finnish fought back. USSR even tried to bend Finland with terror-bombing in the very first days (Helsinki) with no result. Much later Finland eventually buckles and has to bite the sour apple of loosing a lot of territory.
Then Adolf goes on the march, doing fast and fine, and grudgy Finns lend him half-a-hand. Victory goes to the Allies eventually and Finns loose 1/8th of their country to the USSR. It is today one of the ugliest zones in Russia.

And while Helsinki was being bombed, little Adolf was fuelling his Panzers and aircraft with USSR fuel. Peacefully

Viking · « **Reply #163 on:** July 18, 2007, 04:42:36 AM »

Lol, go easy on them Angus. They can only take so much truth at once.

Angus · « **Reply #164 on:** July 18, 2007, 04:53:42 AM »

Hehe.
And while at it, the Gerries were also molding Sweedish steel and gunning up with Bofors, how's that then?