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Offline Masherbrum

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« Reply #285 on: July 19, 2007, 04:34:22 PM »
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I wonder how long would it take for Skuzzy to delete the thread if some Russian posted something like this:

"I hate usa!I dont know why that disgusting, evil, monstrous nation still exists....why cant it just collapse into anarchy or whatever."

Minute? Few seconds?

Double standards, as usual.

BTW, being Russian I would ashamed of reading such a post not saying to post there.
This is what is typed when "you have further to contribute."

We'll do it next year.
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« Reply #286 on: July 19, 2007, 04:37:20 PM »
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Originally posted by Vad
I wonder how long would it take for Skuzzy to delete the thread if some Russian posted something like this:

"I hate usa!I dont know why that disgusting, evil, monstrous nation still exists....why cant it just collapse into anarchy or whatever."

Minute? Few seconds?

Double standards, as usual.

BTW, being Russian I would ashamed of reading such a post not saying to post there.


Folks have started threads about hating the US or how bad the US is for this or for that. They haven't been shut down either.
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« Reply #287 on: July 19, 2007, 04:38:06 PM »
I wonder how Boroda defends the Nashi organization, which is awfully alot like Hitler Jugend (coincidentally sounds alot like "nazi"). Ironically they claim to be an anti-fascist movement, but they have showed alot of fascist tendencies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/5169610.stm

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We witnessed scores of young people queuing up to take ideological exams that will enable them to become "commissars" of the movement and take part in an annual training camp which is visited by top Kremlin advisers.

Those who succeed will follow courses in politics and administration devised by Nashi's own school of management. And some will gain material advantages unthinkable for most young Russians - in Tver, a new block of flats is being planned to house local commissars.

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It's been accused of recruiting skinheads and soccer hooligans who've attacked members of rival groups. A festival the movement planned to organise this spring was mysteriously cancelled.


http://www.ncsj.org/AuxPages/030205RFERL_Putin.shtml

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According to a press release published on pravda.ru, which quotes Walking Together founder Vasilii Yakemenko, the goal of the new "anti-fascist" movement is to put an end to the "anti-Fatherland union of oligarchs, anti-Semites, Nazis, and liberals." Several Moscow-based newspapers reported the goal of the new group is actually a bit more specific: to eventually replace the party of power, Unified Russia.

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In an interview with "Vremya novostei" on 1 March, Yabloko's Yashin suggested that "one of the tasks of the 'Nashisti' is to intimidate the opposition youth so that they are afraid to attend public meetings. He said that in the last couple of months there have been several clashes between the members of the political opposition and unaffiliated people.[/b]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashi_(Ours)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6624549.stm


Sounds good, doesn't it? Acts very much alike HJ and SA.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YCFD_CXaw5w
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« Reply #288 on: July 19, 2007, 04:48:14 PM »
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Folks have started threads about hating the US or how bad the US is for this or for that. They haven't been shut down either.


About US may be, but I don't remember threads about "disgusting, evil, monstrous American nation which should collapse".

Does  the word "nation" mean "government"?
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« Reply #289 on: July 19, 2007, 05:06:47 PM »
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With inflation it is now $2, please fork over the other $1.98 you tightwad!! :t


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« Reply #290 on: July 19, 2007, 05:26:34 PM »
Of cource I dont hate the russian people. No one has suffered more from the actions of russia than them. Be it by the tzars, the communists, or now the current abomination of government...they have always suffered, been opressed, used, lied to, abused.
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« Reply #291 on: July 19, 2007, 05:28:30 PM »
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Of cource I dont hate the russian people. No one has suffered more from the actions of russia than them. Be it by the tzars, the communists, or now the current abomination of government...they have always suffered, been opressed, used, lied to, abused.
Excellent post!
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« Reply #292 on: July 19, 2007, 05:49:42 PM »
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Of cource I dont hate the russian people. No one has suffered more from the actions of russia than them. Be it by the tzars, the communists, or now the current abomination of government...they have always suffered, been opressed, used, lied to, abused.


Could you explain word "nation" used by you in the first post of this thread.
Thank you in advance.
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« Reply #293 on: July 19, 2007, 06:36:36 PM »
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Does the word "nation" mean "government"?


Technically the answer is no. However, when folks talk about America as a nation they are usually refering to the government and not the nation (or people).

Hope that helps. :)
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« Reply #294 on: July 19, 2007, 07:34:10 PM »
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Technically the answer is no. However, when folks talk about America as a nation they are usually refering to the government and not the nation (or people).

Hope that helps. :)


Very interesting, you puzzled me...
So, Hortlund wish our nation... "government" according to you, collapse to anarchy... That 's a little bit strange. Anarchy is nonexistence of government. It's hard to imagine how government can collapse into anarchy and people wouldn't be affected.

Hortlund doesn't hate Russian, he hates Russian government. It's what you want to say, and what Hortlund confirmed few posts ago. And he just wants Russia collapses into anarchy, without any government, any state institutes, nothing. And all Russians together with the whole world including Sweden will be happy. Ok, not bad so far.

But there is a little problem. We've already been there. From 1990 till 1998. We didn't like that, and looks like the world doesn't like the result. But now we don't care, it's not our problem anymore. Pray it won't become your problem.
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« Reply #295 on: July 19, 2007, 07:58:04 PM »
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Originally posted by Vad
I wonder how long would it take for Skuzzy to delete the thread if some Russian posted something like this:

"I hate usa!I dont know why that disgusting, evil, monstrous nation still exists....why cant it just collapse into anarchy or whatever."

Minute? Few seconds?

Double standards, as usual.

BTW, being Russian I would ashamed of reading such a post not saying to post there.



I'd handicap THAT race at 70:1.

Skuzzy wouldn't do it because this ISN'T Russia....

Do you think this thread would even be possible on a Russian Server?

Someone might accidentally end up eating a radiation sandwich!




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« Reply #296 on: July 19, 2007, 08:10:59 PM »
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Of cource I dont hate the russian people. No one has suffered more from the actions of russia than them. Be it by the tzars, the communists, or now the current abomination of government...they have always suffered, been opressed, used, lied to, abused.




Ya get an AMEN from me!

When a government can control ALL the information it's people get for almost 80 years, you have SOME (not ALL, but at least 2 on THIS board who are TOTALLY brainwashed).

I listened to Radio Moscow for 20 years and even read "Soviet Life" on a regular basis....probably earned me an FBI file, but who cares.

Russian people = Good folks just like us...HATE?  NEVER.  

Russian Government = hasn't changed much since Red October, a different wolf in different sheep's clothing....HATE?  NO.. Feel SORRY for, definitely.

Brainwashed Ruskie Know-It-All's on this board = Priceless brainwashed entertainment.  HATE?  NO.. Feel SORRY for, definitely.




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Offline Vad

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« Reply #297 on: July 19, 2007, 09:24:17 PM »
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Do you think this thread would even be possible on a Russian Server?

Someone might accidentally end up eating a radiation sandwich!

68ROX


You won't believe because you don't read Russian:
http://www.inosmi.ru

Translation in real time of almost all publications from all over the world. Mostly about Russia, of course. Very popular resource in Russia, most of internet news sites have links to this resource. Even major news agencies quote from there.

And, by the way, readers can publish their own translations providing links to original sources. You can even translate some threads from public forums. I think about translating and publish this thread there.
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« Reply #298 on: July 20, 2007, 10:05:37 AM »
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The only thing I found on Dropshot:

http://alsos.wlu.edu/information.aspx?id=2310

On Fleetwood:

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/apj/apj96/fall96/mcfarlnd.html

These were contingency plans, (plans made in advance) in the event that the Soviets attacked Western Europe. They were not plans to initiate the war.

It is wise to have plans in place to defend oneself against perceived threats. The Pentagon is constantly making new contingency plans and revising old ones. Just because this is a truth it does not mean NATO was planning on destroying the USSR.


Well, read what you posted more carefully: Drop Shot had a fixed date when "blue" side had to start hostilities. In fact this date moved several times from, IIRC, 1952, because USSR's pace in rebuilding it's industry and modernization of it's armed forces was too fast for Western estimations...

And it was declassified in 1967, not 1977, a book on it was issued in the US in 1968.

Oops, looks like I had a mistype in one of my books, l made a brief search and found this one: http://www.antiqbook.com/boox/ver/000677.shtml Indeed, must be 1977.

The problem was that it's not a "contingency plan", it was a plan for a first strike, with a set date.

I read only quotes from the above mentioned book, I wish I could order it or read it electronically. It's probably the only reliable source on the subject, because it was printed in the US and widely quoted by some Soviet authors.
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« Reply #299 on: July 20, 2007, 10:27:52 AM »
If the "blue" side was expected to start hostilities, why was the defensive network in Eastern Germany all turning the wrong way????

The whole system of NATO was defensive FYI.

USSR = Paranoia and therefore the need for "extended" borders.

At best....
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