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Offline Chalenge

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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2008, 01:20:13 PM »
Have you ever compared what the federal gov. rakes in on taxes per gallon of gas to what the big bad oil companies do on the same gallon of gas?

Yes I have. Federal government wins 11:1

Oil companies $0.09/gallon
Feds               $1.16/gallon (currently)

The higher the prices go the more the Feds make while the oil companies profit remains the same.
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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2008, 01:36:45 PM »
Is there anyone in this country besides the totally blind leftists who see that everthing that hits her desk is politically motivated? 

Is there not one issue that's in the best interest of the people that she can let up with the rhetoric and serve the WHOLE people...not just the one's who worship Teddy Kennedy as a COD?

It's really in her political best interest. 

Former Speaker of the House Tip O'Niel was respected by both parties.  He was a Boston democrat, but if something was for the best of the whole people--party politics went out the window.  Poor guy is probably rolling in his grave right now.





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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2008, 01:56:41 PM »
What bothers me the most is they wont even allow a vote on it.  WONT ALLOW A VOTE....>WONT ALLOW DEMOCRACY TO HAPPEN!

That bothers me the most that in this representative republic of ours ONE FREAKING MORON has the power to stop the will of the people from being voted on. 

In addition if you think off shore drilling wont effect the price of gasoline in the short term you are a typical dim witted American.  It's short term thinking that got us into this mess.  It WILL drop the price (a little) however it's the long term strategic effect of have it and not need it vrs need it and not have it. 

When it comes to energy we need a sound long term strategic plan.  The current democrat plan is to do nothing and try and save the world from getting warmer.  THAT is Pelosis overal objective.  She likes gass at $4 a gallon becuase people will use less of it.  It's good for her sucidal envrionmental dreams.

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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2008, 02:01:14 PM »
She likes gass at $4 a gallon becuase people will use less of it. 

People will use less of it and guess what, they will want to raise taxes on what is being used in order to keep their coffers at the same level.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2008, 02:02:14 PM »
Like Glenn Beck says: "Time for the pitchforks and torches..."
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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2008, 02:11:42 PM »
What bothers me the most is they wont even allow a vote on it.  WONT ALLOW A VOTE....>WONT ALLOW DEMOCRACY TO HAPPEN!

Pelosi is on the verge of blocking another bill:  In this case bill H.R. 6691 : a bi-partisan law that would lift the ban on pistols in DC:
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/pelosi-opposes-gun-bill-but-may-allow-vote-2008-07-31.html

This woman is the worst example of a career partisan politician.  :mad:



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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2008, 02:19:27 PM »
I believe that's the fine people of D.C. to decide... not congress.

BTW... this absolutly kills me how uppity you fine folks are getting.  A politician being political?  My laws!  Seriously... where was this righteous indignation during the 12 years congress was controlled by the Pubs...they blocked hundreds of bills  :rofl

you guys kill me  :rofl :rofl :rofl

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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2008, 02:25:29 PM »
2 words
TERM LIMITS

Can I get an AMEN! :pray

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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2008, 02:28:55 PM »
What bothers me the most is they wont even allow a vote on it.  WONT ALLOW A VOTE....>WONT ALLOW DEMOCRACY TO HAPPEN!

That bothers me the most that in this representative republic of ours ONE FREAKING MORON has the power to stop the will of the people from being voted on. 

In addition if you think off shore drilling wont effect the price of gasoline in the short term you are a typical dim witted American.  It's short term thinking that got us into this mess.  It WILL drop the price (a little) however it's the long term strategic effect of have it and not need it vrs need it and not have it. 

When it comes to energy we need a sound long term strategic plan.  The current democrat plan is to do nothing and try and save the world from getting warmer.  THAT is Pelosis overal objective.  She likes gass at $4 a gallon becuase people will use less of it.  It's good for her sucidal envrionmental dreams.

If they do let us vote be careful....a no vote means yes a yes vote means no!!


Oh   AMEN!!!!
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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2008, 02:36:04 PM »
the problem, is that they seem to never invest in expanding their capacity, or improving their services with some of those profits. had the oil companies been looking to the future, they'd have seen that they may want to add a refinery or two. same for the power companies.

The "Not in my backyard" barriers are what is keeping any more refineries from being built.  As an example here is one being stalled in SD.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/15/sd.refinery/

In ND, the state government itself is going to build a refinery using eminent domain because the environmentalists continue to block one being built by private oil companies.

http://www.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUSN2364316120080123

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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2008, 03:36:32 PM »
The "Not in my backyard" barriers are what is keeping any more refineries from being built.  As an example here is one being stalled in SD.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/15/sd.refinery/

In ND, the state government itself is going to build a refinery using eminent domain because the environmentalists continue to block one being built by private oil companies.

http://www.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUSN2364316120080123


you got me on that one.......

i keep forgetting that people want to benifit from everything, as long as they don't have to see/hear/smell/deal with it otherwise.
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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2008, 03:57:04 PM »

you got me on that one.......

i keep forgetting that people want to benifit from everything, as long as they don't have to see/hear/smell/deal with it otherwise.


Off shore drilling is 25 - 50 miles and beyond.  It's not amatter of "see/hear/smell/deal with it "

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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2008, 04:21:18 PM »
Off shore drilling is 25 - 50 miles and beyond.  It's not amatter of "see/hear/smell/deal with it "

WELL, THE A-HOLES THAT ARE complaining about it seem to think so. because they're soooo dangerous. it might hurt the little fishes. it might leak oil.


 i know it's far...but thought more on the order of 15 miles.........now i know better. it doesn't matter though.

 the people that don't want them, fail to realize how much it would help the local economy too.

anyway..i say drill where we need to drill. get the resources we need.
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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2008, 04:25:12 PM »
I would like to make a couple of points here.  Newt Gingrich made some statements on FOX NEWS last night that gives the lie to the argument that new drilling would have no effect on the price of oil in the short term.  He stated that the mere fact of Congress voting to allow such drilling would have a stimulating effect on the market, and a drop in the market price would certainly follow.

Another point was that ten years ago, Bill Clinton vetoed a measure that would have allowed offshore drilling, using as his justification, that it would take ten years for it to lower prices.  So, here we sit, ten years later, and the democratic leadership in Congress is making that same argument to justify another ten year delay.

Are these the people we actually want to make such decisions?
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Re: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2008, 04:27:51 PM »
This just in......................

Anyone following this?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0808/House_Dems_turn_out_out_the_light_but_GOP_keep_talking.html?showall

and the comments below the article are interesting.

IMHO think it's a good move on the Reps part but still probably just a dog and pony show.
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