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Offline TheBug

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Re: AvA Attitude
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2008, 07:45:19 PM »
If you do keep acting like you're flying in the MA just to land kills then I guarantee you will be driven out.

Sounds like staffer material to me. 

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Re: AvA Attitude
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2008, 07:49:41 PM »
Sounds like staffer material to me. 

I believe we have found the root of the problem.  :aok


Where did I say I would be the one to run him off? :rolleyes:


And what "problem" are you speaking of?
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« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2008, 08:47:24 PM »
 They claim things are different in the AvA due to the small numbers flying there; they fail to mention the small numbers flying there is in direct correlation to the large numbers of abusive players allowed to run wild in the arena.  Hang in there Dawger, a few other squadrons are also waiting for another flush or two of the offending jg toilet.  Maybe then, the arena will no longer be a glorified Dueling Arena and all paying customers can enjoy realistic plane sets in the game. As far as I'm concerned, one down and a couple more to go.....................

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Re: AvA Attitude
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2008, 08:55:46 PM »

Where did I say I would be the one to run him off? :rolleyes:


And what "problem" are you speaking of?

I believe most people would safely assume that when you make a statement that contains the words " I guarantee" it suggests that you will take an active part in making said prediction come true to the best of your abilities, or support such an endeavor.

Joe Namath 'guaranteed' a Super Bowl victory.

If the Jets had lost & a reporter asked him 'what about that guarantee, Joe?" and Namath replied with your "Where did I say I would be the one to win the Super Bowl?"  he would be in the football follies but not the Hall of Fame :)

Unless you are guaranteeing something like 'the sun will go down' or 'jumping in the pool will get you wet', the implication is that you will, as Namath did, do your best to make your guarantee come to fruition.

And the 'problem' would probably be perceived by some to be two fold.
1- The lack of players in an otherwise beautiful arena in a gaming community that regularly host upwards of 400 players a night online, and the lack of steady opponents for AvA players.
2- The predominant attitudes reflected in your beliefs that one could/would get 'run off' and driven away from a community that members should be trying to grow, which brings us back to #1.

Self Fulfilling prophesy.

The great combination of player contributed skins, terrains & scenarios available in the AvA is negated by a community that unfortunately shoots itself in the foot when handling other aspects of the arena.

Thank Goodness for the Snapshots, SnS and other events that still let folks get that historic experience when they need it.

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« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2008, 09:01:54 PM »
 Want to see their real attitude towards the AH Community? Read their forums; it speaks volumes of how they treat others in the Arena.

http://www.ahgreenhearts.org/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=8
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Re: AvA Attitude
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2008, 09:07:18 PM »
Now now, there are several of us in JG-54 who, as far as I know, have done nothing to deserve scorn.  Lets not throw the word "they" around too much.
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Re: AvA Attitude
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2008, 09:12:18 PM »
Oh, and regarding interrupting '1 v 1's....

I see a difference between 2 pilots locked in a neutral fight, and one player totally defensive as the enemy is on him.

While the second example is also '1 v 1', I would expect that anyone flying in a 'historic' arena would come to the aid of the fellow countryman.

Part of the immersion of flying in a historic arena is the experience of helping a teammate in need and saving his bacon.

Personally no matter what arena, event, etc Im flying in, I encourage anyone to help me kill a bandit, especially if Im defensive.  I get to live to fight another day, which should be the prevailing attitude in a historic arena. I never get upset because someone was trying to help me.  Flying like your life means something should be par for the course.  Thats part of what gives an arena a historic feel.  

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Re: AvA Attitude
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2008, 09:28:55 PM »
Now now, there are several of us in JG-54 who, as far as I know, have done nothing to deserve scorn.  Lets not throw the word "they" around too much.


Sorry Republic, but it's impossible to be in a squad and not know what rules are being broken by other members of that squad.  I will however say, I hope you are not an offender and that you are still around to fly with after all the dust settles.
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Re: AvA Attitude
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2008, 09:40:33 PM »
  I will however say, I hope you are not an offender and that you are still around to fly with after all the dust settles.

 :uhoh I'm terrified.  Whats going to happen lutrel?  :noid

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Re: AvA Attitude
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2008, 09:59:34 PM »
Oh Lordy LOL

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« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2008, 10:00:54 PM »
They claim things are different in the AvA due to the small numbers flying there; they fail to mention the small numbers flying there is in direct correlation to the large numbers of abusive players allowed to run wild in the arena.  Hang in there Dawger, a few other squadrons are also waiting for another flush or two of the offending jg toilet.  Maybe then, the arena will no longer be a glorified Dueling Arena and all paying customers can enjoy realistic plane sets in the game. As far as I'm concerned, one down and a couple more to go.....................
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Nice... didn't you pull your squad out of the AvA cause you couldn't hang but now you want to come into the forum to just stir the pot? You should be at the head of the line for the next flush!   :rofl
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« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2008, 10:20:01 PM »
Hmmm, gona need somthing heavy duty for that.  :D

Mabey a Danze one flush?

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Re: AvA Attitude
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2008, 10:56:00 PM »
Lol flying with yall tonight proved how big twits yall are. This thread is a total waste of time.

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Re: AvA Attitude
« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2008, 11:03:51 PM »
Lutrel, you just had to go there did'nt you. Now its the JG squad causing all the problems. Ill have you know that I fight the fights that are handed to me. If I get it from all angles in a furball, thats the approach I use for the remainder. If the fights are clean 1v1 then that is how I approach all the fights.
Im tired of people labeling all of the community due to being involved in a squad. Its a cheap dig that helps nothing in the community. My point is be specific and dont generalize. It will give you more credibility in further discussions.

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Re: AvA Attitude
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2008, 12:00:45 AM »
I was in the AvA (last night I think - it's all a blur these days).  I didn't get to fight any real 1v1.  I think there were maybe 5 or so in the arena.  I went flying around looking for someone to up.  Found one, tangled for a couple of minutes, and then found another coming up to join his bud.  Turned into a 1v2, which lasted another minute or so until I got flamed.

After that, it turned into a little furball, I think maybe 2v3 or 3v4 (I can't remember).  It was fun, and I don't remember anyone saying "you ruined our private 1v1".  I guess the guys in there that night were more concerned with having fun.

I can see where some people might feel it's their private little arena, as there are few passers-by that pop in to see what it's all about.  But I can't see where this would entitle anyone to dictate "policy" to anyone else.  People just take things too seriously sometimes.

I got into the habit very quickly (been in AH2 since March this year) to ask a countryman locked in battle if he needs help. [I wish everyone did, but many succumb to the blood-lust of killing everything they can just to see their name in lights; thus swooping in to steal a kill that I've been working on during a few minutes of good combat.]  If he says no, I either loiter in case he changes his mind, or fly elsewhere looking for a fight.  If he gives me the go-ahead, I'll do my best to kill whoever needs killing.  If that person complains about getting picked in a 1v1, and rants like a lunatic, I just chuckle and ignore it - it's not a hard thing to do.

There is much chest-thumping that I've seen during my short time here, but that's to be expected with any game - real life or computer.  I have found this to be quite humorous at times; but sometimes I just have to say to myself "WTF, it's a game...why do they get so wound up?"
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