*** Joe Republican ****

[Shuckins]

I'm WARNING you, you violent, lawless HOME-INVADER you!   Don't come a step closer!  I have a PHONE....AND I KNOW HOW TO USE IT!!

[SD67]

Originally posted by Bodhi
Dos Equis, perhaps you might care to read the facts:
In both England and Australia the violent crime rates have risen dramatically since the introduction of weapons bans.

I agree somewhat with Tronski, although violent crime rates have indeed risen since the gun buy back farce, the rise hasn't been what I would call dramatic.
Still, I can say first hand that the dirt-bags committing these crimes are quite secure in the knowledge that their prey is highly unlikely to be equipped to fight back.

[lazs2]

LOL..  the same hand wringers and drama queens who brought us MTBE are claiming that regulations made my water safe to drink?

There has never been a threat to the water supply as bad as MTBE which was a state solution to an EPA mandate.. a... "do something even if it is wrong" and "but scientists tell us..."

As for guns.. those who think use a gun for a tool to defend themselves and others are "frightened" and paranoid but..  those who strap on a seatbelt every single day of their lives are just smart?   You have a one in four chance of being the victim of a violent crime.. you have about zero chance of being in a wreck where a seatbelt will save your life.  

Who is acting (overreacting) like a little girl?

democrats are all about utopia.. safe and sane and protected.. all you got to do is squash all independent thought and individual rights.

lazs

[lazs2]

Hap.. my own thoughts are similar to yours in that states rights should be the way to go with a small central government that protects only constitutional rights.. not made up rights but those as written.

I can't really think of a government program that would not have been better to not have done..  not unless it is defense.. and defense in the broad sense.. space.

social security.. is no security... USDA is poison food compared to kosher.. safety standards.. many private ones are better.. workplace lawsuits would make people go to safety contractors.. they do now.  almost all safety programs are private.

post office?  maybe but.. not till they had to compete.   I don't know.. I would love to have choice in where I lived.. a state with it's own gun laws and seatbelt laws say... it's own roads.. etc.

lazs

[WWhiskey]

Originally posted by crockett
. If you live your life in so much fear that you think you have to have a gun in arms reach all the time..Well I honestly pitty you.
"

Do you lock your doors at night?
does it make you feel safer?
if so try leaving them unlocked for  a night or two,
or leave them open!
 unhook the phone,put half of the phone in a lock box and the other half in the top of your closet.
now try too sleep , see if you feel as safe as you were before.
Some people feel safer because they have guns around!
 I would have pitty for the ones that need a gun close by to feel safe, but are not allowd too because someone else thought it might be better to take it away!

[Hap]

Originally posted by lazs2
post office?  maybe but.. not till they had to compete.   I don't know.. I would love to have choice in where I lived.. a state with it's own gun laws and seatbelt laws say... it's own roads.. etc.

lazs

Right, I understand.

What about when the states, the people who live in a state, do not do the right thing or will not abandon doing the wrong thing.  I'm thinking about bigotry.

Or do we say, if the folks from XYZ state, want to behave cruelly, it's their state.  And until they want to change, their ways stay put?

[lazs2]

Hap.. the constitution says that all men are created equal..  all are equal under the constitution..  I am not sure what you mean by bigotry.   If it simply means that you hire who you want or say what you want or rent to who you want...then that is not my idea of what it means.

Those who hire only like people will not do well.   let the market decide..  make someone ride in the back of the bus because of color or gender or whatever.. and you have a federal problem.

If you feel that there is no opportunity for your race or creed or whatever in a state then you can move to another and kick their butt in business.

having been a bigot most of my life I can tell you that it is a loser proposition..  it has no benifeit and that becomes apparent.   those states would fall behind.

On the other hand.. those who laughed at PC and afirmative action and special treatment based on race would also fall behind.   the states with the best policy would win out as the best places to live.

lazs

[crockett]

Originally posted by WWhiskey
Do you lock your doors at night?
does it make you feel safer?
if so try leaving them unlocked for  a night or two,
or leave them open!
 unhook the phone,put half of the phone in a lock box and the other half in the top of your closet.
now try too sleep , see if you feel as safe as you were before.
Some people feel safer because they have guns around!
 I would have pitty for the ones that need a gun close by to feel safe, but are not allowd too because someone else thought it might be better to take it away!

Sometimes I leave my door unlocked.. Hell I leave my balcony door open all the time. I'm on the second floor but wouldn't be hard for someone to climb up there if they really felt the need.

I sleep fine at night and don't worry too much about some boogeyman whom is out to get me.

In fact you are more likely to die in a car crash than a home invasion. I wonder how many of the gun ruts whom claim they need a gun to feel safe, whine and moon every time they have to put on a seat belt.

oh and btw I'm all for gun rights, I really have nothing against them. I just get tired of hearing how anytime a gun crime is committed, some moron comes out claiming.. "If they were carrying a gun they could have protected themselves"..

It's like they think just having a gun means you would somehow magically turn into Rambo or Dirty Harry and save the day.

[lazs2]

crock it..  you are of course wrong.. you are far more likely to be the victim of a violent crime (one in four) than ever having a seatbelt save your life.   It is almost unheard of for a seatbelt to save a life..

yet... you buckle up several times a day.. you let it cut into your neck all your life and restrict you movement and freedom and lessen the driving experiance... while all the time.. blindly thinking that you will not be a victim of a violent crime.. not even taking the precaution of locking your doors.

You seem to lack the ability to tulips threat.   I have no problem with risk taking... I do have a problem with falsely justifiying it.    If you don't lock your doors and you know the risks but feel it is something you don't like to do..  that is fine with me..

But don't say that you are smart to wear a seatbelt but not have a way to defend yourself.

Hell...  if you get mugged and injured.. we all have to pay for it..  under socialized medicine.. you are costing us money with your selfishness and anti socialist streak.. you should be fined and jailed for not locking your doors by your way of reason.

lazs

[WWhiskey]

[moot]

Originally posted by crockett
It's like they think just having a gun means you would somehow magically turn into Rambo or Dirty Harry and save the day.

If you had been under any sort of exactly that sort of mugging or street fight or stalking situations enough times, you'd know that's wrong.  Having as much as brass knuckles or something stupid like nunchucks, or a simple knife, will make a lot of those agressors think twice and usualy give it up.

Having a gun has nothing to do with fear.

[lazs2]

nope.. having a gun does not make you invincible.. it just is a tool that can make you invincible when you would have otherwise been a chalk outline.

Just as wearing a seatbelt does not make you a race car driver.  It does not mean you won't die in a car wreck.. you wear it anyway tho don't you?   they ever make a tool for the paramedics to cut the seatbelt off your dead body.

In fact.. I would say that more people wearing seatbelts feel invincible than people who own firearms.   I feel safer with a firearm but know that it is not the total answer.

lazs

[SirLoin]

in Canada,seatbelts are madnatory.i always wear them as i do a helmet when i ride... haven't had a seatbelt come into use though in 24 years of driving..but a helmet and padded leather jacket saved me when my engine seized,locked up and through me down hard at 40mph.

Still,as i get older i resent the govt telling me what i must wear...Perhaps the laws should reflect the drinking age...At 21 you are of age to choose to drink responsibly so should you have the same choice with regard to your own personal safety.

Insurance company's lobbied for the madnatory law cause they can ticket you for 3 points(& raise your rates)

MADD also lobbied for this(MADD's single biggest contributer btw is Allstate Insurance)

It's another lobby induced racket.

[Sixpence]

lol, you reelin' in the big trout now!(and a big mouth (B)ass or two:D)



We're all hypocrites at some point:)

[AWMac]

I'm just glad all of you Liberal assshats don't live where I do.

We can leave the doors unlocked, cars unlocked, kids bikes out front and our pets roam free.

I'd hate to live in your World.