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Offline BaldEagl

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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2008, 04:43:28 PM »
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Not to mention about 7,000 of them were built prior to 1943. Even if you want to say it was outclassed by the start of Barbarossa, it was still numerically very important for another 2 years after that.

Its fun as all heck in IL-2, nasty little furballer.


IIRC it was far more than that... something closer to 16,000 making it something like #2 on the WWII production list.  Someone will correct me I'm sure but there were a lot of them built.
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2008, 04:45:08 PM »
Even better, I went with the first production # I ran across that didn't sound rediculously inflated. I'm sure it was the highest produced Russian fighter, but I'm not sure where it stands on the overall list.
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2008, 05:37:59 PM »
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At least it would be able to run down a Hurricane.  :rofl
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2008, 05:46:51 PM »
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Hey... I WANT the I-16... so here we go with my little I-16 spiel again...

I've advocated the I-16-24 quite a few times too.  Would be a fun little fighter.
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2008, 05:49:13 PM »
But wait Karnak, what about that 4 engined Arado varient? :rolleyes:
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2008, 05:59:13 PM »
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But wait Karnak, what about that 4 engined Arado varient? :rolleyes:


Perk plane = Hangar Queen.  :p


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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2008, 06:08:59 PM »
Bring on all these Beautiful birds!! ....I cant wait to fly 'em!!


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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2008, 06:51:11 PM »
I wonder, if they add enough planes' to the set, if we will see a revision of the perk system? Maybe some of those uber late war rides (P-51D, LA-7, FW-190D-9,etc.) will now come with a perk cost? Might change the usage rates' of the so-called "hangar queens".

Put it this way...There's a lot of people that like to fly the F4u's...But the funny thing is, the best of the lot, the F4U-4, isn't flown much at all...because of that little perk cost. Makes' you wonder, doesn't it...?

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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2008, 06:58:34 PM »
There are no "hanger queens"....just a lack of seasoned pilots. Every plane in the game is formidable in decent hands.

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Re: An introduction to reality for people who object to "Hangar Queens"
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2008, 11:15:10 PM »
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There are essentially no fighters left to add to AH that will compete with the top fighters already in AH.  The best bets are thing like the G.55, Yak-3, P-39 (coming), J2M3 and maybe Ki-44.  P-61 and Me410 would see use as ground attack.  But none of these will threaten to unseat the P-51D, Spitfire Mk XVI, La-7 or N1K2.  Nor would I expect them to unseat secondaries like the Bf109K-4, Typhoon, Spitfire Mk VIII and so on.

What does this mean?  It means that you should stop objecting when so-called "Hangar Queens" are added as nothing is left that can't be defined as such by somebody.


actually, i'll probably di...i mean fly the 39 a bit when she first comes to the arenas....but there is one other thing that CAN be added to help unseat the so-called "uber fighters"  EDUCATION.
the noobs(myself included)need to LEARN how to fight in different planes...the HO-tards, need to learn to maneuver for position in a fight. same for the ace pilots. the alt monkeys.....they need to learn to come down to a reasonable alt, and then learn the above.

 i've sen a lot of the better sticks in the arenas use so-called "old crates" and completely rula the fight full of newer hot rods.....

 seems that if we all learn to fly our "crates" to their strengths then they'll be up to the task of reaonably competing with the hot rods.....

to those of you old far.....eeerrr......veteran sticks........offer to teach when yas can......i've been seeing that a lot lately BTW.

 for everyone............FRIGGIN FORGET ABOUT YOUR DAMMD SCORE!!!!!!
it doesn't mean anything!!! the fun is in the fight.....win OR lose........if you're a noob or hotard.....imagine if you're in a crate, and spend 5 minutes in a low down n dirty slow stalling almost falling out of the sky buzzin, shakin tree trimin fight......and you manage to shoot down your opponent who's in a better ride......i'd be willing to bet your pulse is goin as fast as you usually run when ya miss the ho.....even if ya lose the fight.....

that's just my long-winded opinion..........:noid
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« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2008, 12:27:49 AM »
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actually, i'll probably di...i mean fly the 39 a bit when she first comes to the arenas....but there is one other thing that CAN be added to help unseat the so-called "uber fighters"  EDUCATION.
the noobs(myself included)need to LEARN how to fight in different planes...the HO-tards, need to learn to maneuver for position in a fight. same for the ace pilots. the alt monkeys.....they need to learn to come down to a reasonable alt, and then learn the above.


Isn't that what the Training Arena's for :huh

Funny thing is, whenever I go in there it's usually the experianced pilots that don't fly spits/la's/p51's... seeing that they have something to learn looking for a specific thing to learn...
Take a few weeks ago for example, I go in looking for someone that could teach me a bit better E conservation in the P40 (thanks Ghost) and here's a little furball of p38J's goin on using manuvers I didn't think possible of a p38 (even though I've flown it for the past couple months in the DA...) still not satisfied with their achievements...

Either that or people on their 2 week trial that don't know how to take off...
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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2008, 12:42:29 AM »
I think the planeset needs to be filled.  I don't want to see any more American planes added for awhile.  Vote or NO vote.  

German bombers,  Japanese and Soviet planes.

Maybe a token French plane and possibly just 1 more italian plane fighter or bomber.

German transport ju52.  


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« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2008, 12:42:44 AM »
Not to hijack the thread, Trigger, but I just clicked on your "best thread" link at the bottom of your sig, and that is absolutely, without a doubt, the funniest thread I've ever seen.  Again, sry for offtopic.  Continue.

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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2008, 04:35:16 AM »
I have a thread in the wish list for some Italian birds, G.50 CR.42 MC.200
I also think the I-16 and I-153 are good rides as well, in IL2 thay are hard to bring down cause they are made of wood and can really take a pounding. :aok

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« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2008, 05:08:41 AM »
Hate to say it again, but I will anyway!!!
A26 A26 A26

It definately wouldn't be a hangar queen.
Rather, I'll bet it would create quite a few!!!

I'm an A20 driver, with a bucket load of perks,
and NOTHING to spend them on!!!
All of them collected the hardway too!!!

A26 would be a genuine LW aircraft, that has
the same general mission profile as A20... But
with a decent chance of survival in the LW arena...

Right now, I fly A20 against heavily defended LW targets,
in a prewar design... Seven out of ten times
I get chewed to pieces... No way to escape
the LW hotrod fighters....

When uber fighters kill me, it means nothing...
Just another tubby prewar bomber goes plunk, Right???
But when I blast thru the cap and nail my target, (my primary objective),
and then smoke someones LW uber ride after the pullout. (greenstamps)
I actually accomplished something... No end of satisfaction for me!!!!

OK, There is always someone, who says,
"fly a fighter, you won't die as often".....
While that is probably true, that would make me
just another characterless 200talkin fighterjerk...
Turnin little circles, and having NO effect on the battle...
Have plenty of those in game already...

Give us the A26!!!
What are ya afraid of???
A plane that would actually have an effect on gameplay???

OK, LOL, fire away guys!!!!
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