HiTech no likes ponys?

[Vulcan]

A Typhoon or a Tempest????  When was the last time you saw one of those things trying to turn? 

yeah tiffies can't turn... thats right, if you see a tiffie on your ponies 6 alwayyyyyyyys turn....

[dedalos]

yeah tiffies can't turn... thats right, if you see a tiffie on your ponies 6 alwayyyyyyyys turn....

Heh, that is the only time you may see one turn.  Diving in your six, pull the stick for the shot, miss and never see them again until you engage someone else.

Wana tell me how your tiffie is going to find its way to my 6 after re-entry?

[Anaxogoras]

Widewing has posted a handful of threads and tests regarding this. I'd say he's more qualified than most everyone posting in this thread. You guys should use the search tool...

HT has flown a P-51D.  Has Widewing?  I don't know the answer, just asking...

[BnZ]

A Typhoon or a Tempest????  When was the last time you saw one of those things trying to turn? 

DokGonzo's listing for turn radius clearly indicates both airplanes out-turning the AH Mustang.

I have also experimented with it with a squaddie of mine a bit. The P-51, starting on a Tempest's six, using flaps intelligently can just barely follow a Tempest through a series of turns and get in shots. The Tempest, starting from the same position, can follow a P-51 through a series of turns without any undue effort and WITHOUT using flaps.

[BnZ]

Let's say the pony is undermodeled.. just for the sake of this discussion. I think were you increase the turn performance of the pony very much it would become an uber ride. Each plane needs to  have some balance to it.

 I personally believe the pony out turns a jug in the real world but only because of what I've read. Even so, I'd hate to have any plane clearly dominate the rest of the plane set.  A pony that turned sigificantly better than our current modeling would be such a plane, IMHO.



WTG   

I believe you are wrong here Steve. The point is to have aircraft that conform to their real performance as much as possible. If that means the P-51D would perform so well that it would require a light perk price, so be it.

It would never be a super-plane anyway. It would still be out-turned and out-climbed by the Spixteen. The La7 would still be faster in the weeds. The 109s would still out-climb and out-turn it sustained. The Jug would still have 2 more guns, roll better, and absorb punishment better. The F4U-4 would still out-everything the Pony.

[Dream Child]

about everyone I talk to in this game that knows anything about the P-51 will tell you that the pony in this game does not perform as it did in the real world. Is this in fact the case? And if so why would HTC do that?
I'd like to hear from someone on the HTC staff on this.

I'd like to inject some realism here. None of the planes in this game perform like the real thing. In fact, they don't even perform like real planes in some aspects.

[Steve]

I believe you are wrong here Steve. The point is to have aircraft that conform to their real performance as much as possible. If that means the P-51D would perform so well that it would require a light perk price, so be it.

It would never be a super-plane anyway. It would still be out-turned and out-climbed by the Spixteen. The La7 would still be faster in the weeds. The 109s would still out-climb and out-turn it sustained. The Jug would still have 2 more guns, roll better, and absorb punishment better. The F4U-4 would still out-everything the Pony.

the -4 is perked. moot.

[Scotch]

HT has flown a P-51D.  Has Widewing?  I don't know the answer, just asking...

I've driven a car. Does that make me an expert in race cars? Just asking...

Widewing posts credible data. Just look it up...

[dedalos]

I'd like to inject some realism here. None of the planes in this game perform like the real thing. In fact, they don't even perform like real planes in some aspects.

  at list someone gets it

[uptown]

I'd like to inject some realism here. None of the planes in this game perform like the real thing. In fact, they don't even perform like real planes in some aspects.

That's a simple enough answer for me..thanx.   

[Steve]

That's a simple enough answer for me..thanx.   

Except when someone typed:

Any knowing compromise with real world flight data is unjustified.

Dale said he agreed 100%.

[uptown]

yeah, i missed that one steve. it was silly of me to think this is a flight simulator game.

[Mr Blue]

most people dont like P51s cuz of the simple fact that everyone is tired of chasing after it...just like the typh. i dont see anything wrong with that.. using the planes strong point to ur avg. but man do i see a lot of people complainb about haeing to chase down a p51 for 3days.

[Chalenge]

The simple solution is dont chase after them and they will probably come back.

[PFactorDave]

I've driven a car. Does that make me an expert in race cars? Just asking...

Widewing posts credible data. Just look it up...

That's precisely what I have been thinking.  Tooling around in a Pony was certainly a great experience...  But nobody should be making the mistake of equating that to flying it on the ragged edge, milking every bit of performance out of it and flirting with that nasty snap roll that P51s are known for.