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Re: Fix the Collisions.........
« Reply #165 on: December 15, 2008, 07:34:07 PM »
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Re: Fix the Collisions.........
« Reply #166 on: December 16, 2008, 06:52:38 AM »
Awesome Post Kweassa! <S>

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Re: Fix the Collisions.........
« Reply #167 on: December 16, 2008, 03:10:52 PM »
Watching carrier operations can sometimes give a good view of alternate realities. You will see aircraft land where the carrier is not in your reality. i.e. landing in thin air. He sees himself landing on the flight deck.


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Re: Fix the Collisions.........
« Reply #168 on: December 16, 2008, 03:25:11 PM »
I was hoping he'd stick the pauli exclusion principle in there somewhere, too. Perfect opportunity for it.
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Re: Fix the Collisions.........
« Reply #169 on: December 19, 2008, 01:03:54 PM »
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I MAY HAVE  a film. suffered a collision last night. only got white message saying XXX has collided with you. i lost a wing, while i saw a black smoke trail comming from him. i never got the kill, so i assume he landed safely.
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 i'll look at film tonight to see if he was tryin to ho me or not, as i don't recall seeing or hearing hits, or gunfire.
if he was shooting, no use posting...if he was though, i'll stir the hornets nest a bit./ :D :devil
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Re: Fix the Collisions.........
« Reply #170 on: December 19, 2008, 01:28:28 PM »
Some years ago I played a game that had a collision "bubble",if your "bubble" touched the otherguys 'bubble' both went down.The problem with this was that you could "collide" with players that were several hundred yards away,there was noway to tell how close you could get and often you'd move in for a shot and explode for no reason.Well the "no reason" was really "lag" and led to many frustaring evenings trying to fly and not explode.


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« Reply #171 on: December 20, 2008, 01:40:51 PM »
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I MAY HAVE  a film. suffered a collision last night. only got white message saying XXX has collided with you. i lost a wing, while i saw a black smoke trail comming from him. i never got the kill, so i assume he landed safely.
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 i'll look at film tonight to see if he was tryin to ho me or not, as i don't recall seeing or hearing hits, or gunfire.
if he was shooting, no use posting...if he was though, i'll stir the hornets nest a bit./ :D :devil
Just remember the orange system messages, of which "You have collided" is one, do not show up on films (at least they used to not - not sure if this is something they changed).  So you will have to watch the film very closely to see if your plane intersects with the other plane to see if you indeed had a collision on your computer.
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Re: Fix the Collisions.........
« Reply #172 on: December 20, 2008, 02:09:19 PM »
Just remember the orange system messages, of which "You have collided" is one, do not show up on films (at least they used to not - not sure if this is something they changed).  So you will have to watch the film very closely to see if your plane intersects with the other plane to see if you indeed had a collision on your computer.

well, that's why i didn't post right away. i didn't get the orange message.
 i watched the film last night. it appears as if his verticle stab caught my left wing. so my machine did indeed see a collision.  there was zero gunfire. neither one of us fired. i was climbing to the merge, and he was inverted diving on me. i actually thought i was gonna pass under him.
 i'm a bit confused, that i never got the orange message, but not overly concerned now, knowing that this just "proved out" the system.
 i'm still also confused why i never saw a kill show up, as i have in the past, as he definitly hit the water. it's kinda funny too, as although his verticle stab hit my wing, he lost his wing. his wing, though never contacted my aircraft.

 i'm not gonna post the film, also, due to a squaddie lettin loose on squad vox. don't wanna cause any trouble for anyone.

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Re: Fix the Collisions.........
« Reply #173 on: December 20, 2008, 03:14:15 PM »
well, that's why i didn't post right away. i didn't get the orange message.
 i watched the film last night. it appears as if his verticle stab caught my left wing. so my machine did indeed see a collision.  there was zero gunfire. neither one of us fired. i was climbing to the merge, and he was inverted diving on me. i actually thought i was gonna pass under him.
 i'm a bit confused, that i never got the orange message, but not overly concerned now, knowing that this just "proved out" the system.
 i'm still also confused why i never saw a kill show up, as i have in the past, as he definitly hit the water. it's kinda funny too, as although his verticle stab hit my wing, he lost his wing. his wing, though never contacted my aircraft.

 i'm not gonna post the film, also, due to a squaddie lettin loose on squad vox. don't wanna cause any trouble for anyone.

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You can edit out vox and text.  Ohh and if he lost a wing then on his FE his wing hit you. Get it?
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Re: Fix the Collisions.........
« Reply #174 on: December 20, 2008, 03:23:41 PM »
You can edit out vox and text.  Ohh and if he lost a wing then on his FE his wing hit you. Get it?

yea, i think i do......in my "world" his vert stab hit my wing....in his "world" his wing hit me.

how do i edit the vox or text out?
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« Reply #175 on: December 20, 2008, 03:29:57 PM »
Editing  the top right side.

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Re: Fix the Collisions.........
« Reply #176 on: December 20, 2008, 03:50:03 PM »
yea, i think i do......in my "world" his vert stab hit my wing....in his "world" his wing hit me.
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« Reply #177 on: December 20, 2008, 05:22:25 PM »
I was recently explaining the collision model to a few gents who insisted it was faulty.  Their evidence was the fact that if you see your own plane dodging and missing your enemy's bullets, you can still get hit by them and go down.  I tried to explain how hard it would be to have to fire at an enemy at where you think he might actually be in order to hit him on his own Front End.  They would then circle back to, "Why are collisions with planes any different?"  I swore from that day on out, I will never discuss collisions again.
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« Reply #178 on: December 20, 2008, 05:31:08 PM »
I was recently explaining the collision model to a few gents who insisted it was faulty.  Their evidence was the fact that if you see your own plane dodging and missing your enemy's bullets, you can still get hit by them and go down.  I tried to explain how hard it would be to have to fire at an enemy at where you think he might actually be in order to hit him on his own Front End.  They would then circle back to, "Why are collisions with planes any different?"  I swore from that day on out, I will never discuss collisions again.
if i could get the other guy to post his film too, that would be a decent way of showing this. as soon as i edit some offensive vox out, i'll post it here.
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Re: Fix the Collisions.........
« Reply #179 on: December 20, 2008, 09:19:56 PM »
Ohh and if he lost a wing then on his FE his wing hit you. Get it?

Bronk, I have always been with you when it comes to the collision whines but that statement is not always correct.  I think the collision detection system is the best possible compromise.  However the way damage is assigned is not.  This may go more to the games damage model though.
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